>>531963083It was a dysfunctional mess ruled by a dynasty of inbred Germans. But hey, at least they let us bully our minorities, so that when these retards got us into WW1, we lost 2/3 of our country in the process.
>>531963505Trianon is worst anon
The Ottoman Empire ruled the peoples of the Balkans for 400 years, but they couldn't even last 100 years.It wasn't just the Austrian Empire; most white empires collapsed in less than 100 years.Just looking at this, people of color, whom they look down on, are better at running empires.
>>531963083It was the multiculti empire during the era of nationalism. Had a lot of secret police to keep it from falling apart.
>>5319630832009 Sisi way better
>>531963083My exes favorite princess and the old moviesgod bless her for giving me access to her insanaly tight virgin like pussy, such a good girl with a rotten personality, wonder if she thinks about me every now and then. probably not, its for the best
>>531963656The Danubian Confederation would've been much better for us all. Then we'd have had the benefits of not being small German/Russian rump states individually while everyone could've been happy doing whatever. And all of our populations could've become polyglots (Czech/Slovak + Hungarian + Romanian + Serbocroatian).
>Henceforth no Jew, no matter under what name, will be allowed to remain here without my written permission. I know of no other troublesome pest within the state than this race, which impoverished the people by their fraud, usury and money-lending and commits all deeds which an honorable man despises. Subsequently they have to be removed and excluded from here as much as possible.She tried to save us, bros :(
>>531963505They didnt let us do shit, stop spouting slav propaganda, diversity was the official state policy. The lands were full with czech, slovak, romanian, italian, croatian, etc. schools and printing presses. They wanted to play them out against each other and foster bitter hatred with propaganda so they could divide and rule, >>531963083Intentionally reactionary gigantic morons, who were already anachronistic during the 1800s and kept larping that its still the 1700s well into the 20th century with serfdom and everything. Absurdly insane policies and diplomacy all around, only surviving by getting gigantic lucky breaks in every conflict since the rise of Prussia and always teetering one lost war away from collapse. They made it through the 19th century only because Russia wanted to prop them up as a similarly reactionary ally and dodging all real wars, which ironically, made them an unreliable ally that no one wanted and a fumbling bitch to Germany. >>531964019ALL empires in history were multiculti. You know, conquering peoples and everything? The smart ones were able to make it work, like Rome
>>531963083Austria is a shit country who’s only claim to fame is getting mistaken for Australia
>>531963738>better at running empires.I'm always amazed at how mudslimes manage to even conjure up those delusions when every single country islam conquered is objectively a dysgenic shithole. Even high cultures like Egypt, Mesopotamia or Persia turned to complete shit when the goatfucker religion became dominant - proving that it's not even always the people, but the retarded dogma that ruins a potentially great civilization.>>531963505>dysfunctional messIt gave the world people like Tesla, so it was hardly all that bad. It's true however, that by the time of Sisi, all the diverse interests caused it to fall apart.
>>531964842So you don't have to copy/paste it next time.
Peak european culture
>>531963083Kinda retarded and degenerate, but much less than whatever the fuck was going on north of the Alps. Also fuck magyars
>>531963738>they couldn't even last 100 years.lmao at this historylethttps://youtu.be/4tlWHDYKej0?t=91
>>531963083Hungarians newer recovered from it.
>>531964948>ALL empires in history were multiculti.Empires are multicultural, it's quite literally part of the definition IMO. Because of this all empires have inherently unfair laws and practices because they must use divide and conquer to keep the internal peace. The USA is an empire.
>>531963738Memeflag
>>531963083easterners think that was westernerswesterners wish that was themalso 0 colonial guilt
>>531965508The Islamic empires lasted for centuries and maintained stability over vast territories. Now look at your 'superior' white empires. The British Empire, which bragged about ruling five continents, couldn't even keep it together for 50 years. If the 'greatest' white empire collapsed that fast, what does that say about the rest of them? Your empires are just short-lived flashes in the pan compared to the endurance of the Caliphates
>>531963505>t. cigány village rapist
>>531965508Romy Schneider had such a fivehead, lel. But that was in at the time. Women pulled out their hair to have their hairline recede so that their forehead gets bigger.
>>531963083It was run by a sequence of sister fuckers who had some really shit policy decisions and no national identity.
>>531963083KinoIt was an empire previous to the appearance of city states, really a remaining institution of old in a sea of "progressive" liberal republics. With all the complexities that entails. When it existed it was the peak of European culture.>>531964019It would be like saying the Holy Roman Empire, the Ottoman Empire, or the Russian Empire were multicultural. That was just the state of things. The current multiculture such as the one of the EU is a an inversion of the concept of the empire, like everything satanic they take things from tradition and put them on their head.>>531964157As much as I love the Habsburgian Monarchy, Sisi was kind of fucked in the head. She reads as a typical BDP.Having had experience with such women, however, I can confirm the sex is the best you could ever have. But they are very capricious and you can end with a very messed up mind afterwards.
>>531963083Perfect example on why monarchism is gay and retarded.
>>531973163>city statesI don't know why I wrote this, I meant nation states.
>>531963083Inaccurate, Sisi was taller than Franz Josef.In regards to the Austrian Empire it was worse in every conceivable way than the Holy Roman Empire.
It was a peaceful place and therefore historians (and edge lords on here) have to ridicule it.>>531963505Poor Hungary. Got mutilated harder than Germany and still stood up with us again and again to the end. Greatest ally!>>531969829The most enduring were the Chinese. They never reached out, trying to keep its people in line and nobody really cares for their history.Islam conquered great civilizations. After the conquest they preserved a lot of the knowledge, but they never combined or extended on it.Whites, Europeans, have been placed at the back end of the Asian continent, constantly under pressure and about to be conquered and yet they discovered and conquered the world.
>>531963505Riddle me this, Äsbästäck.Why are your hospitals full of mold and ours not.Elaborate on your answer. Go into detail.
It's quite cool.
Non-white Islamo-mongoloid slavic beastsAfter we take out the BRICS shitskins and Islamists, the trash of eastern europe - Romania, Hungry, Austria, etc. - is next on the chopping. We are an age of racial purification. The BRICS is collapsing as we speak and Whites are begining to rise up. We are going to take back the West and purify the Aryan gene pool by cleansing of Europe of its non-white filth.
>>531974584*next on the chopping block
It was based and we need to go back.
>>531974584I am sure Slovenia is whiter than the United States.
>>531973258Of course I'm partial as a German, because all Germans got displaced and genocided from Eastern Europe, but the nation state was just a horrible concept.The Indian invasion of Ireland is just the final nail in the coffin for this idea. What have they fought all those centuries for?
>>531975035I'm pretty sure every European country is whiter than the swarthy mulattos. They are always doing this strutting thing to larp being relevant, as their nigger filled reality is too bleak to cope with.
>>531975077Yes, the reason for their existance is that the merchant class had to somehow justify themselves taking over the state away from the nobility and the priesthood. So the nation state becomes a decent justification as to why this random congress filled with corrupt bureaucrats should have a hold over that specific piece of land.What we see today is not a problem of the system, it was designed to be this way. Nation states are just another name for economic zones.
theres actual medical term for their inbred chins
>>531977859>>531975077what existed prior was not so much an appeal to empire over nation states as much as ultraclericalist opposition to nationalism.The primacy of Church > State.Which in the picture doesn't really help or make a difference... unless you are all content with Jesus and cosmopolitianism of Christcuckery.Nation-state > Christcuck high church ultraclericalism catholic imperialism
Yes, that's why the Holy Roman Empire was full of migrants and the based nation states that replaced it are not. I'm not even a Christian, but it's ridiculous to say the merchant class that is the ruler and creator of nation states somehow is more connected to the land and blood they rule over. At least the nobility actuall had to keep the land working since their claim to power was ultimately tied to it.
>>531981255This was meant for >>531980891
People get confused about multiculturalism and the habsburg empire... it really is primarily an offshoot of christian cosmopolitianism and ultraclericalist hatred of political community......New Columbia Movement... is a notable example of what ultraclericalist, high church attitude is towards nationalism...>We don't care for something so frivolous like race or the common good of political community! those are secularisms! mere temporal fixations! Church sword > political sword!And monarchists should hate utlraclericalism as much as the nationalists. It's as spiteful towards monarchy as it is towards nationalism, just not many people bother to realize it. So long as the monarchs bend the knee to the Pope, they're okay, but entertain absolutism and it's Pharaoh or Nero.
>>531981255Ultraclericalist attitude of Christianity is not opposed to multi-racialism--it's very church and the principles there are way worse than civnat.>nobles or the middle class merchants!Is not really relevant to the question here--things were fine post-Christcuck order until Hitler lost WW2. We could have survived the decline of Christjewry.
>>531981631>Is not really relevant to the question here--things were fine post-Christcuck order until Hitler lost WW2.lol lmaoHitler got to power because things were going terrible. France and the UK were already obviously plutocratic states running on liberal capitalistic frameworks untied to the land, and they were dominating Europe.
Returning to Christcuck world order isn't going to do shit compared to Liberalism.I'd argue Liberalism was better than Christcuck world order--the multiculturalism we see today is a recent innovation that Christcuckery is not equipped at all to deal with or resolve.
>>531975002based and Ja!
>>531981906There's no going back, but you should see what worked and actually try to improve it. A European Reich based on the traditional European systems, not Liberalism, would probably work the best for everyone,Think for a second. The Habsburg Monarchy was an empire made out of neighbouring peoples from the European land. The British Empire was a mishmash of Indians, Africans and Chinese. One is based on the land, and the other is based on a trade.
>>531982365>it's land or trade!All commodities are tied to the land and political systems, it's nothing to do with the land--that people are tied to the land, sure, would make a different, but ultimately that's not the virtue of the Habsburg monarchy--if the Habsburg ideology of ultraclericalism could embrace the kind of multiculturalism of today... it would on principle.We don't need to return to serfdom to resolve the problems of multiculturalism, that's retarded.
I've always wondered how austrians are considered german, they are a bunch of R1a slavshitters
>>531982710The difference is the emphasis. Again, you are too eager to take the nationalism promoted by the merchant class at face value.The result of nationalism was that Europe ended up caught in more than a century of pointless bloodshed, followed by the post-ww2 status quo. All throughout the bourgeoisie profited from it, and the traditional values of Europe got dissolved.
>>531983234>>531982710Also I am sure I don't need to remind you of this, but the quartering and redrawing of borders following WW1 was done by the UK, France and US to promote that retarded League of Nations globohomo liberal utopianism. A lot of the propaganda against the Habsburg Monarchy was based arround this fact. That the liberal, enlightened west was going into a conflict with the traditional, reactionary eastern powers.You have to read things in context.
>>531980891I'm just talking about practicability here. Looking at the mess of Paris, it was always a dumb attempt to attempt ethnic orders like nations states. The Balkan Wars before that weren't any better.And Germany had its own kind of abuse for centuries by the neighboring powers. It was a nationalist organized France that eventually blow out its candles.The point is, that I'm not opposed to the rulers being distanced by ethnicity. It's something like the Assad regime or even Hussein in Iraq. They have to be really careful and keep everybody happy.I also don't know where they hindered nationalism. The stuff about suppressing the people's culture never has much to backup. The fun thing is, the Austrians are even accused of fostering nationalism in place like Ukraine so they wouldn't get lulled into Slavic solidarity with the Russians.
>>531983881>>531983234christcuck wars were also followed with pointless bloodshed and political wars as well--like the Thirty Years War or English Civil Wars.We have secularism for a reason.The more conservative people (which always hints at Christendom) sit comfortably in modern life without really dealing with the problems of yesterday, but I assure we'd not be much better off with or without borders fixed to nations.Nationalism is what it presents itself as--a nation should stick with its own people.The conservative mantra of the reactionary school is not really about the nobility or empires, but it is about ultraclericalism--and again, we can see where that takes us today, it is worse than civnat, because at least with civnat you have particular concern for the wellbeing of a particular people......The advocates of pan-Europeanism sometmies flirt with ulraclerical Catholicism, alluding to Christendom as if Christianity was partial to the West... it is not... Christianity is not a pan-European project. What pan-Europeans see in oldschool Christendom is -not- a quality of Christianity, but an accidental feature.
Also I don't remember any monarch hating the people he ruled as much as the democracies we have gotten ourselves now.
The people who focus on principalities and smaller states or bigger empires as opposed to the semantics of nation-state are looking at it incorrectly: the real motive for why people are upset towards the nation-state is because they prefer religious allegiance first--Christian vs Muslim.--Sure, by coincidence, breaking up Christian unity means that European nations are more prone to fight, but generally speaking trading national tribalism for Church tribalism (protestant, catholic, orthodox) is ignoring the issue as far as race is altogether concerned.
>>531984813You know the nature of causes by the nature of their consequences.
>>531984986What we have now is secularized christianity.The problem could be summed up in that we>love your enemy>hate your family
>>531985234Hating nationalism (that a people should be with one's people and a state should be revolving around that idea) for the sake of nationalism... makes no sense at all.That is like the Christian mental gymnastics that they are the real jews but by being truer jews deny the jews.What we have today is the reaction to Hitler's utlranationalist ideology: it is simple as.Hitler is the satan of the NWO, so they setup everything opposed to what Hitler stood for.
>>531963083Read:Habsburg Jews
>>531963083>Hapsburgs use inbreeding and inheritance laws to build empire>no one in the empire wants to be there>start loses pieces of it almost as soon as you get them >have to let other people rule your empire as long as they let your keep your name on the map>forget to have children who dont commit suicide>have throne about to be passed to random uncle>let uncle drive around the streets of place that hates him in open top car>gets domed by random guy at cafe who hates him >starts world war because of this>loses 25% of their population to famine>loses throne>breaks apart empire>let yourselves be conqoured by homeless criminal (adolf hitler)>become spy capital of world>sell cheap handguns>import 22% of population in brown people>consume nothing but fried meat and desert Thats about it
>>531963083A based italian anarchist delivered justice
>>531969829Truth.
>>531985537>Hitler is the satan of the NWO, so they setup everything opposed to what Hitler stood for.Yes, and?I am not Christian, and I am not a NWO fan either.But whenever the nationalists took hold in Europe purges and destruction of traditional elements followed.In France the whole social structure was uprooted, they made an active effort to destroy local cultures, they imposed a man made cult of reason, they liquidated economic structures like guilds, they centralised the state arround the capitalist class. You can employ any rhetoric you want but the people most interested in promoting nation states against the traditional empires were also the people promoting the destruction of culture in favour of merchants. And these people employ any tools they want to achieve their ends.
>>531987020>But whenever the nationalists took hold in Europe purges and destruction of traditional elements followed.The order you're defending is the Christian order--whether you are not a CHristian isn't pertinent.What did the CHristians do to the old pagan temples? They also destroyed what came before them and broke their idols and ruined their temples.
Sisi was an egotistic, selfish, self-absorbed cunt who didn’t care about her children, husband or duties as empress of Austria. Instead she spent her time engaged in vapid aristocrat and woman pursuits. Her only positive feature, her courting of popular Hungarian sentiment towards her was solely due Hungarians claiming her as their queen. Something she loved and thought of far more than her actual role as empress. Raging bitch. Franz Joseph shouldn’t have bedevilled himself over seeking her love. Probably one of the worst women ever to have held the societal rank she did.
>>531987159The Empire is not a Christian concept. It comes from Rome previous to the existence of Christianity.
>>531964664Imagine you speak pidgin-base Danube Latin as lingua franca of Australia-Hungary?
It was cringe from the start, as all Roman larp is. They only admitted to it being Austrian after the French ideas of nationality made it impossible for them to carry on their roleplay. The originator of the worst wars in western Europe, which they desperately blamed on others, all the while completely failing to stop protestant madness in central Europe. In the 19th century (1815-1914) which is what most people have in mind when they think about it, the empire was conservative in the most retarded sense, the concentration of all the bad aspects of the ancient regime without any of the good. In fact the counter-example of Austria was a repulsive strawman that "progress" ideologues regularly used as a scarecrow to push their own retarded ideas in western Europe and the US.
>>531963083It was neither austrian nor an empire or holy
>>531991808Facts.
>>531964664>>531987952>tfw no Danubian federation bfIt's so over
