How do we raise the birth rates in developed nations without resorting to nigger tier barbarism such as rape and forced pregnancies?https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/were-not-wombs-japan-women-043517502.html
It's not "nigger tier barbarism," it's Jewish law. Stop putting pussy on the pedestal
You are spamming this shit again?You've already gotten answers. Population is more important than your shitty morals. You can correct a immoral population, but you can't have any morality if your population dies down. This is a simple logical conclusion. Make rape legal
>>531280400Shouldn't /pol/ be happy about lower non-white reproduction rates
>>531280400>muh japenis birth ratesJaps literally live rent free in chud head
>>531280575Nah, this is the last time I will post it. I made the realization that it wasn't the smartest move to post this thread in the middle of the night yesterday.
>Competition for jobs and housing>Kids are time intensive and modern work culture leaves parents exhausted, one parent has to make enough for the other to stay at home or pay for sitters if no family is available>Kids need heavy investment, spreading out investment means lower returns>lack of opportunities force social competition
>>531280400State regulated artificial womb facilities.
>>531280400YOU ALL BETTER GET WORKING ON MAKING BABIESWHO WILL RUN THE SLAVE FACTORIES FOR MY BELOVED THE JEWSIM GETTING REALLY ANGRY HERE THAT YOU ALL DONT WANT TO WORK 80 HOURS A WEEK TO FUND THEIR COCAINE AND CHILD RAPE PARTIESTHATS WHY I AM GOING TO LET THEM TRANSHUMAN YOU ALLSINCE YOU ALL DONT WANT TO DO THE BIDDING OF MY CHOSENTHE JEWS- GOD
>>531280400Why would you intend to trap souls into bodies?
>>531280400>patriarchal society that had long pushed her towerds motherhoodDude, Japan had a low birth rate even the year she was born. It was almost totally normalised for Japanese women to have no kids in the early 2000s.These liberal media always try to depict Japan as some ultra-conseravative dictatorship but the way they do that is actually so fucking stupid.
>>531280400Homesteading actNationwide ban on sexbots until we all got homesteads with farmbots that are easy to repair, parts easy to print and replace, operatible offline with no forced updates.Child rearing failed as a past time and status symbol. Its alot of work and it takes a village- people dont have babies to spite each other, though some like to dabb their latest boy/girl-toy .Economic incentives align them, i e inter generational households with localized interdependent supply chains. You cant daycare the children in a cloward piven collapse, nor can you get your promised pension or quality end of life care through the state, just through family
>>531280400>>531280858>>531280956 >Women's jobs exist to pay them not to have children and for no other reason the stats add up to that. keep women from having children by making them have jobs. also keep men from having women by making sure they dont have jobs. it all checks out.
>>531280400Remove the incentives people put in place to force women into the work place.
>>531280400start paying money to people who make children, a lot of money, there would be kids coming out the ass
>>531280400I could tell you, but you'd just laugh.
>>531281708Most bodies don't have souls in them.
>>531280400>How do we raise the birth rates in developed nations without resorting to nigger tier barbarism such as rape and forced pregnancies? By ending capitalism.https://dl.depot.4d2.org/EF6Kxmfq6549.mp4https://dl.4d2.sh/wTMGj0GuPu4D.mp4or You can just import jeets and niggers andENJOY CAPITALISM!
>>531280613any low birth rate is good.The less people , the less competition, the less crimes, less problems, the less people the better.
>>531281038So the rich ruling capitalist Epstein's class can produce kids for them to rape, murder and rape. Like a regular animal factory farm for meat for humans to eat. Great!What a progress...
>>531281308You forgot the wars.They need human meat for their wars.Look how beautiful this is...
>>531284166True. But if they failed to develop one they become vessels for demons.One way to recognize if the body is demonically possessed is the presence of a tattoo in it.https://dl.depot.4d2.org/QUbIjQolcfpC.mp4
>>531280400You literally need to take womens rights away or this never gets better.>ban birth control>ban abortion>ban women from working and politics>revoke womens rightsThats literally all you have to do.
>>531283458Less competition among the workers will lead to higher wages and less profits for the capitalists.You sound like a filthy commie.WTF is wrong with this place?!The sole purpose and meaning of life is to have higher and higher profit.
>>531280613Japanese people aren’t an invasive species infesting other countries and destroying them via nepotism and under the table deals with corporations like indians
>>531280400There’s nothing more sad and miserable and evil than a childless 40 year old woman. Female equivalent of being a hateful little incel retard
>>531280400stunning...and..brave..middlefinger to mother nature and her own instincts to own le chuds. Whats next, jumping down the bridge?
>>531280400When matriarchy occurs its literally over for a society and male hatred and cheering on death of men becomes normalized no children are born and men become slaves and incels see south korea. Jews patched this as the first matriarchal society by constantly moving around places, making it judeo matriarchal, steal from its weakness, then move on to the next host.Either you destroy the judeomatriarchy or its over, if you have kids just know their line ends with them.
>>531280400If you think it through a little you should be able to figure this out from what you said.The most barbaric people breed the most. The most basic lifeforms breed the most.The more simplistic it is, the more offspring. Because they form the bottom of the pyramid, and the most developed creatures form the peak. But the peak is the top, it doesn't rise further from there.Beyond the peak lies nirvana, or heaven if you prefer. But by creating more life you insist on life, and you yourself will be reborn yet again. Smart people begin to choose death over life, which is why Asian birthrates are so low.
>>531280400Ban birth control.
>>531280400Reduce the cost of living and give incentives to having kids. When you have a K-Selective mindset, your first thought isn't to pump out babies, but to rather build a foundation to raise children in.
>>531280400If you want more kids you need to make good jobs and houses available to young couples.That's literally all it takes(I know a young couple in early 20s who were literally given a house by their parents, and immediately produced 2 kids in as many years.)
>>531280400Women are a resource to be managed like any other. Its hilarious to me they think their bullshit jobs are more valuable then their wombs.
>>531280400>destroy the world economy>women starve on the streets>I- I want a family nowSimple as
>>531280400>we're not wombsbut you literally are wombs
>>531280400billions must dielooking at india & chyna
>>531280400I don't believe a single Japanese woman said those words to that author
>>531280400Rework military conscription so childless people are essentially drafted into front lines, you will have children of die for Israel, the choice is yours.
>>531280400Limit or outright remove education for females and reduce career opportunies for woman.Higher education and careers for women directly correlate with lower birthrates. Very easy to verify.
>>531280400Apply a female worker tax to businesses and they’ll drop the lot like the dead weight they really are literally overnight. I’m not kidding, if you are from some fucked communist state or something and are reading this right now do what I am telling you and the birth rate will go up asap.
>>531280400I don’t think forced pregnancies is nigger tier, in fact women should have a special baby draft where if they are selected they must get pregnant by either a man of their choosing or by a government selected sperm donor (at no cost to her of course). if men have to give their body and even lives to the state, so shall women
>>531286639Wrong. Parents never waited to be in the right conditions to have children, this is actually one of the reasons why whites don't have children anymore because they think their home and foundation should be settled before this.This only happened during the end of 20th century that will be seen in the future as a outlier in term of prosperity in human history.
>>531280400>raise birthrateno one wants kids living in a 3rd world shithole with overwhelmed healthcare, education, and law enforcement playing 'catch & release' for violent offenders.the real problem is this all culminates to the highest value men being too rugged to look for comfort from women (besides his mom).
>>531280400Why didn’t she just kill herself instead? What do these people have to live for, honestly?
>>531285637This, it's apples and oranges. Japanese are one of the few non Whites who treats the west with a certain dignity. In this era where our governments are weak they and only a couple other nations decided to not come here en masse and plunder our countries like the other barbarians.It is times like these that show whether someone is civilized or not.
>>531280400Get women out of the workforce and back in the home.
>>531280400Guarantee women a path for a job, after their child stops being a baby. Cover all the birth expenses. Do something to lower the risk of the woman sinking into poverty, after motherhood.
>>531287519>if men have to give their body and even lives to the stateHasn't happened in over half a century. Most likely will never happen again.
>>531280400> without resorting to rape and forced pregnancies
>>531280400Draft them to liberate their sisters in Iran.90% of them will be knocked up by May
>>531280400Ban SSRIs.
>>531280400Picrel. 1970 there was another feminist push. That is the second dip.
>>531280400Japanese don't even read that shit anon. They think of those people are absurd lunatics.
>>531293669Here is wikipedia on what happened in 1970 in the graph.
>>531293669What happened in the 70s though?
>>531293731>>531293744That answers. Thanks.
>>531280400Nah. Birth rates going down will be fine. Humans survived through lots of events that brought population sizes down independent of self selection. There's no need to worry about this non issue. What you're really after is limiting who reproduces. Just be honest about who that is.
>>531293117So true.
>>531280400>>531280513>>531280575>>531280613>>531280748>>531280858>>531280956>>531281038japanese women need their rights taken away to fix birthrates. not allowing them to seek employment is the most important step. this is what kills birthrates for any nation. if they can work, they dont need a husband or a family. no work and no gibs, birthrates would fix themselves in one year.
>>531280400Rape is a social construct just redefine it...
>>531293731Interesting, that's also when arranged marriages started dying out and when Japan's industry boomed. Japan was mostly known for making junk prior to the 80s. I think the rest of the world was also running like 5 or so children per person because back then it was common to use your kids for agricultural labor.
>>531280400Reverse all immigration, publicly hang politicians
>>531294202political leaders know this, they just dont give a shit. mass immigration of shitskins is the goal, not saving homogenous nations.
>>531280400All the breeders depend on the government to protect their tax spawn from Tyrone and Abdul as well as you chuds. Most people are docile breeder wagies who have no interest in any revolution or radical change, never mind risking their life for anything. All they care about is waging so that their tax spawn can survive into adulthood and perpetuate the cycle.
>>531294511True. I think feminism is very relevant though. Because the women are busy working and the standard of living of the couple depends on her salary. If women would have stayed at home, they would have wanted kids, I think.Not like I want old times back. But clearly something went wrong with two people having to work to sustain a reasonable standard of living.
>>531280400Ban 80% of women from working, tax onlyfans by 95%, they better become chuda wives or most will starve. Also molestation for incels with license will be not punishable
>>531293892Birth rates selectively tanking among certain demographics during an age of cultural conquest on the basis of numbers is not fine.
>>531294202Ban foids from working and pay men x2 as much they pay now
Make Beating Women Great Again
>>531290459literally happening right now in ukrainstan
>>531282404There's nothing conservative about Japan. You must be pro babies pro kid and pro family to be conservative. Japan is and has been fake conservative for generations now.
>>531280400Raise?
>>531285233I have 3 kids. I should be able to get a vasectomy.
>>531280400Here's the bad answer but necessary answer.You have to form your own community. That one guy in Arkansas bought up land, opened it to whites. He's getting people wanting to move there left and right, so this is an actual business model. If you can find a state that allows you to get away with it. Our system, is designed to kill off whites. You pay taxes to replace you with migrants , other migrants take all the jobs, you have to find a way to get away from this system as much as you can. This is how the Jews are killing the whites off.
>>531280400delete the internet
We can start by telling men to put in the bare minimum effort to improve themselves.
Propagandize motherhood as a way to increase female status. Propagandize careerism as selfishness like we used to propagandize bachelorism. Let women haze lower status women it's what they're good at. Anyone who says something economic is ignoring the last 80 years of real world data. It's not about money and no regime that's tried to tackle fertility by handing out subsidizes or even punitive taxation has worked post war. Not even deep in the third world.
>>531295826Every measure possible will be taken to prevent this from happening en masse. Yes, it most certainly is an, if not the, answer, but very good luck at making it. Everything you said is correct.
>>531280400You don't.>>531280748>>531280956>>531282763>>531283458You will never have a stable population and women's rights. Not here, not there, not with whites, not with slants, not with niggers, you're never going to survive having women's rights.It's never happened, it's not happening, it never will happen.Every single country that gives women rights in excess of what they had 200 years ago is dead, you just die. If you do that, you just wither and die until anyone who's left takes away the women's rights.
>>531285616Its not. Its to have a family and friends to share the wonderful experience of life with. A simple concept bequeathed to us by God, our job was simple, and we still let jews ruin it.
>>531285616Married white men with more than one child are the most over productive class in human history by an astronomical margin. Literally all you have to do to win economically is maximize the number of men in your society have a house and three kids. The boss makes more money, the worker makes more money, literally everyone, everywhere, at all times, becomes exponentially more wealthy as you maximize the number of white men with a house and three kids. They work, and produce (two different things), at rates phenomenally higher than everyone else, including those same men before they're married. Married white men with multiple children are super-human workers. Everything good in this world was built by them, everything evil in this world was put in place purposefully to diminish them. You're a gay communist so you think this is about greed when it's actually about sadism, evil, and the extermination of whites.
>>531296165Other options require violence, or adopting Jew's own tactics to subvert the system. So you are left with fleeing, or becoming a self-sufficient community. I'm just looking at the scenarios, not saying what is guaranteed to work but atleast we know what doesnt, and that is thinking we can vote our way out because get this... there are STILL Liberal Whites that live in South Africa despite them being hunted, tortured, raped by blacks.
>>531286127>Either you destroy the judeomatriarchy or its over, if you have kids just know their line ends with them.A child born today will not be full grown when this nightmare is over
>>531280400Indians?
>>531280400Stop taxing the everliving shit out of people who work, and incentivize family life with friendly public parks. Force boomers to help out young families to earn their pensions. Deport non-white competition in the housing market -- nobody wants to raise a family in a 3-room-flat downtown.
>>531286639Countries have tried giving higher and higher payouts for having children and it has literally not moved the needle at all. Birthrates will fall as long as women have rights and they never stop falling.
>>531286672>That's literally all it takesCan you give me an example of a country that had a birth rate below 2 per woman, which gave young people better jobs and had it's birthrate rise to 2 or over?
>>531280400Women Wombs-of-menThis is why women need to beaten in submission. There actually is no other option. All men need to legally be able to beat women into obedience. Turns out the instinct to beat women was right all along and we've been suppressing it like cucks. We were retarded. We ARE retarded until we beat women into compliance. Only when women realize their survival depends on men protecting them from both other men and nature they begin behaving reasonably. This is truth, facts and justice
>>531296739Look at wages vs inflation and that's all you really need to know. The system piled up debt, new money, this increased the money supply and made the financial class rich. Now here's the problem, look at the national and global debt.Financial repression will increase, taxes will increase, inflation will increase because that's how our monetary system is designed.It's called a debt trap on a national and global scale. It's a grinding down of standards of living.You have to leave.
>>531296545All accurate. It will take violence it appears, and that would require selfless sacrifice for many that know that they have no future but others may, thanks to their efforts. The tactics that jews employ are anathema and they are uniquely prepared for because it is their playbook in the first place.
>>531296983>Look at wages vs inflation and that's all you really need to know.People literally suffering malnutrition from lack of funds will still have children.There is no scenario where you have a survivable birth rate and women's rights.
>>531280400Actually women are nothing but wombs. All of their existence is geared for procreation. For men only part of their existence is for procreation. It is the rest of their existence that makes them human, and it is the lack of this extra function that makes women subhuman.
>>531280400we dont need more asians
>>531280400Direct cash payments but only to men. Giving it to women seems to make it worse. You'd probably have to repeal so much shit before that could happen that it would be hard to tell what actually worked.Alternatively artificial wombs just bypass the issue entirely but they'd make the world an incredibly racist and sexist place.
>>531280956And yet the poorest class has always gladly had a dozen kids and it wasn't a problem.
>>531297099>People literally suffering malnutrition from lack of funds will still have children.>There is no scenario where you have a survivable birth rate and women's rights.We're reaching a breaking point and instead of resetting the game, debt jubiliee, gold standard. The opposite will happen, CONTROL.Digital ID's, Social credit scores and digital money. I would be far more optimistic if the system would be allowed to reset, but the people in charge won't allow it, instead they are going to pivot to full on control. This is why Im so blackpilled and saying you really do have to leave the system. Or try and not participate within the system with a community that's on the same page. But that will eventually become illegal.
my suggestion caused a fair bit of seething https://www.reddit.com/r/IncelTears/comments/1cvstex/twitter_makes_me_want_to_kms/
>>531280400There's no real incentive to have kids as it used to. Previously you had several kids to take over your establishment, farm and so on.Today people are more busy with careers and go to school for longer period of time. For both sexes. Plus people don't feel like they can deal with a kid financially while also having to afford living expenses as they are now.
>>531295909It's arguably because society expects more out of men these days. It's not immaturity when you put more and more responsibilities on men and expect them to deal with it in record time.
>>531297997People used to live in villages where the welfare and growth of the community were a mutual interest. Atomization destroyed society.
>>531297447Damn, Carlos is a savage.
>>531280400Henlo frends, Daily reminder that spam is part of an organized psychological warfare operation targeting (You). The 4chan Community LLC. is a cyber criminal organization encouraging and protecting the abuse of the 4chan user base. Those threads are mechanically made by the same criminal organization every single day with the full cooperation of the moderation. Here's the person responsible for that organized spam. https://xcancel.com/GrapeApe9k/status/1993736309316133114#mGrapeApe/RapeApe is one of the principal cyber criminal on the 4chan platform. Here he is quoting Yuri Bezmenov.>A person who is demoralized is unable to asses true information He very much know what he's doing. The gender war is the new identity politics for the Gen Z. They want you demoralized. Frustrated. Hating yourself and your own women. They want to talk about women instead of the banks enslaving you or the jews. The exact same peoples, bots, canned reply and reposts. They spam you until you believe it. It's called repetition trauma. They hammer your subconscious with an idea until it's the only thing you can talk about. Wake up. I believe in you.
>>531298230That's way further back than what I'm talking about at least in terms of Sweden. But yes, you are right.
>>531296180>Every single country that gives women rights in excess of what they had 200 years ago is dead, you just die. If you do that, you just wither and die until anyone who's left takes away the women's rights.explain Israel's birth rate
>>531280400I'm NOT a work and war drone. I will collect neetbux and I will refuse to fight for this nation. All while voting for whatever hurts females or non-whites the most.
>>531298282>Hating yourself and your own women.fallacy. in what conceivable way are they "our women" if theyre actively suiciding what you claim is "their own" in-groupits truly like a bad acid trip with wignat simps
>>531280400It has long been obvious that the survival of the human race rests on the deprecation of female biology entirely.
>>531280400every woman who does stupid shit like this looks like a fat potato. they are doing this because they subconsciously know they are not going to catch a fertility ever. you don't bother dealing with these retards outside of pointing and laughing at them for willingly taking their genes out.historical genetics shows most women prior to now were able to reproduce compared to a minority of men. if part of the fix is letting ugly, stupid women who bring down collective wisdom die, then so be it.stop self-posting your gay and fake article.
Women are defective
>>531298688Women are just animals, when not trained and not restrained they just do chaotic awful shit. I don't hate animals, they just can't have rights.
>>5312984381. jews fake their numbers2. Israel has huge numbers of arabs living in it3. jews globally have birth rates in the Shitter and the Orthodox actually just rape their own daughters4. jews racemix more than any other group5. Israel IS IN FACT GOING TO DISAPPEAR IN THIS LIFETIME.I didn't say the death happened instantly I said it was guaranteed. Israel's demographic forecast is not good.
>>531280400>we're not wombs>we're just holes
>>531300413>niggers are just animals, when no trained and not restrained they just do chaotic awful shit.>i dont hate niggerscongrats you are officially diagnosed with the simp mind virus
>>531297367>We're reaching a breaking point and instead of resetting the game, debt jubiliee, gold standard. The opposite will happen, CONTROL.>Digital ID's, Social credit scores and digital money. I would be far more optimistic if the system would be allowed to reset, but the people in charge won't allow it, instead they are going to pivot to full on control. This is why Im so blackpilled and saying you really do have to leave the system. Or try and not participate within the system with a community that's on the same page. But that will eventually become illegal.Reading science fiction has given you a kind of brain damage.In these degenerate systems, cost outstrips productivity at an exponential rate. There will be no "CONTROL" there will be no big brother, it's not a matter of will, nor is it a matter of brave rebellion, these systems that the powers that be fundamentally DO NOT WORK and they destroy themselves every single time. The future is not being trapped in an infinite machine, the future is trying to survive being trapped in a machine that is ripping itself to pieces because the engineers don't believe in certain physical principles and thought they could prove physics wrong by building a non functional engine "bigger" to thumb their nose at reality.
>>531297447I like how it says "Incel tears" but the poster says you make him want to kill himself.
>>531300847You are a nigger poophammad
>>531280400>How do we raise the birth rates in developed nations without resorting to nigger tier barbarism such as rape and forced pregnancies?why bother, we dont need these people to reproduce anyway, they are all worthless eaters, a burden to humanity, and a blot on history
>>531300413>women are just animals so you can never ever ever blame them>but we can never ever ever put them in cages eitherpick a lane bro
>>531280613East Asians are honorary Aryans.
birth rates won't increase while women are allowed to work
>>531300847Women with good genetics are needed to produce a good society. They are needed to give birth to healthy children, and the health and performance of children is increased when they have the care of a mother and a father at an early age.No one needs niggers for anything at all.
>>531301230>but we can never ever ever put them in cages eitherRead through every single post I've made and tell me where at ANY point I suggested NOT putting women in cages.
>>531293731>uman ribuI thought it was human rib first before reading the explanation and wondered why a women's liberation movement would have a name like that
>>531301358Retards will literally let every civilization on the planet combust and billions die rather than admit that though, you can't make them understand. They'll offer you ten million nonfunctional solutions and demand you go through each one, one at a time, testing it under extreme and grueling standards for years, but never consider that 99.9999% of their ancestors were right about women.
>>531301697it is what it is, just wait for the collapse and hope that you make it out alive
>>531293892>Humans survivedJust so long as you're prepared for what that survival actually entails lmao, I hope you don't like cities or electricity.
We ban bitch control and make it illegal for Foids to be in the workforce. Not hard at all also no vote.
>>531280400Why the fuck does the population need to INCREASE?
>>531301830That is true, certainly.
>>531280400I would say love songs on the radio but nobody listens to the radio anymore
>>531280400Redistribute wealth back from the billionaires to working class people so that we can afford to have a family
>>531280400Take away women's rights
>>531301888No group with women's rights is going to stop shrinking until they're all dead or they violently remove the women's rights. There's no moment where a society with women's rights reaches "equilibrium" it just shrinks forever until destroyed.
>>531301888Checked, we don’t need an increase except in the proportion of Whites to non-Whites.
>>531301980Women who acquire more money have less children statistically.
>>531302023So in other words every white needs to have as many children as they possibly can because this is a global breeding war and if you lose you get torn to pieces and eaten.
>>531301980Won’t happen under this system. A new system of distributing value is necessary. Pic historically related
>>531287265No nation deserves to have a military where feminism reigns.
>>531280400Make it so your social security and other state provided retirement benefits hinge on you having children.>Still have to pay into social security, no matter what>Can only access it if you have children>If you have 3 children you get maximum benefits available at the earliest age>If no children then no social security, as children are required to keep funding itThere. No kids? No gibs.
>>531302128That’s one possible strategy
>>531280400>give women rights >they want to kill the civilisation a century laterhahahaha, our ancestors are spinning in their graves
>>531280400Incentives to get married and have kids. Removal of women's rights and privileges. Government regulation of dating apps which have become entirely scams, or government run dating apps. Less working hours, if we work less we fuck more and have more time to raise families. Ban abortion and contraceptives for white women.
>>531302304You literally cannot pay women to have children. They just don't do it. It's been tried.Also your plan revolves around telling women "if you don't have kids you'll be fucked when you're old" which is already objectively true and observable. Women do not plan for winter. When they're not holding a baby they just dance and spin in the grass until daddy tells them to stop.
Silent peer pressure is the best way, aka silent trends.Organize society around Family Values.Do not punish those who don't want to reproduce, do not interfere with them, theu usually do not interfere with others and just want to be left in peace.It would take a culture, not forced but rooted, which means generational work. Reduce juvenile behavior via expectations, for example, structure social settings in a way which don't include a shit ton of vomit rainbow colors past kindergarten. Do not do group usless tall sessions, do Useful skills and activities in schools. I see feelings groups, no, no, no. Feelings are up and down for developing children, no need to hop on a rollercoaster. Instead in social settings you create value, participation, usfulness and the results are Tangable skills and good calm mature behavior.Make generational family homes more accessible, no inheritance tax. Restructure a new build or renos, include units within homes for elderly parents. Make it the norm to retire at home because they live longer with independence, while also being part of the grandchildren's daily life. 1/2
>>531302128Just stop sending aid to Africa and India.
>>531280400kill all jews worldwide.
>>531302366I like how you listed a bunch of shit that wouldn't work and then tucked the "fix everything instantly button" in the middle there neat as you please.
>>531301511>>531301412I assumed you would be letting women out of their cages when they "care for" children.Are you planning on giving them custody privileges from behind bars or something?
Prioritize Safety, simple brutal silent law, criminals get removed quickly and Silently, no chilling in society. Subconscious of humanity feels this. Do not force Families, parents into reactive mode where the law should do it. Their strength must go to daily routine aka family, not exertion or worry.Restructuring work hours, longer weekends, local activity avelable, keep nature accessible. Make lake outgoings cheap, roadtrips cheap and Safe. Reduce non compatible immigration, people don't go out where they have flooded, it's a fact, I see it. Make it trendy for men to want to be men, to be fathers, responsible without making it difficult. Make them feel ood for lifting a small pebble but make it sound like it's a mountain. Make sure it's never a mountain by controlling housing, salary, neighborhood, prices... same for women.Let shame creep in as a result, shame is good, it's good to be ashemed to do immoral shit. Not out of direct fear, but silent self regulation, social silent current.In other words, society works in small whirlwinds within a giant whirlwind, you have to balance them.This means, collective society set guardrails via goverment, basic law that Protects whirlwinds.So, individual space and development, collective, extended family, workplace, community, skills and opportunities... never having to life giant mountains, just pebbles because things are Organized well in law and maintained by small whirlwinds. This only works if the organized governance is working in balance aka for the actual benefit of the citizens, it wont last if it's not.It's not lasting now.And when dominos start to fall, even the big ones who had power fall.You have to respect and balance freedom with responsibility, distribution of weight without making it commie dystopia, permitting simultaneously ambition. 2/2
>>531302853That would require a global war, as the global system is a machine in which you (a white man) push a wheel until you die of exhaustion so that a jew can shovel infinite birdseed into the gaping maw of every brown creature on the planet for no other reason than he loves ugliness and hates you. The entire system exists to put you in this nightmare, you're not going to leave the wheel without violence.Said global war requires as many soldiers as possible.
>>531303007Sorry are you suggesting it needs to be a literal circus animal cage and you cant have the woman with no rights who is your property for life move about your home more broadly than an actual ten by ten steel box would allow? Is that really the sticking point for you, that it's not an actual cage like in a cartoon?
>>531301412why are you talking in utilitarian terms now? your original point was moralistic "i dont hate them im not an incel pick me pick me!!"thats what makes you simps so subversive: theres no value in saying "dont hate the ones oppressing you". Dont hate the jews anon, theyre just doing what benefits their in-group
>>531280400People need space and money to start families. In Japan the work culture is so harsh that people don’t have time to do family stuff. It’s also a small country and everyone lives in overcrowded city centers. People in cities never have kids, the birth rate is always below replacement. Feminism and women entering the workforce has also been disastrous for birth rates. An ideal family needs one full time stay at home parent but the modern culture is for everyone to work and have their own careers. Women entering the workforce has suppressed wages for men, so now it is harder for a man to support a family on a single income.
>>531302814>Do not punish those who don't want to reproduce, do not interfere with them, theu usually do not interfere with others and just want to be left in peace.So, suicide, is your suggestion.Every form of degeneracy expands, infinitely, until arrested by violence, and then abuts that boundary directly forever. Everything bad that is not pressured against, expands, do you understand me you gay pseudointellectual?
>>531280400Abolish retirement pensions. It's not like we'll be able to afford it anyway without generational replacement.Also end stock market and usury. At least in housing market.
>"Japanese women">pictured: some kind of mutt
>>531280400Affordable housing. To do that you would have to deal with landlords. Those are mostly useless people who leech of society and contribute absolutely nothing. And yeah, considerable amount of them are Jewish is that's important to you.Until a young person can actually make enough money to feed and house a family, there would be no birth rates. Except maybe for some... Em... Other kinds of humans, who are so stipud, they multiply anyways and then watch their children die of hunger.Also the only possible conditions for the healthy offspring are outside of big cities. Otherwise it's 50 50 that your kids gonna be queer. It's simply because of epigenetics. Overpopulation (or fake impression of thereof) causes rise in homosexuality.
3 years of govt assistance so one parent can stay home with little up to those making 200k, with huge tax breaks. Public school starts at 3yo ends at 14 the age where he can work w2 legally. 16 age of majority so it can go it's own way. Along the way mandatory emotional quotient training via tech so parents don't input crap, fiscal literacy throughout education.
>>531303561>why are you talking in utilitarian terms now?Because I have from the beginning? Are you brain damaged?>your original point was moralisticNatural Law and moral law are identical. Natural Law is the extension of what you crudely understand as utilitarianism. >i dont hate them im not an incel pick me pick meYou mean the post where I said they were animals and they had to be governed like animals, and could not under any circumstances have rights?>theres no value in saying "dont hate the ones oppressing you"Hatred means I want them exterminated. I just want women treated realistically as what they are, which is something that cannot be given rights and must be strictly governed.>Dont hate the jews anon, theyre just doing what benefits their in-groupThere you go again conflating things which are not analogous. Women are necessary, and when in the correct and reasonable position, beneficial. jews are not necessary, not beneficial, there is no correct position for them to occupy. jews are not a natural part of a good society that is harmful when taken out of it's natural position. You are the one trying to conflate my statements with other statements I never made and do not endorse as some kind of homosexual game you're playing.
>>531303665i realize youre a shill bot but youre just restating the same thing:>women cause urbanization because they can seek non-labor employment there in order to have financial independence and not marry a sub-chad
Japan after ww2>yes sir we wirr take a gorirrion jeets and pakis sarr
>>531303877Women have fewer children when you give them more money, this is a statistical fact. Try again. Keep suggesting everything but the option that fixes everything instantly, which all your ancestors understood for half a million years.
>>531304130>You mean the post where I said they were animalsyes thats about as peak simping as it gets. Women are not animals: they have sentience and can manipulate (pretending theyre willing to reproduce IF GRANTED X Y and Z gibs) or just flat-out betray (like the OP, one of many women explicitly bragging about suiciding their entire race).>Hatred means I want them exterminated.no it doesnt. you only made that entailment because youre likely a christcuck since they also use that cope: "Jews HATE christians" (false, jews MOCK christians, you cant logically want to exterminate your own paypigs).another simp FAIL. how's it feel to know for a fact that youre not a Great Man like all the philosophers and statesmen before you who openly touted their healthy contempt or "hatred" of women? I do hate women for what they are. That i like their pussy and their perfumed smell and their giggle is irrelevant, pure bio instinct i can ignore when it comes to moral evaluation or policy-making.you are a subversive traitor and will face the wall before any jew or nig
>>531303503So there aren't any cages? Just women living freely in my house?What happened to the animal talk?
>>531280400Pay native populations to breed like was done in Lybia.
>>531304654Do you think people keep their dogs caged twenty four hours a day.
>>531280400>without resorting to nigger tier barbarism such as rape and forced pregnancies?This is exactly why developed nations will never solve any of their social or demographic problems, everyone would rather placate women's delusions than save civilization.
>>531304631>yes thats about as peak simping as it getsTaking away their rights and saying they have to obey a man at all times is simping? Right, so you're just an insane gay retard.>you are a subversive traitor and will face the wall before any jew or nigLMAO faggots who talk like you don't win, ever. Nothing you say matters, because you have no significant capacity for violence nor the means to acquire it from others.
>>531304229No, if you give her money, he would not depend on your, so it's not gonna work.You're missing the point, but ok.The way women keep you hooked is by faking ovulation 24/7. When you have kids, it also helps, since men have parental "instincts" too. But mostly it's just a woman being attractive and nice to you.May sound simple, but it's not. Humans are unique and different from literally all other animals in this one single aspect. Women fake ovulation to keep the male around for decades.In a similar way women are hooked to a male as they see him as a source of income.They see you as a walking ATM, hunting and killing machine that is scary as fuck, can kill them in a single hit, but they see you as very useful and capable of providing her with free stuff.The moment you give her 100% of your income, or the moment she finds a job that pays better than yours, she will no longer see you that way. Instead of useful, you are just a scary monster and killing machine.
>>531305024no, saying "we must enslave them BUT DONT HATE THEM THO PLZ!!!" is what's subversive since it PRECLUDES that physical action by giving them pityThere is zero daylight functionally between you and the most ardent shit-lib "environmental factors" race-cuck. You offer empathy and endless excuses which wont yield action the way raw hatred inevitably does.which makes your "capacity for violence" comment doubly ironic
>>531305028>No, if you give her money, he would not depend on your, so it's not gonna work.Did you misread what I said I said Give women MORE money makes LESS babies.thus, any system that tries to PAY women to have BABIES is doomed to failure.There's no trick you can use to get women to willingly do what they should because their brains evolved to be governed by men. You cant get them to willingly do what they evolved to be COMMANDED to do. No command, no babies. You take women out of that environment, and their negative behavior expands forever.
>>531305344> thus, any system that tries to PAY women to have BABIES is doomed to failureIt's not doomed, it's retarded. You said "pay women to have babies", that's the support programs that many governments do. It causes lots of single mothers and then lots of crime, sure.> You cant get them to willingly do What? They are crazy about having children. It's the opposite of what you say.You've been exposed to way too much feminists. And those are usually traumatized women, who are scared of man beyond imagination.But I guess you're not wrong if you are referring to them. The only way to fix them is to give them some d. But if you treat them bad, it will only get worse.
>>531305293>no, saying "we must enslave them BUT DONT HATE THEM THO PLZ!!!" is what's subversive since it PRECLUDES that physical action by giving them pityIn no way does what I actually said do that just because in your homo imagination it must be so. I do not care that in your dreams I said this or that and the results must be this or that, I thankfully don't live in your rotted mind.>You offer empathy and endless excuses which wont yield action the way raw hatred inevitably does.It's very simple, what you hate, you destroy. Hatred is the desire to destroy a thing. Hatred is good, when what you want to destroy should be destroyed. Women cannot be allowed to have rights or the society that permits them dies. I want to destroy women's rights. I do not want to destroy a woman pregnant with my child. This is not an emotional premise it is a fact. It is not motivated by how I "Feel" about women, it is a fact. Women are either compelled towards the correct position with necessary force, or the society dies. >which makes your "capacity for violence" comment doubly ironicFunctionally no one who talks like this has ever won a fight much less a war.
>>531305344>You cant get them to willingly do what they evolved to be COMMANDED to doholy fucking gymnastics XDDDDD what's next "pathogens EVOLVED to SUCCUMB to antibiotics that kill them, dont hate pathogens!! theyre a beautiful part of the rich tapestry of Life!! its just YOU failing to do YOUR part!!"just kys simp, youre an embarrassment worse than the willing cuckolds in the corner chair
>>531305707>You said "pay women to have babies"I said DONT pay women to have babiesDON'T DO THATI said DO NOT PAY WOMEN.I said it DOES NOT WORK
>>531280400Universal housing
>>531305810>Women are either compelled towards the correct position with necessary force, or the society dies."women instinct absent intervention is literally to destroy me and everything my ancestors worked for (ie they hate me under my own defintion), but no i dont hate them cuz thats what heckin incels say (and im def not that i promise plz dont sneer at me my queenz)"AAAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>531304793My pets are chipped and collared with at least one cage each. That's for retarded animals with no though.Look, if you want to back down from your original reply, I get it. Putting women in cages would be super annoying, even if you really believed they were evil animals.
>>531305892>holy fucking gymnastics XDDDDD what's next "pathogens EVOLVED to SUCCUMB to antibiotics that kill them, dont hate pathogens!! theyre a beautiful part of the rich tapestry of Life!! its just YOU failing to do YOUR part!!"Lmao every post you just conflate things that aren't actually analogous, it only shows how much of a fucking idiot you are.Here I'll help you since you can't understand what you'd feel like if you didn't eat breakfast:Women evolved to exist in a certain environment and succeed biologically under certain conditionsThe Pathogen evolved to exist in a certain environment and succeed biologically under certain conditions.If you take the Pathogen out of the conditions it requires for success in it's biological functions, it succeeds less. A bug, a lizard, a microbe, there is an environment, a set of factors, that allows them to best perform their functions, and taking away these factors generally leads to worse functioning.A woman evolved to be governed strictly by her father, and then her husband. Her brain chemistry is different than a man's, her brain is physically not the same as a man's, because it evolved to function under different conditions. Her brain evolved to receive governance from her father and her husband, not to correctly make decisions as some kind of modern independent agent. >just kys simp, youre an embarrassment worse than the willing cuckolds in the corner chairYour insults just sound gay, fag.
>>531305900Lmao, you are missing the point again. Also, why are you mad?I do agree that just giving them money solves nothing. Originally I said that it's about men being unable to afford a house and family upkeep that causes decline in birth rates.>>531306059That bullshit does not work. It causes faggotry, like I mentioned before ITT: >>531303877You should really visit a commie block some day and figure if you wanna live in that prison cell disguised as housing.
>>531306073>women instinct absent intervention is--An unnatural state of being.
>>531280400A woman that doesnt bare children for the continuation of her society is useless and should be taxed into oblivion for her failure.>but wut about duh men doe?We already get over taxed to support cunts, switch this and apply the "barren foid" tax and this stupidity will self correct.
>>531306438>My pets are chipped and collared with at least one cage each.So that's a no? No, you don't keep them locked in cages 24/7?
>>531280400give women equalityas in no more gender quotas, no more lazy girl adult daycare jobs, forcing them to compete on an equal playing field with men. they'll struggle to find work because there aren't many legitimate productive jobs where they can outcompete men. end blackrocks dei garbage, make it illegal, and corpos won't be forced to hire women.then lower housing costs to where one working man can afford to support a family again. nature will take its course and the women who don't want to sleep on the streets will end up married and pregnant in some mans house.also ban tinder and online dating, their entire civilization wrecking business model depends on perpetuating hookup culture and people never settling down. hypergamy, chad cock carousel, and desperate non-chads paying premium subscriptions for the 1 in a hundred chance of finding a woman is their entire business.
>>531280400how is that a problem?just rape lol
>>531306492>Lmao, you are missing the point again. Also, why are you mad?Because you can't read English.
>>531280400>How do we raise the birth rates in developed nations WELL YOU SEE>without resorting to nigger tier barbarism such as rape and forced pregnancies?...nevermind, enjoy your 1.1 TFR.
>>531280400You dont. You give women rights, your birthrate drops. Simple as. Not sure why you tards cant understand that women dont like being pregnant and giving birth. Literally described as a curse from God to them in the bible. Want your birthrate to rise? Repeal the 19th, end no-fault divorce. Till then, fuck off.
>>531280400Why are retards so obsessed with raising birth rates? Why do you mongoloids want even MORE people taking your resources and to compete with?
>>531280400>Women can't reliably survive and have confort in marriage without working due to the economy>Men can't reliably have the bare minimal from women due to feminismThere's simply no coming back. It's no coincidence that the only people with high birth rates are the ones that receive a lot of gibs from government.
>>531306583also end anti-human zoning bylaws. return to traditional zoning where the free market is once again allowed to service local communities with local third places (a place outside work and home where people exist). we had that for millenia, its where you go to a cafe or pub and actually talk to the people there because you recognize them as neighbours. its how people met for thousands of years. nobody talks to each other when everyone had to drive to a commercially zoned district with a giant parking lot and where you dont recognize anyone there, its unnatural.>end dei, force women to compete on an equal playing field with men>lower housing costs so one working man can support a family>ban online dating and its business model of hookup culture>bring back local third places where humans naturally meet each other and hook upit's shrimple
>>531280400Personally? I am nutting in my wife, unprotected creampies for months, multiple times a week
>>531306853If theyre white yes, if theyre brown, no.
>>531306459holy SHIT youre 1) absolute newfag 2) absolute bluepilled normalfag 3) need to lurk moar.simpcuck literally creating his own bro-science cope whereby things EVOLVE SUBSERVIENCE to external enforcements that would obviously be REDUNDANT if they were actually subservient.Heres what we know women alone among mammals evolved: concealed ovulation, to cuck their provider-mate. To which men responded by developing ENFORCEMENTS that would be utterly unnecessary if women actually bonded monogamously on the basis of simply being commanded to.>A woman evolved to be governed strictly by her fathernope everything evolves to maximize the benefit of its in-group, thus individual self-sacrifice like kamikazes will never occur among women, who all have an in-group of precisely one, which makes them not only hate-worthy but in fact lower than dogs
>>531300974It's so funny how TPTB want the benefits of civilization but they absolutely insist that it must be composed of brown retards who can't maintain it.
>>531280400Execute all the feminists.
>>531295909>"finally" men are getting the blame for not all being six feet tall with six figure incomes and also having a six packWomen like this genuinely deserve less. This sense of entitlement (and that is what it is) isn't good for anyone, themselves least of all.Thankfully I don't deal with this sort that often.
>>531306657No, I understood you perfectly fine.You should understand that 99,9% of problems in modrn industrialized countries are due to big nose middle man.In case with birth rates, it's the landlords who prevent young people from having roof over their heads, because can't buy, can't rent. You're done, it's over. No women will even look your way if you're like that. They are not crazy and can reason too.Landlords act as middle man. Housing is there. People in need of it are there. A fucking house is not a sci fi tech, it's mass manufactured and cheap. People are still making enough to be able to afford it.But the middleman wants his cut. And his cut is so big that the majority cannot afford it. And housing is kept like a hostage away from people.You want a roof over your head? Pay up the tribute.
>>531306574Some of them are. You don't take birds out on walks.Maybe you should get your ideology straightened out, maybe take a break from imageboards for a while yeah? Go ask your mom if women are animals or not.
>>531307118>things EVOLVE SUBSERVIENCE to external enforcements that would obviously be REDUNDANT if they were actually subservient.What? Things evolve subservience. Sure. Therefore things are subservient. How would that redudancy be even possible?What am I missing?
>>531295909roflmao same bitch https://www.dailymail.co.uk/lifestyle/article-14791847/failed-IVF-partner-died-grief-desperate-measures-sperm.htmlleft her bf who wanted kids for a chad, 11 years later they want kids but have trouble, chad offs himself, she harvests his sperm, idk not gonna read all of it but a good laugh
>>531307118>if women actually bonded monogamously on the basis of simply being commanded to.It's more complicated than that. Women didn't evolved to be married to one man. This is the recent civilisational constrained ... contract.Women back in the day for tens of thousands of years joined a new "family group", and they joined very young to be under a man in his prime. Say 15 and 25 or 14 and 30 or something. Thing is the girl is not just married to the man. The girl is now married to his family group. Not that she has sex with everybody or something but she's now a part of that group and is in a no escape possible and to the death compromise with that group. But it might happen that "her man" is not the best in that group, so she can probably cuck him, or get raped (willingly or not) by a stronger man.More common though is that high male mortality will claim her man. Either through starvation, hunting problems or war with other family groups. Or simply old age. Women often survived the initial man they "belonged" to and had to pass on to his brother, father, nephew, whatever. The girl was with the group for life. no matter what. The girl was not necessarily with "her man" for life, no matter what. Girls had to adapt. They adapt by bonding deeply and hard to "her man" but then having a flexibility to move on onto another. And she must always keep her options open no matter what because the girl is supposed to "outlive" his man and eventually marry into another man of the group.
>>531307502^we got another christcuck here who says shit like "a wife should be submissive to her husband, and vice versa" lmao. what youre apparently missing is the "external enforcements" part, redundant by definition if they naturally just wanna follow orders (thats called a robot)
>>531308068Where did I say anything like that? Get the fuck out of here shitskin, and learn some English.You seem like a child, I'll throw you another bone though:They want to follow orders, just not from any loser.
>>531308199>They want to follow orders,no they dont. no one does. you might have noticed they staged an entire sexual-cultural revolution specifically on the basis of not obeying men. JUST LOL its like the twilight zone with you cucked simpniggers
>>531280400BBC
>>531280400get women out of the workforce and back in the home, problem solved.
>>531307941>The girl was not necessarily with "her man" for life, no matter whatWell, she was with him for HIS life, typically.
>>531308651You probably haven't interacted with women much.
>>531308651Women did not do that. It was the morally degenerated values of the upper class forced on the everyone else.
>>531308651Yes... they do. The sexual revolution was about them not wanting to be paired off 1 to 1 to their male equivalent, which they deem a loser. They all want to submit to a 10/10 chad, which most guys arent. Womens biology is essentially telling them to be harem slaves to a king. Theyll do whatever you tell them to and obey if youre this guy.
>>531309045The point though is that the girls had to adapt to being passed around from one man to the other inside the group. And sometimes even sold to other different unknown groups.Women have been more like cattle than men, really.
>>531309188Right. Thats the stupidity of giving them rights. You can have thevwhole monogamy thing. But it requires you to put your boot on their necks and dominate them as men. It will never happen naturally on its own. Making them 2nd class citizens is required for this, and actually makes the world a much better place by providing structure.
>>531309846The whole*
>>531309162>They all want to submit to a 10/10 chad>until an 11/10 chad comes along>this is still le submission somehow>oh and theyre still not even interested in having chad's babies btwthe sheer desperation to give women a redeeming quality this is exactly why no action will ever be taken: reisdual women-are-wonderful worship from Gen X mama's boys. She raised you but also somehow raised your sister who aborts. CURIOUS! There goes the "women are the conscience of society/maintain stigmas" desperation redeeming-quality. lets get some threads about the redeeming qualities of niggers and jews, which are equally valid and relevant amirite
>>531309904Youre like, really dumb and brown, bud. There was nothing redeeming implied there. Yes. They'll go to whoever can keep them, until someone beats the current king.
>>531280400Artificial wombs, harvested eggs/sperm give up ownership of any offspring conceived by such methods to the state
>>531310125>There was nothing redeeming implied therethis whole convo youre butting into is about whether theyre NATURALLY COMPLIANT i.e. a good trait. You said:>They'll go to whoever can keep them, until someone beats the current king."theyre loyal until theyre not" means theyre not loyal or obedient you massively retarded faggot. They dont "submit to chad" nor to men nor to God himself. they are their own in-group which is unique among all creatures and thus worthy of hate.
>>531309846I don't disagree.
>>531310649Natural compliance isnt a good trait, shitskin. Its something browns and women have in extreme common.
rape is not barbarianism, god loves rape
>>531311014>Natural compliance isnt a good trait,it is from the male 1488 view we were using in the discussion, which might take some imagination for you as a jewish tranny
>>531280400It's immoral to reproduce on this world. don't worry about the birth rates.
>>531305028This slav speaks the truth. Respect to you.>>531307118I believe you are an assisted LLM with a technician. You're ability to agitate, you're petty quarrels over technicalities done without incentive. You are a proverbial chaos agent, you are fomenting discord, and utilizing common adjectives like "rich tapestry" directly overused by GPT 3.5. I believe the anon warning us about disinformation agents here in this very thread is correct. Be vigilant friends.
>>531280400she would never be interested in any of you chud incels
>>531280400Why should we?
>>531280400Japan fucked up importing browns and blacks rather than whites. Nobody wants asian men, brown or black men. Japanese women want to be bred by white males. If japan wanted to improve birth rates they'd be flooding the country with white chads
