Technically Russia conquered all these territories fair and square from the Nazis so they have a right to them. At least a bigger right than Washington.All I'm saying is that there is nothing morally wrong with Russia trying to get it back. If Russia invaded Poland tomorrow, there would be nothing morally wrong with it.Like it or not, it's the harsh truth and deep inside you know it.
Washington doesn't own themAnd if it does, it won them fair and square after the Cold War.You don't get to selectively apply right of conquest
>>531574236Putin didn't do any of that though. Why does he deserve to rule over people just because someone from the same country (sort of) as him ruled over those people's ancestors before any of them were born?
>>531574236No.
>>531574236The harsh truth is that 21% of russians do not have indoor plumbing.
>>531574236Soviet union died, comintern expamded. Check Berlin wall. You got Merkel from that. Say thank you to your yiddish overlords
>>53157448885% of Russia is owned by only 10%
>>531574236>Russia trying to get it backThey have been trying to get back a very little part for more than four years without success.
>>531574488Look at a map. Most of it is in fucking Asia. Why should a shithole region next to Tajikistan magically have plumbing just because it belongs to Russia?
>>531574236The Revolution was subverted by Jews.
>>531574236No western country wanted to die for Poland at the start of WW2, and not one will want to now. In fact, they will probably laugh and celebrate when it happens this time lolThe fuck makes anyone think this time would be any different? Article 5 is carefully worded for a reason.
>>531574236If Russians reach here an conquer this shithole. I wouldn't mind.Come back in 2 or 3 centuries.
>>531574518How does importing loads of niggers benefit the native working class who’d rather let the country decline
>>531574769>thinks plebs are supposed to benefit from evil kikes somehow
technically it lost the cold war so the lada federation needs some liberating
>>531574236Historical claims mean nothing. Only power does.What Russia/Putin needs to do is stop being a cuck and kill its enemies, not just in the ukraine by anywhere, specially in Europe.If they aren't willing to do it, just give up and shut the fuck up.
>>531574837I’m asking because I’m a communist. I’m not dumb enough to buy what you are selling.
>>531574236Get out of my country before I slit your throat slav rat
>>531574236Even without all those territories, Russia is still the biggest country in Europe.
>>531574937What am i selling?
>>531574488Funny thing is, Russia is the country with the largest European population.
>>531574236Furthermore, all those people, are more like russians than they are germans
And then Gorbachev lost it all by being a retard. He pretty much gave it all up for nothing. Did you forget history didn't stop in 1945?
>>531574236Shut up you square-headed tankie tranny lol
>>531574987False. Russia is much more german genetically than Germany is russian
>>531574769It's not about helping the working class, Marxism took a cultural turn in the 1960s. It's now about destroying the old culture, race, nation, etc, not about helping workers now.
>Genetic studies show that Russians are closely related to Poles, Belarusians, Ukrainians, as well as Estonians, Latvians, Lithuanians, and Finns.[45][47][48][49] POLAND BTFO.
>>531574236>right to them>nothing morally wrong Pathetic. Might makes right and russia is weak as fuck.
>>531575067lolSorry Poland, you don't get to be a country. But you do get to be a Russia.
>>531574236Technically Germany and France (Napoloen) conquered all these territories fair and square from the Russians, so they have a right to them. All I'm saying is that there is nothing morally wrong with Germany trying to get it back. If Germany or France invaded Poland tomorrow, there would be nothing morally wrong with it.
>>531575067And Poles and Belarusians are on average 40% German/Germanic
>pidors still can't conquer the poorest country in europe and yet still fantasize about conquering half of the continentkek
>>531574967Leese sounds like a good guy but I would never vote for him. For one the problem is larger than jews and two I don’t want to live under a dictatorship with an incoherent ideology that exists SOLELY to preserve and expand elite power at the expense of the working class really the only thing good about it is getting rid of kosher/halal slaughter and mutilation and keeping britain’s working class native.
>>531575322(assuming i had a leese clone in my country)
>>531574236>fair and squareNigger
>>531575038Mehmet that is incredible mental gymnastics. Give me half an hour to make head and tails of that retardation
>>531574236TZD lmao
>>531575038halts maul du erbärmlicher vatnigger Hu Ren Sohn und geh zurück nach vatnigeria wo du hingehörst, wolgamüll
>>531575555checked takes about 5,87 days for this many vatniggers to be engoodenedthey truly are locusts
>>531575052Sounds like bullshit fake communists to me.
Gracious Stalin-sama gave us our borders in so their ours. Unless they resurect him they have no right to invade.
>>531574236Hi Dennis.
>>531575723>we haven't tried the mythical real -ism before!!!>never look how it worked in practice!!!
>>531574986You mean the largest muslim population. Not just in percentage, also in gross numbers.
>>531574236that's not russia smartass
>>531574236No because they made an agreement for independence when communism fell so ownership was transferred over. You can't give something away then ask for it back 30 years later
>>531574236>fair and square>what is lend lease
>>531574236No, thanks lol. Your problem now. Just get the fuck put of donbass.
>>531575866unironically you can gargle my dick while i raise an army for the working class while you twiddle your thumbs over dead jews might makes right consider yourself moggedcommunism is a matter of necessity and national service if you truly love your country and people now is an excellent time and you would never allow the elite to rape your country’s working class or grow out of control like it does every single time.
>>531576082>while i raise an army for the working classOk. Good luck with that
>>531575052>It's now about destroying the old culture, race, nation, etcThat's leftists in America and only really America. Euro liberals from the 2010s took their cue from America. Does anybody in Europe support immigration today. Felt like I saw a lot more pro immigrant stuff from Euros 10 years ago and basically none today. Even the popular left parties in Europe are basically against it.
>>531576189nothing ever happens for you and you will be crushed like a bug
>>531574236>it's the harsh truth and deep inside you know it>if I think it, that means we both think it and you're being mendacious if you pretend to disagreeNigger, don't start with this false consciousness bullshit.
>>531576266Come 1v1 me bitch. I'll snap you like a twig :DD
>>531574236Why would Russia want to govern over the butthurt belt? It's nothing but problems. Only reason they are in Ukraine now is because they were just straight up killing Russians and shelling Russian cities in donbass and to keep nato out of the main vector of invasion every European army has used to attack Russia
>>531574236Technically, most of Czechoslovakia was liberated by Ukrainian batallions of red army with help of Czechoslovak batallions and partysans and help of Romanian and Polish armies, minority was liberated by US army. None of it was liberated by 'Russians'
>>531576000Lend lease was payed by Russia alone by the way, after USSR dessolution mostly. It was paused during the Cold War but Putin later on payed everything. So all the butthurt shits owe Russia money. They didn‘t spend a single cent on lend lease. Plus they have to pay for all their infrastructure and commieblocks from which they comfortably post their russophobic stuff. Beside from that those countries bring nothing, it only made sense to bother with that due to the ideas of the world proletariat revolution, but it has been cancelled. The most prosperous times for the butthurt belt throughout history were always europe-russia active trade. Baltic ports are the result of that, but now it is cancelled as well. So they can get back to fishing or cleaning toilets in UK.
>>531574236Lost power lost the right, simple as
100% trueOnly it's about what we get in return.Once we got rid of the shitholes like Estonia, Poland, Ukraine and others, we can at least afford food rather than feeding these shitholes.
>>531576381>we are akshually victims>you owe us money for bombing you and then stacking industrialized slaves in concrete boxes>what resources did we extract? you still owe us!!!>also we never want our diaspora back, let them forever act as 5th columns, useful idiots
>>531574236>BRAAAAAAAP
>>531575052>>531576240We're gonna hard default all the government debt
>>531576240No I got into even the anti racist socialist leadership and they’re very conservative on immigration now and everywhere else i go they won’t talk about immigration unless they seize power and sell out like the right always does.. i never touched the ruling party democratic socialism isnt going anywhereim working to expand democracy with a third position party which will reflect in all parties in the coming decades and we can hopefully get a conservative wing of socialists to represent the working class then it’s smooth sailing for us
>>531574236>fair and squareNo at the end of the war Stalin just said gimme dat and the allies did.
>>531574236kek Krauts really tolerate vatniggers in their country like close the fucking borders for them it's that easy. imagine having ability to do so and not doing it.
>>531576537well you are right now in the commieblocn built by the diaspora. If you don‘t want to take care of people who live in your country for generations and contributed everything may be its a good idea to give those places independence. Since you can‘t into multiculturalism.
>>531574236Just go back to /chug/, HIVan.
>>531576606But what Georgia is going to do without russia, whom are are you going to sell your stuff? I have never seen Georgian wine in Europe lol, why is that?
>>531576584>im working to expand democracy with a third position party which will reflect in all parties in the coming decades and we can hopefully get a conservative wing of socialists to represent the working class then it’s smooth sailing for usthat is called nazbol, actually nazbol could save literally every problem the west is facing.if they were to remove womens rights too this could save the white race
>>531576699>But what Georgia is going to do without russiabecome a superpower and prosperous country
>>531576622>contributedLiterally everything was a downgrade. Everyone was trying to get out from the eastern bloc, not in lol
>>531576189what is it with tiblas and inserting stuff into mens asses?
>>531576729no i work with women. party leaders are women. never going to happen. not here. i don’t want that either.
>>531576731Why haven‘t it become one yet? I guess not even close to even becoming civilized on the level it was during USSR. Pretty much a shithole nowdays. No education, no growing industry, everything they have is like from 40 years ago.
i want powerful women. warfighters and shieldmaidens.
>>531574518> touching my human essence
>>531576743IDF still does that. Cheka/KGB, all that was full of sadistic kikes. Like Felix Dzerzhinsky. In Estonia there was one such yid called Idel Jakobson
>>531576699nobody cares snow jigaboo. imagine thinking anyone cares about that when there is significantly bigger issue with your existence.
>>531576736But enjoy, why discriminating people? You are asking for separatism yourself. Nobody wants to live in estonia, those people were just born there. Unfortunately there are many estonians born in Russia with russian passports, no one discriminating them on ethnicsl grounds. Why can‘t you do the same?
>>531576803because you are controlling them. fuck off and leave georgia. they're still better than russia, though
>>531576622>Since you can‘t into multiculturalism.Neither could the soviets and the russofication agenda.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_of_the_Ingrian_Finns(((Russian))) colonization has genocided many ethnic groups.
>>531576938All the post USSR countries are shit nowdays not because of Russia, but because they are retarded. At some point you have to admit it, otherwise nothing will improve. What kind of opportunities Georgia lacks? How russia prevents them from developing industry and education? They are not sanctioned or something.
>>531576924Nobody is discriminating Russians lol. Learn the local language, don't chimp out. Basic rules to follow.
>>531574236Why are germans such kikeslaves?
>>531577131>germansit's obviously a ruspoop
>>531577106Russia is one of the worst examples of oligarchy in the world that proudly waves the flag of the white army. How are they even remotely related to the USSR. In fact the same happened everywhere when it fell few people became billionaires overnight and power exploded
>>531574236They can't even get through ukraine without losing 2 million men and a shit ton of hardware.. Russia has no manpower or resources left so i'd love to see them try. If all of those countries actually decided to invade russia tomorrow.. russia would seize to exist, let's be real here.
>>531574236Russia cant and wont do shit, they cant even beat fucking ukraineKeep dreaming vlad
>>531574236All russia has to do is be an awesome country that everyone wants to be a part of and theyll want to join russia. But russia is a shithole that even russians dont want to live in so what do you expect,retard?
>>531577251the elites don’t care about russians they care only about expanding and preserving their power it is a total disaster
No one who had dealings with Russia wants anything to do with them, they all split for a reason.
>having elites in the first place instead of being powerful members of society with responsibilityNGMI
>>531577366The kikes(elites) are destabilizing the world because they know their time is up.
>>531574236/pol/ would understand and discuss war better if Just War Theory was required reading, but that doesn't really matter to anyone who's just here to achieve a propaganda victory. Putin clearly views the west as an existential threat to his nation, particularly the United States that has open plans to balkanise Russia into a couple dozen different tiny "democratic" nation states. NATO had been encroaching closer and closer for years, but the hostile policy towards Russia never changed, therefore he has a perfectly valid Casus Belli to wage war to preserve the existence of his state above and beyond any rights to territory previously held by a dead political entity.The big complaint is that this is pre-emptive action, and those on our side of the fence consider Putin's actions unjustified simply because there hadn't yet been a declaration of war. As if encirclement and hostile policy doesn't count as proof of intention. Again though this doesn't matter to people who are here for propaganda reasons, painting your enemy as unsympathetic is not unexpected in a time of war.In any case, I don't think right to conquest makes a war moral because conquest alone is not moral, or everybody would be getting into wars nonstop over territory claims both real and imagined. What's important is whether the Casus Belli is moral, and it usually is once war becomes the last resort. Russia doesn't want NATO on its doorstep, NATO insists on being on Russia's doorstep, therefore war against Ukraine was justified to prevent it from joining NATO once there was sufficient assurance of intent to join.All of this fucking sucks, because it ultimately stems from cold war era warhawks in the US hellbent on ruling the world. The world turned into a pain engine because of a cohort of geriatrics who won't have to live to see the consequences of their warmongering.
>>531574236No, the Allied coalition conquered it and a part of the deal were post-war borders of the area. If the Soviets didn't agree to the deal they wouldn't have received so much material support and would have stalemated further East.And in case you wonder, we don't give a shit about your kraut "support" either kek. In international politics no one does anything out of sympathy for other nations.
>>531577475No one even cares about the justification, Russia is a shithole who cant even defeat ukraineGive up the propaganda slop, it doesnt even matter anymore, you lost
>>531577475Maybe if Russia stopped invading all its neighbours, then these countries wouldn't want to join NATO in the first place
>>531574236albania is chinese clay, not russia's
>>531574236Least cucked modern German
>>531575176Can we increase that number? I don't like the idea of being the last blonde hair and blue eyed child in my family line with a stout skull shape.
>>531574236We conquered russia, you know that denis? Yeah you know that. Even had an established government in moscow for a while.
>>531574236Except for the fact that those countries are now sovereign States with their own cultural and legal borders. Plus, the USSR is not Russia (at least that's Putin's excuse for lashing out against NATO) and they already agreed diplomatically to leave those territories be sovereign.>inb4 "international law doesn't exist trololol diplomacy is woke jajaja MIGHT MAKES RIGHT"1. African nations never quite understood diplomacy and have spent millenia fighting each other for land and resources.2. Russia tried to pretend that international law and diplomacy are for the le weak and now they're stuck in a pathetic stalemate that has costes over 1 million lives for nothing.3. Israelis never had any respect for international law or diplomacy when it doesn't benefit them and the result has been endless wars in the Middle East and worldwide terorrism. 4. The USA claimed that international law and diplomacy were "le woke" before attacking Iran and now they're stuck in another retarded war that will bring the entire world down with them.War doesn't benefit anyone and disregarding diplomacy and international law only causes retarded wars that hurt everyone. Fuck you /pol/ you were wrong.
>>531577449And they would be insignificant if we expanded power to the working class which btw we can’t let economic power get in the way of true freedom and democracy.
>>531578005They own the monetary debt system and they're working it overtime to create more inflation, global debt and uncertainty. The working class is dumbed down, look how many people got coerced into taking a vaccine that really didn't do anything for them.. it was a game of control, and the working class proved how fearful they are of losing the scraps that the kikes give them.
>>531578005B-b-but muh based communist china wouldn't cooperate in a global psyop for universal authoritarianism.
>>531577867War would be exceedingly rare or nonexistent if the working class had power over the elites. Any country engaged in war anywhere should be met with skepticism.
>>531578362>if the working class had powerit wouldn't be the working class.You need hegelian dialectics religion to defy normal logic kek.
>>531577792you conquered Russia when it had no government and then Russians rebelled and kicked your pretender out
