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So what kicks it off? And who wins? Who backs up who? I feel like there will be 3 group who rises against the democrats and republicans.
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With the Iran war, i do not think a US civil war is likley anytime soon. Both left and right, pretty much agree now that the current regime is irresponsbile and now the political disconent will be channeled via this into the next midterm election.
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>>531410907
It is irresponsible lol
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Nobody, it'll just be a bunch of fat men rolling down hills for a couple of weeks and then mouthbreathers pretending like they don't know why prices are so high and there is little food on the shelf.
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i would be fully on board with an independent upper midwest and deporting everyone not from here
won't happen tho, no one has the balls to do anything nor willing to do what would be needed for that (including myself)
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>>531410840
Something like nuclear war/WW3, economic collapse, or a natural disaster.
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>>531410840
There will be no civil war. It will instantly be a race war with blacks and browns looting and burning down stores in majority blue states.

All the white progressives will be saying BUT I'M ON YOUR SIDE as Tyrone and Punjabe crush a rock over their head.

Red states will be fine because they have all the food and majority white populations.
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i can't actually imagine a civil war happening

like, what would people even do? go to their nearest gas station and just start shooting people according to bumper stickers?
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>>531410939
>It is
case in point, even the leaf agrees
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>>531411071
the real civil war is already happening, and you do not even realise. It is the neet revolution, the young people that are checking out of soceity, are historically the same demographic that would have started the revolution. In modernity, open revolt is futile, so they rebel in the only way they can, by not particpating
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>>531410840
>Des Moines
>unity aligned
Ames maybe. Ankeny probably not but Des Moines? Gigakek. Whoever made that map has clearly never been here.
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>>531410840
PATRIOTS TONGUE MY ANUS
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>>531410840
Whoever made that map knows nothing about Nevada.
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>>531411299
nevada fell for "no tax on tips" like fucking suckers lmao
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>>531410840
Nothing. We're too busy working just to survive.
We can't even have children because we work a combined 80 hours a week for scraps.
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>>531410840
That map has way too much blue.
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>>531411445
>The “no tax on tips” provision passed. It became law on July 4, 2025, as part of the larger “One Big Beautiful Bill Act” (signed by President Trump). This creates a federal income tax deduction of up to $25,000 for qualified tips in certain occupations, effective for tax years 2025 through 2028 (with income phase-outs and other limits).
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>>531411687
>vegas tourism dies
>no tax on no tips

it's a literal monkey paw wish
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so which is anti jew?
Or is this another AIPAC orchestrated civil war
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>>531410840
zogland vs non-zogged
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>>531411033
It would be satisfying seeing the self-hating White "allies" realise their Black friends are going to kill them anyhow, because they are just another White devil lol
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>>531411875
>already knows any violence will be to further zionists division
well done anonkun
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>>531411799
Weird transition to Vegas, but here's a good explanation as to why it turned to such shit

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0mxmn5WlTm0
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>>531411183
fucking this. the whole idea of young men forming a militia, organizing raids and having cohesion enough to plan and defend is so fucking cringe. we've got an entire generation of rock bottom testosterone gooners who are inspired by the latest reddit post and no family or community to fight for. at the very most there will be BLM level popcorn fart rioting and then everyone goes home and orders jamboy ubereats
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>>531412064
>fucking this
If this correct, then the "solution" or "win" condition, is also implied. In the sense, of providing meaning, a sense of purpose AND bridging the gender divide. I think current economic conditions are still too comfortable, but give it 20 more years of stagnating real wages, and suddenly Bob who has a stable office at the Nvidia data center is suddenly very sexy, especially fo Stacey with a kid from Jamal.
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>>531410907
>Both left and right, pretty much agree now that the current regime is irresponsbile
No they don't. Tucker and Fuentescels are not the bulk majority of the GOP. Most still back Trump and the war; every poll confirms this.
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>>531411992
Long story short, it was NIGGERS
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>>531410840
If all magas could be exterminated, it would be a paradise world.
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>>531411071
It would look like a coup that gets dragged out into a military campaign.

Libtards continuing to attack Teslas would just be more of their usual terrorism, not a civil war. But if they got recruited into a libtard army and sent in human waves against entrenched positions such as the White House or military bases, then you're in Red Army vs White Army civil war territory like what happened in Russia.
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>>531410840
That will never happen. Targeted assassinations of AIPAC, ADL, Kikeniger, and FEDglowie are more likely to occur.
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>>531412064
Then do something you massive faggot
Protip: you wont
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>>531410840
>And who wins?
China
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>>531410907
In normal times I'd agree but everyone here is beyond pissed these days and the 'don't know' % in polls has dropped to nearly zero. There's a possibility you see rioting again this summer. I can think of several plausible scenarios but don't want to spell them out. But the long-range weather forecast is for an unusually hot summer and coupled with high energy prices I can see things getting spicy by June.
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>>531410840
Colorado won't be able to do shit. The population is divided pretty well here. It's a state that would be crippled with infighting.
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>>531412908
I never said anything needed to be done, you niggerlipped low iq faggot
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>>531410840
why do retards keep claiming the us is on the brink of civil war
we KNOW what the leadup to a civil war looks like, and we're not in it. the american elites are more or less unified, trump and his cultists are the exception not the rule. bubba in bumfuck kansas and emily in NYC hating each other does not spark a civil war
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>>531411033
>It will instantly be a race war with blacks and browns looting and burning down stores in majority blue states.
No it won't. You've never been in an actual riot.
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>>531413151
Oh yeah. People are already pissed right now. When the temps rise and you add physical misery to it, powder keg America is definitely back. Trump is probably hoping for it, honestly -- anything he can use to cancel elections is a good thing for him.
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>>531411183
>>531412256
You are insane. No amount of waiting is going to magically make women more attracted to you. Also neeting is 100% Jewish and is designed to keep young men useless and therefore powerless
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>>531411071
Women do not get a vote in a war.
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>>531413343
>No amount of waiting
Who said anything about me or waiting. I am simply stating a historical fact. That once social securty systems collapse, women "redsicover" that indvidual men have something to offer. Neeting is not designed by anyone, it is a choice by young people to not particpate in a system that does not have their best interests at heart. Otherwise, you wouldn't get a cross cultural phenomena like
>lying flat
>hikonomori
>neet
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>>531413241
>bubba in bumfuck kansas and emily in NYC hating each other does not spark a civil war
You can't rob peter to pay paul forever and keep expanding that relationship.
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>>531412064
You cannot increase cost relative to production forever along an exponential curve and expect a system to continue, but that is exactly what is going to happen until there's no ability to ship food and no ability to maintain electrical systems.
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>>531413712
When did this happen, historically? Where economic incentives made women with modern rights and education settle down and start having three kids each?

Women never "Choose" the correct option, they either have rights (and always always always choose suicide) or they don't have rights (the society survives another generation)
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>>531413733
another retarded muttmerican that doesn't understand how civil wars work
until there are 2 elite factions with irreconcilable differences, there will be no civil war
and fyi, they'll just start squeezing muh yt race more if the finances get too tight. they don't give a shit what color you are. they've already started slashing government programs that spend most of their money on white people
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>>531413953
Show flag lmao
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>>531410840
this map is retarded
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>>531413712
It's pushed to keep you passive. How are you going to have even half the skills to build a house in the woods and practice farming and animal husbandry if you can't even wash a dish
>give it 20 more years of stagnating real wages, and suddenly Bob who has a stable office at the Nvidia data center is suddenly very sexy, especially fo Stacey with a kid from Jamal
Also news flash. The above statement is already true. If you can't get a half way decent chick with a real, big boy job like that then you are 100% the problem
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>>531410840
nothing will happen. the goyim will watch TV and play video games until the country is completely overrun with third worlders. Then Whites will be a persecuted minority in their own country and be forced to live in military fortresses like South Africa.
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>votes in king zionist
>hmmm should I fix my mistake and vote more responsibly in the future?
>naaaaah! Im going to retreat into a world of fantasy and imagine gunning down libtards and brownoids
Cringe
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>>531414294
Civil war was inevitable since 1960 you retard, and Kamala Harris wasn't going to change that.
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>>531413982
>I can't answer any of what he said
>I'll accuse him of being a jew or an indian!!!
you're why the rest of the world hates us you dumb fucking zogcattle
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>>531413866
>When did this happen, historically?
The collapse of the Roman, Chiense and Indian Empire, all these advanced cultures were subdued by "barbarians", and the worsening living conditioned created a new incentive structre for families. I am not saying this will happen over-night Anon.
>then you are 100% the problem
May I show you anon, the Women's petition against coffeehouses
>https://exhibits.lafayette.edu/files/original/a35e16448679b6548c0e7733b04b23c214ea073c.pdf
Your "criticism" of identifying the "problem" is you aligning with the current system and looking down on other men, perpetuating the same type of value assumptions as the current system ... but yes, there is nothing new under the sun
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>>531414483
>>531414040
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>>531410840
kys chink
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>>531410840
even though israel has compromised trump since epstein worked for mossad

even though israel started a war with iran that's going to destroy our economy

there are establishment democrats like josh shapiro doubling down in israel, and AIPAC is still financing dem candidates. israel is at an all time high disapproval rating with democrats and all it would take for people to stay home and not vote democrat would be for the democrats to be israel puppets. just happened in illinois a few days ago. stratton won for not having AIPAC money (if i read articles correctly, and AIPAC will spend millions just to keep people who don't support israel from winning
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>>531411071
I know a lot about arson and fires because I literally survived one. That’s all I will say on the internet.
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>>531411033
blue states control the ports, the refineries, and the financial system.
Good luck. The entire world is ready to kill you MAGA fucks for being troglodytes.
And seeing how you dumb fucks decided to live in places that require vehicles and long trips to Costco, you are proper fucked.
And yes, this will happen because we're not going into a future with millions of idiots walking among us who thought electing a con artist as president was a good idea.
You should all be executed and replaced with hard working foreigners. And you will be. And it will be entirely your own fault (and the fault of your gay parents).
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>>531410840
>So what kicks it off?

The elites.

And right now those elites seem to be satisfied. Notice despite Trump being universally hated by everybody except his core GOP MIGA loyalist base, there're hardly any protests. Where's BLM protests? Where is Antifa? Where are the Pink Hat feminists? First term Trump was plagued by protests every other month but now that he is at his weakest there's hardly any. It's clear that most of so called "resistance" is just controlled opposition.

If you think the people will rise up and start fighting forget about it. America would need collapse in to Africa for an "organic" civil war to happen. That isn't happening anytime soon. Despite all the bullshit going on, that would still take decades of decline to materialize.
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>>531415207
Very cool, glownigger-kun, but nothing ever happens.
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>>531412256
No self respecting man will want a woman who has pre-cucked him with a nigger.
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>the florida keys being red
lol
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2 weeks!!
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>>531410840
a quick decline followed by a whimper, that's what the last breath of America will be like
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>>531414449
You literally said you weren't American so you're using a VPN lol. You're starting off suspect because you're lying and stupid enough to admit it.
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>>531410840
>what
read about it
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>>531410840
>a 3 group
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>>531410907
Constant D&C psyops from the government and mass media corpos has everyone effectively divided. Man vs woman, white vs every other race, rich vs poor, boomer vs everyone beneath them, etc. Americans cannot settle their differences and many cope with life via drug abuse or therapy AKA legal psychotropic drug abuse. Alao the state/fed system is broken and allows too much influence from major metropolitan cities that cannot even run themselves properly.
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>>531410840
I side with th Catholics. Fuck evangelicals and Calvinists
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>>531413343
>you have to contribute to a system that hates you because... you just DO, okay?
no, I don't think I will
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>>531415404
There are no protests because irl nobody likes or sympathizes with iran.
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>>531410840
the civil war started in 2015, maybe earlier. Probobly when obama started genociding canadians with economic policy.
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>>531421174
>richman north of richmond
pretty much, the system benefits from a divided and distracted population
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>>531410840
>Colorado Springs is blue
Okay nigger
Also knowing how pathetic republicans are I wouldn’t be surprised if the “patriot aligned” side loses in a month to literal faggots with glocks
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>>531410840
this will be all about kikes and their miggers vs. normal people
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>>531410840
>who wins?
the hispanics
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>>531410907
Who's we? The American people have agreed your people need to go, period.
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>>531411033
And let me guess Sucking Jew dick and letting Pajeets in is what the winning side would do?
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>>531411967
I think it's even funnier watching generations of white whipped out in one Jew mad war after another, just to be replaced with Pajeets.
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>>531410840
there will be no civil war, nobody cares enough. everybody thought the summer of love 2020 was the kickoff of a civil war and it seemed serious enough, but when trump "lost" the election and the pissy payments to throw bricks ran dry so did the enthusiasm. most of the crats' financial scams have been uncovered so there just isn't enough laundered cash left to fund another gift card revolution for long enough.
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>>531412282
(((Poll)))
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boomers who have their minds rotted from watching too much jewish capeshit: the thread
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>>531410840
California and Texas are really the only two states that could secede and be okay on their own.
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>>531410840
Illegal immigrants
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>>531412282
Can't wait for you traitors to be raped in the midterms with your (((polls))).
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>>531429728
I can't wait for the illegal immigrant party votes to disenfranchise white people
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>>531410840

Pic related.
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>>531413699
Checked
>pic related
Pretty big revelation in 2016. These past couple of years have been pretty open white hatred though. It won't be too long now before the anti whites try to shove us into their longhouse.
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>>531410840
Cheese dick Wisconsin fags in for a world of hurt if they try crossing my river, i don't care how White they look are a commiefag is a commiefag.
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I had a dream once where the collapse happened. A good chunk of the uniparty defected to China and the richest ones fled to Israel. What was left were mercenaries, all the people too poor to leave after collapse, walking dead type shit, energy companies basically became the government because people began to question if politicians were needed at all since they'd caused the nation to fragment and destroy itself.
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>>531410840
It'll never happen. The closest thing will be an American version of the troubles. I know Jiang recently said that but I've been saying it on here for years.
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>>531430168
>People would never choose to just stop going to work and sit in a trench
Uh
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>>531410840
>What kicks it off?
Civil wars start with civil strife. In the lead up to the American civil war there were a number of small skirmishes between towns or within towns. An example of this was a crisis called "Bleeding Kansas," where towns would basically raid one another.

My guess is what will happen is there will be something like a black lives matter protest but it will enter a suburb. They'll be protesting at the private home of someone like a policemen. They'll claim that someone heard the magic N word and will start to get rowdy and begin destroying private property. At this point they will have discovered that they fucked up: the entire town will start indiscriminately firing into the crowd. Some folks in the crowd who are armed with (some illegal) weapons would fire back, arguably in self defense. Many people would die. Some of the people killed would include the young children of people living in the suburbs.
It would be the single largest shootout in American history.

It obviously won't be as bad as at 9/11 but the imagery of cackling black and brown people shooting white kids in their houses, all caught in 4K on their Ring cameras, would completely fuck with the middle American psyche in a deeply personal way. Instead of unidentifiable people dropping out of a giant office building, this would be people who look like your own family members in houses that look like any house in America getting slaughtered. The response from the right would be obvious. The response from the left would be obscene: every single person from Jimmy Kimmel down to Hassan would be justifying what the crowd did and demonizing the "rich whites" in their "elite suburban homes."

Things would devolve pretty quickly. No one's going to trust an Amazon driver or their own coworkers or their nurse afterwards. And people would feel completely justified in all forms of violence out of pure desire to defend themselves from an imminent threat.

Anyway, something like that.
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>>531431211
Bleeding Kansas was a bunch of feds funding guerillas to go into Kansas and kill slave owners so that's not a good example of grassroots
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>>531431326
Who do you think is going to fund gangs of roving niggers going into white towns and murdering their kids? The Salvation Army?
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>>531431431
Okay so hypothesis 1, feds sponsor guerillas and accidentally kick off a civil war
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>>531410840
>CIVIL WAR 2.0
What US organization would be crazy enough to threaten Uncle Sam?
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>>531411033
>red states would be fine
No they wouldn't, foreign actors would arm/supply the opposition to destabilize or take over those areas
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>>531431572
We'll just have to turn off the Internet
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>>531431532
Itself
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>>531431475
Or George Soros or some international clique. Maybe the Russians trying to destabilize stuff. You know all the orange "Stop Oil" activism is sponsored by Cuba?
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>>531411033
Bro you gottem mad with this one LOL
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>>531431742
I mean communist activism in commie cities doesn't really matter. If us cities were reduced to ash most people would shrug
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>>531431723
So, in other words, the "Civil War" would be strictly political - so business as usual..
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>>531410840
Imagine fighting for a democrat or republican jewish coalition. There will be no civil war. People are smart enough to know there’s greener pastures elsewhere. Why would you fight for a brown shithole?
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>>531410840
Now that the JQ is worldwide there will be no more civil wars anon. Fuck we might get to Mars by the end of this decade if I’m right. Peace on Earth. Jesus makes an appearance.
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>>531431897
I don't know FBI why would anyone fight for the US?
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>>531412282
You are retarded
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>>531410840
oh yeah. what did happen to these threads? they kinda stopped like, 2025-ish.
>hey, remember when people said ice was gonna cause a civil war. good times.
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>>531432108
>Ice exposes the federal government has no jurisdiction in socialist states
Hmm
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>>531431475
>feds sponsor guerillas and accidentally kick off a civil war
weirder things have happened Anon, case in point:
>After the war, Hitler returned to Munich.[92] Without formal education or career prospects, he remained in the Army.[93] In July 1919, he was appointed Verbindungsmann (intelligence agent) of an Aufklärungskommando (reconnaissance unit) of the Reichswehr, assigned to influence other soldiers and to infiltrate the German Workers' Party (DAP). At a DAP meeting on 12 September 1919, Party chairman Anton Drexler was impressed by Hitler's oratorical skills.
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>>531432245
But Hitler was a based glowie, glowies love Nazis
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>>531410840
>missouri is heavily contested
What troon post op tranny freaks are making this masteubatory fantasy shit you'll all be executed in a week just save yourself time by doing it now so you won't have to suffer
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>>531432315
>>531429901
The next Tom is probably in some FBI training camp right now, being lectured on how to deal with BLM subversion
>In summer 1919, Hitler joined the Information Office of the Bavarian Military Administration. This military office gathered intelligence on political parties in Munich and provided anti-Communist “political education” for the troops. In July, Hitler attended an anti-Communist propaganda training course. There, he heard lectures on history and politics that likely influenced some of his thinking.
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>>531415207
>blue states control the ports, the refineries,
Right wingers do the actual work there. Do you really think a bunch of office people at a port would do anything to someone?
>and the financial system.
Worthless paper dollars
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>>531432569
The last thing glowniggers want to do is destabilize the US because they might lose control of their game. That's why they just blast us with endless propaganda and brainwashing instead and keep the tracks running so fast that you can't see around you
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>>531432176
oh. thats the new cope?
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>>531432724
New cope? More like 250 years old cope. Anyone surprised by ice not actually scooping out all the trafficked subhumans in socialist cities should tell you all you need to know about the state of the US
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>>531410840
There needs to be leaders in a civil war otherwise at most there is just spontaneous conflict. Who are the leaders?
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>>531413263
Riot happens niggers start looting.

Maybe you have never been in an actual riot.

>>531424218

Canada is a case of jeet suicide
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>>531432176
You'll never be a real woman faggot
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>>531433080
What if I told you that ice is probably unconstitutional
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>>531432846
>he thinks ICE is as old as the 13 colonies
anon.......
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>>531432846
>Chicago
>St Paul Minneapolis
>LA
Delusional
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>>531426055
All politics will be divided, it's pretty much a yes or no system with battle lines at any compromise. When ever both sides agree it will just happen unless it's like rescheduling Marijuana lol.

Some of the worst time for freedom is when both sides start agreeing. 80s and 90s we see shit like censoring music and banning guns pop up because both sides started to agree. Then 911 hairband and both sides treasure away more freedom.

Luckily Obama heavy handed bs lead to current state of party line gridlock.
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>>531414376
>>531410840
The American Civil War 2.0 begins and ends in a place called
>My Documents
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>>531433171
Obviously I'm referring to us immigration in specific anarcho tyrannical ports being broken since nearly the founding of the us, ports run by the democrat party
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Civil War 2 is stupid.
We should just balkanize the USA into several smaller nations. I've already mapped it out according to racial demographics.
We need to segregate our society. Send the libtards to the Western coast. Send the globalists to the East coast in the North-East. The beaners get the South-West and the black and brown people get the South. We can all voluntarily relocate our bodies. And then we can all have nice little ethnostates just for our own tribe of people. We can have our own governments and our own religions and our own presidents. Finally we can stop fighting and everyone will be happy when we segregate.

The only people who actually want to consolidate power, are evil jew globalists, everybody else wants to have their own land to be left alone to fuck and have kids inside of. It's not that complicated. Just banish the people who are not like you and we'll have heaven on earth.
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>>531433312
The problem is niggers and spics don't deserve more than a single state because they will run them all into the ground
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>>531410840
we Midwest fags will close it all off and starve you retards on the coasts
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>>531410840
Team blue would win and it isn’t close
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>>531429629
California would destroy itself in like 4 years if it left. The real issue with California is it's gdp numbers are reliant on it being American. Many of those service and tech companies would leave post succession.

Texas is a mining state with strong industrial backbone.
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>>531433277
>talking about ICE specifically
>"n-no, I meant the US's immigration policy!!"
its ok to fuck up.
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>>531433475
California would die immediately be a use they import all their food to feed their beaners
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>>531433478
Yes the concept of the federal government moving into a state and telling them to kick out trafficked children that they want to eat and rape obviously isn't legal because the socialists told them to fuck off

So how do you explain that?
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>>531433408
Team blue can’t even figure out what a woman is and also can’t survive without government assistance.
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>>531433573
>how do you explain my schizophrenic ramblings
I dont think you could?
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>>531412282
>every poll confirms it
The polls which weren't valid previously are now valid?
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>>531410840
Geography certainly favors the patriot side.

Build up defenses at the Rockies.

Protecting your corn and grain in the plains.

Surround the central blue in siege, but just let them starve.

Hard push across Appalachia who allies with your cause even in unity states, allowing you to take control of the east.
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>>531433729
>Be socialist state
>Declare yourself a sanctuary state
>This is essentially like nullifying the federal government
>We're living through a nullification crisis lead by communist Jews
I love nullification but I don't think communist Jewish illegals in the US should have that power
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>>531413199
>crippled with infighting
Why do people just believe this sort of magical assertion when the evidence is right before your eyes? Team red would stand by and get dominated JUST LIKE THEY’VE DONE POLITICALLY FOR DECADES
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>>531410840
Gayest shit ever
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>>531410840
Red and blue aren't going to war. They are two noisy minorities

I'd be more afraid to be a globalist
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>>531410840
>jews vs jews
Can't wait to see who wins, guys!
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>>531410840
I'm no elite but population culling is not as bad as culled goyims make it out out be.
There are too many people around, because of this nepotism is rampant and this is how we end up with extreme unemployment and indian wages.
As long as jews are also culled as race in the process it's actually for the benefit of those who won't be culled.
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>>531433931
The Republican party probably isn't your friend in this situation no. But to claim the ethnic mobs and effeminate new males in the cities would do anything but shrivel up and die is a hilarious proposition
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>>531431572
As if we don’t know your plan
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It'll be something innocuous like indians suddenly own all mayoral seats overnight in a quiet suburb that has traditionally had 0 attendees in meetings. They implement some policies to make it JUST LIKE INDIA WOW! which make perfect sense if you're brown but drive you insane if you're white. They get killed overnight and the news spreads and snowballs.
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>>531410840
Civil War will cancel after Republicans lose the mid terms>>531410840
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>>531410840
Americans are way too retarded to fight a civil war.
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>>531434204
If we have 4 more years of human trafficking and white replacement decency will be back in power!
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>>531415207
The financial system loooool. You know being a parasite only works when the host is around and not yet willing to shed you, you get that right?
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>>531410840
>who wins?
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>>531433365
>The problem is niggers and spics don't deserve more than a single state because they will run them all into the ground
They will also inevitably try to flood into white states prowling for white race traitors to let them in and start sabotaging shit. They believe in nothing except wiping out whitey either through race mixing or good old fashioned violence. Giving them opportunities doesn't matter because they hate white people with a passion shrimply for being white. It's like they're walking and talking predators that are humanoid enough for people to mistake them for real people. Make no mistake (You) might not be really racist but non whites are.
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>>531434583
Or Tom.
Tim, Tom, someone with a short, simple name.
Those with the gift of brevity shall reign supreme when the bureaucracy falls.
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>>531434360
Everything points to socialist cities in the verge of complete financial collapse under the shitskin burden. That's why they need a constant influx of them living in hotels paid for by the federal government. It's a giant real estate rent scam based on illegal immigrants getting extorted. Only if the illegal immigrants get everything for free, it's the government extorting itself and funnelling the money into their invisible intangible welfare based economies

Or something
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>>531410840
whats going to happen here? there are no niggers here
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>>531410840
You won't do shit, and you will never be a woman. You lost the popular vote btw
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>>531433225
>both sides agree
the whole binary left vs right, is such a reductive anglocentric approach to politics. Even the UK has now started to get at leats a viable third party vote. Its a paper tiger, and the system will not change, but the whole cycling of red to blue, to red, to blue again and then back and forth without anything substantive changing that is part of the issue. At least the cold hard math of compounding interest means that there will be an arithmetric end to this maddness eventually ...
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>>531434904
What's funny is that left vs right only works in a country based on liberalism as socialism exists outside of the political left right spectrum as a sort of post politics philosophy. But hey uh, 99% of people don't understand this
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>>531434800
the edge of the red here in the circled area is the hualapai mountains. the desert below. the desert is inhabited sparsly by boomers, tweakers, and others. the mountains are largely uninhabited and it is inhospitable. there are very few sources of water or food. it doesnt really make sense that this would be a conflict line so i think this map is bullshit
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>>531434698
And remember, most people won't survive this.
Prepare accordingly.
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>>531410840
Why is the default assumption that it will be organized based on party lines? The US is organized into states. States are semi-independent but get a shitload of money from the federal government. If the federal government doesn't pay gibs, the state is basically on its own. If two states maybe compete for the same resources, there's nothing really holding them back from clashing. When shit hits the fan, will jim-bob and cletus really give a damn that they're both lifelong republicans, or will they just attempt to grab the dwindling resources for themselves under the organizational banner of statehood?
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>>531433576
Team blue owns all the cities, coasts and media. You can’t siege a modern city with small arms.
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>>531434127
>they wouldn’t do anything
Of course they would. They’re the side doing anything now. Right now, they continue to win victory after victory while team red pretends to celebrate a war nobody wanted.
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>>531435471
States haven’t really been independent in a century when the commerce clause bullshit really took off
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>>531433889
>sanctuary states
>>have they most ICE presence
weird.
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>>531412282
This, so much this. Only brown joo shills oppose the major combat operations.
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>>531435471
>When shit hits the fan, will jim-bob and cletus really give a damn that they're both lifelong republicans, or will they just attempt to grab the dwindling resources for themselves under the organizational banner of statehood?
Neighbors backstab their next door lifelong neighbors here over the pettiest bullshit imaginable. The motherfucker from the next state over during the resource wars might as well be an ayy lmao even if he is a white republican because that's shrimply not deep enough here. That's not gangbanger enough to be trusted.
Ah the joys of having basically no unity.
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>>531435681
I mean i don't really know shit, but isn't that dependence due to the wealth of the feds? And if you know, the money printer runs out of ink or something, that wealth would dry up and the national guard would have no incentive to listen to the feds (who in this scenario would be the ones who drove the country into the shit anyway). It's not like people would be at eachothers throats instantly but if a governor says no, what's stopping him? Rifts appear and everything comes under tension, the tension might then rupture at a point in the future.
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>>531410840
civil war faggots are retarded
who benefits from this? certainly not us
please have sex and touch grass etc
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>>531435624
>Socialists win victory after victory in the US
Outside of illegal shit like civil rights and loosing the US with dysgenics, what have socialists actually accomplished in the US?
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>>531434740
Imagine if they expelled all illegals and just gave American citizens free hotel travel vouchers instead. Same money being spent on hotels by the government, but the people visiting would actually have money to go and spend on tourist shit.
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>>531436299
Imagine if they spent the money on brown people on white people
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>>531435900
I mean that's definitely my understanding of the US, the country has been gradually atomized and individualized. If there's a collapse, not necessarily a civil war, like in the soviet union, will the US public be prepared? In russia, they were poor, used to barter and deals, had cheap housing, owned farmland (small gardens at their dachas), and i think were generally more pro-social towards each other, ive heard of subway attendants just showing up for work despite no pay because someone had to do it. And the 90s was still a horrible time for everyone. What happens to antisocial america where everything is maintained simply by enormous monetary flows, when that flow stops?
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>>531436006
It’s due to a court created interpretation of congressional authority called the dormant commerce clause. It let the feds basically legislate everything under the sun because “it COULD affect interestate commerce.”
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Red states win, libtards are 2 soft and gay
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>>531436556
Most people in the cities aren't even Americans and aren't even conscious so they will starve or form bands of marauders to survive
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>>531410840
It's going to be
>State enacts laws that prevent the federal government from enforcing federal law
>Federal government ignores them
>State police attempt to arrest federal agents
>Violence ensues
>Escalates across several states that want to secede (coasts)
>????
>Muh cibul wagh
Only problem is shit never happens and that it certainly won't be the act of a lone troon gun"man" or some group of retarded hillbillies in pick up trucks
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>>531436187
>women and fags
>socialists
They aren’t socialists. They are, and I am being completely free of irony here, fascists. They want an all powerful central state where the “morals” of the progressive stack are placed above all other considerations. Reminder that during the Biden admin “he” tried to create an agency with the power to use anti terror laws against those who “incorrectly interpreted otherwise correct facts.”
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>>531436922
>They want an all powerful central state where the “morals” of the progressive stack are placed above all other considerations.
That's de jure socialism
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>>531436953
De jure socialism is “worker ownership of the means of production” and isn’t related to the other concepts at all. You probably meant de facto, which would also be incorrectly used here since de facto socialism is “the government owns everything and decides what share you get.” It’ll be less than the shares given to party members, that’s certain.
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>>531435564
You can siege a city with a burning dumpster let alone small arms.
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>>531435893
Cool. When did D Day #2 happen?
Im waiting.
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>>531437100
Okay so we’re just saying silly things now
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>>531437042
That's Marxism which was formed like
60 years after socialism which Marx derided and called "utopian socialism". No marx does not have a monopoly on the definition of socialism
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>>531437130
You cant siege a city with F-16s. Sorry Biden. You can go back to sleep now.
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>>531437332
What? You can’t even follow the basic conversation
>>531437176
No definition of socialism has ever been about worshipping niggers, fags and feminists. Get real
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>>531437459
Actually yes, utopian socialism can be and was used as a tool to bring about nigger and fag worship
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>>531437569
If you can post a citation from “sixty years before Marx” that doesn’t require jumping through several layers of twists and assumptions to reach that conclusion I’ll kill myself on stream
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>>531437569
Oh and feminism
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>>531437130
I've seen bank robbers do it.
If it stops the cops it stops the lorry driver.
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>>531437662
Well then I won't tell you
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>>531436366
Checked
>Imagine if they spent the money on brown people on white people
A mere handful of autists would turn their garage setup into cutting edge R&D centers and uplift us out of experiencing another dark age. At the very least some hard working white normgroids would be able to start a business that would pay us enough to live life instead of penny pinching all day.
>>531436556
>If there's a collapse, not necessarily a civil war, like in the soviet union, will the US public be prepared?
The non whites and white race traitors would instantly come out of the woodworks to start eating the white people. That's what this society is now that roughly half of the crew on this here pirate ship are open traitors to the founding stock. Everybody knows that their next door neighbor statistically wants to unalive them. It's pretty much instantly boiling down to who shoots first.
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>>531410840
The South will never rise again
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>>531431211
A better example is Croatia or Kosovo in 1988 and 1989. Random acts of tit-for-tat violence which escalate into cycles of ethnic revenge, accelerated by media coverage until an actual civil war breaks out
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>>531437796
Racist
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>>531437724
>instantly boiling down to who shoots first
so basically the redneck gun culture, is a form of psychological coping mechanism that your "melting pot" metaphor, which is good for number go up elities, is a hellscape for the average person to live in. Am i understandign this correctly?
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>>531410840
>this fucking retard thinks PA would be blue
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>>531437700
Please, give me an excuse
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>>531438182
If you get into western philosophy at all you will eventually arrive at the same conclusions. Saint Simon is credited as creating socialism. I also frequently go back to Isidore Auguste Marie François Xavier Comte
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>>531434631
>It's like they're walking and talking predators that are humanoid enough for people to mistake them for real people.
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>>531410840
Both of you freaks are dying for pedos and Israel
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>>531435564
>We control Sarajevo. You can't siege a modern city with small arms
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>>531438330
>Comte
>Saint Simon
>Marx
Anon, you a painting with a VERY coarse brush here. The nuances and specific context in which their ideas arose, matter and speak directly to the their appliaction. Taking these out of these context, and applying them uncritical, leads to the very missatribution you decry. St. Simon's argument about the reorganiztion of soceity, spoke against the French Elite corruption at the time. It is akin to saying today the Epstein class should not be in power. Comte argued for a empirist religion, which was an argument against the Church authorty of the time. Which is akin to arguing against wokeism today, and insisiting that there are two genders. Marx's arguments about alienation and dialectical materialism, was an attempt tp showcase that the myth of Western progress in and of itself, represents a mechanism of worker exploiation. This is akin to seeing through that the Elon cabal, is just another version of the same old number go up club, just this time the object of worship is technobabble. Ridiculing and mocking these vapid authorties of their time, is the right response, case in point:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpXu9ft9h4M&t=657s

The issue, which always happens, is that people then notice that these speech patterns work to attack authority. They then use it, and all the cookoo interpretations and bullshit we all have, is then later used to justified some supposed hidden agenda of the orginal ideas. When it reality it was people who just applied the ideas incorrectly for their own petty power plays.
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>>531439101
*you are painting
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>>531438330
Saint-Simon also separated the industrial class from the idling class, the latter of which would include all the feminists and race-hustler niggers
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>>531413263
It won't be riots. We're an armed populace.
If there's no shooting, it's not a civil war.
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>>531439101
Shut up, you fucking swigger.
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>>531439101
It doesn't matter what they said it is how they were interpreted. Socialists love dumpstering previous doctrine. They opened the door
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>>531439267
I see, intelectual charity is one of your strong sides
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>>531439402
Fuck off, swede.
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>>531429901
>picrel
merely typing the numbers 7.62x39 on /k/ike these days will get a fucking thread pruned because of whatever is their ((((current programming))))
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>>531439393
>They opened the door
so did Lutherism, so did Augustine of Hippo, so did Jesus ... how far should we go back to look at how many people misinterpret and missappropriate ideas, before we see that this is perenial feature of human collective cognition and not just something that our ideological enemies do
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>>531410840
Civil war implies all of these jews and welfare foreigner golems are American, and they’re not.
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>>531439543
did i hit nerve? Anon
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>>531410907
this
age is the issue, not party
everyone above the age of 40 should be assumed to be zionist agent
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>>531439643
Name one time I did that
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>>531439643
Socialism is an ontological train derailment, a complete meme religion. Contrarianism for the sake of being contrarian. It does nothing to fix society's problems it just creates a machine to fight other machines
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>>531410840
The right owns more firearms and is better at using them, but race-traitors are much more insidious and will use whatever tactics they can to win.
I wouldn't put it past them to hold children hostage, feign surrender, or to operate undercover inside hospitals and places of refuge.
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>>531410840
Never gonna happen, people don't care about things enough to put themselves at risk anymore.
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>>531410840
There's not actually any juice for a "civil war"
Young lefties and righties don't actually hate each other enough for this, and the war wouldn't be fought by boomers.
Youth (Hint: The actual people who would do the 'war') are all just anti establishment because they get fucked by the ruling class every time they wake up.

The only saving grace of both sides of the establishment is that The US is very big, and nobody has formed a coherent social dogma to lead the youths into action, it's just disorganized anger and a sensation of hopelessness. They're waiting for Hitler, Mao, Mussolini, Lenin, Franco, Castro, Pol Pot, Etc.
One day someone that appears to know what they are doing, and isn't a geriatric boomer, will harvest the energy of this simmering dissatisfaction and be allowed to do anything they want with it. This has happened before, and it will happen again.
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>>531439999
Both the Japs and the Germans wrongly believed this about the USA going into wwii
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>>531439778
Uh huh. How's capitalism working out for you so far bud?
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>muh polls
Anyone, literally anyone citing a poll is a shill or agent, normal people do not treat polls like they mean anything outside of their EXTREMELY limited scope. The only valid metric to gauge public sentiment toward civil war is widespread targeted violence or a lack-thereof, everyone and their kid has a damned camera these days so we'd know. Stop trying to gaslight anons, you worthless fucks.
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South Korea is a traitor and a spy.
As long as South Korea is nearby, we can’t feel safe.

Because South Korea smuggled strategic materials to Iran, Iran was able to arm itself with weapons of mass destruction.

South Korean Firms Violate International Controls on Shipping Materials for WMDs to Iran and Syria
https://japan-forward.com/south-korean-firms-violate-international-controls-on-shipping-materials-for-wmds-to-iran-and-syria/

Editorial: S. Korea should clearly explain fire-control radar incident
https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20181228/p2a/00m/0na/017000c
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>>531440213
I think you are completely mistaken. The youth don’t organize because they are too dissimilar in goals and values due to their background differences. The U.S. is minority white if you remove boomers. A racial civil war is much more likely than a blue v red one. Why would a disaffected young white man join “revolutionaries” whose primary rallying cry is the destruction of the white man?

The examples you gave were primarily peoples united by history, or culture, or even religion.
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>>531440325
How is
>Thing only defined through the lense of a communist
Fuck if I know
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Civil War 2.0 between fat dykes vs fat rednecks, very curious which side will have the bigger balls.
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>>531431211
You are right that civil war needs strife to kick it off, but I think you are barking up the wrong tree to what the precipitating event will be.
No one is going to start a civil war over culture war shit. The civil war will start when the economy collapses because the government let the wealthy rape us into poverty and then get a bailout for it, while the average person loses everything and can't afford their homes/cars/food/kids. Wall street gambling with your money and using immigration and AI to delete jobs leaving people who "did everything right" left completely up shit creek and mad as hell about it.
Once the economic situation becomes functionally an existential crises for enough people, those people will demand that the ones responsible for ruining their lives be held accountable. And the narrative that this is the fault of immigrants and not the companies that hired them for less has worn thin.
Wall Street and the Government have become so closely entertwinned now that a revolt against one is a revolt against the other. So it will become a civil war.
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>>531440325
How is communism working for the North Koreans?
Yes, it's real communism. It's the logical end conclusion of Communism. Or as I'll term it; Late Stage Communism. :)
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>>531440325
Fine. How’s talking down to people with your gay little snide “bud” working for you? Would you say people enjoy your company?
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>>531431211
That’s similar to how the Tulsa massacre kicked off, btw. The progressives like to leave that part out.
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>>531438103
>is a form of psychological coping mechanism that your "melting pot" metaphor,
Without our guns we would be swarmed with zombie hordes numbnuts. Sweden hasn't fought a real war in centuries and it shows. Yeah bro living in an ethnostate like animeland where the reasoning behind guns are outlawed is because of
>muh culture
>muh safety of muh fellow people
What is American culture except making shekels now? We used to be the greatest platform for scientific and economic development that used to be our culture until longhouse commies started running around here. What is muh fellow people here now? Having guns makes perfect sense here now.
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>culture war shit
This is reductive. A primary social weapon of the progressive wing is to remove people from their jobs due to a social faux pas. The right does it on behalf of jews when commanded.

Of course, you don’t really believe what you’re saying as evidenced by your bizarre little aside on muh immogrants, which you simply couldn’t resist doing. You’re just brown, you think the entire rich class is white, and all of your opinions are based on this understanding.
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>>531436064
I hate this place
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>>531441006
Listen we get it you're superior, here's 60,000 Somalians
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>>531410840
>troon headcannon thread
you lost tranny, and you'd lose a civil war even harder. go dilate.
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>>531441113
My local atm has an option of switching the language to Somali. The town is like 97% white
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>>531410840
Gayest civil war scenario I've ever seen.
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>>531439704
>>531439393
>Socialists love dumpstering previous doctrine
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>>531440769
>Having guns makes perfect sense here now.
fair point
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>>531412282
>are not the bulk majority of the GOP.
You're right.
GOP is majority AIPAC bought parasites.
GOP needs a dismantling
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Civil wars are basically just political elites and insurgent groups having small skirmishes with the men who sign up to join their causes.

The first American civil war is really an anomaly because we talk about it like a regular civil war but in reality it was a war between nation-states.
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>>531410840
show nose OP
the civil war will be against Jews
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>>531410907
no they dont... the USA being in a foreign war isnt some new thing you simpleton.

If anything this just means a return to normal, and bodes well for the US economy since the mil/industrial complex has an outlet now.

Are some people disappointed that Trump didnt single handedly end hundreds of years of constant war longer then he did in his first term? sure... im disappointed he doenst give us each a million dollars and ice creams too but thats not enough to swap me over to supporting people who are insanely evil like the world wide left has become.

besides which, the left already declared civil war, and its simply fought by firing/deplatforming/arresting/etc and other social avenues... a "cold civil war" if you will.

The only thing that has changed is that finally, FINALLY, the right has woken up to the fact that the other side is a bunch of scumbags who purposely fuck shit up rather then admit they might ever be wrong.
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>>531444444
^
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>>531442191
>You're like socialists because of Christianity
Socialists are atheists you fish head. One of the main things that makes socialism a post modern post politics philosophy is it's abandonment of the majority of enlightenment and religion. Like, the "rights" that socialist paid protestors screech about on TV don't exist because socialist philosophy isn't the law in the US. Liberalism is. I don't even know how you can have a constitution and have socialists in your government. Civil rights for example is socialism. There's no basis for it in liberalism. Liberal natural rights stem from one's tribe and race
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>>531444588
not sure you got my point Anon, you are arguing against a strawman now
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>>531444793
You don't understand atheism then. Or socialism. It's anti philosophy, like postmodernism, deconstructionism. There's no "synthesis". I guess you could just ask everyone to join a commune
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>>531415207
>blue states control the ports
Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, and the Carolinas aren’t blue.
>the refineries
A quick search shows a high concentration of refineries are in Texas and Louisiana, with additional refineries in Alabama, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Utah, Kansas, Wyoming, and Montana
>the financial system
Oh no won’t someone think of le poor heckin jews.
>electing a le heckin con artist
If you vote at all, you were conned and told jews you consent to being assraped. Maybe people who believe in voting should be the ones executed
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>Laughable
Ain't NEVER gonna be this grand civil war like you pussies have been babbling about since at least 2007. Petty snitch societies of pussy ass dudes don't have civil wars. You are simple a coping cowards so give it a rest boy
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just think instead of participating in this thread, I'm at work and made $500. that could be you too.
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>>531410840
the urban warfare of the Memphis offensive would make Stalingrad look like a joke
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>>531445894
What are 500 petrodigital e-bucks going for these days
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>>531436064
UP needs to be lower so it looks like Michigan Pepe is being smug about it



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