Why don’t they use the bunker busta again if it worked the first time?
Because you have to know exactly where the enemy bunkers are.
How many do you have?They have a lot of mountains to bomb.
>>531436573We only had like 12 in stock, and trump dumped like 8 of them into Fordow. Also Trump obviously lied about the sites being taken out, considering we're back a few months later trying to take the same sites out *again*. It makes sense when you look at the math - these sites are hardened bunkers designed to survive atom bombs and our bunker busters were only rated to penetrate half the estimated depth of Fordow.
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>>531436573They need to find where they are first and how deep, otherwise you're just waiting ammo.
Pretty sure they build deeper than 200ft and not even nukes can do shit against deep bunkers in granite mountains. It's why norad/Cheyenne mountain are where they are
>>531439569Would Saddam be safe in his bunker under the bunker?
>>531439710Hell, kiev metro stations are up to 1km deep under granite and would survive a direct nuke
>>531439673>and how deeppretending they're less than 200 feet of dirt or 8 feet of concrete underground is just retarded.Bunker busters are a meme. They're built for WW2 coastal-bunkers & for killing someone who lives on the first floor of an apartment building. That's it.
Weird question, but aren't the Iranian bases under literal mountains?I can see how a bomb would penetrate a concrete slab. But hundreds of feet of solid stone? That sounds impossible to me.
>>531439869Yes. All they've ever bombed is entrance tunnels.It's retarded PR-bullshit, like most of what the US does. Their war is made for Twitter & tv, not for battlefield victories.See also McNamara fallacy.
>>531436573They didn't work.>>531436832I think they've got about 20 left. They only made like 50 in the first place.
>>531439967It's funny to me.When you see German military tech, it's all like: "We exploit the curvature of the earth to have our missiles fly undetectably under the radar, so the enemy only has 10 seconds of reaction time. This is based on science and engineering."And then you watch US stuff, and they are like: "Our weapons are SUPER BIG!"
>>531439967Forgot pic
>>531436573Impact strength of Iranian concrete is too good.
>>531440167Even if it did work, can't modern air defenses just shoot them out of the sky while they are dropping?
The GBU-57A only penetrates 18 meters of concrete.
>>531440300>can't modern air defenses just shoot them out of the sky while they are dropping?perhaps? Don't know. They're dropped from B2 stealth bombers flying basically through space for deeper targets (these fly literally around the world to do this) and from B52's closer to the coast.The coast probably doesn't that much AD anymore, and deeper in the bomb itself might just be too small to even find & react to in time. It's a dumb bomb, so the only IR you'll see is from friction with the air it's passing through.
>>531441201I know that at least modern German air defense systems can detect and destroy incoming artillery shells. So it is probably possible in theory.
>>531436573Proofs it ever worked
>>531436573>200ft of concrete rock and soiltoo bad there is 500 feet of granite and limestone
That's the daily mail, no? why would you ever take them (or any other newspaper, really) seriously?>>531440452It's not just the problem of concrete. No all soil is the same. On relatively moist, American soil maybe, but on dry sandy rocky soil? I'm not buying it.
>>531436573You need to know where it is. Its also expensive and we dont have that many of them. We dont know how many but its small scale like 20 get made at a time. The US used 14 of them against Iran recently and ordered replenishment. So likely we dont have more then a dozen or so currently? Order sizes in the past have been on the order of 20.Also in case you missed all the news about patriot missle defense. Alot of stuff is not as perfect as we like to project. The more we send those out the more likely a fuckup is to happen and one of them crashes diminishing the deterrent power it offers. Think of all the planes that have crashed on their own no where near Iran.Basically those are specialized and only good for specific target removal behind enemy lines missions.
Iran's best bunkers are so far underground you couldn't get to them even with thermonuclear warheads. You can't displace trillions of tons of the hardest rocks known to man.
>>531436573It never worked, it's exactly as /pol/ said at the time.They only talked Trump into doing it because they were hoping it would escalate into the war you're getting now.
>>531436573Where are the bunkers smooth brain?Where are the stockpiles smooth brain?Where is the enemy smooth brain?
>>531436573Doesn't do that against UHPC, 20ft max. Blast pulverisation and crack propagation also drastically reduced. Iran is one of the leading nations in developing UHPC, has been for 20+ years. Shitloads of Iranian scientist released peer reviewed research papers.
>>5314365731. because we only had 122. they did "work" the first time, but Trump had called them and told them to move the material before the bombing. niggers don't remember this.3. Iran offered us all of their enriched material during the latest round of negotiations, two days before Israel and the US attacked them. the jews do not care about the nukes or the enriched material. they want Iran to be a failed state. and Trump has to follow their orders, because he's a retarded kike slave probably with tapes of him raping 13 year olds.
>>531436573It's hard to tell if they actually work. They basically turn earth into molten lava so anybody crazy enough to check out the damage basically says:>Yep, it's lava here. Just glowing hot stuff. Real messy.
>>531436573The Iranians got help building deep underground military bases from the Best Koreans. Their missile & drone factory-bases are too deep for Yankee bombs.
>>531436573Iran debut they b2 stealth drone this morning, you can find it on presstv shaheed 171.secret weapons lads.
>>531442715the "ultra high strength" concrete and granite bullshit doesn't matter, we sent them down the ventilation shafts. that was their one fatal flaw.none of it matters because Trumpenstein wasted a majority of our bunker busters while directing the Iranians to move the enriched material. we're led by mentally retarded cryptokike child rapists.
>>531436573It never worked and they admitted it right away when they said they attacked the site at Isfahan with Tomahawks because, and I shit you not, it was "too deep". Too deep for 27000 pound megabomb but not to deep for 700 pound Tomahawk warhead?
Those deep bunkers must be super comfy. I'm thinking those deep levels from Penumbra and SCPSL.
>>531439710There are such things as bunker buster nukes anon.
>>531443162Retard. The ventilation shafts take several turns and terminate in a blast diverting and containment cavity. Shut your retard kikemerican mouth, faggot. You know less than nothing.
>>531439315t. Hasn't seen Top Gun: Maverick yet
I don't believe that these bombs are anywhere as effective as mutts claimI'm just not going to take their word for it, you know
>>531440167>max pen: only 25 feet of re-enforced concrete
>>531443950There's no jet fuel in it, so it can't melt through rebar.
>>531443180Why are rusfaggots so fucking stupid? The other sites were above ground, cabbage nigger.
>>531443813We know they got down there because of the blowout, retarded euroqueer.
>>531444422>We know they got down there because of the blowoutLollmao even.Did you actually look at it?
>>531439725As long as there is still electricity for the fan
>>531444422Cope harder kike.
>>531439315>obviously liedTrump didn’t have to lie. Part of dropping these bombs is the shatter the access to the complexes. We may have devastated their nuclear sites just by burying them under rubble. The Iranians were trying to dig them out when Trump bombed them again.
>>531443916Who cares what you think? You have no knowledge.
>>531445968And Gabbard's assessment is that they know they're being watched from sattelite and have made no attempts to dig back in.So either they didn't get all the tunnels, or the Iranians have chosen to leave it where it is.
>>531436573the Iranians have dug things under the ground that no bombs can reach (after watching for decades how the US does war)
they literally digged a hole and we don't know where it is
>>531436573it only works when you know where the bunker is actually located, which doesn't have to be right beneath the entrance.it can be anywhere in the surrounding area. worst case, all you did was collapse the tunnel to it, but there's no guarantee that it was the only one.Iran spent decades preparing for this
>>531446303Even better: You need to know it's precise depth, because it's a simple delayed fuse.
>>531436573>penetrating 200ft>through concrete yeah, sure Steve, no refunds btw
>>531446205So? Of many possibilities you left unsaid is that Gabbard's assessment may be before others or that she was deemed to be incorrect. Really is irrelevant. They bombed again, which leads one to believe that they still feel the munition could achieve its purpose.
>>531446207The U.S. sealed the caves in Afghanistan.
>>531446303No guarantee that it is not, or that the U.S. doesn’t know. We have human spies too.
>>531446582>may be before others or that she was deemed to be incorrect.She's literally the director of national intelligence. Her assessment IS what the intelligence agencies are all saying.>They bombed again, which leads one to believe that they still feel the munition could achieve its purpose.It's purpose being that they can now claim to have bombed it. It's a statistic, and a headline.Do you know what the McNamara fallacy is, anon?
>>531446715Yeah, I have no doubt that you know about some of them. But Iran is big, and the Iranian regime seems to be pretty schizo. So do you have any confidence that you can disable all their bunkers, fortifications, launch tubes and so on without financially ruining yourself in the process?This attack was very short sighted imo, probably cooked up while everyone was still high on their success in Venezuela.
They don't work. They only work against outdated bunkers that aren't too deep in the earth. Anything contemporary constructed should be resistant to them.
>>531440300They intentionally fly those missions on cloudy days at night.
>>531436573The phrase "bunker buster" is the hallmark of armchair retards whose entire understanding of war comes from War Thunder and Call of Duty. There's a containment board for that. It's called /k/
>>531439569The bombs we used in Iraq were not these ones, they were special ones made out of a barrel for a howitzer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tulb9VutyCc
>>531436573>200ft through rock, concrete and soilwhy not 6 million feet of concrete? All they do is knock down a few empty buildings while the jews bomb schools and hospitals.
>>531436573Iran will definitely get nukes now.I wonder what would happen if Iran actually nuked Tel Aviv.Would kikes go nuts and just start nuking the entire middle East?
>>531446904She stated what she knew then anon, assessments change… and you cannot say otherwise. So your argument is that Trump flew an incredibly difficult mission around the world, with a high probability of failure but no chance of success, and decided to repeat it because he wanted to create an appearance; sounds like there is a new fallacy to explain.
>>531447033We will see what you know, reading the internet and what the U.S. and Israeli intelligence knows.
>>531436573They only work when dropped in waves. The first wave generates a localized earthquake which causes temporary soil liquefaction, allowing subsequent waves to cut through the soil and penetrate deeper and deeper underground. Might consider spinning the tip of the bomb like a drill as well
>>531448233>assessments changeshe just testified under oath that they didn't, anon.You are retarded.
>>531448323Kek, you're the same as troons trying to push their ideology by pointing towards some crooked doctor>You can never use your own brain because someone with a title already said what you are supposed to think, so just accept that!
>>531439710Oreshnik proves that there are ways to soften buried targets with kinetic strikes before the bombs arrive. and the contents of NORAD might survive but they would basically be Vault-tec retards living the rest of their days in a hole. Delivery systems are accurate enough to ensure that the entrance will be crushed [permanently]
>>531449559>Delivery systems are accurate enough to ensure that the entrance will be crushed [permanently]yes, because your doctrine is built around securing the base's entrance with tanks & AD.Theirs is built around having entrances you simply can't find.
