The goal of the SAVE ACT is to disenfranchise voters, not to make US elections better and more secure.1. Its a solution looking for a problem. Voting fraud is extremely rare in the US, and you need to provide ID when you register to vote.2. If it was about proving who you are, drivers licenses would be an acceptable. They are not. You must have specific ID, like a birth certificates or passport. 50% of Americans don't have a passport.3. Your name must exactly match on documents. If it doesn't say due to a clerical error or you know, you changed your name like 65 million married women, you will be rejected because,4. It incentivizes election officials to reject anyone at any sign of a discrepancy by threaten them with a crime as well as opening them to be sued.5. The Trump admin has ordered ordered the cancellation Passport applications services.6. It requires in person proof which restricts mail voting, which Trump and the right openly admit that Democrats are more likely to utilize.7. Trump JUST mail in voted, proving he's a hypocritically faggot.8. ID laws in Kansas have blocked fully eligible voters.I'm afraid facts don't care about your fee-fee's.
You're a shitter, just like all libtards. Showing an ID to vote is common sense and you're firmly in the minority on this one. In closing: you lost tranny.
>>532128691No retard. Its to protect our elections from all the illegals and fake mail in ballots flooding the (D) votes.
>>532128691>The goal of the SAVE ACT is to disenfranchise voters, not to make US elections better and more secure.duh, repugs can only win by suppressing the vote and intimidating the voters at the polling places, removing polling places from poor areas, owning the media, repugs are the party of billionaires, and the #1 concern of billionaires is how to keep poor people from voting, nothing else matters to them
So thats how the mark of the beast starts. You have to prove citizenship to vote, then itll expand. We already have a standing army, ICE, to enforce it, as well as the facilities to house those who arent compliant
Voter ID would be something that works in pretty much any normal country, but nothing can just work in the US without any hiccups. With how decentralized everything is, its pretty much guaranteed to fuck some people over for no reason. There would probably need to be universal ID and a much more even distribution of polling places at a minimum before it would be a good idea, and unfortunately those just aren't problems I expect Republicans to solve because it would involve paying the government to do things.
>>532128691Shut up foreigner
>>532128785>>532128969>>532130568https://i.4cdn.org/pol/1745605148004265.png
>>532130164You're so full of shit lol. I love watching dumb liberals word salad explain their retarded ideas. Keep losing national elections, faggot.
>>532128691i don't care either waypass it or don't
>>532128691Fake.
>>532130568All jeet leaf flags paid by act blue to shill shitlib talking points. 4/pol/ is such shit its unsalvageable at this point. Mass exodus is required.
>>532131518This isn't your hugbox faggot
>>532130164The problem is we need a fucking federal ID. Every other country has figured this out. We almost universally have it in the form of the Social Security Number, but the SSN is not identifying (it does not have a photo, biometric data, physical descriptors, etc.)Unfortunately whenever you bring this up people start going "MUH PAPERS PLEASE" and we don't get it, so we have the hodgepodge of different state IDs (which don't require citizenship to get because we have green card holders, visa holders, etc. who are lawfully present and have a valid need to drive legally) instead.It's fucking stupid.I'm in favor of voter ID, but I'm not in favor of the shenanigans in the SAVE Act where people will have to present ID that proves citizenship, which would require most people in most states to present a naturalization certificate or birth certificate in addition to their drivers license/state nondriver ID.
>>532128691>If it doesn't say due to a clerical error or you know, you changed your name like 65 million married women, you will be rejected because>65 million women off the voter rollsOh, wow, I support the SAVE Act now?
SAVE act will unquestionably filter out far more valid voters than fraudulent ones, simple as.
>>532131837 here>what's the point of ID if it doesn't prove citizenshipThe SSA responds electronically to state voter registration boards if the SSN is valid, rough demographic info (name/D.O.B.), and if it is a non-citizen SSN, so just making someone present valid government issued photo ID at the polling place is sufficient if it matches a registration tied to a known citizen SSN.
>>532131837>federal IDYou mean to tell me that Americans don't have the same id everywhere in the country?Why?
>>532131958Libtards will say any dumb shit to keep their illegals voting. It's over, tranny.
>>532132663states rights
>>532132663It's called a passport you retarded trans sympathizer.
>>532132732I still don't get it, how does a universal ID jeopardize states rights?Does an id from say, Iowa give you different benefits than one from Washington?
>>532132765Why would you have a passport if you don't travel
>>532128691>Leaf has an opinion about US politics
>>532132663No. The de facto ID is a state issued non-driver ID or driver's license, issued by the state department of motor vehicles.Something something states rights something something "no federal database of citizens" (even though the private data brokers and especially 9/11 data mart environments plus enumeration at birth on Social Security Numbers and requiring SSNs for child tax dependent credits means it's virtually impossible to not be in a federal database).>>532132765The passport is not a de facto national ID, it's only required to travel to foreign countries without another WHTI compliant document. Almost half of American adults don't have any form of passport (book or card).
>>532128691You have no idea how much fraud there is. You cannot know because the process is so insecure that its literally impossible to know once all the ballots are in the pile. Your assertion that fraud is relatively rare is not only a total lie based on nothing. Its also a clear projection of your insecurity.You know that fraud is the only way libshits win. I know it. Everyone knows it. There is literally no other reason at all to oppose voter ID. We are the only first world nation with such insecure elections. Every single socialist shithole that you worship requires ID to vote.
>>532128691>be "Canadian">forever obsessed with America, the superior country
>>532133135So the reason why some Americans don't have an ID is because they don't want to be in a "database"? I'm sorry but i still don't get it, it makes no fucking sense
>>532128691This may come as a surprise to you, but I totally support your disenfranchisement. My hope is you will riot over it and then be shot dead in the street. Fingers crossed, here's to hoping.
>>532128691Universal suffrage was always a mistake. If you can't be fucked to show up in person to vote then fuck you, nigger.
Biden wasnt actually elected so i don't give a shit.
>>532128691>disenfranchise votersOnly absolute niggerized voters who can't be bothered to get an id
>>532128691fuck off orange pedo nigger kys
>>532133465Or who are too catastrophically retarded to understand the concept or know how to get one (they're out there). In which case they shouldn't be voting. Or illegals who aren't citizens and shouldn't be voting.
>>532128785You already have to show if to register to vote. Dumb fucking miggers
>>532133317https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity_documents_in_the_United_Statestl;dr it's "states rights" and particularly with the Cold War, the boomers view it as a point of pride that we don't have a real federally issued national ID versus the "papers please" nature of the soviets.It's really dumb, but now we've had state issued drivers licenses for many years that when the prospect comes up everyone cries about it stupidly. Democrats go on about how it's basically a scarlet letter to be able to pick out "undocumented immigrants" (people here illegally) easily, and republicans go on about small federal government (despite ballooning deficits and federal spending) state's rights etc. bullshit.You also have the people that now say making a federal ID would make it easier to require ID online in more places, like porn, or forums like this, since you'd only have to make one integration to one data source, so then freedom/privacy on the web would be dead, so privacy conscious people regardless of party oppose it.
>>532128691It's too late to implement the save act before the mid terms without causing absolute chaos on election day
>>532133317States issue ID, not the Feds (other than passports or military ID, etc)most people's "ID" is a state issued drivers license. some states have non-driver ID as well.lately, the state issued ID has to meet certain federal standards to be accepted at airports>>532133656then it shouldn't be a problem to show it when you voote nigger
>>532133759what a shame
>>532128691Okay, but if franchise were restricted to people with passports, the Republicans would be annihilated in red states.
>>532133656So how do you prove that the person who voted is the same person who registered?It is mind boggling how stupid you are that you cant understand simple aspects of reality abd causation. You're so fucking intellectually lazy you are no different from a retarded person.
>>532128691>t. Canadian (jeet)
Dear Donny,You wouldn't have to try to rig the upcoming elections if you hadn't spent the past 15 months pissing off 75% of the country with your erratic behavior, your violent xenophobia and your self-indulgent corruption.signed,The Framers of the Constitution
>>532128691Most voters should be disenfranchised. They're fucking retarded. Would you let some dude that thinks he's a woman vote and decide who run the US and US congress? You'd have to be nuts. Or some retarded spic/nigger/woman that doesn't know how APR and compound interest work. you don't want stupid people voting just like you don't want a stupid person working at a nuclear powerplant.
>>532133773Yeah but again why. If the drivers license is already like an ID what's all the whining about having an IDAlso, is it difficult to get an ID?
>>532128691I dont understand why the left doesn't want this. They love saying Europeans countries does so much right, but ai am pretty sure almost all of the countries in Europe requires ID to vote. Your whole list of arguments make little sense. We dont have any of those problems, and the only accepted ID's here are passports, national id card or drivers licence.
>>532134073the democrats don't want you to have to show ID to voote so they can cheat, its that simpletheir argument is basically that niggers are too dumb to get IDs (most of them are, but preventingdumb people from vooting is a good thing imo)
>>532134073>Also, is it difficult to get an ID?not really, unless you're retarded (or a nigger, same thing)>>532134189it makes it harder for them to cheat
>>532132663>You mean to tell me that Americans don't have the same id everywhere in the country?We do. The Real ID act was passed in 2008 and standardized IDs nation wide, with requirements of presenting documents citizenship to get. There are still a few states (both Democrat AND Republican majority) who aren't compliant despite having almost 20 years to get there - Connecticut, Nevada, Louisiana, New Hampshire, Illinois, Alaska, Kentucky, CaliforniaThe thing with SAVE is that having that ID is no longer good enough apparently for reasons.
>>532128691>Just let illegals vote bro>We investigated ourselves and found we were innocent of letting illegals vote Keep your commie monkeyshines to yourself, nigger
>>532128691No one should vote anymore. If you believe in dumbocracy after covid than you are a fool with a learning disability.
>>532134191>the democrats don't want you to have to show ID I was mostly asking why the drivers ID doesn't count as an ID.
>>532134431it does count
>>532128691>The goal of the SAVE ACT is to disenfranchise illegal votersftfy
>>532128969>Its to protect our elections from all the illegals and fake mail in ballots flooding the (R) votes.Fixed that for you.
>>532128691Said the retard who requires id to vote in canada.
>sign an executive order to postpone the midtermsprobably a fake tweetalthough it wouldn't even be the dumbest thing that he's ever said
>>532134471So what's the problem then
>>532134320>>532134191>Zero evidence of wide spread election fraud in 2020>DA DEMS STOLE DA ELECTION!>Hundreds of sworn testimonies and mountains of proof that Trump tried to steal the 2020 election>*crickets*If the 2020 election was stolen, that's the biggest thing conspiracy in the history of the US, yet Trump and co act like they don't actually believe it and have done fuck all to investigate. Why was Trump lying about election fraud on election day in Nov 2024? Why didn't the Dems just steal the 2024 election? Why is there no evidence of wide spread election fraud in 2020? Why are you all such retarded faggots?
>>532128691> USA living rent free in canadians headsDo yall not get tired of being retarded?
>>532128691Too many idiots voting. Anything to add barriers to entry is a positive. Libtards obviously, want to go in the other direction. They are campaigning to lower the voting age to 16. And Germany made it legal for literal retards with Down syndrome to vote.
>>532128691>2. If it was about proving who you are, drivers licenses would be an acceptable. They are not. You must have specific ID, like a birth certificates or passport. 50% of Americans don't have a passport.You are also a retard because EVERYONE paying attention to the matter knows cali (and other democrap run shitholes) GAVE DRIVERS LICENSES to ILLEGALS and they have been using them to register (and vote) in elections.
>>532134700the (fake) argument is ole Bluegums McCoon out on the bayou in Louisana don't gots no drivers license cuz he don't gots no car and sheeeit so therefor making him show an ID to vote is raycis against blaq peepothe real argument is making people show ID to voote makes it harder for the democrats to cheat>>532134826fuck off leaf this doesn't concern you
>>532134073It's not proof of citizenship. It only proves identity.
>>532134982>>532134920Im sorry but all this sounds very retarded and needlessly complicated to me
>>532133370I'll bring the popcorn.
>>532133656Oh ok then I guess it's an ez pz no big deal and everyone should be on board with ID to vote then, yea? Fucking dumb libtard. Keep losing.
>>532134826Why does a Canadian get all their American political news from shareblue?
>>532134910Other shitholes (Minnesota) automatically register you when you get your drivers license.
>>532135149It’s intended to so they can cheat in elections
>>532135149The US has no easily obtainable national proof of both identity and citizenship. A RealID card like most drivers licenses only proves identity (obviously, legal foreign nationals probably need to drive). Birth documents prove citizenship. A passport proves both. There is something called an Enhanced Driver's License that also proves both, but it's only offered in 5-6 blue states.The SAVE Act is catastrophic for Republicans in the short term. Married women who don't have the agency to sort out name changes, middle and lower class whites that don't understand what their Driver's License or State ID is would all be purged from rolls, and those people vote Republican.
>>532135692thanks for the goncern but we'll take our chances my friend from reddit
>>532128691Yeah it’s going by to disenfranchise a bunch of people most likely right wingers tho because they are low class retards they don’t even leave their trailers
>>532135845I like the SAVE Act because it disenfranchises low agency and stupid MAGA slopulists. I am a liberal elitist.
>>532135692Lol democrats say this same line about blacks. They're too stupid to figure out ID huh? Ok guess we'll take our chances.
>>532135960You cried when Kamaltoe lost lol.
>>532128691Your skin is the color of SHITYour arguments are invalid
>>532136007Blacks being disenfranchised is good to. Their corruption, pro criminal preferences, and generally unproductive population make their influence in Democrat primaries a net negative.
>>532128785Everyone already does that ruski. Youd have to be an american adult to understand. Show flag or gtfo.
>>532136053Trump is still crying.
>>532128691all this dude does is cry on his twitter while the country falls apart
>>532136223You lost tranny. Check the scoreboard. Trump 2, Fagocrats 1. Just like how we beat your dumbasses in your own sport a few weeks ago lmao.
>>532136198Lol keep lying faggot. You will lose again.
>>532136007>8pbtid, all seethingAnyways, I'd get needing a drivers license or something along those lines to prove identity, but requiring a birth certificate or a passport would be dumb, who tf has a copy of their birth certificate on hand lol. Plenty of people also don't have passports
>>532128691I'm a duel citizen and in Canada when you vote you must show an ID you stupid retarded leaf faggot kill yourself nowwwwwwwwwww
>>532135925You should probably spend your time concern posting about it to help your enemies then
>>532131837Pretty much - if we had a sane ID system, voter ID would make sense, but we don't. Republican efforts tend to be blatant attempts at disenfranchisement rather than trying to fix the problem in good faith. The theory that our illegals are voting in real numbers are retarded as well - there is too much heat in battleground states, and zero incentive in safe states. The solution seems pretty simple to me:1. mandatory and most importantly *free* form of federal ID that has citizenship status2. phase-in period of a few years to get everyone caught up
>>532136459I can produce mine easily. Most legal Americans can. If you're too stupid (or illegal) to do so then maybe it's a good thing you can't vote. I'm actually all for not allowing everyone to vote so you aren't going to convince me with that dumb argument.
>>532136459Do you want to restrict franchise to citizens or not?
>>532136459How do you not have a copy of your birth certificate? Have you ever left your house? Do you now own a file cabinet or file your personal documents? Are you a subhuman 40IQ jungle nigger who has never seen an automobile before? How do you not have your birth certificate? I have two copies of mine on file, my wife's and two copies for each of my kids. You are honestly too fucking worthless to continue berating.
>>532136654Ironically, a copy is not applicable lmao - only the original will do. Many people don't have theirs because their parents have always had it, and they never needed it day to day. And about half of all Americans don't have a passport.
>>532136616Of course xhe doesn’t
>>532136450Again youd have to be an american adult to understand everyone already requires id to vote. You are making yourself look like an idiot and shaming russia, so no refunds. Its a strict policy.
>>532128691the purpose of the save act is to dupe retardlikikes into creating a system for states like commiefornia to make their illegals "legal" and make the votes they cast count in national elections.
>>532136775You have no clue what your talking about, shut the fuck up. It's rare a government agency won't take a copy, since it's only to confirm you identity. I can't recall the last time I needed the original>T. Duel citizen constantly having to show my birth certificate to Canadian and American customs
>>532136807Lying is a hallmark of libtard discussion. Keep losing, faggot.
>>532136612>now at 11pbtid, all seethingHave some green tea or something, maybe try meditation>>532136654it's probably at my parents' house, I've literally never needed it for anything. Also, if it's true that copies don't count like the other replier said, then lmaooo own goal
>>532137237You should try a rope. The meds aren't working.
>>532128691>thank you for the attention I'm this matterGets me every time
FAGGOT OP IS A FAGGOT LEAF BUT I REPEAT MYSELF
>>532128691>1. Its a solution looking for a problem. Voting fraud is extremely rare in the US, and you need to provide ID when you register to vote.Registering to vote is not the same as voting. And who does the following hurt the most? Who does this disenfranchise the most? >2. If it was about proving who you are, drivers licenses would be an acceptable. They are not. You must have specific ID, like a birth certificates or passport. 50% of Americans don't have a passport.>3. Your name must exactly match on documents. If it doesn't say due to a clerical error or you know, you changed your name like 65 million married women, you will be rejected because,>4. It incentivizes election officials to reject anyone at any sign of a discrepancy by threaten them with a crime as well as opening them to be sued.>5. The Trump admin has ordered ordered the cancellation Passport applications services.>6. It requires in person proof which restricts mail voting, which Trump and the right openly admit that Democrats are more likely to utilize.>7. Trump JUST mail in voted, proving he's a hypocritically faggot.>8. ID laws in Kansas have blocked fully eligible voters.
>>532131837You don't need a fed ID. You just need the state IDs to conform to a standard
>>532128691Literally everything OP said is complete bullshit. The ONLY reason Democrats oppose the SAVE Act is because it will make it harder for them to rig elections. It's no coincidence that blue states also have the least strict voting laws. The Democrats win in places like NY and Cali and Chicago because they let anyone vote, even illegals and fake people.
>>532137237The other replier read a news article where the brown retard writing it saw that photo copies will not be allowed and extrapolated that to include certified copies.
>>532136965>Under the Safeguard American Voter Eligibility (SAVE) Act, a simple photocopy of a birth certificate is not sufficient for voter registration. The bill requires individuals to present original or certified documentary proof of citizenship (DPOC) in person to an election official.It will be so fucking funny to watch you get turned away at the polls, too bad this retarded bill is not going to get passed.
>>532128785All ID should be abolished. All records should be destroyed. We should go back to an age of anonymity.
>>532137611Illegals don't have any incentive to risk voting in places like California lmao. Why risk fines and deportation when the result is not even in doubt.
>>532128691>ESL fifth columnist invader writing from CanuckistanWe have to answer the Canadian question.
>>532128691Go back to India streetshitter.
>>532137751Illegals don't have incentives to vote for the people who will continue to allow their illegal activities? This is the average redditor, trannies and gentlefags.
>>532128691don't care KYS
>>532137627>a simple photocopy of a birth certificate is not sufficient for voter registration. >The bill requires individuals to present original or certified documentary proof of citizenship (DPOC) in person to an election official.>original or certifiedCan you read?
>>532132663>Why?Because that would make it harder for Democrats to cheat and rig elections.
>>532128691Canada literally already has voter ID laws you dipshit
>>532137751>he thinks they investigate and prosecute voting fraud
>>532137905Copy and certified copy are not the same.A certified copy of my birth certificate is effectively my birth certificate in the state of my birth. I order it, they photocopy it on security paper, they imprint a raised seal on it, and the keeper of records signs the back.A photocopy alone will not work, just as the other anon said. You would need to get a certified birth extract or original birth certificate from your relevant vital records office to present in person.
>>532138060Hey that’s what I just said
>>532137941A small price to disenfranchise chuds and hicks for 2-4 years.
>>532135692Republicans will always miraculously find a way to make exceptions for their kind. It’s the rules for me not for thee party after all.
>>532138198Yea that's why libtard politicians simp for anti-2A laws and then walk around with a dozen armed guards. Sit down on a Bad Dragon dildo, faggot.
How would you Americans feel if you were to receive a fine for not voting?
>>532137862Zero, when dem dominance is assured anyway. Margins are insurmountable. >>532137905Many people have a simple copy because they never need it day to day and their parents simply hung onto it. >>532138014They do, and some people get pinched every year. They're just almost never illegals.
>>532138361The American people are insane and the fewer voting the better.
>>532137024Keep memeflagging russiatrash, nobody believes you. Every state requires ID to vote currently which means illegals arent keen to it. Do you think illegals just walk into an election and grab stacks of ballots to fill out and nobody says anything? Fucking actual russian retard.
>>532138447Then they can very simply request a certified copy from the municipality in which they were born. This is a non issue that dems have been wantonly lying about since the bill was proposed.
>>532138587>Every state requires ID to vote currentlyyou just lied about that again, weird tactic
>>532138678It's not an issue for highly educated whites people with passports, ie liberals. It's a huge issue for poorly educated populist whites under the delusion their driver's license proves citizenship, ie Trump supporters.
>>532138447"That never happens!""Ok once in a while, maybe, but not often""Ok ok it happens a lot but the margin is so big it doesn't matter!"I wonder if the illegals voting have anything to do with that margin? Hmmmmmmmmmm. Retard.
>>532138831Dont forget blacks. They vote almost entirely democrat and only like two dozen of them in the whole country will be able to figure out the insurmountable obstacle of *gasp* obtaining an ID.
>>532128691The fact that a leafjeet cares about it is proof it's needed.How long have you been voting in our elections?
>>532138831Great, then continue to waste your breath championing the people you hate. If it only affects chuds then why are all of you wailing and gnashing your teeth about it?
>>532138908Based. The Democrats would run better and less corrupt candidates if they didn't have to pander to the black caucus. Win, win.
>>532128691Fuck him and the kikes he rode in under. This is just a last ditch move by the kikes to buy some time for their grip over the United States. They know that the United States will prove a more capable and enraged enemy of the kikes than the Nazis and Iranians ever hoped to be. Because this time, we can use DNA testing to flush every last Ashkenazi parasite out. Those Sephardic fuckers will be removed as well. Nobody is threatened by the other two kike variants. One is nigger and the other just ragheads in tiny hats. Get rid of the two problematic races of kikes and the world prospers.
>>532128691Women shouldn't vote anyway and do you not have your birth certificate? A fucking leaf, everyone
>>532128691Even third world shitholes require you to verify your identity before you vote. It’s so clearly just an example of leftist brainwashing to even pretend there’s anything strange about voter ID.
>>532138991I'm a racist liberal. I like the SAVE Act because it disenfranchises chuds and decreases the power of the black caucus.
>>532138831I guess the politicians you elect are even dumber than we thought, huh? If it's a slam dunk for you libtards then they're really screwing this up by opposing ID to vote eh?
>>532128785Yep. The kikes are scared and aware their grip over the United States is ending.
>>532138847>I wonder if the illegals votingLiteral head cannon conspiracy. You, nor anyone have yet provide evidence of your retarded claim. I've pointed out that Trump acts like he doesn't believe 2020 was stolen, and show that HE was the one that tried to steal 2020. Provide solid evidence and arguments or fuck off.
>>532139075Based!
>>532128691So you think Canada, Mexico, all of Europe, China and Russia all "disenfranchise" voters?Leftists are retards.
>>532132663We don't. It's called Liberty and we like it that way. We also buy and own lots of guns and ammunition. We even have the right to gun down anyone threatening us. Again. Liberty. You should try it, I bet you'll like it.
>>532139075Well then, my apologies. Stands for the OP though.
>>532138771Sorry cuckbrain, no use in bullshitting me. I have voted many times in my life, each time required id to get a ballot. You cant just walk in and start filling out stacks of ballots. When you turn 18, you will learn. Or maybe you wont because you are trying to be a republican peasant?
>>532128691>t. Abdul Bin Somali Muhammad Singh Pilpul Al-Taqqiya
>>532139001Democrats lose every single election if they don't get their mandatory 95% black voting bloc.
>>532128691vooter here con canfirm just got dis an sum cheese fries, trumps fault, its ogre, ogre...
>>532131958If you don’t have the ability to produce basic and nearly free documents to prove your identity in the literal years between this proposal and an election, you do not deserve a say.
>>532139233The Democrats are stuck in the 2010s where they think they benefit from high turnout. They do not. Trump has taken the low propensity voters to the Republicans. The Democrats should act more like the party of well educated professionals they are.
>>532128691shitskin leaf worried about my election, you probably used to head over the border and stuff ballots for commies. Fuck off I demand birth certificates and blood oaths
>>532139226>I've pointed out that Trump acts like he doesn't believe 2020 was stolen, and show that HE was the one that tried to steal 2020.You’re a faggot. I’ve pointed out that you’re a faggot so that must be the case.
>>532128691>The goal of the SAVE ACT is to disenfranchise voters,Shut the fuck up faggot. Even niggers want voter ID so don't be raaycis now thinking you know better. Your post is a bunch of hysterical nonsense. It's not difficult to get ID and anyone who refuses to do that OBVIOUSLY shouldn't be voting. Every state has income based programs and even free ID options for poors so that's not an argument. All of those gay points you raise have solutions and are not an argument against voter ID which every other civilized country on the planet does.Kindly fuck off back to preddit.
>>532139434>Democrats >Well educated Uh no.
>>532128691shitskin if you don’t have a legit US birth certificate, fuck off. I demand legit birth certificates and a blood oath
>>532139383Yep, all 50 states have the same voting laws as the federal government moderates voting. I also do not live in a state that does not require ID to vote and have never voted without an ID.
>>532139226Keep repeating this line all the way until 2028 when you lose again, faggot tranny sympathizer.
>>532132845Yes. For example: Your friend from California is visiting you in Texas. He wants to buy an LMT308MWS he just saw at a gun shop you frequently visit.. Upon showing his Californian ID, the clerk will shake his head and say "sorry, I can't legally sell you that..".. If your friend is stupid, he'll turn to you and say "hey Anon.." And you'll put up your hand and bark at him: "DON'T FINISH THAT QUESTION BECAUSE IF YOU DO, IT'S A FEDERAL FELONY!!".. Yes. This is from a real world example.
>>532132845Funny how "states rights" only matter when a republican is in power.
>>532139750I mean no one is hiding it anymore. We hate you and hate us so the rules are out the window. Let's fight and get this over with already.
>>532138678Yes. And they can get a passport too. But it's another hoop to jump through, which is the real point of this exercise. >>532138847They don't, and only a complete retard would pretend they do. Feds do investigate that shit, no matter what some people believe. Republicans are down millions of votes in California's election, but DOJ can only scrounge up single digits of illegals voting? Get real.
>>532139880>admits hes just trolling for daddy trumpAt least you are being an honest magatranny now. But maybe google the laws first before trying to troll again so you dont look like such a silly faggot.
>>532140052Hahaha libtards will never stop lying about absolutely everything. You're so mad you lost, redditfag.
>>532137674Only white property owners of well known moral standing in the community should vote.
>>532140109Remember when that dumb bitch you voted for lost? Kamaltoe?Hahahahahaa
>>532128691if voter ID made everything fair not a single rightoid would be calling for it
>>532139226>be Chinese man going to school in the state of Michigan>ushered into a voting booth by a leftist volunteer trying to get as many retarded 18 year old psych majors to vote democrat as possible >supposedly nobody notices that it is 100% illegal for you to vote>realize that you’ve committed voter fraud and you will go to prison if caught>turn yourself in a few days later>vote is already accepted and counted without question. Nobody would’ve ever caught it if you hadn’t turned yourself in>the state of Michigan tries to prosecute you>flee back to China>your vote is never removed from the countWow, to everyone’s amazement, no fraud will be found if nobody is willing to admit it’s possible, let alone look for it.https://edition.cnn.com/2024/10/30/politics/michigan-chinese-citizen-charged-after-illegally-voting
>>532139880Aren't you still crying over 2 communists getting killed trying to fight border protection? You're literal traitors.
>>532140228I didn't like kamala and trump is tanking the fuck out of the republican brand. I am more amused than anything desu. Nevertheless, only retards think illegals are responsible for democrat dominance in states like California and NY. Last CA election was 9 million dem vs 6 million rep - you think a full third of dem vote was illegals? You should be braying for Kash's head on a plate lmao.
>>532140394Pretti Good? Why would I cry about them lol.
>>532139429If all whites vote, sure. But the nuance about proof of citizenship vs proof of identity loss of the bottom tail of white populists. On account of educational polarization and the greater cosmopolitanism of urban professionals, they are more likely to possess a passport. A more educated, more white and asian electorate does not favor Republicans.
>>532140308Yeah and then the economy crashed and we started a holy war for no fucking reason other than to distract from the epstein files? Yeah I remember, why?
>>532134549If that was true, the support for it would be flipped.
>>532140474"I didn't even like her!" Lmfao I will never get sick of laughing at you absolute losers. Thank you for entertaining me today.
>>532137613The person I was replying too hasn't clarified if his copies were just photocopies or "ceritifed" copies. Either way, the idea is pretty dumb>>532140394>>532140499lmfao, yeah y'all are getting filtered by these laws
>>532131837>which would require most people in most states to present a naturalization certificate or birth certificate in addition to their drivers license/state nondriver IDAnd? WTF is the problem with this? I have to go through more hoops to buy a fucking pistol which I have an enumerated right to have.
>>532140052>But it's another hoop to jump through, which is the real point of this exercise.Your belief in unregulated universal suffrage is completely aside from the fact that every US citizen is capable of proving their citizenship. >>532136775>Ironically, a copy is not applicable lmao - only the original will do.Also, you lied.
>>532128691>jeet leaf can't vote in US elections >"this is le bad"
>>532140636I didn't, she fucking sucked. The last three elections in general were choices between the retarded+insufferable, and retarded+batshit. It's a fucking shit time to be a moderate in this country.
>>532128691>1. Its a solution looking for a problem. Voting fraud is extremely rare in the US,We have documented cases of illegals voting. And of course the allegations of widespread fraud in 2020 have not been disproved. All of Trump's suits were dismissed for lack of standing, which means the arguments weren't heard or evaluated.>like a birth certificates or passport. 50% of Americans don't have a passport.And 100% of Americans can easily request a birth certificate. States have programs for homeless types to get these records for free.>3. Your name must exactly match on documents.The SAVE Act mandates that states account for name changes.>If it doesn't say due to a clerical error Clerical errors can be fixed. The SAVE Act mandates states resolve clerical discrepancies.>or you know, you changed your name like 65 million married women,You're actually retarded>4. It incentivizes election officials to reject anyone at any sign of a discrepancy by threaten them with a crime as well as opening them to be sued.No it doesn't you faggot. This happens during voter registration not while actually voting. As I said above, the SAVE Act does the opposite, mandating that states have processes to resolve discrepancies and name changes.>5. The Trump admin has ordered ordered the cancellation Passport applications services.For anchor babies who aren't real citizens. They can still get birth certificates though.>6. It requires in person proof which restricts mail votingNo it doesn't faggot. It requires a photocopy of the ID to be mailed in with the ballot. The SAVE Act does nothing to ban mail in voting.>7. Trump JUST mail in voted, proving he's a hypocritically faggot.SAVE Act has nothing to do with mail in voting.>8. ID laws in Kansas have blocked fully eligible voters.Only retards who couldn't figure out how to get a birth certificate. These people SHOULD be blocked from voting. In closing: fuck off tranny leaf
>>532128691>voter fraud = election fraud No
>>532140323>it’s the literal rest of the world who is wrong
>>532140778If Kamala enjoyed the same popularity among non-whites as Hillary, she would have won. If Hillary enjoyed the same popularity among whites as Kamala, Hillary would have won.
>>532128691I havent voted in 10 years, such a pain in the ass. why cant i show up with my id and white skin and vote. fuck all you kikes
>>532141004Id be fine with voter ID if democrats and rightoid freaks worked on it together
>>532128691OP is a tranny racist if he thinks minorities are too stupid to find the drivers license office in their town. Looks like the tranny racist leaf lost again
>>532140722Guns are icky, browns voting is cute and valid, simple as
>>532140767Like your typical non-austistic person when I said "original" I meant an official copy with an embossed watermark, etc. The county has the only *actual* original, and they won't part with it.Yes, with enough lead time and motivation every US citizen is capable of proving their citizenship, and we should have voter ID like most civilized countries - this is just a retarded way of going about it.
>>532141157Oops, looks like dems refuse to do that! I guess no voter ID laws!
>>532141498>Like your typical non-austistic person when I said "original" I meant an official copy with an embossed watermark, etc.>oops, did I just accidentally parrot the same lie that the dem establishment has been pushing since this bill was proposed?? Silly me, you must be autistic.You know exactly what you were implying when you said “original.”
>>532141910I certainly didn't mean the one and only actual original that the county holds onto and never gives to anyone lol.
>>532141613They already exist retard. The ones that breaks them historically are republican.
>>532128691Now that reddit is here en mass, why not shill this?
>>532129123 You have to actually be a citizen to vote. That's demonic o algo!
>>532142135Yes I’m the silly one because I decided to call you on your claim that not accepting a fucking photo copy of your birth certificate was a problem.
>>532142453Then you shouldn't mind. They'll actually help you bring in millions of illegals. Call your dem senator. Tell him to vote yes on citizenship so more illegals can get in.
>>532142453That directly contradicts what that anon said. Why are you replying?
>>532142817I said that many people only have a photo copy, which is true. Hell, I'm one of them - my parents have the original, because I've simply never needed it in my adult life. Of course, I have a passport so none of this shit affects me anyway.
>>532143081>I said that many people only have a photo copy, which is true.Yes and they can request a certified copy from the municipality in which they were born. You’re talking in circles.
>>532142997I can reply to whoever I want, biiiiiiiiitch. Voter id is already required. You lose magatranny. No refunds on your trump vote for peasantry.
>>532140778>Hi I'm a moderate here to shill disenfranchisement as a reason not to restrict voting to citizens. With bullet points. Lmfao
>>532143339We just had this conversation.>>532139595You did not reply and instead interjected elsewhere. It didn’t make sense.
>>532143289Yes, with some lead time and a little money you can jump through some hoops and get whatever documentation you needed - and the point of these laws is to create a hassle for people trying to vote in hopes they skip an election. That's why they tend to come up in an election year and require documents that millions of Americans don't have on hand. Most countries have voter ID, and it's kind of retarded that we don't - and it's because nobody is interested in a fair system that provides for easy ID access for everyone and had a useful grace period for it to kick in.
>>532143620You did not reply, like a bitch. It was odd that you tagged me later but hey heres another microphone. Voter id laws already exist. You cannot vote without id. Republicans are always trying to cheat and always get caught.
>>532128691>Voting fraud is extremely rare in the US Reminder that in the future it's going to be legal to batter and maim people who lie to you.
>>532143801>Your belief in unregulated universal suffrage is completely aside from the fact that every US citizen is capable of proving their citizenship.Please explain how proof of citizenship can be made any simpler than providing your birth certificate. You’re doing that thing again where you pretend to not understand things. There are two requirements to vote in the US.1. Be a US citizen2. Be 18 years of ageHow can the United States government best confirm that both of those requirements are met?
>>532143929I retroactively responded to your post and fabricated my timestamp?
>leaf is seething
>>532143801No the point of these laws is to keep ineligible people from voting. Like this guy:>https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ice-says-former-des-moines-superintendent-pleaded-guilty-in-citizenship-fraud-case/ar-AA1VFnP7"A hassle" isn't an excuse. The same argument could be made for obtaining a driver's license and passport, which no one tries to do because that would be retarded. It's called being an adult. If someone is actually concerned with being able to vote they can figure out the requirements and do what needs to be done, including ordering a birth certificate. It's not difficult and most states have programs for poors and homeless to get discounted/free documents and ID.
>>532144216Crazy idea, how about the "Real ID" that every citizen is already required by law to have when they vote, drive, or drink?
>>532128691why are you in canada caring about this?anyway, both political parties work for jewsits red team vs blue team, and jews own both teams.since anglo-saxons are race blind they're with the jews, even though the jews fucking despise them and have destroyed everything they ever created by taking advantage of their near total lack of racial ingroup preference as a reflex.the only people that can save the anglo world are the anglos, and they wont fucking do it.
>>532144435Did I already accuse you of being illiterate yet?>>532134282I understand that you’re just shitposting but you’re shitposting in a thread with 200+ replies
>>532144372That dude didn't vote lmao. >>532144216Nothing wrong with voter ID laws in principle, the part that's disingenuous is putting them in at the last minute and involving documentation that millions of people don't have on hand. >>532144435Real ID doesn't prove citizenship. Missed opportunity there. Would have been a perfect vehicle - switch everyone over it it, and have a period of several years for it to kick in so that everyone has it on hand.
>>532128691kek, "voters"
>>532128691Honestly, if Democrats win and don't Nuremberg the republicans. And I mean top to bottom, base and everybody, then there is no hope for America.
>>532144780>the part that's disingenuous is putting them in at the last minute and involving documentation that millions of people don't have on hand.>last minute>takes minutes of your time and months at most to have a certified copy of your bc mailed>7+ months until the national election so it’s a non issue then?
>>532144965We could not give a fuck about your faggy European opinion
>>532144965>there is no hope for AmericaThere is no hope.
>>532128691facts don't matter to the uneducated
>>532128691>and you need to provide ID when you register to vote.not fully accurate federally or universally. the current federal form only requires you to affirm citizenship under penalty of perjury. this means you can lie.>If it was about proving who you are, drivers licenses would be an acceptabledriver's license (or even many REAL IDs) does not prove citizenship because non-citizens can legally obtain them>Your name must exactly match on documents>It incentivizes election officials to reject anyone at any sign of a discrepancytrue and real issue for some married women. but, then again, women *shrugs*>5>6>7>8 mostly circumstancial and whining. womp womp faggot lmfao.you don't have a clue what you're talking about and are just whining. fix your own country fag.
>>532145002A few years would be a better time frame - and any documentation required should be free. > a non issueIf more people can't cast a vote on election date due to these laws than there are illegals voting, it's an issue.
>>532144780A non-citizen cannot get "Real ID". Sorry magatroll you lose. You have to provide proof of lawful presence to get one and you need to have it to get a ballot already. Voter laws already exist.
>>532128785What is the fear exactly? That someone whose eligible to vote, registers to vote and then has their mail stolen and someone else votes for them while forging their signature? Even then the voter could report their mail stolen/not delivered which would invalidate the vote. This is just a dumb ass attempt to make voting more difficult so that the Republicans don't lose the midterms as badly
>>532128785Not a liberal here.The IRS already knows who owes taxes and exactly how much. In the same way, states already know the citizenship status of every resident of the state. When you register to vote, if your ID doesn't match a citizenship record, you get rejected. When votes are tallied, ballots that don't match or have other issues get set aside and not counted until reviewed. That's how they find the 10 people per election that try to commit fraud.The state election process already guarantees counted ballots are cast by citizens. You're retarded. Sorry you were born with an 82 IQ. Please stop making it everyone else's problem.
>>532145323>true and real issue for some married women. It’s not, there are stipulations in the bill for name changes. The dem claims have all been so ridiculous I just discounted them whole cloth. I checked. Turns out they were just all lies.>but, then again, women *shrugs*based
>>532145944then i stand corrected.
>>532128691I hope it passes and they still get BTFO during midterms. Wonder what the cope would be then.
>>532145323>the current federal form only requires you to affirm citizenship under penalty of perjury. Pinky swears are allowed duuurrr durrrrThis is fully false. You are a liar, not a sage. You are required to provide proof of citizenship already.
Fuck OP this is a good bill
>>532145621>A few years would be a better time frameThe glaring hole in your argument is that dems abjectly refuse to address this and in fact frustrate any attempt to limit voting to citizens.>and any documentation required should be free.Fantasy. Like it or not you are charged to exercise your rights in America.>If more people can't cast a vote on election date due to these laws than there are illegals voting, it's an issue.Every citizen will be perfectly able to vote. There is no “can’t vote” there is only did not care to vote.
>>532145621It will be less than the 40 million illegals that are already counted and giving illegals points which is what are actually counted to win.>Hi I'm imperial but here to argue really hard, claim to be an expert on why proof bad, and resist long enough that there won't be enough time.
>>532146455only 51% of Americans have a passport and nobody is going to go looking around their house for their birth certificate. It's a stupid bill
>>532146417>>532139595
>>532146593>and nobody is going to go looking around their house for their birth certificate. It's a stupid billThere is a reason we do not mandate the voting in America. Who the fuck cares if someone who can’t be assed to do the bare minimum votes?
>>532139971You idiot, how can they be counterfeit if they have a living person's picture on it?This has zero to do about voting.
>>532146912The goalposts for the "bare minimum" keep changing. Registering to vote and providing a drivers license ID should be more than enough. Anything more is just voter suppression
>>532146912As long as you admit you are trying to disenfranchise people and stop gaslighting.
>>532146593If they can't prove who they are and can't afford ID then we can chip them for free so they don't have to suffer being unable to do anything and can't lose it again.
>>532144780lmao? they registered this illegal nigger to vote.
>>532145817What a retard. Everything you said is wrong. Starting with the fact that green card holders can get Real ID. Some states do have their own voter ID laws but that has nothing to do with Real ID.
>>532147483A drivers license is already good enough. The fact that the bill went out of it's way to omit driver licenses means that the goal was always voter suppression.
>>532147384Great, no more driver’s licenses for non citizens and driver’s licenses require proof of citizenship. Say a birth certificate perhaps?
>>532146912>the only people who should be allowed to vote are good little golems that pay for a passport every 24 months and still have their original birth certificateKill yourself kike.
>>532133656This post right here proves once and for all that miggerspammers are retarded shills and trannies
>>532145910You're retarded. This has nothing to do with mail-in ballots which is a separate issue with its own bill that sadly also won't pass because shitlibs love cheating at elections.
>>532147437Your tired play of “anything besides carrying niggers to the polls on your back is disenfranchisement” doesn’t work and is incongruent with global norms. You just use the same lies over and over and get increasingly belligerent.
>>532128691If you're too stupid/lazy to get an ID, then you shouldn't be allowed to vote.Simple as.
>>532147771What problem are you trying to solve by making driver's licenses more difficult to obtain? Drivers licenses work for identification purposes because they have your name and picture printed on them.
>>532147384>>532147745>canadian seething about american voter lawsCry some more for me you shitskin mutant
>>532148008Why are you so invested in something that has nothing to do with you in any way, shape or form curryeater?
>>532147745>Most illegals have drivers licenses so that should be enough
>>532147686I personally know two non-citizen immigrants with real ID. Unfortunately anon’s personal experience is all that is real so we can’t really argue with him.
this thread is the ultimate proof of reddit resetera type flooding this site. We need a new 4chan. We will call it, FourChan.
>>532148086>low IQ Ameri-golemn too stupid to realize that he's advocating for the suppression of his own rights Your elites really do have a strangle hold on your mind. This is fucking hilarious
>>532128691Most voters should be disenfranchised. Also, democracy is gay.
>>532147994Imagine arguing against this. Imagine how fucking stupid or malicious youd have to be. Of course its a bunch of foreigners an their little faggot liberal pets crying about it lmfao
>>532147745>>532148142Some states automatically register you to vote once you get a license so that should be enough
>>532147686Nope Robert Jame Richie, illegals cannot. You have to provide "Proof of Lawful Presence". Nice try though, you lose. No refunds.
>>532148270How are my rights being suppressed in this instance? Please explain in detail. I have everything i need to vote. You dont? Good.
>>532148232Seriously. These loathsome niggers are insufferable.
>>532147918>the only people who should be allowed to vote are good little golems that pay for a passport every 24 months Passports are valid for a decade, you’re lying>and still have their original birth certificateIt does not require your original, only a certified copy. You lied again.
>>532148376Som anon yesterday said a ton of reddito*s were banned after the kirk shooting and came here. I believe it. The “edgy” reddit*rs are obnoxious little fucking queers
>>532147918>every 24 monthsThey can only lie. Its insane.
>>532148343Your elites are arbitrarily deciding what is and isn't valid ID in order to solve a problem that doesn't exist. Next, passports and birth certificates won't be enough and you'll have to buy a government issue national ID that is super duper secure. The overall goal is suppress enough voters that your elites can win elections through only pandering to certain groups.
>>532147923Yea, we've hit some peak shilling since this Iran thing kicked off. Discord/reddit troons started making an effort to raid here again after Kirk, way more than they've done in the years since covid. The volume speaks to an organized effort, likely paid. They should have done this before the last election though but it looks like they aren't going to repeat that mistake this year. Too bad shitlibs have forfeited regular social media and this place has been increasingly irrelevant compared to xitter as of late.
>>532128691>The goal of the SAVE ACT is to disenfranchise votersyeah, niggers, kikes, women, the pedocrat votersthis is based
>>532148601>arbitrarilyLMFAOSorry you wont be able to vote from brampton this year duresh :(
>>532148633It doesnt matter what they do unless they find an actual viable candidate. They still have no one and zero platform after all these years lmfao
>>532148008>What problem are you trying to solve by making driver's licenses more difficult to obtain? You suggested drivers licenses be used to verify citizenship. They cannot. I explained what would be required for them to be valid proof of citizenship. You then accused me of attempted to make drivers licenses harder to get. You are purposely sidestepping my point.>Drivers licenses work for identification purposes because they have your name and picture printed on them.The issue is not identity but citizenship. Of course I wouldn’t expect a Canadian to know that but then again I don’t expect Canadians to voice their uninformed opinions on American politics.
Mail in ballots and ballot harvesting are cheating
>>532128785> You lost, tranny!Never forget that these are the people saying this shit to you
>>532131168Damn right bruder! Own da libz!!!
>>532148929>backup arrivesNo one here supports or gives a fuck about this dude or kristi noem lol. Irrelevant. They could disappear tomorrow and no one would notice you little cunt
>>532148897Answer the question, miggernigger.
>>532148912>old people shouldnt be able to voteBold. Interesting. Would be hard to sell to congress. But I bet vance would be into it.
>>532149018Why are miggers such trannies?
>>532148317Cool, I though only citizens could vote but it’s good to know it’s just "Proof of Lawful Presence"
>>532149115Why does preventing voter fraud upset you?
>>532148601>muh slippery slip
>>532149185Why does king migger pardon criminal voter fraudsters?
>>532129123Those empty fema camps are starting to make sense why they built them
>>532149058>joins thread late>contributes nothing>it’s just nonsense if you have a serious question ask it
>>532149297So youre upset a fraudster was pardoned but strengthening election security also upsets you? Lmfao very dishonest
>>532149116That person would still have to apply for voter registration and there is a person to verify the voter id after the vote. Remember, the real id is ALREADY required, its checked at the door.
Why does Orange Nigger pardon criminal spic narco-traffickers and fraudulent voters, then expect us to believe he cares about stopping drug trafficking and voter fraud? Does he think we’re all as retarded as miggers?
>>532149419Why do you support the pardoning of fraudsters, traitor? Traitors like you should be hanged.
>>532149440Apparently I can do this all day>>532139595Still have not addressed my response btw
Why do miggers support the pardoning of Israeli spies? Is it because they’re all Israeli bots spouting High Treason?
>>532148376Their schtick is to always keep lying and pushing and scheming endlessly until someone finally can't bear it any more and kills them and then their gang can be like >OMG you killed him now we have to do what he wanted. They consider that a win-win since they seethe at not having been aborted.
>>532149523Give it a rest, kike.
>>532149523I dont you argumentative little incel kikel haha
>if I spam irrelevant information maybe they’ll get bored and I can say thay I won
>>532128691>The goal of the SAVE ACT is to disenfranchise votersOh nooooooooo
>>532149401Miggers cannot be debated with in good faith because they are in a cult, and dedicated to defending their cult rather than debatin policy. Miggers are only interested in “gotchas” and owning the libs and have no opinions about policy that aren’t repeated verbatim at Trump’s instruction.
>>532145915You are misinformed. California for example has made it illegal for counties to check citizenship status even if everyone in the county wants to do so to prevent fraud.
>>532149568Oh dont sell yourself short. You could spam misinformation and lies for years I am sure! A faggot like you, maybe a million posts!
>>532148929Very real photo, not AI
>>532128691This is so fucking gaycall this real ID shit was supposed to make ids "more bulletproof"
>>532128785>you lost tranny.>flagok NOW I'm confused
>>532149628>>532149695Trump is a pro-Jewish president and MAGA has no room for antisemites. Do you admit that Trump was wrong to pardon fraudsters and is wrong to be a philosemite? Or are you in a cult and forbidden from criticizing your dear leader?
>>532128691Don’t really care, nigger.
>>532147923Like half of what you said doesn't even make sense
>>532149906Oh wow another one lol jesus
>>532149835Sneethe lmao this is a confirmed fact and he’s not denying it, your migger idols are tranny faggots
>>532128691Always do the opposite of what any Canadian cocksucker says.
>>532149760Weird, that’s not really what this thread shows. Are you sure you read through it?
>>532149185I hate miggers so much, because these things which are good and should happen are tied to their fucking moronic cult and all the good things are going to be thrown out with them. G-d fucking damnit. >Preventing voter fraud: good.>Deporting illegals: good.>Outlawing trannies: good.>Killing USAID: good.>Cutting government spending: good. But guess what? For one thing, they lied about all of that, and for another it's all going to be demonized forever because of these fucking retards. FUCK.
>>532149889I personally dont agree with it, but i do agree with strengthening election security. Youre lucky youre still getting genuine answers disingenuous kike
>>532149786My personal experience is misinformation, yours is reality? Do I have that correct?
>>532150003This thread is nothing but senile miggers making shit up and parroting claims they heard on fox news or boomer facebook. Miggers are incapable of original arguments or nuance. Miggers are in a cult.
>>532149963Fuck Comrade Xi in the mouth with a diseased hobo penis.
>>532150164>this is the guy accusing others of not debating in good faith
>>532149963It used to be funny to mock women until the least fun and most despicable people in the world made it their identity.
>>532150080MAGA has no room for you, antisemite. You will be put in a database for your treason against our Greatest Ally.
>>532150164This thread is a tribute to our brave ICE officers.
>>532150164And you’re so eloquent
>>532150232I agree. Also fuck Netenyahu and Orange Nigger. I curse the blue demon vishnu and denounce the talmud.
>>532150273>Greatest Ally.Hey..how many Palestinian babies does it take to shingle a roof?
>>532150252I tried to argue with miggers in good faith for months and it got me nowhere. I am forced to conclude that you are all disingenuous niggers who cannot be reasoned with. Recent events have only reaffirmed this conclusion.
>>532150164
>>532138447Zero states accept a plain photocopy of your birth certificate at the DMV so you're just making shit up
>>532150451I don’t care about shitskins half a world away (such as Israelis and Palestinians). Glass the whole place so they all shut the fuck up for once.
>>532150489I guess we’ll just take your word for it then. You seem so trustworthy.
>>532150387Fuck Renee Good in her rotting ass with Alex Pretti's decomposing tongue.
>>532150543I notice that miggers think exclusively in anecdotes (the mark of low IQ individuals who cannot handle abstraction or quantitative trends). The question is not whether this happens at all, I’m sure it does, the question is whether the occurrences are statistically significant enough to warrant this legislative effort or whether piecemeal enforcement of existing laws suffices.Miggers are too low IQ to understand these kinds of decision processed due to being high school dropouts who work beaner jobs baking their brains in the sun all day.
>>532150734I agree, FAFO. Aren’t you an edgy boy?
>>532150545>>532150543
>>532150555trump got rid of DEF so hes the best president in living memory just for thatyou obviously have never been near a diesel engine or any kind of manual labor in your life
>>532150046Your cult was going to do them in two weeks?
>>532150877What the fuck is DEF you dumb gorilla nigger
>>532150775See>>532150825California cannot even count the number or know which counties they are in. Anecdotal is 1, data is the plural of anecdotes.
>>532150948It's what Nick Fuentes uses as lubricant when he tongs black assholes.
>>532150989Noncitizens in California don’t get a real ID. They can’t vote. Dumb nigger.
>>532151072Why do I care about Trump banning some brown faggot’s favorite lube.
>>532151092Can you read? >>532150543If it was not an issue, why was a law passed saying you cannot check voters id even when the county wants to d9 so and local voters do too?
All illegals are already voting because they are counted and used to justify more representatives which gives more electrical votes. This is the reason blue areas want sanctuary cities. They want illegal representation regardless of votes but if they can't fake the numbers with mail in votes etc they can't get their guys in.
>>532128691SAVE Act? More like SLAVE Act
>>532151092>They can’t vote.You don't need a real ID to vote. They sign up people at the DMV when they give them a drivers license, and everyone with a DL gets a ballot sent to them, if you ask for it or not. I still get ballots for the previous people that rented my place, and they left for Texas like 4 years ago.
>>532151481Why do chinks, dems, and islamists do thousands of one liner 1pbtids for their pov?
>>532151487Your drivers license is a real id. Mine is at least.
>>532151487This is just not true. You’re watching too much fox news. You can choose to register when you get your license, if you’re a citizen, but you don’t automatically get registered by sheer virtue of having gotten a license. The ballots showing up at your house are a red herring.There’s no evidence of significant non-citizen voting in elections. I can’t find any numbers backing up the migger claims on this, and neither can the miggers. It’s all just anecdotes and whataboutism.
>>532152384Some licenses are real ids, yes, but not all and not by default.
>>532151692Go back to India
>>532152384Here in Caliwali, it is not. You can get either.
>>532152505I've lived in Caliwali my entire life. You have to actively say you don't want to register every fucking time you're at the DMV. The DMV's here are 90% non-Whites. It's a wild place to visit.
