if only there was a way to help him drown faster

Stop spamming the board.

>>531448742
I still think it's pretty funny lol fuck trump

>>531448742
you lost tranny

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>stop making daddy look like an idiot

>>531448798
you lost, migger

>>531448742
Your TDS shilling has zero effect.
You sway no-one with these bots. You're just wasting your stupid energy pajeet.

TKD
TPD
TND

>>531448992
If simply posting Trump's own words triggers you this much, maybe you should consider the person posting them isn't the problem.

>trump wants to talk
>oppo doesn't
>trump makes a big threat
>oppo talks
>trump reprieves threat
>shills say trump chickened out
He makes a threat and then doesn't follow through when he gets what he wants. This is as opposed to Obama who draws red lines and then gifts his enemies pallets of cash as a reward for crossing them.
>iran denies the talks
They have to constantly lie to their people about being stand alone tough guys. You want to assume trump is lying and assume iran is telling the truth that's youre problem.

>>531448916
This
And this>>531448992
>>531448798

>>531448742
So standing down so that the USA and Israel can re-assess their strategy for the next time they backstab Iran during the next peace negotiations.
Damn, I was really hoping Iran would send humanity back into the stone-age.

>>531448742
Go fuck yourself disgusting amerimutt. Trump is based, you are an embarrassment.

>>531448742
my sides

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>>531449065
It's not like we've seen him do this 50,000 times in the last year alone
It's not like he has an entire book called "The Art Of How I Always Do This" which has been on sale for longer than most of us have been alive

>>531449065
>want to assume trump is lying
All he does is lie about everything you gorillanigger.

>>531449064
No one is triggered.
Trump made a threat, got his way, and then didn't carry out the threat. That's very normal stuff.
What's annoying is the reality denial you shills engage in. Holding up victories and just insisting theyre losses.
Respond to arguments with insults
Respond to insults with "see they cant argue"
And all for no reason too. Trumo can't run again. For what purpose do you feel this need to undermine his popularity? I dont evem beleive most of you are being paid. Just obsessed.

>>531449065
>his is as opposed to Obama who draws red lines and then gifts his enemies pallets of cash as a reward for crossing them.
did you miss the part where trump lifted sanctions on iranian oil? He's literally paying the iranians to keep oil blocked. Not only that, but he lifted it on russia as well, so he's supplying the russians with more money to give to Iran

>>531448742
*gun to your head*
>Lets make a deal!

>>531449065
But Trump does always lie and Iran usually tells the truth, and the pool is still closed you coping migger!

>>531449267
So the strait is open?

>>531449173
>the book
Absolutely, and he explained a lot of this in the 2016 campaign. He's not going to stop and whisper into the mic
>I'm hullshi55ing to get my way
Because obviously that's a failed strategy.
>>531449174
Tell me about the highly honest regime of Iran that constantly tells the truth.

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>>531449161
>Go fuck yourself disgusting amerimutt. Trump is based, you are an embarrassment.

>>531449267
But he didn't get his way

>>531449267
>got his way
Stop posting. Your cope is so sad.

>>531449065
Trump did this lie with China, who didn't speak to him either. TACO'd and cucked completely, gave them concessions they didn't want, they shipped back all the Nvidia chips.
The best case scenario is that he accepts something worse than the Obama deal after "negotiating" and they decide on balance to accept it.
>Boy, those Iranians sure strike a hard deal
Its so tiresome watching him do this.

>>531448742
>drowns
In pussy

>>531448742
whats your point OP?

>>531449267
>got his way
Strait status?

old man trump is just a cuck
hormussy status: closed

>>531449065
A few hours ago iran shot more missiles at israel so hostilities aren't ceased. Is the strait open?

>>531448742
You lost, tranny

>>531449289
Iran has adopted the
>"Do it faggot"
Strategy

>>531449529
I thought iran's supply of missiles was 90% exhausted btw

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>>531449065
You are retarded. kys.

>>531449065
more like
>Blumpf makes a threat without thinking it through
>cucks out

>>531449287
>hes literally paying
No. Giving them a vacuum sealed pallet of federal reserve notes was "literally oaying them"
This is allowing them to make money in a joint venture. This is deal making. This is what trumo has been saying he does for going on 50 fucking years.
Trumo.makes deals while the media tries to undermine his strategies by freaking out and/or guffawing at everything he does.
As opposed to how the media always had joe, and Barry, and to a large extent even bush's back in situations like this.

>>531449572
not only that, but their nuclear capabilities were COMPLETELY OBLITERATED last summer and anyone saying otherwise is FAKE NEWS

>>531449356
>and the pool is still closed
If that were true, WTI would be $200, not $88. It just isn't. Oil peaked more than two weeks ago. The whole world didn't suddenly shut down their use of petroleum, so you can clearly see that it's flowing at just about normal rates
We're now clearly into the North Korea situation where a deal's being made that lets both sides look strong and claim victory

>>531449356
Trump tells you he's lying and iran postures and hangs flags mostly to look good to their own people.
>>531449385
Yeah it is. Ships are passing through.

>>531449592
>Giving them a vacuum sealed pallet of federal reserve notes was "literally oaying them"
Bizarre MAGA conspiracy theory. Unfreezing some of their assets is not "literally paying them" even if there were pallets of federal reserve notes, which there weren't. And if you don't like oil exporters having dollars you know what to do.

>>531449267
Some people play sports. They sit on their chairs basing Trump with a soda and bag of cheetos next to them.

>>531449482
That we're crossing a threshold where it isn't even funny to laugh at Trump fucking up and TACOing out anymore. It's just becoming genuinely sad. He's completely in over his head and has no idea what to do. He's surrounded by yes men who have no actual usable guidance to offer him. And he's still trying so hard to project an air of strength and competence despite the whole world seeing him for the overwhelmed, exhausted old man he is.

>>531449545
YWNBAW is shorter albeit less inclusive. That's like a doubleplus racism.
Try that next.

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>>531449592
>Trumo.makes deals while the media tries to undermine his strategies
what deals has he made?

>>531448742
HIS WRITING STYLE REMINDS ME OF THE BLOG OF SOME RANDOM SCHIZOPHRENIC HEROIN ADDICT I READ 15 YEARS AGO.

>>531449669
Not American or Israeli ships. The ships passing are trading in Yuen not dollars.

>>531449409
>>531449418
>>531449433
>he didn't get his way...I assume as an intelligence outsider
He says they're talking
Iran says they're not talking
Now we're hearing that they used Claude to talk to them.
That's 2 votes for "they're talking". That's what trumo wanted and what he got. Trump always "chickens out" because he always gets what he threatened for. Which is always less than what he actually says he wants.

>>531449551
*shoots one of his fingers off*
>Time for a deal!

>>531449592
>sanction Iran
>bomb Iran
>threaten to invade their oil distribution hub to hurt their economy
>lift the sanctions while still at war so they can flog billions of dollars of oil
Hahahaha!

>>531449529
>few hours ago iran shot more missiles at israel
Explain why this should make me unhappy.

>>531449645
Your mind is in a North Korea situation that's for sure

>>531448742
At least there seems to be an attempt at peace. Let's see if Israel doesn't fuck this up for a 600 trillionth time.

>>531449839
because blumpf is using it to justify sending more of our tax dollars to Israel and prolonging the war, you fucking idiot. Do you even know who we're allied with?

>>531449839
Doesn't matter if it does, that's obviously not what Trump wants and it doesn't appear to be victory

>>531449808
>but my marvel book said
You seriously need to kill yourself.

>>531449766
>there seems to be an attempt at peace >>531449766

>>531449820
new finger is elected and assumes function.
>try again?
Only 90 million more to go.

>>531448742
You lost. He won. Simple as.

>>531449397
>Absolutely, and he explained a lot of this in the 2016 campaign. He's not going to stop and whisper into the mic
He's been doing it like once a week this past year and somehow these retards don't get it. Oil just dropped 10% in a single day. The peace deal has to be down to the niggly details
It's funny because the Art of the Deal strategy works especially well with honor/face cultures like Asia and the Middle East. The US spent decades talking down to North Korea, basically demanding they give DC 100% of what it wanted as a precondition for even deigning to talk to them, and somehow nothing got done and Pyongyang got nukes.
Trump threatened all out nuclear war, and Kim threatened back, MAKING THEM LOOK LIKE EQUALS, and they got a deal done in a few weeks.
I have bet a large sum of money that the same thing happened here. Now Iran gets to say "The Great Satan threw everything they had at us and had to back down, so now that they see we can't be defeated and we own the most important waterway in the world, in the interest of sparing a global financial collapse we will agree to a ceasefire etc etc"

>>531448742
>sad
The orange boomer dementia case brought it on himself. No pity

>>531449267
>got his way
He's giving Iran concession after concession

>>531449645
Have you missed that the west are using their oil reserves to keep the prices low?

>>531450011
>honor cultures
>like it when you kill their parents
kys.

>>531448742
>ravings of a madman
Sad, indeed.

>>531448742
It's another trick. They're going to go all in on an attack tonight. Some countries like Bulgaria have just put out their highest level of travel advisory and evacuation flights have picked up.

>>531449669
Are they posturing about shutting down all US and US allied traffic through the strait?

>>531450045
> queer posting
Niggers are giving your asshole cock after cock.

>>531448742
God Bless Trump

MAGA

>>531449065
>They have to constantly lie to their people
holy kek the irony

>>531450210
dont you mean G*d, moishe?

>trump cucked out
it's a shame, now boots on ground don't look like it will happen

>>531450011
>Oil just dropped 10% in a single day.
Because Trump lied through his arse
> The peace deal has to be down to the niggly details
Iran has been consistent - withdraw from the middle east, agree to never attack again, pay reparations. There's no deal. It's "meet the demands or suck my nuts"

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>>531448742
WITCH PLEASE, at least post the real tweet

>>531449910
>n-no u :(
1. World demand for oil is the same
2. Oil's down 10% today, at $88, with its peak around $118, more than two weeks ago

Try to think like a grown-up. 30% of the world's oil passes through the Strait of Hormuz. If it was all bottled up, every consumer of oil in the world would be bidding up the remaining 70% because you can't not have oil if you're in any industry that requires it, which thanks to diesel trucks and trains is basically all of them to at least some degree. The threat of 30% of the world's oil getting choked off sent oil to $116.

Oil is flowing normally with about a 20% risk premium because of an ongoing conflict that makes shipping through the war zone much more risky (and thus expensive to insure). If there were any shortage, WTI would be at the very least north of $120

>>531448793
Don't worry, he'll do that himself.

Which one of you faggots corrected the "I AM PLEASE" and the "WITCH"?

>>531449804
Oic
So you already knew the strait was open and were intentionally asking a shitty question as rhetoric.

The fact that miggers will still sit here and try to le art of the deal a blatant cuckout to save the market rather than admit Trump is in over his head is proof the jews are right when they call goys cattle

>>531450344
Omg hahahaha wow.

>>531448742
and Iran denies any talks are ongoing at all…

lol just a matter of playing the stock market now.

>>531448742
Jerusalem will be destroyed for all of its sins as has been prophesied to happen for all of (((their))) sins. The United States cannot do anything, whether or not Trump actually wanted to as Gods wrath must descend upon the Great City.

For all who have eyes to see and ears to hear, leave Israel immediately.

>>531450296
>Because Trump lied through his arse

You have a child's idea of how the world works. Oil is a multi-trillion-dollar global market that literally everything depends on. Fifty billion dollar oil contracts are not being negotiated between trillion dollar economies based on Trump tweets. Trump tweets cannot make tens of millions of barrels of oil that are stuck in the Gulf magically appear at European ports. They're arriving, which means the Strait is open no matter how much retards like you cope on Mongolian basketweaving forums

>>531450420
We're just goyim, not megalomaniacal spawns of hell.

>>531448742
Sad

>>531450302
>2. Oil's down 10% today, at $88, with its peak around $118, more than two weeks ago
>Oil is flowing normally with about a 20% risk premium
physical crude is over $155 today in asia.
Try again.

>>531450302
25% of the world's oil passes through the strait
The strait is not fully closed. Shipments have are going to China, India, Japan, Pakistan
Hundreds of millions of barrels of strategic reserves have been released
Oil price was still nearly double what it was before the war when Trump made his bullshit announcement earlier

>>531450302
Oil is low because the US is trying every desperate trick in the book to manipulate prices. The fact that miggers will simultaneously tell you Hormuz is open, has always been open, and Iran cant do anything, and that also we need to bomb Irans power plants to to open Hormuz like Trump says and NATO is useless for not helping up open Hormuz just shows the extent of doublethink these cattle manage to hold. Which is funny because they spent years claiming it was liberals who practiced thst.

>>531449941
>that's obviously not what Trump wants
Ok. Idc about this and I also don't take it for granted
>and it doesn't appear to be victory
It does to me. I voted for this.
The only people who are oh-sp worried about the reputations of their favorite political celebrities reflecting baddly on them are leftists. It's a defining characteristic. No matter what happens you will jeer at trump and call me retarded. I don't care. Looking cool to random drug addicted pedophiles on 4chan or smooth brained normies isn't important. But it does signal to me your true value system, thinking this is a popularity contest.

>>531450182
You aren't even trying to engage in reason, you're just declaring your failures a victory and hoping the violence ends.

>>531450555
so if zion don tweets don’t magically change things and the strait is open and there are no issues…

then why aren’t tankers passing through? why did we just see a gargantuan increase in the price of oil?

just like zion don you can’t come up with a reason.

>>531448798
Cry harder kike lover.

>>531450650
>I voted for this.
you voted for higher gas prices, boots on the ground and massive losses in the stock market?

>>531450296
>Oil just dropped 10% in a single day.
>Because Trump lied through his arse
Wow holy shit. You're so close to figuring it out. If only I cared even a little bit about you understanding, i could help you with that last hurdle.

>>531448992
Glownigger detected.

>>531450182
least homosexual miga nigger

>>531450650
Iran is still capable of firing missiles, the regime hasn't fallen, the strait is still closed. Which of Trump's goals have been achieved

>>531450775
>you voted for higher gas prices,
Partially
> boots on the ground
Aint any
>and massive losses in the stock market?
Absolutely

TACO mondays

>>531450555
>the guy prosecuting a war publicly walked back and ultimatum because his belligerent said they'd retaliate by destroying shit loads of oil infrastructure in the gulf.
>This WON'T have an effect on markets because it's complicated and I am very clever
You are a delusional, coping migger

>>531450885
Good. I hope they keep firing missiles at everyone they've already been threatening especially israel.

Trumpstein kike faggots are mentally ill niggers

>>531448742
Someone told him what will happen to his wallet if oil stops being traded in USD.

>>531450885
His aim was a worse version of the Obama deal apparently.

>>531450948
Um ok

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>>531450901
>> boots on the ground
>Aint any
ah, an idiot.

>>531450051
>Have you missed that the west are using their oil reserves to keep the prices low?
>Third Worlder thinks he knows how the real world works

"using their oil reserves" lmao
Do you think that Trump just signs an order and instantly 10 million barrels of oil transport themselves out of salt caves, flow through the air to ports to empty tankers just waiting there in case somebody wants to put some oil in them

>>531450574
>physical crude is over $155 today in asia.
I mean, that's not true but ok - it's more like $130, which again is down about 20% from its peak, two weeks ago. Premiums to Dubai went absolutely nuts in March and have been dropping like a stone since.

>>531448742
hey OP traitor, fuck off.... or better yet KYS

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>>531448742

>>531451034
>it's more like $130, which again is down about 20% from its peak, two weeks ago
Dubai is at $134 right now.
Murban is at $137
Indian basket is at $149

>>531451037
>LEAVE THE BILLIONARE ALONE CHUD!

>>531448916
You retards don't seem to understand. The biggest potential for "losing" always comes after your guy gets into office, because then they inevitably prove that they're just the same corporations/israel-first faggots that every politician ever is.

It's like professional wrestling. It's all scripted bullshit to keep retards appeased. Every wrestler talks like their shit don't stink and they've never been beaten. But they all take the fall when their opponent is the zionist elite who writes their paychecks.

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>BOMB ME HARDER DADDY TRUMP
>I WANT MORE HOT LOADS IN MY BUNKER
>BUST MY BLAST DOORS RIGHT OFF

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>I WILL BOMB IRAN IF THEY DONT BACK DOWN
>NEVER MIND I DEFINITELY TALKED TO THEM!! WE HAD GREAT TALKS!!
>*He infact never talked with anybody from Iran*
Trump keeps giving excuses for pussying out. Is the USA really that fucking weak now?

>>531448742
even if he is lying, he did prevent a red monday market

>>531451037
Get a real job, glownigger faggot or jeet shill.

>>531451256
Impossible. Trump is negotiating a gigadeal to open the strait, which is already open anyway.

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>>531451325
he's not lying, he didnt talk to Iran. Why jared kushner was the one doing it I have no idea, but it's antisemetic to ask such questions

>>531448742
>wait until the last minute to announce the score
Yeah no way that could backfire on him. Fucking retard.

>>531450640
>Hundreds of millions of barrels of strategic reserves have been released
>>531450641
>Oil is low because the US is trying every desperate trick
See, this sounds good to children like you, who don't understand how anything works, but to grownups it's hilarious
Actually, Trump signing an EO to release from the SPR does not cause oil to appear on the global market. It depresses FUTURES prices, because it will take months to get that oil out of the salt mines in which it's stored to market, so oil futures traders factor that into their orders. You can't burn oil that's under Bryan Mound TX.
If the pool were closed, 25% of the world's oil would be trapped in the Persian Gulf, and every refinery in the world would be bidding up the remaining 75%. Like I said, just the threat of that happening sent WTI to $116 as everyone bid up whatever physical crude was available at the moment. Now it's $86.80 and still dropping.
The world didn't halve their requirements for crude oil. Consumption is the same. The supply isn't constrained, meaning the pool isn't closed.

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>BUT DADDY TRUMP I WANTED YOU TO BLOW MY COCK OFF WITH A JDAM

>>531450720
>then why aren’t tankers passing through?
They are
>why did we just see a gargantuan increase in the price of oil?
We didn't, oil peaked more than two weeks ago. It's down 10% today.

>>531450918
>I can't do math
>why doesn't anyone take me seriously :(

>>531449766
All trump 'deals' are the same.
>Take a deal someone else made and cancel it
>Do a little market manipulation and shit posting
>Get the exact same deal that already existed
>Claim it was your deal all along
Miggers fall for it every time

>>531448742
The S&P is still holding onto its gains which leads me to believe Trump is telling the truth. The Iranians most likely came to Trump begging and pleading. It appears the IRGC is the main problem. It’s sort of like the Lebanon and hezbollah situation. Anyways I’m glad Trump has the issue sorted out. Everything is calm.

>>531451559
>>Get the exact same deal that already existed
what deal? Iran hasnt agreed to anything

>>531448742
it was all real in his mind. His yes men, afraid of getting fired, all nodded along,

>>531451559
>Create problem
>pretend to fix problem you just created
>masturbate about how good you are for fixing the problem
After a decade in the job, he's fully a politician now.

So now if there's no deal by Friday, he's going to bomb the whatever.

Except he won't. He'll just make some more claims with his mouth.

Meanwhile, the strait will remain closed. Trump should try flapping his lips at it to see if that will get it open.

>>531451256
>>531451339
>retards
All down -10% from their peak
If the pool were closed, that number would be over $300 and going up, because you wouldn't be able to get the stuff out. What you've got there, as I said in like my first post on the subject, is a risk premium being applied to insuring the practice of sailing a giant slow thin metal can full of flammable stuff through a war zone, not a supply choke. And that risk premium is dropping.

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>>531448742
Iran called his bluff and the orange nigger is now trying to save face with shameless blatant lies.

>>531449808
>whatever trump gets is what he wanted all along
He wanted the strait opened, you cultist lackey. Instead he got to talk with some Iranian who may or may not be in charge of anything since it's complete fucking chaos over there now. If he didn't just make up talking with someone entirely.

>>531451408
I heard it was trump advisor john barron

>>531450901
Massive migger cope

>>531451752
>now

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>>531450641
you lost tranny

>>531451799
>Massive
What an ugly word from an ugly person.

>>531449065
>oppo talks
No they don’t
They all want no cards America to escalate further
What I can’t figure out is why trump keeps doing this LARP

>>531451919
>tf
>tp
You are the scum of the earth, mutt.
You're even worse than kikes. You're its retarded golem.

>>531449065
The "productive talks" were Iran threatening a massive counterstrike if they were struck. Yes Trump cucked out.

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>>531450948
Kek. We have live one. A real coping migger. Ahahahaha. Post moar copes

>>531451408
Nah, his golf buddy talked to Turkey, Turkey talked to Iran's foreign minister. This was after Trump lied about talking to the speaker of the house because doesn't understand their political system and DOGE sacked his Iran experts at State and Patel sacked his Iran counter-intel in the FBI. This is also why Trump bombed a girls school on a Saturday thinking nobody would be there.
It doesn't change anything.

>>531452001
>why trump keeps doing this LARP
Because he's absolutely desperate because the bond market is pretty much failing.
What's 4.5% of $40T, anon? That's the yearly interest.

>trump wants to negotiate
>iran says no
>threatens to bomb iranian power plants
>iran negotiates....
libtards, thirdies, and jam boys somehow see this as a failure. meanwhile iran has tweeted hundreds of threats on twitter they didn't follow through on. its unreal how jealous of america you niggers are

>>531452108
>What's 4.5% of $40T, anon? That's the yearly interest.
Yea I can do math
doesn’t this mean he shouldn’t attack Iran?

>>531452015
their chance for a counterstrike has come and gone. israel clearly lied to america about how much military power iran actually had

>>531452146
What negotiations? Iran denies any negotiations happened

>>531452146
Iran isn’t negotiating
Iran wants retarded westerners to realize that we benefit from their resources, not the other way around.
That will require the prices of their resources to go dramatically higher.
You guys can use your magical green energy or whatever other mystical source of resources that you love so much you demented delusional fucking retards.
Good fucking luck.

>>531451530
>It's down 10% today.
That's a very big drop. Why did that happen then?

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>>531452146
You lost some in the translation sukhdeep
>Trump wants iran to open the strait
>Iran says no
>Threaten to bomb iranian power plants
>Iran threatens to bomb the shabbos around them in retaliation
>Donke announces he had very good discussion with iran and no bombing of power plants will occur

I can#t even fault Eglin for their desperate attempts any more. Trump says so much contractionary shit one day to the next at some point you just try to go with what you have.

>>531452249
>doesn’t this mean he shouldn’t attack Iran?
But that would mean Bibi won't let him watch anymore when he fucks Melania.
He's desperately trying to stall for time, so the Tripoli and its back-up can get there for his suicide mission. Because he STILL thinks a 'show of force' will do anything.

>>531449065
Lol.

>>531451747
Yes nobody is saying it is closed, certainly not the Iranians. It's closed to the US and their allies, however the Iranians are defining that. It looks like it will remain that way for a while

>>531449065
Well yeah because we’re USA so we have to lie to look good. It’s called propaganda, look it up. Our enemies don’t need to use propaganda because they can just tell the truth and still look like the good guys.

>>531451747
>138 invisible ships went through the strait yesterday. They just don't show up on satellite imagery
kys.

>>531449065
>hurr durr but Obama
Beyond hope

>>531452577
Has there been any news of western nations attempting to negotiate?

Bros im thinking of selling a big chunk of us stocks and then using it as collateral into a multi family property should I do it

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>>531451256
Winning so hard it's truly getting tiresome.

>>531452919
Friendly reminder that there is no such thing as "Iranian oil on the water". That's not how Iran & China trade oil. All oil on the water is Chinese oil, unless you're counting the storage tanks at Kharg as being "on the water".

>>531452919
savage gestalt writedown
where was this published?

>>531451530
>We didn't, oil peaked more than two weeks ago.
It shot up massively when the war broke out. Fell. Then climbed steadily since until a big drop today. That drop had absolutely nothing to do with Trump bottling his threat. Because the President of the US tweeting can't have an effect on markets because of maths or something.

>>531452424
>That's a very big drop. Why did that happen then?
Because, as I've said about 12 times now, that is the risk premium attached to sailing a big slow giant can of fuel through a war zone. If the pool were closed, that would be approximately infinity. Instead, the market is now pricing an open strait and maybe the threat of a drone/missile commander independently taking a shot

>>531452577
>It's closed to the US and their allies
This is nonsense, especially since the US doesn't export any oil through the Strait. Again, if the pool were closed, ME crude would be over $300 and heading up, aka a high demand commodity trapped in a very high risk situation. Instead it peaked at like $50 over WTI and is dropping like a stone, aka a risk premium on a not-trapped commodity that's rapidly returning to 0. This is how the real world works anon, trillion dollar industries are not fooled by tweets on the internet. Internet retards are fooled by tweets on the internet

>>531452686
>well if this objectively true thing were happening why don't I see it on my free internet sites?!
Third worlder

>>531453098
https://archive.is/oIU8n

>>531451530
>They are
Then why don't they show up on satellite imagery?
Not AIS-data. ACTUAL PHOTOS.

>>531453171
>my free internet sites?!
holy shit you're retarded.
Please, buy oil shorts and post them. Otherwise you're a faggot.

>>531453171
>the market is now pricing an open strait
Why did it suddenly do that this morning when prices had been rising steadily for a couple of weeks beforehand?

>>531453202
thanks

this is what happens when you unironically think shit posted on 4chan is good for you and your country and not just trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls

t. shilled for Trump for 10 years and now I'm laughing at you

>>531453118
>It shot up massively when the war broke out. Fell. Then climbed steadily since until a big drop today. That drop had absolutely nothing to do with Trump bottling his threat.
Yes.
See
>>531453171
> Instead it peaked at like $50 over WTI and is dropping like a stone, aka a risk premium on a not-trapped commodity that's rapidly returning to 0.
If the pool were closed, Dubai crude would be a vertical line upward, because everyone wants it but there'd be no way to get it through the strait, so the price goes up to a point where someone says "fuck it we ball" and takes the risk. Instead, there's now an incredibly mild risk premium considering what the job is, sailing a ship the size of a city block full of flammable stuff through the risk of drone and missile fire. And that premium is falling.

>>531453215
>>531453267
>clearly the trillion dollar oil industry full of high-IQ multimillionaire oil traders hasn't seen my free internet sites!!!!
What's wild about stupid people is that you're so stupid you can't encompass the possibility that you're wrong
Believe me, actually, billion dollar per hour commodity desks manned by multimillionaire traders who are the best in the world at profiting from the trade of those commodities actually have access to better information on commodity logistics than you, a retard on the internet
I mean if you believe the pool's not open, everyone in the world is stupid but you, and you should withdraw every euro you have and buy short dated oil calls at like $300, and retire

>>531449267
>Trump got his way
Remind me: is the strait opened? Or will you claim its 5D chess and he just wants them to negotiate (they haven't even done that yet).

>>531448742
Don't feel pity for him. He and his kids are making hundreds of millions, if not billions off this.

>>531453535
>that premium is falling
Then why was the price rising for two weeks after the initial spike and drop...

No cards.

but watching golems drown IS funny

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>>531448992
Fuck awf Shmuley

>>531448916
When we lose, you lose. Idiot.

>>531453535
You're still screeching about "muh free internet site" even though I never said anything about a free internet site.
>actually have access to better information on commodity logistics than you, a retard on the internet
Both them and me are looking at the bloomberg terminal, retard.
You clearly know fuck-all about trading.
AGAIN: POST SHORTS.

>>531453171
>the US doesn't export any oil through the Strait.
No it imports it. That oil is no longer going through the strait to the US. What are you even talking about?
> and is dropping like a stone
It's been rising all through the war. Except today. Because...

>>531448742
AND he's just fucking lying about any "dialogue." Iran's said none such exist. This nigger's still trying to keep oil prices low simply by lying. What's worse, the market keeps fucking falling for it.

Just got off the phone with Iran. They said they haven't heard shit and Trump can go fuck himself. Also they said to say hello to you guys and God bless

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Its called BPD, psycyiatric stuff

why would anyone take anything this orange nigger says seriously? why do the markets even rise and fall on his whims, it's a clown show and we all know that insiders are making billions through this manipulation.
See, some people really are doing well in this economy, it's all the rich cunts around Trump that can just short or buy puts depending on what retarded shit he's saying, knowing he's going to TACO the next day

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>>531453549
>Remind me: is the strait opened?
Looks like the entire world is betting "yes"

>>531453695
Because a risk premium goes up or down according to anticipated risk anon
A supply choke is a different animal. When you can't physically move something from Producer to Buyer the price goes up until it reaches the point where people are willing to take the insane undertaking of trying to move it past whatever's blocking it. How much would you charge to stand on the bridge of 300,000 tons of flammable oil, sailing at 10 knots past an unknown number of guided missiles and drones? A lot, right?

>>531453923
>Both them and me are looking at the bloomberg terminal, retard.
If you actually had access to one, that would be even funnier, because you would be looking at the collapse in the oil risk premium and saying "this clearly indicates 25% of the world's supply is trapped in the Persian Gulf" lmao, aka literally as wrong as it's possible to be
>AGAIN: POST SHORTS.
I don't trade oil. You, however, are apparently experiencing a generational opportunity, so I implore you to take every cent you own and buy $300 oil calls. You will find people willing to sell that to you very very cheap

>>531453970
>That oil is no longer going through the strait to the US
lmao jesus, what is the price of WTI right now?

>>531449267
How did he 'get his 'way', you copium-guzzling retard

>>531448742
Now let's see Bibi hit the plants

>>531454233
You're a waffling delusional migger talking absolute shite.

>>531449065
i hope you at least get paid for this shit retard

What kind of bullshit will he give when it's Saturday and the strait's still closed? He said that's the new deadline to bomb their power station. Obviously he's not going to do that. So he'll have to give another excuse not to bomb. We're still working on talks. We'll have a summit in Alaska soon.

>>531454233
>what is the price of WTI right now?
What does that have to do with you saying the US doesn't import oil from the gulf when it does import oil from the gulf and currently can't because Iran isnt letting them?

I don't get it. Trump/we won. I'm going to celebrate by going to Fred Meyer and getting some cake.

>>531454391
He will just pretend it never happened and declare victory again

>>531454233
>Because a risk premium goes up or down according to anticipated risk anon
How come the market suddenly changed their assesment this morning? Bit odd wouldn't you say? I'd appreciate your insight into the reasons for this shift.

>>531449065
>You want to assume trump is lying and assume iran is telling the truth that's youre problem.
it's perfectly fair to assume both sides are lying or greatly exaggerating when the entirety of the negotiations appear to be taking place over the equivalent of high school facebook posts

>>531454233
>you would be looking at the collapse in the oil risk premium and saying "this clearly indicates 25% of the world's supply is trapped in the Persian Gulf" lmao
That's not what the deltas are showing at all.
>I implore you to take every cent you own and buy $300 oil calls
I've been running the wheel since March 1st. Already up over €75k REALIZED on brent alone. Now kys.
>what is the price of WTI right now?
What's the price of DIESEL in the US?
The US doesn't really import much crude from the gulf. But it does import diesel.

>>531454391
He'll say they're letting Chinese and Indian ships through and then probably blame Europe because they need the fuel more than him

>>531454109
Inshallah. Nice to hear from the lads.

>>531448742
Better to back out than to let things spiral out of control.

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>>531449433
Same with Japan. when their trade delegation was in DC last summer the White House/Treasury put out statements saying what a great deal they had 3 or 4 times, and each time the Japanese would put out a statement saying no deal had been reached and negotiations were continuing. When an agreewant was finally revealed it was very watered down lots of loopholes, not at all the golden sunrise the administration was pitching it as.

>>531449592
>This is allowing them to make money in a joint venture. This is deal making. This is what trumo has been saying he does for going on 50 fucking years.
kys. It's time

>>531454352
Actually, I just explained the basic principles of commodities pricing to you in terms that a moderately bright child could understand, and you couldn't
Literally everyone who knows anything about the situation, and has skin in the game, has decided the opposite of what you believe.

>>531454475
>What does that have to do with you saying the US doesn't import oil from the gulf when it does import oil from the gulf and currently can't because Iran isnt letting them?
This is again sad, but kind of funny. I'll again try in terms a child could understand:
The US both produces and consumes oil. The main stuff the US produces is light sweet crude, similar to what you get out of the Middle East.) A good proxy for that is WTI (West Texas Intermediate) which gives you a good idea of what people are paying for US light sweet crude at the time.
If the US imported a significant quantity of light sweet crude from the Persian Gulf, and could not get it through the Strait of Hormuz, the result would be increased demand for domestically-produced light sweet crude, which would cause a rise in WTI as buyers who can't get their Persian Gulf oil bid for domestically produced oil instead.
The opposite of this is happening.

>>531454591
>How come the market suddenly changed their assesment this morning?
The market is betting the chances of a protracted war are rapidly approaching zero. A better options trader could probably give you a precise date but it looks to me like before the first week of April for sure.
This is a risk premium going down to zero, not a supply choke like a closed Strait would be.

>>531452008
4chan really messed up your head. Poor you.

>>531454857
>If the US imported a significant quantity of light sweet crude from the Persian Gulf
Are you saying it does import from the gulf? That's odd. You said the opposite earlier
Consistency is important when talking to children anon - they have a nose for bullshit

>>531454658
>deltas
lmao somebody tried to use a big business word and doesn't know what it means!
inb4 "w-well English isn't my first l-language)
>I've been running the wheel since March 1st. Already up over €75k REALIZED on brent alone.
lmao if that were true I would beg you to cash in your chips and get out of the casino, because you're about to crap out. I know it's not, though
>But it does import diesel.
That's true! Weirdly, diesel in the US is not $12 a gallon, as you'd expect with a significant chunk of supply trapped on the other side of the world while consumption stays the same because literally every stage of logistics in the US runs on diesel or its close relatives that go into jet engines.

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>>531454857
>the result would be increased demand for domestically-produced light sweet crude, which would cause a rise in WTI
Yes

>>531455012
>actually can't read
what's the first word in the sentence you quoted? It has two letters and starts with "i"

How brown are you?

>>531455087
>Cope
Yeah I know, you have no more arguments.
Have fun staying poor. Oh and kys.

>>531448742
>Now we're just watching a pathetic old man flail around while he drowns.
we have been watching that since 2016, you must have finally woken up from your trump derangement syndrome.

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>>531448793
>>531448508
I too was a rabid Iran supporter until I saw how brown they really are. The elites are of course the lightest skinned like most Asians and use whitening creams and injections on top of lighting and filters in their photos.

>>531455178
>>the result would be increased demand for domestically-produced light sweet crude, which would cause a rise in WTI
>posts a chart showing a peak >2 weeks ago and an 11% decline today
lmfao oh my god lol
Do you understand that what you posted proves that you're wrong

>>531448916
yes,you lost to iran, trannymerica

>>531455267
>there is no demand
Then why is the volume 5x what it normally is?

>>531454857
>assesment this morning?
>The market is betting the chances of a protracted war are rapidly approaching zero
It suddenly did that today. After Trump tweeted about nonexistent negotiations.
Obviously that wasn't the cause of the shift. We both know that'd be ridiculous.

Trump is angling for an insanity defence when he he has to face the music for this clusterfuck.

>>531455267
I know the price went down today, you despicable migger charlatan. That was what got us into this "discussion" in the first place.

>>531455248
>tried to larp as an independent commodities trader
>got laughed at by a guy who retired in 2021
>h-hfsp :((((
Like I said, you've got the opportunity to retire your grandchildren if you're right. Even week-dated $140 oil calls will make you rich at this point, and literally everyone in the world doesn't see what you see. People will sell those to you for pennies

>>531453535
>full of high-IQ multimillionaire oil traders
kek, truly one of the greatest lies ever told.

>>531448742
The second post says the first proved to be an effective negotiation stance and resolved the dispute. So Trump won.

>>531455417
>keeps agreeing with me
>can't understand why this makes him wrong
Anon, what is a risk premium? And how is it different from a supply choke?

>>531455409
>v-volume
lmao oh my god the larp gets funnier and funnier
remember when you pretended to have a bloomberg terminal

>>531448742
MAGA-tards will just take is as another Art of the Deal win. They're so hopeless it's sad.

>>531455786
kek true
sometimes I think the true measure of career success in that field is the capacity for modafinil and cocaine

>>531449065
I'm not even sure if this was real in your mind.

>>531455877
I imagine risk premium is the cost of insurance and a supply choke is some factor stopping the stuff physically getting where it needs to go.
You still haven't given a reason why a change in risk premium would suddenly affect the price today when it hadn't for the last few weeks. What is the cause?

>>531455877
>No answer
Again: Why is the volume 5x what it normally is?

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>>531452008
Why is toothpaste always so angry

>>531456093
>why are there more trades happening when a commodity is volatile?
You do realize that, to anyone who's even seen an episode of a TV show about the subject, you keep revealing that you don't know anything about the subject?

>>531456092
>You still haven't given a reason why a change in risk premium would suddenly affect the price today when it hadn't for the last few weeks.
... You think that risk was constant up until this morning?

>>531456391
The projection is staggering.
Why don't you simply answer the question? You might even learn something.

>>531456391
I think you should answer the fucking question

>>531449065
whos he talking with? their leaders all got bombed the last time he sent demands. none of them would be stupid enough to fall for this a third time.
why did the postponement come just before markets opened? why are the marines and landing craft he sent for still en route?
why is he reinforcing airports with ice? why is he gearing up the national guard for mass deployment by next week?
hes not stopping anything, hes just stalling. stop being a retard.

>>531455262
I don't support Iran, I just want everyone else to lose.

>>531456476
>Why don't you simply answer the question? You might even learn something.
I did, while appropriately mocking you for asking a question that revealed you didn't know anything about the subject
Like I said, you can get $140 oil calls for pennies on the dollar right now. 20k could retire your grandchildren right now.

>>531456518
>I think you should answer the fucking question
I'm trying to understand it. You think that the risk premium for sailing a crude carrier through a war zone was constant from, I guess, the beginning of March until this morning? That makes no sense.
Do I need to explain risk premium vs supply choke again? I've been racking my brains to try to figure out a way I'd tell my 5 year old niece.
>let's say you have a delivery van and you have to make a delivery to a place where Bob The Baddie likes to steal delivery vans...

>>531455833
you fell for it again

>>531456846
Why do you think the price fell today? You said it's a change in risk. Why today?
You need to stop being a condescending, prevaricating joker and give a reason.
I've got a reason: the dickhead who started the war and made a stupid escalatory threat over the weekend walked it back publicly this morning. What do you say? Reasonable?

>>531456846
No, you didn't. You intentionally made a somewhat vague statement about volatility, so that you don't have to actually answer the question.
Like you just did again right now.
Let me answer it for you:
>Because there are a lot of retards trading paper right now trying to make a buck off of hype
Which tells you that
>billion dollar per hour commodity desks manned by multimillionaire traders
Isn't who's controlling this market right now.
Now for those who actually want to buy physical oil? They also first look at the price of HFO, and the availability of vessels, because those both need to be factored in when actually buying oil.
When the evergreen blocked the suez for 6 DAYS, it took 5 WEEKS to clear up the backlog. The strait of hormuz (another one of the busiest lanes in the world) has now been backed up (95%+ reduction in traffic) for 24 days.

See, that's why I have a bloomberg terminal, and you don't. Because I actually look at more than one data-point, and connect dots.

Time for tea. Peace out. Kill all miggers.

>>531457175
>Why do you think the price fell today? You said it's a change in risk. Why today?
Judging by the size of the drop, I'd say it's because peace negotiations are underway.
>I've got a reason: the dickhead who started the war and made a stupid escalatory threat over the weekend walked it back publicly this morning. What do you say? Reasonable?
I mean if you're too young to remember 2017-2020 ok, but Trump's been doing this same thing in public for a year now
>make outrageous demand
>other side refuses
>threaten outrageous consequences
>negotiate down to actual desire, both sides look good
Now the Iranians can agree to a peace deal with the side that hit them unprovoked, assassinated their entire leadership, and wiped out 99% of their armed forces, without it being an obvious fold
>such is our might and our resolve that the "world's sole superpower" had to back down and acknowledge our sovereignity blah blah blah
Aka what he did with North Korea, and tariffs with you and the rest of the EU

>>531457328
>You intentionally made a somewhat vague statement about volatility
It's not vague at all IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE SUBJECT
The fact that you asked why the volume of trades on a commodity was up when it's volatile -- you have to understand, to anyone who knows anything about the subject, you just exposed yourself as knowing nothing, almost literally nothing, about the subject

>Now for those who actually want to buy physical oil? They also first look at the price of HFO, and the availability of vessels, because those both need to be factored in when actually buying oil.
lmao finally gave up and went to ChatGPT huh
>When the evergreen blocked the suez for 6 DAYS, it took 5 WEEKS to clear up the backlog.
and even it's telling you you're wrong lol

>See, that's why I have a bloomberg terminal, and you don't.
lmao
>Because I actually look at more than one data-point, and connect dots.
LMAO
Get those $140 oil calls in then and post screenshot. Somehow every single trader in the world but you is completely wrong and you can make 100x your money for free, right now. Buy as far OTM as you can, this is your Michael Burry moment

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>>531457886
>Muh chatgpt
pathetic. I'm out.

>>531452467
Kek same. I'm almost impressed at how he manages to find a new spin everyday. This fag is earning his paycheck.

>>531458113
>got busted for using ChatGPT
>so stupid he didn't realize it was telling him he was wrong
>cries and runs away
lmao

>>531458207
>Acts like a retarded gorilla throwing his own shit
>Expects to be treated like a human
kys

>>531458261
>i'm out :((((
>sticking around and raging
lmao
Don't forget those $140 oil calls!

>>531449065
/thread
even the guy with 5 IQ and 1 HP gets it. damn.

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>>531448742
>cucks out in all caps

spics will never stop seething

>>531449065
this got the spics and sandniggers seething kek

>>531454857
>>The market is betting the chances of a protracted war are rapidly approaching zero.
Iran literally hit Dimona again eight minutes ago.
The markets are wrong.

>>531459519
>The markets are wrong.
Then I have great news for you, because there are several avenues to make a bunch of money if you're right, from simple bets on prediction platforms to hilarious options calls at like 1% premium
Chances are, though, like in March 2020 when we were all still posting satellite images of giant secret corpse bonfires in China while the market started rocketing, that the market is right
The same people who run the world also run the market, and they know stuff before we do

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yuo lost tranny iranny. now i will have a delicious pepe the frog kek cake, cause trannes never win. YOU LOST TRANNIES

>>531459519
The USA doesn't have stock to continue this for more than two months. No possible way this turns into a protracted war.

>>531460104
It can go for longer if it's willing to take more casualties, since it has large stockpiles of dumb bombs.

>>531448916
such a lazy bot post. and of course 1pbtid. maga is scared shitless. they cant even take the time to defend themselves - its all ad hominems now

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Trannies lost and I feel like 200 is pretty cheap to fill up the old diesel. We have to support Israel and Trump.

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>>531448742
You lost tranny

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>>531451333
MUH DOOOOOOOW

>>531460055
>>531461086
Miggers make fools of themselves enough already without your shitty trolling

>>531448742
Shut the fuck up TDS faggot bitch leftoid traitor NPC, Trump is the greatest president we've had in 100 fucking years, while your pedophile-in-chief Dementia Joe wasn't even fucking alive. Kill yourself immediately and violently.

>>531461444
You lost, tranny lol
Pure jealousy of the president. Netherlands is full of muslim you are probably brown.

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>>531461531
It's going to be so funny when the heart condition gets the guy who eats nothing but McDicks and obsesses over his face makeup before the based ice cream enjoyer croaks