AI BUBBLE IS ABOUT TO POP
>>531544851Images have less of a cliff than language processingIt will still be used in other companies.
> incomprehensible ESL xitter headling> no link as usual because OP is a kid diddling tranny> troonhive
@grok, @gemini, @seedance is this real?
Not my problem.
>>531545066I dont think this is the way they will allow it to work.Sure they stole copyrighted material, but thinking they will allow local use of THEIR trained models without a pay is just retarded.Your local AI will be local locked by the looks of it
>>531544851Even if it pops, it won't stop AI slop. The tech is already freely available to anyone.
>>531544851you mean that the jewish scam OpenAI is going under? so what?
>>531545257Who's going to pay for computing power to generate it, you?
>>531545452>ThisAI has been the single most costly endeavor in human history and it has resulted in nothing but lost profits for everyone who got involved. Once Google and Microslop decide they no longer want to dump hundreds of billions of dollars down the drain that will be the end of "AI," nobody will be coming up behind them to try it for themselves.
>>531545452I run them locally, so yes, I will. Fuck artists.
It's so funny that these companies need to blow through 59 liters of water and 20,000 watts of power to do some shit I can do in my mind, powered by a sip of water, a few pieces of jerky, and half a banana.What a failed piece of shit.
>>531545948Soon we will be able to digitize thoughts too.
>>531545646this is the only sustainable way
>>531546073>Two more weeks!
>>531544851No it isn’t. It’s just putting it all behind pro-only paywalls so it can be exclusively used by the film industry and not normies.The ultimate goal is to have entirely AI-generated feature films (especially animation) but they know the public will react poorly if they know a product is AI generated so they’re hiding the product development behind an industrial-scale paywall (or taking it entirely private with Disney) so that when fully AI generated films start getting released the general public won’t realize it.
i used sora a bit:> it wasn’t good at generating what you asked > all my good sora videos needed editing outside of sora> i used entire days of gens (25 vids?) to get nothing useful and deleted them. > i had probably 4 good videos out of 100 generated and all of them needed editing
Let me know when it actually pops. It will, but I'm tired of hearing about it.
>>531546290>but they know the public will react poorly if they know a product is AI generatedAnyone who's not retarded can identify an AI generated video when they see one on instagram that's only like 20 seconds long. Nobody is going to be fooled by a 2 hour AI disaster.
>>531545948You can’t sell your thoughts to the goyim on a global scale, fucknut.
>>531546397We went from a mutated Will Smith eating spaghetti to almost-believable simulacrums of known celebrities in less than 2 years. The rest of the development will be done behind closed doors so that when Pixar releases a fully AI generated Toy Story 6 and Cars 7 in 2-3 more years the low-IQ international masses will slurp it up like a methamphetamine milkshake.
>>531544851napster is going under you guys.piracy is officially OVER
>>531546290So at least they stop third worlders from flooding internet with their AI slop? Good enough, I barely watch any modern movies or shows anyway.
>>531545948What happens if you eat a whole bannana
>>531544851fuck,,
>>531545948I'm just a home programmer but something that would have taken 2 weeks to get working I can make in an hour. Jobs there were highly skilled can now be done good enough by someone who casually knows the subject. Its capable of taking jobs but companies are holding back for now. I think AI could be better for teaching, it would be like having your own personal teacher.Its possible that in a few years it won't progress much past the helping programmers stage.
>>531544851>Only elites can make fake videos nowjesus fucking christ
the most powerful ai systems won't be accessible to the average utter retard, they will only be available to privileged utter retards
>>531546397the idea is that now a real artist only has to make specific key frames and AI will handle the inbetween frames exactly as any human artist would logically do
>>531544851They just want to make more money with it so they will probably launch video generation as its own thing with an expensive monthly subscription
>>531544851What le heck? Indians on /pool/ told me ai was the future and I was a Luddite for not using it ? Le heck?
Lotta dumb fucking idiots in the thread.They're turning off public access to the vidslop machine and going to exclusive private contracts with big media.
>>531545452When the AI bubble pops it will be easier to run things locally since ram will start going back down in price. Also even if the bubble doesn't pop microslop is sitting in like a million H100 accelerators that they are unable to use and in a few years they'll be dumped for pennies (because it won't be worth the power to run them since newer better cards will exist by then) and end up on aliexpress for local users to buy.
>>531547303Holy Indian cope
No refunds
>>531547694but it was free
>>531547500Shut up Sarjeet.Indians USE Sora a lot. For free.Disney will pay OpenAI billions of dollars to use it.But if Indians are allowed to keep using it for free, the Disney's IP will be destroyed by slop.So Disney begged and pleaded and showed buckets of cash to Fag Altman and he chose the high paying customer over the 1.5 billion street shitting freeloaders.
>>531544851Start praying because there's a very real chance this will be worse than the dotcom crash.
>>531547865I think that's what we need.
AI bubble won't pop.LLMs, image generation, audio, and video generation were only the pretext to get the funding off the ground.AI surveillance state and AI-assisted warfare was always the end goal.
>>531544851Can we all admit the post-covid economy has been comically fake and gay?
>>531548206The end goal is to turn all of humanity into a planetary scale loosh-generation factory for the benefit of the transdimensional beings who imprisoned us in this simulation.
>>531544851Every anti-AI person seems to think that OpenAI (mostly ChatGPT LLM) represents all of AI companies (meaning that nothing AI is not profitable in any way).No, they are filthy beggars because AI is their only business. All the other big companies have another source of income that basically gives them infinite money. OpenAI just begs for gubment gibs while using it to purchase 40% of all RAM in the world
>>531545646You said it xister.
threads like these are what really brings all the reddit trannies out the woodwork. you can call them disgusting freaks all day and they'll laugh and agree with you but post anything about ai and they're frothing at the mouth in record time
>>531546944Fpbp
>>531546998Own teacher - GitHub OpenMAIC
>>531548957They're def mad their fellow faggot Altman is betraying them.They throw gay hissyfits anytime ChatGPT gets changed to be less able of doing their gay RP bullshit. Their tears are delicious.
>>531544851grok Imagine is deadSORA2 is deadVEO 3 is fucking shit and censoredSeedance 1.5 Pro is fucking good and uncensored, Winnie-sama I KNEEL!!!
>>531545948How can I speculate on your imagination and convince other people it's an appreciating asset
does this mean no more cat ai slop!?
Damn it. Now I'm gonna have to pay people for my furry fetish porn again
>>531547122They said they are exiting video generation completely
>>531547303>>531550075
>>531549607Grok still works fine. Just no bikinis and certain other things. I made this not long ago
>>531546290>>531550075
>>531549295not gonna lie this is actually pretty cool.
>>531544851China, through the power of Communism, will just make the models free and open source. Any amount of money spent on AI will be for zero profit because the "latest advancements" will just be made free for all a few months later. The only reason to spend money on AI is to stay ahead of the arms race for national security reasons, "investing" in AI is a dead end, and everyone will soon realize this.
>>531544851> Macaco flagUnfortunately this is BS
>>531545066>>531546323It probably just isn’t profitable. They thought that normies would be able to make funny clips and shorts, but 90% of people lack creativity to make things that others want, and only 1/2 of that remaining 5% will take the time to learn how to correctly prompt the AI, then you only have some of those last 2.5% who will set up workflows and do post editing etc. to make it look professional and appealing.The shit I saw that went viral was one or two early adopters just messing around, but nobody really gives a fuck about you adding Marvel characters to your standard family vacation movies.You can’t just prompt it and have it start printing Hollywood cash like a fucking instant movie studio or ad agency, you still need to storyboard first, do 15 takes of each scene, post process, etc. and then still somehow sell what you made or otherwise make it worth your own time and the compute for generating all those clips.
>>531544851>cloud based image and video generationNGMI kind of thing.It's been 4 years and none of those proprietary tools is even remotely close to beat Stable Diffusion and it's many derived models and tooling.They simply lack the interfaces to create anything that goes beyond a text to image conversion/generation which is basically a lottery. Some times you get good stuff but for most time its trash. You need at least something like ComfyUI to get consitent, customizable, fine-tunable and ultimately usable outputs.I tried Sora a few months ago. Its objectively useless for anything but shitty memes. Not only there's massive censorship that goes way beyond porn, but all you have for prompting is the barebones text inteface with arbitrary and obscure rules. Doesn't help the built in asset management was god awful too.>OpenAIAs for this company in particular, OpenAI is obsolete. For coding you're objectively better with Anthropic. Grok is also better as well.For search chat, free Gemini or Grok are good enough, otherwise selfhost with Ollama isn't bad either.For graphics and video, selfhosting SD is the ideal or at worse using Chinese services is better. Even Grok and Gemini are marginally better than Sora.The only reason OpenAI still survives is brand recognition.
>>531544851i'm siding with whomever wins
>>531544851>>531545128https://x.com/soraofficialapp/status/2036546752535470382Sora official statementhttps://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/digital/openai-shutting-down-sora-ai-video-app-1236546187/Disney cancelling their billion dollar deal with Sora/OpenAI
>>531550142can you make her have a puppy male acquiantance?they usually wear highheels. maube +her stepping on him
id imagine they keep the video generation logic and rebrand it as something else thats not some tiktok slop but pure video gen.
>>531550142touch grass
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>>531545452Text doesn't need a lot of energy. It's images and specially videos sucking up all the energy. They will cut all of that and leave only text again.
>>531544851See all those tranny colors?Now you know why.
>>531550952This. God, I wish I had more time and money. I really enjoyed trying to tell stories with AI. I hope Suno sticks around. They've taken steps to increase possibilities for editing. I have a friend who tried Suno and asked why his songs didn't sound as good as mine; but I often spend five to eight hours submitting, listening, revising my lyrics, revising the prompt. Then I download the stems and fuck with them on my laptop. I often cut out lyrics, regenerate part of the song, and paste in the new output.You can get as much out of AI as the time and money you have to put in.
>>531546073it already hallucinates like crazy. gpt5 is worse than gpt4. asking it to edit even simple code requires oversight and it will still find a way to screw it up by overlooking a basic core concept of the code. basic stuff like background opacity in a script to highlight values in a webpage it will randomly turn solid instead. until you can trust it not to screw up or hallucinate its useless because it cannot be trusted. anyone advocating to use this for more than text editing or other basic tasks is an idiot or an industry shill. israel and our military love using it for targeting because they just want more targets, instead of rebombing the same things over and over again like we usually do it has us randomly hitting things like girls schools and apartment buildings. what good was AI in gaza if the plan was to turn it into a parking lot, it wasnt, it was a lie. if we are using it to guide us in this iran boondoggle it would explain a lot.
>>531546290china does far better for far cheaper, the rest is cope
>>531549607Just run local WAN2.2 with NSFW loras
>>531544851It's a liability because of all the anti deepfake laws that will be hitting the Western world. That and the fact that open sourced chinese models have been better for well over a year now.
>>531546290Yeah Disney probably gets Sora in house I mean its named after a fucking Disney Kingdom Hearts character anyway. It is only good for replacing giant special effects houses that cost 100 million dollars. Nobody was really doing anything good with AI anyway.
>>531550646Project NOMAD GitHub also very cool
>>531553392Grok has outdone all the Chinese AI I have seen on /gif/ but I guess they "won" because everyone else quit lol not sure if this is a flex.
>>531544851So they stole money from disney and now they shut it down... OY VEY!
>>531552260Time is the main constrain. That's why every tech company always aims at teen/young people for development just because they have more free time. It isn't that they are smarter or they are open to trying new things. They probably don't have full time job and can spend +12 hours manipulating software. But attention span is getting down so not even in that case they can be really that productive. It's always the 2% that have time+ideas+motivation that get there.>>531550952Well to be fair it isn't that 90% of people lack creativity to make things others want. The demand of content is shaped and guided by algorithms and that content is overestimulating shit to catch attention (if you want to get viral) So either you let go of your creative wholesome ideas and start doing what the algorithms seeks for or you are done. Yet with AI there are much more possibilities to what could be done before to innovate and do novel things.
>>531544851I'm so fucking sick of AI. Let's fucking go
>>531545948>a few pieces of jerkyThose take 100 liters of water to produce.
I already read that newspapers's websites have seen their visits decrease a lot recently, since AI started. What will happen to websites that explained things now that everyone uses AIs to resolve their doubts?
>>531544851Why would they need a license?
>>531546871You escape samsara.
>>531550142>need tomboy
>>531546871Overdrive.
>>531552817>>531553569Pixar has lost massive amounts of money on the majority of the films they’ve produced since Disney bought them. Once thy can lay off that entire workforce and replicate their previous successes and create films basically for free using an AI trained on John Lasseter’s creative output writing the scripts and 2-3 low paid character designers and storyboard artists they’ll be able to create customized animated slop for every market on earth.
>>531550952Someone will eventually make a lot of money by publishing AI prompts, then this new "profession" will be diluted enough and everyone will be able to do it!
>>531554051Okay smartass. And what's what resources are needed to make a GPU and its memory, and all the power and data transfer infrastructure? How much water and fuel and resources are needed to make ASML's machines? How much water and resources are needed to make the materials, the machines, the infrastructure, etc that's used to create some shoddy-ass fake images on a PC monitor that I can imagine with food I grow in my backyard using rainwater?AI uses several of orders of magnitude more energy and resources to do basic half-assed work that I can do when I sleep.
>>531550743>a leaf who knows what he is talking aboutrare
>>531554051jerky requires water. quite the opposite, the whole process is removing water
>>531545646Which software do you use to locally generate AI videos?
>>531554193makes sensebananas are the most based fruitof course, always paired with an apple or orange, ya know, something roundbecause, well, despite how remarkable the banana is, still nice to hang out, and theyre helpful...sometimes
>>531544851If they pop do I get Nvidia gpus for cheap? What about Ram?
>>531544851sora was shit because it was never released for free. Locking it behind paywall just made people not want to use it.
I WISH A NIGGA WOULD
>>531555010topkekperfect gif for that post, anon, well done
>>531544851No openai is just the weakest link and they're freeing up cash. Grok has their video model beat. Claude has their coding and agentix models beat. OpenAIs money is selling ads in chat and their MS partnership. Would be very surprised if they come out on top of anything.
>>531545645>Once Google and Microslop decide they no longer want to dump hundreds of millions of dollars down the drain that will be the end of "Internet"Ftfy. You people have no idea how cooked you are lmfao. Gee don't you think the water is getting a bit hot, frog? No? OK buddy.
I don't know about the rest of the companies, but Open AI in particular is totally fucked. Their leverage is insane.
>>531551059I dunno... Could I make this clip with ComfyUI? It more depends on if there are LoRAs for these behaviors (like the Michelle Jenneke dance), otherwise it wouldn't be as convincing. I could train my own LoRA, but that's pretty hard and takes a long time with my 5070Ti.I think generally the cloud based ones output higher quality videos. Sure you can only work with text and it IS a bit of a lottery, but you can get very precise with that text after playing with it for a while, if you have a mind for it. You can have like a 4000 character prompt that produces almost the same thing every time
>>531546871It would be extremely painful.
>>531550952you forgot the funniest part, those 2.5% will be turbo autist and just train their own AI leaving this bubble to rot
>>531555200he probably uses comfyui, with the latest video models. that software can almost do anything nowadays.
>>531553822to stupid for it i bet
>>531554598ive already considered this.......... like weeks ago which id forever in AI time
>>531546871We don't do that anymore. Not since the incident.
>>531545646Kek good luck selling your 0.02 cents generation. The more AI art you make the more shitheads will sell bananas trapped to a wall for millions.
>>531545645None of that money was real lel
>>531544851Did somebody say pop?
>>531559269Only boomers believe that
It's the smart move. There is a lot of competition when it comes to images. And it requires a lot of processing power.
They’ve been cash flow negative forever but what’s really funny is they all nuked their own business models by disallowing NSFW deepfakes. That’s really the reason 90% of users were interested in AI. The consumer market is small otherwise. That’s why they’re all just going to repackage their AIs as enterprise software to replace labor.
>>531545645Boo, everyone's so negative about everything. AI is cool, you're all fags, I'm outta here.
>>531544851AI chatbots are awful, they're shit, I don't see the point, they're just a search engine, a search engine with an opinion based on the usually woke development team. AI chatbots clearly arent it, they're for Indians, serve no purpose.AI will be most beneficial in less obvious ways
>>531559482Microsoft is already trying that and it's not working. Stockholders aren't fooled by the claims of boosting productivity, and there's practically weekly reports about AI generated everything causing major problems in various industries. The wheels are coming off.
>>531546871You don't want to know.
>>531544851They're going to pretend AI video was never really a thing. And they'll keep using it for government operations and convince normies it's real footage.
>>531554598AI prompts can't be copyrighted, so that's a dead end.
Sora sucked and was a huge disappointment.
>>531561123it talked so god damn much. Always yapping, yap yap yap, it couldn't shut up for a second until you explicitly told it to talk like a retard.
no they probably had backroom talks and agreed AI video is too much of a competitor to the judeo media psyops and media brands (hollywood)
>>531544851i dont think you understand the picture that you posted
>>531561710I doubt it. Sora didn't do shit for replacing movies, especially when their competitors looked like this
>>531553688Grok is no longer free.
I didn't see how stuff like OpenAI business model can still exist when we have all these open source models.The advantage closed source stuff isn't enough to justify such a price for the vast majority of time.
>>531544851please hurry up i need to buy new ram
>>531555200nta but comfyui + wan + ltx does wonderscheck out >>>/g/ldg/as your starting point and hope you already have RAM and vidya card because shit's a fortune
>buy up all of the decent computer components>jack the fuck out of the prices of the scrap you left behind>stop and do nothing with themHuh?
Ai generated video for me but not for theeThere will be fully synthetic public persona avatars running for office, being talking heads on TV, streamers, YouTubers, etcThe time will come soon where you can’t trust anything you see on a screen. We’re almost there
>>531546719>methamphetamine milkshakeI prefer amphetamine moloko
>>531561955Is this real? WTF
>>531561955holy kek
>>531550952video models are not taking off since their generation times are limited, two to five minutes or something like thatwhat can average retard do with that besides making memes or some technical stuff?besides malicious reason of cloning someone into vids and using it for who knows whatfor vid models to take off they need to be able to output at least 20 - 30 minutes of video that adheres to prompts and it has to be with reasonable speed>i want to turn my audio book/book/short story into a movie>i want to create a show seriesthat is the only reason for vid models
Local LLMs like Clawbot will be around but large scale "AI" is fucked
>>531544851ACCELERATECCELERATE
>>531563185>The time will come soon where you can’t trust anything you see on a screenI don't think it matters as much as you'd expect. We are already partly there (we can make perfect low-res fake CCTV footage just with Grok and After Effects), yet you can still trust just what the consensus says on the Internet. There are reputable sources who strive to never lie, who get lots of followers for that reason. And if multiple of those sources say the same thing, you can almost trust that it's probably true. But still, people are rightly skeptical of everything nowadays. Which is a good thing; it's naive to just trust
>>531551215>AI platforms to find new ways to meet fans where they are while responsibly embracing new technologies that respect IP and the rights of creators.so they hit AI with copyright bs huh, as expected artist are scum.
