How fast is this story going to disappear from American news now that the ATC recording puts blame on the FAA air traffic controllers?https://x.com/thenewarea51/status/2035926457394876837
ground traffic is their responsibility.
damn there's more plane than the whole 911
>air canadajeet pilots
>>531411235Time to replace them all with AI.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3C4h6nSNis
>>531411235It appears that the front fell off.
>>531411235ATC is at fault often. It is getting worse. It is in the news all of the time. How long have you been in Canada?
>You're saying I've got clearance?
>>531411456Watchu meen by dat?
>>531411306Yes
>>531412283I'd like to point out that that's not very typical.
>>531411235what a fucking goat rodeo. a united flight reported a strong odor and declared an emergency and an overwhelmed ATC basically just lost track of the situation and cleared a fire truck to cross an active runway where a passenger plane was in the process of landing. You can hear the situation unravelling minute by minute as the ATC loses his grasp on the broader situation as he focuses on the UA emergency. I don't see how this shit can even happen, the systems ATC uses should be more robust than relying on the average minds of a rapidly decaying country.
>>531411235>plane lands in NYC>immediately throws up
>>531411235duffy is an incompetent retard with 20 kids, no better thwn a niggerthis entire administration is like that, hegseth, trump, et altrillions for middle eastern holy wars but we cant clean up crime or have safe infrastructurecant wait to vote straight ticket democrat out of spite. no i didnt vote in 2024 for mr operation warp speed global shutdown blm riot apologist trump either, but i should have voted for kamala. republican evangelicals and their jewish overlords are an existential threat to domestic and international peace, and need to be voted out.
>>531414201we have trillions of dollars of datacenter compute and we can't have automated scheduling of airplanes
>>531414201He was doing at least 3 peoples jobs at once. Unfortunately this is very common now.
>>531412499OUTTA MY WAY PAN AM FUCKING SHITSWE GAAN
>>531414356Datacenter compute isn't much use in this case without extremely tight systems design. Most of that compute is used for brute forcing jeetery.
>>531414367I honestly blamed the individual controller based on just OP's linked audio, but listening to the whole incident makes me blame the shit system in place.
>>531414367trillions of dollars of economic damage over the past 3 weeks, but cant make computers schedule planes on finite paths. and cant hire a thousand new ATC operators, sorry, no money. got to spend money on the 100 million illegals.the usa is literally worse than the late stage roman empire.
>>531414440I have a masters in CS and another in discrete maths, we had the compute to easily coordinate airlines in the 80s, let alone today. kys u fucking poo flag.
>>531414522No shit. In terms of compute power it was probably doable in the 1970s. It's a matter of needing extremely competent people and institutional will to get it done.
>>531414461yes. blame is shared. the system should not have a single overworked or incompetent controller be a sole failure mode. it's basic systems design for systems requiring high availability and zero failures.
>>531411235I'm a Montrealer, and this is all over the news right now. Apparently, the flight was coming in from Montreal.Any word on casualties?
>>531414592you literally said the compute doesnt matter, faggotnigger. bet you dont even know what SAT solvers are, or how provable code and formal logic are used in critical systems in factories and places like nuke plants and weapons systems.but oh no we cant implement them in ATC because you're a fucking jeet so kys you piece of shit and go back to india or pakistan.
>>5314146072 dead, 2 critical, 70+ injured
>>531414607>Any word on casualties?60 green tagged.5 red.Also reports of two dead at the scene.
>>531414691You really are a stupid fuck aren't you. I was clear as fucking day the COMPUTE is there, I was pointing out the reason it hasn't happened. Jamboys are PART OF THAT REASON. I'm not a street shitter you illiterate fuckhead,
>>531412499Roger
>>531414749crash out harder for being called out that you're fecal matter larping as a human
>>531414607In the thousands Whole fucking airport is going up
>>531414607So far just two assumed, pilot an copilot. The entire front of the plane basically imploded.
>>531414201>should be more robust than relying on the average minds of a rapidly decaying countrySomething something complex system, something something competency crisis
>>531411306stopping when atc tells you to is truck driverxs responsibility.avoiding crqshing and maintaining situational awareness is pilot/fo's responsibility.ensuring politicians give FAA funding for sufficient staffing is everyone's responsibility.
>>531414599Correct
>>531414802It must actually hurt to be as retarded as you are and not realize it. WHY anon, why has it not been done? Because the same shit that causes companies to hire shit eating subcontinental human waste has made redesigning and modernizing, automating the ATC system a nearly impossible task. That corruption and retardation is where the lack of institutional will comes from. There is zero technical reason it can't be done, now take a fucking xanax or whatever the fuck you do.
>>531414866pilots of a landing plane cant do too much if a vehicle darts in front of it. jamming the throttle and attempting a touch and go doesnt always work.
>>531414201what the fuck is a firetruck doing on the runway in the first place?
Not enough ATCs and not enough pay probably Plus you think there would be a way to add a whole other group monitoring predictive systems but only raising concerns if needed but perhaps that adds even more complexity It’s something that needs improvement past just lost of trained ATCs
>>531415030Another flight was taxiing to the runway and aborted for anti-ice failure, then tried again and aborted again due to 'foul odor', and declared an emergency because crew and passengers reported feeling ill. Retards on Twitter are, of course, blaming anyone and everyone for trying to do their jobs.
>>531415030I haven't read the article but from that post I deduce that the strong odor considered an emergency was of fuel and not poop or stinky feet
>>531415030Repositioning. D is right in front of the station.
>>531415082Their pay is decent but the hours and working conditions are a nightmare.
>>531415188They're not even allowed to smoke anymore.It's just cruel.
>>531415082>Not enough ATCsFor context, the total amount of air traffic in the US today is about 2-3 times what it was forty years ago... but the total number of ATCs employed by airports in the US is about the same.
Crazy that an accident happened where the pilots successfully landed the plane and the passengers survived but the pilots died.
>>531411383Captain Antoine Forest and First Officer Mackenzie Gunther>>531414607Both pilots killed
New photos from passenger..
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>>531415308first few rows will get wet
>>531415082the last part is how trains operate in some asian nations. there are still trained conductors who get paid, but the trains are speed controlled and obstacle avoidance controlled and driven entirely by a computer (and they all communicate with each other).the conductor is just as an emergency failure override person.the US refuses to implement any systems like this, even on our subways and trains. it makes no sense, unless you understand that the elites want people dying for Moloch. to reiterate, conductors etc still get trained and paid, unions dont lose out.
>>531414201He was doing the job of like 3 people all day he was fried. Blame management for cost cuts
>Interviewer: Senator Collins, thanks for coming in.>Senator Collins: It’s a great pleasure, thank you.>Interviewer: This airplane that was involved in the incident at Laguardia thisweek...>Senator Collins: The one the front fell off?>Interviewer: Yeah.>Senator Collins: Yeah, that’s not very typical, I’d like to make that point.>Interviewer: Well, how was it un-typical?>Senator Collins: Well there are a lot of these airplanes flying around the world all thetime, and very seldom does anything like this happen. I just don’t want peoplethinking that planes aren’t safe.>Interviewer: Was this plane safe?>Senator Collins: Well, I was thinking more about the other ones.>Interviewer: The ones that are safe?Senator Collins: Yeah, the ones the front doesn’t fall off.>Interviewer: Well, if this wasn’t safe, why did it have passengers on it?>Senator Collins: I’m not saying it wasn’t safe, it’s just perhaps not quite as safe assome of the other ones.>Interviewer: Why?Senator Collins: Well, some of them are built so that the front doesn’t fall off at all.>Interviewer: Wasn’t this built so that the front wouldn’t fall off?>Senator Collins: Well, obviously not.
>>531415429I agree
>>531415479>Interviewer: How do you know?>Senator Collins: Well, because the front fell off and the plane collided with a fire engine. It’s a bit of a giveaway. I’d just like to make the point thatthat is not normal.>Interviewer: Well what sort of engineering standards are these airplanes built to?>Senator Collins: Oh, very rigorous aerospace engineering standards.>Interviewer: What sort of thing?>Senator Collins: Well, the front’s not supposed to fall off for a start.>Interviewer: And what other things?Senator Collins: Well, there are regulations governing the materials they can bemade of.>Interviewer: What materials?>Senator Collins: Well, cardboard’s out.>Interviewer: And?>Senator Collins: No cardboard derivatives.>Interviewer: Like paper?>Senator Collins: No paper. No string. No sellotape.>Interviewer: Rubber?>Senator Collins: No, rubber’s out. Umm, they’ve got to have a steering wheel.There’s a minimum crew requirement.>Interviewer: What’s the minimum crew?>Senator Collins: Oh, one I suppose.
>>531415413Orrrr maybe it could just be everyone is obsessed with cutting costs because they’re greedyNot everything is some satanic thing, greed explains it which is essentially satanic anyway
>>531411383>>air canada>jeet pilotsla guardianigger drivers
>>531415213Huge mistake.
>>531411235democrats caused because they didn't want voter ID's
>>531412283>It appears that the front fell off.oh that ausfailian civil servant joke about ships
>>531415538All these places do is cut corners, soon there won’t much left to cut.
>>531415538mammon worship is satanic, anon. It's putting profits before lives.
>>531415504>>531415504>Interviewer: How do you know?>Senator Collins: Well, because the front fell off and the plane collided with a fire engine. It’s a bit of a giveaway. I’d just like to make the point thatthat is not normal.>Interviewer: Well what sort of engineering standards are these airplanes built to?>Senator Collins: Oh, very rigorous aerospace engineering standards.>Interviewer: What sort of thing?>Senator Collins: Well, the front’s not supposed to fall off for a start.>Interviewer: And what other things?Senator Collins: Well, there are regulations governing the materials they can bemade of.>Interviewer: What materials?>Senator Collins: Well, cardboard’s out.>Interviewer: And?>Senator Collins: No cardboard derivatives.>Interviewer: Like paper?>Senator Collins: No paper. No string. No sellotape.>Interviewer: Rubber?>Senator Collins: No, rubber’s out. Umm, they’ve got to have a steering wheel.There’s a minimum crew requirement.>Interviewer: What’s the minimum crew?>Senator Collins: Oh, one I suppose.>Interviewer: So the allegations that they’re just designed to carry as many people aspossible no matter the consequences, I mean that’s ludicrous isn’t it?>Senator Collins: Absolutely ludicrous, these are very very strong aircraft.>Interviewer: So what happened in this case?>Senator Collins: Well, the front fell off in this case by all means, but it’s very unusual.>Interviewer: But Senator Collins, why did the front fall off?>Senator Collins: Well a fire truck hit it.>Interviewer: A fire truck hit it?>Senator Collins: A fire truck hit the plane.>Interviewer: Is that unusual?>Senator Collins: Oh yeah. At an airport? Chance in a million!>Interviewer: So what do you do to protect the environment in cases like this?>Senator Collins: Well the plane was towed outside the environment.>Interviewer: Into another environment?
>>531415575But hey don’t forget they have money for war instead
>>531415538or maybe you're a retard because being 40 trillion in debt while funding wars and sponsoring 100 millions browns and daycare for tens of millions of niggers sure doesnt sound like anyone gives a fuck about cost cutting, you fucking kike
>>531411235>how fastgoing to be in the news until Trump's next retarded move
>>531414913this situation sucks
>>531415611we agree
>>531415652so a few hours?
>>531412499You have clearance, Clarence.
>>531414356Have to spend it on scraping traffic for mentions of Epstein and how Altman raped his sister.
>>531415652>Trump's next retarded movesanction canadian airlines for littering on our airports.isssue invoice for clean upmake nigger truck driver medal of honor
>>531415650hey lay off the anger guy
>>531415126There was a jeet on board
>>531415779you were kicked out of 109 countries for a reason
>>531414306ok Shlomopost nose
>>531415269>Crazy that an accident happened where the pilots successfully landed the plane and the passengers survived but the pilots died.Seriously? Many such cases. The joke among pilots is that they're "first to the scene of the crash". Except when they're flying a 747 of course.
I was thinking about going the air traffic controller career route, but I don't think that many lives should be under my care.
>>531415849I am a Christian you spaz360 moonwalk from the keyboard player you need a break to relax
>>531416860For ~98k a year as well. Talk about stressful work.
>>531417125There's just too many opportunities for catastrophic fuck ups (fuck ups as in mistakes not goobers).
>>531411235The pilots are dead, so it must be pilot error.
>>531417804If a passenger was dead it would be passenger error, makes sense.
>>531417125It's really not a bad pay rate for a stable long-term job, EXCEPT that the FAA has been playing "no white men allowed!" for so many years that there aren't enough controllers. Which means mandatory overtime -- on a web forum I read, every time there's been an ATC thread, I've read controllers bitching about six or seven days a week of 12-hour shifts, often while the tower is understaffed and so they have to cover what should be multiple people's jobs. FAA administrators also just spam new people at the worst understaffed airports, resulting in rapid burnout as the new hires just aren't ready for that kind of environment.Anyone remember around two or three years ago when the FAA advertising for "disabled, mentally retarded, mentally ill, etc." people to apply for the ATC jobs? Because nothing spells "best qualified" like having a schizophrenic blind double-amputee Samoan lesbian handling ATC.FAA management needs to burn over shit like that. Fire the ones who have been obstructing the hiring of qualified white males, force large classes of new hires through, and staff low-traffic regional airports with the new hires until they are experienced enough to handle major airports like LaGuardia, O'Hare, Atlanta, etc.
>>531417848kekFucking pax stood up to get his luggage out of the bin, thus causing the crash.
>>531418133their california rates are said to be 150k a year for a few years experience, but the thing is that pay is shit for california. Imagine having to work at sfo or lax for lower middle class money. you want talent, you need to pay.
>>531414599I've worked in airfield maintenance for a while. This seems like a classic fuckup in risk management. They've probably let minor issues to pile up into bigger issues and finally those piled up into a major event, when the overworked control crew just couldn't magically counter all the shit.
>>531415387Well of course they will, it was a firetruck, dummy.
>>531418614sadly, here is it malice and blood sacrifice. our ATC agency even put out calls for hiring the mentally disabled, while continually turning down White male applicants. the failure of the system here is deliberately engineered by the kikes who run it. they fly private jets out of small airfields.
Funny how none of you mention the actual culprit: Musk. Remember how DOGE gutted FAA staff so Elon could grift a few billion in contracts to himself.
Which jeet was the cause?
>>531415652Canadian surface to surface missile successfully intercepted by brave ground based interceptor operator
>>531411235It's not. It'll fade into the background cause of the 24 hour news cycle, but it won't have anything to do with ATC culpability.
>>531412283Did this happen inside the environment?
>>531414802You embarrassed yourself. No jeet would deny being a jeet, they're too delusionally proud of their shitskin lol
>>531415479>>531415504
>>531419046>Funny how none of you mention the actual culprit: Musk. Remember how DOGE gutted FAA staffIt's difficult to say whether you are retarded or just badly misinformed by whatever "news sources" you follow. Musk didn't "gut" the ATC staff, his DOGE group fired a few mid-level bureaucrats on a "review committee" who were useless and who were most likely part of the DEI efforts that had blocked the hiring of qualified white male candidates.
>>531414866>ensuring politicians give FAA funding for sufficient staffing is everyone's responsibility.Yeah, let's collectivize the politicians' guilt and hold everyone else personally responsible,
>>531411235>The Canadian Erection
>>531412283It also looks like they didnt complete landing all the way down.
It was the Jews!Sources said the plane was carrying a group of Orthodox Jews from the New York area.-New York Posthttps://nypost.com/2026/03/23/us-news/air-canada-flight-firetruck-collide-at-laguardia-reports/
>>531420240it was a totally different environment
the truck driver was hispanic
>>531415652Quintessential TDS.>accident at airport>bring up Trump out of nowhere
>>531415429Nothing changes until we performatively remove the managerial financial class until they beg for mercy.I bet the first thing that crossed his boomer manager's mind was 'phew you can't say this is my fault hehe'. There should be no thoughts crossing such a mind.
>>531420616Kek this. School teacher mindset
Fucking pajeets ruin everything.
>>531411235These cost cuts were the worst decision for US public aviation they could have made. The amount of avoidable deaths and accidents there has been in the past years is slowly getting to pajeet levels of flight control. And thats not because of shitty technology or training, its because those poor dogs are understaffed and overworked. Traveling by plane in the US has become a wager and goddamn, it shouldn't be.
>>531422743>a whole plane of kikesImagine the amount of lawsuits and insurance claims
>>531414866>competancy>DEIpick one>ensure enough public fundsNoNo more public funding so that under performing people get money to under perform.This includes all federal employees. Fuck all of you. You are not necessary.You know you are not necessary.You manipulate the public to believe you are, knowing full well that but for the govt you would be wasting away under a bridge.
>>531423266Anon you don't understand. If boomers admit human cognition is limited they have to admit they weren't superheroes when they were younger and that they may have mental decline.Boomers' egos are worth a few million lives across every industry and in wars. Have a heart. Stop killing grandpa.
>>531423266>cost cutsThat a weird way of saying "they hired based on diversity over ability" Air traffic can come to a complete stand still forever, and I wont care so long as useless people get no more public funding. Including you shill.
>>531423065many such cases
I was beginning to thing the jews forgot to false flag an airport incident.
>>531412499We GAAN!!!!
>>531423022>the truck driver was hispanicand illegal
Plane got circumcised.Charter plane of Orthodox JewsKek, how is the universe so based.
>>531424201tipping culture gone wild
>>531412499Fuck it, I'm GOING
>>531411235>>531411235>>531411235https://xcancel.com/thenewarea51/status/2035945859758641312SEWER SMELL ON THE PLANE (From/to Canada? probably... PAJEETS!!!!!!!!!!!)HOMOSEXUALSOUNDINGPILOT!!!!!!!!!!!NIGGERAIRTRAFFICCONTROLLER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!INEVITABLE,IMPENDINGCOMPLETEDISASTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!It cannot be overstated how fucking demonic, evil, and just downright dangerous pajeets, niggers and shitskins in general are!!!!!!
>>531411235Leafs, poojeets, faggots and niggers involved.WHAT A SURPRISE!
>>531413062These things are not the same species as us, and the world needs to stop pretending otherwise.
>>531411235>im literally flying on this plane in a month or twoDo you think they will be able to get it in working condition soon bros?
>>531426574Go back to india, shitskin.
>>531411235>air travel "optimized" and made "efficienct" such that commoner prole retards can afford to fly>airlines cut costs on leg room, maintenance, in-flight amenities, etc. to hit a price point>air traffic control wageslaved to death juggling 10x more traffic than what was normal 50 years ago>wtf why are there more accidents?>wtf why is flying like being tortured in hell?really makes you think.
>>531426574ive never taken an air canada flight that didn't involve several hours of delays. expect delays is all im saying
All the NYC ATC are cunts.
>>531421396>The Canadian ErectionSurprise circumcision
The plane barfed.
>>531427099probably had TDS. most things coming out of canada do.
I'll be waiting on the mentour pilot or green dot aviation vid
>>531411235>Plane flies into the US>Gets circumcised upon landingJews have some explaining to do
>>531411235>>531414913Fuck me thats brutal.
>>531414950You sound white to me, man. We're all touchy because jeets can be anywhere, it's a bad situation. I accidentally call my own shadow "streetshitter" sometimes when I see it out of the corner of my eye.
>>531415780That's horrible.
>>531411235Why do New Yorkers all talk like low IQ retards? The FAA shouldn’t allow people with retarded accents to work as air traffic controllers.
>>531415780he blocked the toilet. you can see the results
>>531411235This is why we need AI to do these retarded jobs
>>531411235It's mutts fault guaranteed it gets buried fucking incompetent twats
>>531412283It was towed outside the environment. No no no not in the environment it was towed beyond the environment
>>531411235Shouldn't ground traffic trying to cross be talking on the ground frequency to LGA ground?
>>531429094they should be looking for the big fucking bright white lights coming towards them out of the sky. visual driving rules ffs
>>531429233True, and the aircraft would be out towards the left on the driver's side.
>>531430172oh it was like that was it? unbelievable.
>>531415270>open to workNot anymore!
>>531411235You can't trust people do anything. Sooner or later, drugs, alcohol, lack of responsibility, incompetence, malice, or human error will become a factor and this is the result.
>>531429094The truck was, in fact, talking to LGA ground.The controller was being forced to do both ground and air because of understaffing.The controller screwed up and told the truck to cross the runway.The truck driver failed to visually clear before crossing.In fairness to the truck driver, apparently in that particular truck the driver sits in the middle of the vehicle and has poor sight lines to both sides.In fairness to the controller, this chronic understaffing is the fault of the FAA's refusal to hire enough staff (especially if the applicant is a white male).We are going to see more such avoidable crashes unless the FAA administrators can be criminally prosecuted and justifiably executed for their refusal to hire qualified applicants.
>>531432292>the driver sits in the middle of the vehicle and has poor sight lines to both sides.its one terrible idea after another with this shit isn't it?
>>531419046literally no ATC staff were cut. it's funny how you thought this was reddit
>>531414866>avoiding crqshing and maintaining situational awareness is pilot/fo's responsibility.retard. similar, have you ever heard of laws of tonnage? typically unmotorized boats have right of way over motorized. but if you turn your sailboat into the path of a cargo ship you no longer have right off way because of the size of the ship. they can't just "stop" it takes like a mile to come to a stop, because they are fucking huge. imagine a landing commercial jet being expected to yield right of way to a random truck driving across a runway.
>>531414913Thinking about how fragile these fucking things are while you're 20k feet up going 500mph does things to my brain
>>531427099looks like the jet plane version of that russian sailor or whatever he was that tried to unscrew a detonator cap with his teeth LOL
>>531429233>>531430172wrong, they were coming from the fire station across Daircraft them hit them from rear-ish and to the right, passenger side. plus there were multiple vehicles. fire truck was with 'company'
>>531411235Where the fire fighters Jeets or something how did they miss a big ass plane? >NO SAARS ATC SAID ITS OK SO I HAVE RIGHT OF WAY THANK YOU RAPE YOU LATER
>>531432755>>531432614No one knows what you’re talking about, stay in your containment general, NAFOnigger.
>>531414367this, it seems they were using one controller for several jobs. the airport i worked at had several frequencies operating. there is the ground control frequency, and that controller concentrates on moving stuff around the taxiways to the runways and back etc. the departure frequency has another controller, and the actual air traffic is controlled by a third. when it was really slow, like at night, i think they did with less people on.
