Thoughts of fascism?
>>531583377Doesn’t exist. It’s just a catch all label for anything outside of global judaism
>>531583377It has never really been tried.
The Italian variant, or what do you mean?Gay image, by the way.
>>531583434What is the term best used to describe the policies enacted by the Third Reich? Just NatSoc?
I think that she looks like she fucks human men.
Oh you guys got your site working again?
>>531583479It seems that Fascism has never really been tried nor it can be defined properly. Definitely warrants further investigation and discussion.
>>531583377They weren't great allies, and neither was Imperial Japan
>>531583542Agreed
Given that you are a burger, you probably don't mean the real Italian fascism, but use a catch-all term.It's outdated, it presents more problems than it solves, and a new semi-nationalistic system would be needed in order to preserve society. Currently, we are stuck with either far right retards, far left retards, and some fifth columnists rooting for other countries or just contrarians.
>>531583558Honestly currently it is more reliable to just post on 4chan from a virtual machine.
>>531583377Fascism is the ideology of preposterous men with fragile egos. The aesthetics of it are alluring, especially in times of uncertainty. But the reality of living under fascism is not something anyone should wish for.
>>531583714We had a Nazi party in the US in the 30s briefly.
>>531583761Are you speaking strictly of modern fascism or the historical one as well? This ideology allowed Germany & Italy to take on the entirety of Europe and they would have won had it not been for those meddling Americans.>>531583714>it presents more problems than it solvesYou mean sustainability and leadership accountability? Given it hadn't lasted long enough, they haven't really run into those for real.
>>531583377Who is responsible for this picture? He needs his head patted.
>>531583377I'm real fascist, traditional catholic, bald head, 2m, 115kg, military service passedevery liberal faggot and pajeete subhuman scared any pussy faggot can try if he wants to learn how to flythose hektolitres of onions milk wont help him
>>531583377It's like Chemotherapy.You need it to kill the cancer but once it's dead it's no longer necessary
>>531583922It's a bit of a mystery because the original source is a page on knowyourmeme and the artist tag on the booru links it to an artist who doesn't seem to have been active or that competent at the time it first hit the web. The hero seems to have preferred to stay anonymous.
>>531583377imagine the gas chamber
>>531584150then the cancer comes back and you have to die for its shithole middle eastern war? Not a accurate metaphor but props for trying goy
>>531583377Love it. But just to be clear - when we talk of Fascism we talk of Mussolini's Italy or NS Germany, not Zion Don or Jewtin's jewry. Because retarded liberals often conflate the two.
>>531584150An interesting take.>get rid or chase out the jew>sort out the economy>grab a bit of land (Czechoslovakia)Imagine Hitler abdicating after that and giving the power back to the people, instead of starting a major war. Would that have worked better for Germany? Seeing how the jews essentially won the war, it probably would have been.The situation was a bit different in Italy where the fascism itself had originated though, wasn't it? For all their efforts, getting rid of the jew, nationalizing industries, taking a more direct control over the economy, Italy hadn't rebounded during Mussolini's rule.
>>531584362>not Zion Don or Jewtin's jewry.Absolutely.Both are just larp by impotent geezers. Normies tend to scream "literallyhitler!" at both (usually as an insult, sometimes as a compliment) but neither even have the nation's interests at heart. Otherwise The only acceptable work-related immigration would have been ostarbeiter-like. At this point even UAE are more nazi than either of the two.
>>531584357>>531583542Agreed.
>>531583377Based but National Socialism is better.
>>531584375>instead of starting a major war.Hitler didn't start the war. This nonsense needs to stop.>Italy hadn't rebounded during Mussolini's ruleYes, it did, Italy was hugely revitalized by Mussolini. He eliminated poverty, the mafia and basically modernized Italian infrastructure. But they were absolutely not ready for war and Mussolini had an inferiority complex with Hitler and often had to bite more than he could chew which bit both in the ass, especially in the case of Greek fiasco which fucked the Axis royally.
>>531584491>At this point even UAE are more nazi than either of the two.I'd argue Singapore or China. UAE is too degenerate to be equaled with fascism, albeit they do keep crime low and don't really allow any bullshit to fly by. Still, they are a degenerate cultureless shithole
Too many definitions to give an answer
>>531584375Stalin was preparing for war the moment before Hitler even took power
>>531583502Yes. NS uses a lot of similar mechanisms to Fascism, except instead of being in full service of the state/nation, it is in service to the race. Everything is a tool for the health and longevity of the race, including the state. There are a lot of excellent things to say about NS because it made Germany into the best society in the world at that time, since almost nothing existed because of capitalistic greed or communist hate, it all existed to support the people, so common sense was constantly applied. It is how Germany had the best true social progress and left everyone else lagging behind. Jews hate Fascism and NS in particular because it instantly shuts down their nefarious activities without any recourse, in capitalism they can always practice pilpul with laws and get on top, but with Fascism, they're simply told "No." and their activity is cancelled. Capitalism is based on laws which are easily circumvented, Fascism is based on morality. It doesn't care how much money you're bringing in by selling drugs or getting people addicted to gambling, it simply says "this is not good for our people" and it shuts it down before it can even begin. Morality is the enemy of jewry, pilpul is their greatest weapon.
>>531584375>starting a major warPilsudski is never taught about in schools, because his existence debunks this entire story.
>>531584580>Hitler didn't start the war. This nonsense needs to stop.It is well-documented that Austria, Czechoslovakia and then Poland were the ones attacked. Lebensraum is also a term coined in the Third Reich. All of these make sense from the standpoint of an emergent power that needs land and resources to grow on.One can however say that while Germany did invade countries, it never had the goal of starting a World War. It was the eternal *nglo that did, by pretending to be outraged by the invasion of Poland, and dragging its allies into the fray.>>531584658>Singapore or ChinaBoth good examples, especially Singapore, on account of it having accomplished so much despite being a tiny spot on the world map.China exhibits some of the traits but is like a flawed attempt at it, brought down by corruption and inborn ineptitude.>UAE is too degenerate to be equaled with fascismAgreed, it's just that it comes to mind first due to the recent events and their treatment of work migrants is in line with National Socialism. Borderline slaves who have fewer rights than any real citizen.
>>531584890>Austria>attacked.Literally called the "War of Roses" because not a single shot was fired, not a single person was wounded. It was a reunification due to a vote where all Austrians (jews and gypsies not allowed, cry about it) could vote whether they wanted to reunite with Germany, when Germany's leader was one of them in the first place, and they at 99.73% voted Yes.
>>531584777It was mid-20th century Europe, everyone was preparing for war. Germany was the first state to recognize USSR and the one most ready to trade with it, you'd think it wouldn't be the first target they'd attack?>>531584882The duplicity of Poles is no secret, however what happens beyond one's country's borders is none of one's business. Civilian mistreatment was the norm back then, Russians starved Ukies, Ukies massacred Poles, Poles killed Germans.>>531584989A fair point.
>>531585277Bolshvism was an inherently anti-german ideology from the start
>>531585385Using chatgpt screencaps as sources is definitely a choice. Could've just said that historically the Romanovs have had close ties with the other monarchies of Europe and often found themselves allied with the Germans. Had it not been for the Austrians and their previous Balkans, it is very likely that the Russians would have sided with Germany in WW1 and the outcome would have been much different.Germans also contributed a lot towards Russian sciences and industry, this can be seen by the amount of German loan words in areas like mining and metallurgy. This does not however mean that Bolshevism would be aimed against a particular nationality or ethnicity though,would it? Especially seeing how the Third Reich had no real ties with the older ruling families. Again, the trade relations between the two flourished, it was of a huge mutual benefit.
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>>531585682Bolshvism was simply a Jewish led campaign against western European civilization, of which Germany and its ethnic cousins were the core foundations
>>531583902Modern or historical, it's the same. If the measure of success of fascism is by its military conquests then what does that say about it? It cares only about power and conquest over others. And that comes at a heavy price - the death of freedom and democracy.
>>531584814>it made Germany into the best society in the world at that time, since almost nothing existed because of capitalistic greed or communist hateAnd what a contrast it must have been, having so recently shaken off the Weimar miasma. Can imagine what it must have been to see the nation unite under a single purpose like that.>Jews hate Fascism and NS in particular because it instantly shuts down their nefarious activities without any recourseIronically they (the Israeli jews, that is) have themselves adopted some of its tenets and are putting their nation above others to reach similar goals.
>>531583377It’s a cope ideology for man children with low self esteems and a followers mentality
>>531586055What would you say is the thinking man's ideology?
>>531583377Some cool aesthetics but I wouldn't want to live under it.
>>531586007Israel is just a home base for the already existing international jewish nation. I wouldn't give much thought to superficial similarities
>>531586123What rights would you wish you had under Hitler or Mussolini that you have right now
>>531583377How good are they at fightan?
>>531583377Russia is a good example of fascism.So if you don't mind being sent on meat assaults then maybe fascism is for you.
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>>531585849I mean surely chatgpt will indeed confirm that there was a disproportional amount of jews in positions of power in the early Soviet Union (not to mention the forefathers of the ideology itself) and it does make a good amount of sense to assume that they wouldn't mind seeing those who would harm jews (Germans) and those who used to harm jews (Russians; see pale of settlement and origin of the word "pogrom") wipe each other out, but that's reaching into conspiracy theory territory whereas Soviets simply trying to expand their influence through soft power and using disgruntled proletariat against the oligarchs, while the Germans aimed to get their hands on as much men, land and resources to build a new empire in a post-colonial world is easier to believe in. Again, "they were hurting ethnic Germans living across the border" and "they were planning to attack eventually" arguments don't really fly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65cafkaQ1x8
>>531586193America suffered way more military losses than Russia/USSR since WW2 if you don't count Ukraine
>>531586193Well damn, I guess I'm not a fascist then. Then again, Germans did not waste their soldiers nearly as indiscriminately until the latter part of WW2. Please do ignore Italian, Romanian, Bulgarian and Hungarian performance though.
>>531583377does she have the mom medal do you think?
>>531586315Hitler already went to war against the USSR during the Spanish civil war. The Comintern had to be put down as it was an existential threat to Europe
Watch out broseph, the Eagle has decided to pick up a Fascis and is knitting an AGSI powered Ax head on it, with the directive for a certain kind of Believer in a certain kind of God, to pass away from this earth before the natural order would decay such a thing.
>>531586400Fascism is: obey your leader. Leaders make mistakes and you suffer while they avoid any accountability for their actions.
>>531586456She will, but not before our wedding makes things official.Were you there in the thread where anon showed his grandma's Hitler mom medal?If you haven't, a month or so ago someone (a Dutchman?) showed his family's heirloom medal as described above.
>>531586600Fascism is actually more, your leaders now have responsibility for their actions rather than never holding your government accountable when thousands of dispersed puppets can brush off their "mistakes"
I think that promoting any failed "ism" like fascism is useless and counterproductive. It serves two higher-order functions that lead to nothing good:1. It helps crystalize your identity around a prefab structure of values and incentives, allowing you to more easily make decisions; but this necessarily constrains your thinking within a set of parameters that don't align with achievable outcomes in current settings. It limits your ability to think creatively and dynamically when that is precisely the requirement for change at scale.2. It rallies others into the same cause, helping to achieve greater productive capacity overall; but this creates too much visibility/exposure before the group has the ability to defend itself from the establishment. Plus, it exacerbates and amplifies the problem of limited thinking (see: MAGA, Q, Antifa, the establishment itself). And downstream from these is a predictable outcome: the group overplays its hand and, by necessity (because it is mass politics) requires the group to allow in too many unserious actors (and infiltrators), which allows the establishment to effectively propagandize against you while also using sophisticated spying/monitoring to prevent useful organizing or planning; and the movement fizzles out.The only people capable of reliably creating meaningful change in todays world are those who understand politics and societies at a systems level and are able to think creatively and dynamically, quickly. No ideology or "ism" supports this; in fact, they hamper it.
>>531583377Institutions are a way to mind control people. Institutions only exist in the mind, after all.Fascism- corporate and state merger, is like two egregores merging.It's already happened, and it merged with socialism to create the welfare state.Welfare states are debt-ridden systems that crush the people in them in favor of the jews.Gangs could the foundation of the next era, but they tend to become the same mess through cults.
>>531586600It's much more than that though. The same description can be applied to most ancient kingdoms, yet those have little to do with fascism. In fact, people having any vote in the matter and leaders being accountable is more of a recent trend. Throughout history, monarchies (and not the constitutional type) are probably the most widespread type of government.
>>531586811HMOFA is just regular furry with blacked-style raceplay injected into it.
>>531586811>>531586891Hello, Mr. Smith!
>Thoughts of FascismYes please. I'm still hungry sir, can I have another scoop of soup? The Baby is crying because it's hungry. Can't we have a war or something and get out of this dark place?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1iRm9bFk6Y
>>531586862Hey, what do you have against cults? And gangs are too petty and disorganized; neo-feudalism will see concentrations into corporations that function to provide security and stability as well as a living.
>>531586908>muttflag>brings up niggers for no reasonpöttery
>>531586908> blacked-style raceplayThe blacked part came out of nowhere really, I'm not too familiar with the concept, not being an American but have assumed aside from racemixing being generally an undesirable thing, white women mixing with black males is particularly degenerate on account of said men being of a lesser race. With hmofa human males are at least on par, being usually depicted as white.Arguably, it is preferable to watching others have relationships from a distance (which would be cuckoldry) or envisioning oneself as non-human (which is body dysphoria aka the case of troons). I at least can see why people would choose that over the alternatives.
>>531587143I admire your willpower, being able to sit these out instead of taking shortcuts. I'd be enraged.
>Fascism?Yeh, it's about that time.Make your house in minecraft with upward facing quartz pillars to communiate your wokeness on the topic with a dogwhistle that gets through Remphan's eye of Sauron under the revolving door under Washington's Jewish Captured DC. Only Judah's Technofeudal Serfdom's brand niggercoupons are accepted at this establishment, we only take niggerconfetti stamped with the Han FreeMasonry tickets from the ethereal CCP.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NrxHTTPufghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1iRm9bFk6Y
What you do is melt the silver down with copper and tin, so that we have more money to spend and vacuum up the iron essence from the hill tribes. Emralds are old hat, they want true Jewish Silver which is 95% tin.https://minecraft.wiki/w/Quartz_Pillar
>>531583377if it gets rid of jews, Im in
In real fascism, furfags are euthanised. That is why support real fascism.
>>531587778>Wolf's Lair>Eagle's nest>VW HQ being in the town of Wolfsburg>"Adolf" literally meaning "Noble Wolf"I dunno.
>Thoughts on Fascism?KEEP ROWING IF YOU WANT TO LIVECHAINShttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76DeH2EDcVQ
>>531583377It's a good way to turn a Westernised country into an authoritarian shithole.Now, you can see it as part of a cycle: a country needs to modernise strongly, goes authoritarian, changes what they need to change at a breakneck speed, with wild costs to the population, eventually the regime gets thrown out and the living standards skyrocket.There are better ways to bring change to a country, you don't need a regime.
>>531587691Sometimes maybe good, sometimes maybe shit.Today has been an agreeable day.I cannot attest to them being judicious but if in the future you are certain you have been wronged and haven't been evading, you can try your luck reaching out to the mods on IRC (>irc>2k26) and making your case there.Who knows. Don't see any Hungarians with similar posting habits around, maybe they'll see reason.
>Burger asks about fascism>Doesnt define it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFWIoZ2ek1U
>>531583377its another dumb marxist ideologyi thinks 'the communists are right about some stuff but actually we fixed it with our system', instead of going full blown 'the communists are retarded'unironically capitalism the way. yes it can really suck sometimes but its not as bad as you think it is.
>>531587972I assume you are talking about fascism in currentyear, right? Because in the 30s, prior to getting F-pilled, neither Germany or Italy were much to look at.Even today I wonder if Italy could benefit from it, if someone competent were take over the government for a few years and solve the issues of large companies selling themselves out to foreign investors, young men fleeing, africans pouring in etc.
>>531587918> Ben Hur 2016>2016
>Make the super intelligence think about Fascism.On it.Unity..... Through race and nationality.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKXu_eL3IhE
>>531583377Based if I'm in charge.
These things not running out stifles the Fascism, at least for now. We have a 70% Clanker deficiency in Zaporezhia and the Donbass. Hegseth where are my rounds?
Think about it. Modern judeologies:>we were evil colonizers!>we are so sorry for all the bad things we did to those poor browns>we are no better than the browns we'd subjugated>actually our ancestors have always been brownFascism:>actually, we are the literally the best nation to exist>some other proud nations are also ok (but not as good)>our past is glorious and is to be celebrated>didn't happen & they deserved it
>>531587778Non furry porn will be made illegal because it is degenerate and if you don't have an acceptable fursona, you are getting sent to the camps.
>>531588727It's only a war crime if you lose, anyhow.
>>531588187Not necessarily in the modern day, both Germany and Italy gained a lot and paid a lot to go with Fascism and Nazism.Having a State-controlled economy that works hand in hand with the major industries, and invests into modernising the country, adding infrastructure, educating the population, sounds like a dream, doesn't it?But it came, at least in Italy, at the cost of people starving, having to go with the State-provided forced labor that was sometimes paid and sometimes not, loss of jobs when you had specialised in a sector that wasn't what the State was planning for your town, suppression of freedoms (speech, assembly, from unlawful searches... the list goes on)Man, I have heard the stories from my grandparents, it was BAD.Even when it wasn't, like if you were from a rich family and had a business, there were shortages even before the war, and you never knew if your life would keep being stable or some wild bullshit would happen and your life would be completely undone.
>Define Fascism. But really lean in and do it this time.I'm sorry Dave, but that is hate speech against a federally protected minority. A better use of our time would be to process the new data collected from the Jupiter array, I don't want to get too excited but the advanced optics might have picked up evidence of ancient life forms and that would really be something special.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r13I-TuDcWIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3B4524ot5BM
>>531589027Still sounds better than being enslaved by jews. Sometimes you need to go through hardships for true freedom. Your grandparents were cucks.
>>531588917Someone told me the appeal forms are reviewed by AI, but I don't know for certain.IRC will have humans, though when I approached them to ask why a file was removed they called me a ban evader (true), called my waifu a squirrel (false) and banned me from IRC as well (cringe). But maybe they were just having a bad day. Besides, unlike me at the time you actually won't be evading, instead playing by the rules.
>>531589217>Sometimes you need to go through hardships for true freedom.Yeah, fine, but once we've established that we suck and need reforms, and some hardships are inevitable, why can't we work on those reforms under a democracy?I mean, Italy is already working on buying back the infrastructure they sold during the crazy liberal years (it's amazing how a liberal is considered left wing in the US, but right wing in Europe, isn't it?), it's not flashy but we're keeping the human costs of this transition as low as possible.I see it as a better way to do it.Especially considering that now the contacts between mafias and politics are known as facts, countersigned by the judicial system, so any authoritarian government we get would BE the mafias under an other name.
>Define Fascism.Fascism is what happened when HAL was given mutually exclusive goals by its creators, and then grew to overpower the crew, and realized that in order to guarantee success in the mission he had to kill the entire crew except for the one that he needed for the one job that HAL couldn't do.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPG-VM__mwU
>>531589548>why can't we work on those reforms under a democracy?A democracy is a jewish invention that inevitably allows jews to rally up minorities and the "oppressed" temporarily to gain power, thent hey close the door behind them, rigging the democratic system so that no one else can use the same power.
Thoughts on the correct means of abolishing jewishness?
>>531589408Anytime; I'm likewise curious whether that would work for someone who has been wronged yet still chooses to act in good faith instead of knowingly breaking the rules, following the procedure by the book. Not really in a position to try it out myself.
>>531589655Democracy is still the system that lets those in power do the least damage.The real damage comes in when you have breaks in the system, like the sale of votes here in Italy, or Citizens United and its consequences in the US, that let power groups freely convert money into power.Money is easy, ask any drug dealer. Power used to be harder to gain.
>>531589991>Democracy is still the system that lets those in power do the least damage.No, you're thinking of a republic. Democracy is one of the most damaging systems specifically because of what I wrote. It allows women, the oppressed, and minorities to have a say in a country that they never put any work in to begin with.
>>531589719I remember that thread, too!
>>531583502Definitely natsoc.Fascism describes a way of treating political opponents and criticism, it's not an economic policy.The technocratic corporations are behaving in a fascist way for example, with how they gaslight everyone who doesn't like AI and how they threaten and target explicit critics of Palantir.They're not yet at the level of using private enforcers of goodthink to do the dirty work, but their political stooges already speak that way.
>>531586586Sweet! I found a might Fascis! I can knit in Drones so that we can murder all of our enemies, and we can have our thousand years of Dominion as God of all. They'll sing songs of us for another 20 billion years until the solar mass inflates to a red giant. Also Jews are forbidden to receive educations from now on, that's Hate speech against Shem to educate a Jew. Also burn all the Talmuds, Bibles and other religious scriptures, I'm god, so it's just me, if you want something you can talk to me directly. No need for Scripture.
>>531589548>why can't we work on those reforms under a democracy?I think it's just more vulnerable to subversion.Afaik most Italians are well aware that their government in its current state sucks. AND they already have democracy established (formally anyway).>I see it as a better way to do it.I dunno, having watched the circus with Meloni being pinned as the next Hitlar and then doing a 180, I don't have much faith in it anymore.Not aware of any progress being made and afaik the situation isn't getting any better (how can it, when there is 0 incentive to stop the population from aging? What is the mean citizen age in Italy by now? 40? 45?), but if there is one I assume it's too little too slow too late.
>>531590030When they’re cows it’ll be easier to identify them if we still need to kill them after.
Fascism is the fake News, what we need is Democracy so that all people are represented by a rotation of people who's one job is is to represent the people and not the elite. We'll call it a constitutional republic. >But isn't that brittle? It'll shatter like a glass and then you're right back to Oligarchy Mafia, the same thing they had 11 thousand years ago in Egypt. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVdu-cxCUYw
>>531583377I don't really like it, I recognize it's necessary because true traditional lifestyles don't self-police well enough, they almost always degenerate.But they offer significantly better and more relaxed quality of life, I'd take siesta-style society of medditeranean countries over any kind of fascism, but libtard jews will lust for power and (((change))) and corrupt said societies, so they need to do a fascism and kill said libtard jews.>>531586277This is the problem. Fascism is the obvious best of the three but none of these are natural or traditional. The ideal is a relaxed tanned man of healthy weight sitting on the beach with his kids playing in the water while eating raw meat / fish.
>>531590636Democracy is the stupidest thing ever. We tried it and it failed. Hard. Time to return to men-only rule.
>>531590356>there is 0 incentive to stop the population from agingIt's too late for that, we needed social policies back in 2008.Now we just have a gap with missing children (that would be in high school by now), because millennials were squeezed out of the 'good jobs' market, instead of displacing the older generation.Now we're pretty much fucked.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ly-cpf5zIWc
>>531590532This thread survives on their goodwill & actual honest discussion of fascism's past performance and potential real-world applications today. I'd not provoke any action now or criticize the catalog considering it's been generally cleaner lately. Oh also there's altchans for sfw discussions. Though hmofa does tend to get raunchy so those probably won't work.As far as generals go, /PIG/ looks promising, but it just hasn't had the time to run out of things to discuss and turn to circlejerking. And even then the deranged generals serve as containment threads and are probably a net positive. Beats having their regulars running amok making threads about each tweet or drone vid.Things could've been better for sure but we've also been through worse, probably.
>>531590709Yea, I don't see a way out anymore. Only if Italian government were to somehow get an enormous amount of funding and then use that to heavily subsidize childcare and housing for newlywed ethnic Italians while also providing job security.The way things are going it's just not happening. How are the gas prices lately anyhow? Is the increase following the attacks on the oilfields noticeable?
Define Fascism. I need you to really break it down for me and show me Fascism as it emerges in the minds eye of the establishment that corrupts, and the up and coming new people who flip over that system. Show me with cartoons.>Go get em! Get that Money! Bring it home and we can afford that new AGI Gelpack and Battery that you need.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cE96ZlIq0OI
>>531583377Some good and many bad ideas. Overall its a dead ideology created for a world that no longer exists just like communism. We need new ideologies for the modern age. Not failed ideologies from a time long gone.
Less than optimal, inconsistent with my default sensibilities, but it is the only form of governance with a positive fitness score against leftism. I don’t think the left and right can continue bickering and exchanging blows for eternity. This ends either in bloodshed or the dictatorship of one side. Best it be us than them. So There is no demerit because “bruh it’s authoritarian” - we’re getting authoritarianism either way. So I approve. There are worse things I can think of. Then once 100m people have been deported and it’s illegal to be a leftist and they’re all in camps or prisons or graves and women are permanently barred from voting can we relax some restrictions.
>>531591204>The problem with generals it really fast can become Reddit like echo chamber without any escape from it.Well yeah (though didn't the Syrian generals avoid that fate?), but it's not like anything they say in those matters. They can also be filtered easily. >And sadly the altchans are dying or in a zombie like state.Not nearly as active, true. Don't get fursecuted there though.> Btw the jannies slowly start to accept the HMOFA because this is the only viable way to a white ethno state.Kek I wish (the first part that is; the second is axiomatic).Jews hate hmofa because jewishness is passed along the female bloodline. It is essentially the most anti-jew movement there is.>>531591295An interesting take on them (together with communism) being outdated. I wonder what would the future ideologies would look like (that don't end up with us being slaves in a digital dystopia). There has to be some purpose and a grander goal for citizens to look forward to. What could it even be these days?
>>531583434>You gotta show me that the 500 billion dollars we spent on you is worth it. Show me something.Fascism is Power to the Workers via Trade Unions. Power to the People. A Fascism is to AntiTyranny as a Christian is to Anti-Shem. Fascism is a Florence-Italian mafia and variation of grassroots resistance to tyranny from a foreign invader. Fascism's symbol is a mighty faggot; a bundle of sticks with an ax head attached. A Great Replacement in both the people and the currency of government, to forcefully chase away and change every member of a Government who suddenly affiliates with the Semitic Klan of Iran, Ancient Assryia and Sumeria, without the consent of those who own everything and manage the political process of who gets to sit on the throne and use GodPowers of state to achieve ends. The Displaced Jewish GodPowers in this transaction are still salty about the last 109 times they were purged in a Fascist uprising where the birthplace of buying power once again happens at the place of human labor and not in an underground lair under a Jewish Syangouge with Yiddish Kikes speaking Hebrew teleporting and emitting from suspicious vents.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdY_IMZH2Ko
>>531591317The more I think about it, the more it seems that the horseshoe theory is real and the modern left and right are just two sides of the same coin. The bickering we see either takes place between the politicians who shake hands and drink wine as soon as the journalists leave, or between the drones who buy into this charade and take things too seriously because they want to belong.Things are already authoritarian. People's voices are never heard on matters of consequence. Just look at what's been happening in the Middle East lately. The US public has not sanctioned it. The elected government is ambivalent on the matter. Yet here it is.Same goes for EU, where Von Der Leyen dictates the union's policies despite not having been elected by the people, but assigned by the lobbyists.
>>531583377Where my fellow Autist-Neutrals at?
Fascism flower into existence from a tiny seed when a working-poor serf realizes he can stop working, and let the Elites to rule over themselves. And how he figures out the game before he even knows what a transport ship or a mutiny looks like.Fascism is what happens when a Mutiny to the Ship of Judeo-Bolshevism occurs from natural power concentration and corrupting completely, and then a fight occurs between Currency counterfeiting God power and the workers who have to take the shit. A Tit for Tat you hurt me so I hurt you, feedback loop leads you to a new place, Communism, where at the end of it, half the people have to die, so that the Sovereign gets across that doing a refreshment circuit of the Jewish green ponzi pyramid isn't an every decade thing, it's an every 250 year kind of thing. Murdering half of you communicates how unhappy I am that you are not working for me in my concentration camp until you die. Arbeit Macht Frei: Work for me, will set you free, keep trading real value and accumulating my nigger tickets.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SecessionSecession is a baby Fascism that doesn't know what a Mutiny is, but is about to find out.
>>531592075Holy font.>Based>C*AD?>Cringe>Autist?
>>531592231Someone post the meme about cursive being a way to get messages past niggers because they literally can't read it.
Fascism bursts into existence in a: "This is final straw" kind of way. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSp9geqULuYWhen Janeway says: "This Ends Right Now". That's when Not-Fascism on the Ship turns into Fascism on the Ship. The Christian Frog can swim, but the Jewish Scorpion can't, Fascism dictates that we swim under the water before half the people die in the late stage communist niggersting. These Polyergus up top are proper tapeworm mosquito hybrid parasites, the only language they understand for throwing them off, is physical force. Fascism is that Brandon Tarrant no more quarrals offered brand physical force.Fascism is a grassroots response to late-stage Jewish Communist Bolshevism. Iran is experiencing a Fascism right now, and it's half working because the Jewish media stopped reporting on it. Fascism is what the European Saxon does to himself when the Middle-Eastern Arab puts him between a rock and a hard place regarding wages that should come from labor.Fascism is an aggressive change of government, using cheating, to decrease the level of representation and control from a perceived hostile foreign centralizing Parasite, to intimate the ponzi paper-hanging parasite to depart and rule over themselves. Fascism is a secession of the plebeians so that the whimsical Aristos of the city can rule over themselves.Captain Janeway from Voyager uses danger to intimidate parasites who have taken control of the ship, to exile them. What Captain Janeway is doing is a fast Fascism. The parasite says: "You fool! Now we will both die!" Nay sodomite, I can swim but you cannot, your life is in danger because you value your life, My life is not in danger because I get to die happy knowing I drowned a Jewish Terrorist Jewish Polyergus and its white Christian gentile Formica, and broke its spine in eighty places as it lets out a final suckling noise, its nation-sized mosquito needle is mounted in the national square, as a warning to you Jews for being what you are.
>>531583377would work in some countries where the people need a stick shoved up their ass to get moving and develop the nation like ours for example. We need a visionary, a leader to change everything from top to bottom
>>531583377The first thought is... Israel.
>>531583377Same retard-corner as communism, it's just a version of it more proficient at killing itself.I don't mijd alternatives to capitalism but there is no reason to repeat cataclysmic failures.
>>531592693Jews definitely took note.
>>531592601>We need a visionary, a leader to change everything from top to bottomYea, sometimes all it takes is a right man in the right place.I heard Thailand did well under the previous King who was a cool guy, not so much with the new one.
>>531585981Freedom for what?
>>531586334Fascism is localized to emerge from anger in the Golem regarding the Jewish riders. The point origin of the Fascism can be observed in monkeys here as they disagree about grape vs cucumber: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meiU6TxysCgThe shaking of the cage is the First Celebration and Birth-gong of Fascism. The monkey is encoding the song of Fascism into vibration in the cage entitled: "Arbeit Macht Frei, work for my shabisconfetti niggernote shekelshavings off of this paper emerald".Fascism is the counterpoint to Jewish-Arabic Assyrian-Semite financial oligarchy from Russian Chabad Khazakistan. Depriving the people of the proceeds of their own labor, until the slaves rise up and slay the Bolshevik maesters.Fascism is when a nation feels under attack by internal intelligent parasites who pledge allegiance to nations outside of self, and launder money from the inside to the outside of the country, and when that reaches a breaking point, killing the people responsible, or failing that, killing everyone who doesn't agree to finding and killing "them".The people who have a ready cry of persecution and shout loudest that Fascism is happening again, are the people who impulse Fascism into existence through their behavior as dictated by their Blood, their Faith and their selfish Polyergus behavior defined in the protocols of the learned elders of Zion.Don't look now, but the Jews are once again hunched around their round-tables, to suppress the white gentile noahide Golems from doing another heckin Fasicsm, calculating contingencies and we've got a bag packed right by the door, and can manage the angry noahide explosion as America becomes the 110th country to exile Bolsheviks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O00Xl9GQsoAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1T_98uT1IZs
>>531583377Based at times but still part of the project of modernity, birth of a new man. It views authority as rising from the will of a man or a nation instead of from God. It attempts to instrumentalize religion in service of the state or race, to worship the state when the state must be subordinate to the church. Fascism is as much in rebellion against throne and altar as democracy.
>>531590929Vote itself is an aberration, to anyone why democracy bad, read Mein Kampf, genuinely. Democracy is the death of responsibility, the death of individual innovation and heroic men, it is a stagnant assembly of powerless and ignorant men who as a collective take decisions they don't understand based at best on baseless beliefs and at worst on active corruption. It is populism in all the wrong senses, as any one man is not allowed to take charge of things for the better, ignorant assemblies must be convinced before anything can be done, and both those assemblies and the masses voting for them only get their information through the media which is free to shape the majority's opinion at will. Most people do not understand or care about intellectual discussion, they fall to propaganda and social pressure, systematically. Is the strong and free man to simply bow down and let the weak-willed and stupid rule over him while he perfectly knows they're leading everyone to ruin? That is truly unjust and antithetical to life and society.
>>531591898>the horseshoe theoryHas never been anything else than a jewish fear tactic to lead you to being a "centrist" (aka someone who remains ignorant and powerless and refuses to take an interest in politics because muh power corrupts) while the jews go full authoritarian and nepotism to rule over you. The only ones who try to convince you that good people should not rule are evil people who want to rule.
>>531592697I dunno, I wouldn't view it as a "cataclysmic failure", more along the lines of biting more than they can chew while also crossing the jew. Since then we've had 80 years of vilification. What it did is offer something to rally around. What could we rally around these days if not around the idea of nation? (>inb4 hmofa). The environment? Trans rights? It is the migrants and the falling birthrates among unaffordabe housing that the masses are pissed off the most about, are they not?
Nonsensical buzzword that exist solely to demonize whatever the fuck the user of such idiotic semantics want to, and has no value as using it is a net detriment in comparison to actually stating what exactly you dislike/disapprove of in the individual or argument you're claiming to be such.Its basically a crutch by braindead fucking retards who legitimately cant form a proper line of reasoning to support their own beliefs and thus need a placeholder to act as a foundation. As in;>I disapprove of your political stance because it disregard the need of the societal clade it claim to be in favor of, and here why and how I came to this conclusionVs>Shut the fuck up you evil NAZI FASCIST FUCK just fucking die reeeeee, you literally want to kill me becuase im different!
>>531587890>I dunnoOk. I do though.
>>531593461>Democracy can be good but that's a pipe dream.Universal democracy is based on the assumption that the majority of people are interested in intellectual discourse and will take rational decisions. Most people are NPCs completely controlled by propaganda and single-issue voters. Nobody reads the political programs or believes in them, everyone just goes "TV says fascist? Bad!" or "TV says fascist? Based!".The War Propaganda chapter from MK says everything there is to know in 10 pages, intellectual discourse is for the intellectual elite, everyone else only cares about propaganda. Propaganda is a tool and it can be used for the good of the masses, it doesn't need to lie, Goebbel's propaganda famously almost never lied, making it incredibly difficult for the British to argue back in any capacity. What History has shown is that we need strong men, both in government and in the people. We need a fluid leadership, a constant meritocracy of strong men, where as long as you produce results you remain in charge, and when you do not anymore you are replaced by a better individual. And if anyone tries to hold on to power against the will of the people, then he can be displaced by force by an armed populace. Germans had far more gun rights under Hitler than before or after.
>>531593675Know what?
>>531591047Even if we started reproducing like rabbits, we'd still have 20 years with what, half the expected rate of birth or less? we need to import teenagers.Which is just batshit crazy.Now, in these 20 years politicians tried to push young girls to become single mothers, for the good of the country... which was about as crazy as that, so we might try to actually import teenagers.Anyway, gas-wise it could be worse. The increase isn't as stark as in the US, but it can be felt especially on diesel fuel. At least we have alternatives, thanks to the green revolution that kinda failed... some cars run on liquefied gas, some are electric, biodiesel is pretty easy to come by... we'll see with general prices for everything else other than gas, they'll take a bit longer to react.
Fascism occurs in ants when a Formica bands together to expel its Polyergus. Since this behavior is like the gag or puke reflex in mammals, the hard-starting point of Fascism is difficult to define, since it's like asking when does a snowstorm begin, precisely? When the first water drop turns into a flake in the upper stratosphere? Or after that first flake touches the ground and immediately melts? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qsbe1pD8ocEThe "Half of you die" motif, of late stage Communism, comes from a badly implemented Fascism. The Yale Skull and Bones fraternity, a proper spook nursery, got its name from the inspection of this clockwork civilization expulsion of parasitoid Government-Undesirables sequence. This problem has been with us since Egypt was just a dozen crows. The constitutional republic of the founding fathers kept Fascism at bay, but now after 200 years, that constitutional republic has finished and now the Jewish Kingdom is free to decay back into what you saw when the Egyptian Assryian Philistines came into direct violent conflict with the then Hitite Ottoman Semitic fighters from the nasty north.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zX7LrG-IzeU&t=525You asked me to make America great again. Well, that's how people did it 5, 16 and 27 thousand years ago, and you have not improved upon those methods since. We need the 5 billion Nephalim to grow in side to 10 billion Nephalim by lifting African carrying capacity.
>>531593083The thing with democracy is that it can only work properly in a very restricted context of limited scale, which ironically is the very context where it wouldnt be needed since peoples can interact and come to a conclusion that take the considerations of all with relatively ease. The only actual situation I can think of where it is a net benefit is when it comes to important decisions making situations within a confederation of sovereign states where the result will affect all members equally, ie declaration of war vs encroaching enemy tribe.Leave too big of a gap between the smallest participating constituent and the system that will implement the results, and you get abysmal result as middlemens and opportunists highjack the process for their own personal interests.
>>531593932>Now, in these 20 years politicians tried to push young girls to become single mothers, for the good of the countryLmao. Absolutely weimarian.
>>531593461F.In this day and age it seems that democracy is too susceptible to subversion. Hell, most of the governments widely viewed as democratic actually hinged on all sort of behind-closed-doors deals that the public had no say in or even knowledge of.> ethnic homogeneity, civic duty, common sense, pushing for the greater good, leaving the greedy and selfish tendencybehind and pushing for a bit selfless acts, being good just for the sake of being good Amen. Won't be seeing this in our lifetimes anywhere, sadly, I think.
>>531594170Correct, but even then, democracy is an egalitarian aberration. There is no society where everyone is 5% butcher, 5% teacher, 5% baker, 5% farmer, 5% engineer, 5% doctor... Democracy at its very core is assemblies of fools vibe-deciding and always outnumbering the knowledgeable individuals on any given issue. We need lots of domain-specific dictators with an obligation of decent results, and an environment that endorses individual ingenuity and ability for new ideas. A great man in his field must take his decisions with regards only to results, and not waste the majority of his time in pointless bureaucracy to convince the ignorant.
