Why are Protestants so weird?
>>532131827Is not a religion for everybodyMore like satanism with crosses, like a vampire movie
>>532131827Every abrahamist needs to be silenced
>>532131827Why do catholics worship a woman?
>>532131827the Last Christian that I knew died 1994.
>>532131982jews say this because they're the children of satan, not Abraham.
>>532132002It's in Old English.
>>532132002say what you want they are the sanest wester christians
Linux of Christianity
>>532132002Because she is the Mother of God
>>532132132Sure whatever Christcuck/pedophile prophet worshipper/kike. I’m sure following some flavor of sand faith makes you really own the jews, lmao
>>532131936Unironically
>>532131827Because Protestantism was invented by Germans and subsequently refined by retarded americans
>>532132002Yeah, that's worship. Mary can't save you from nuthin' is part of the faith. Jesus is our savior and redeemer and anyone who says someone else is a savior is a pagan. This pagan thing started the very next Pope after Pope Greg 16 took out a Rothschild loan and secret agreements were made. It's not from the seat of Saint Peter either... It goes against how Lord said the Keys of Heaven work. So, if you Mary worship, you deny Christ. There were three false Popes that did this. They ask the Bishops, they then say the Bishops said it, and people think that from the seat of saint Peter. Nope. The lord was clear. Freemasons are not allowed to try and change the faith, they can only let people stray from the faith. Only the faithful themselves can destroy the Church. I could write a book about this. The Christians used to burn these Mary Worshipers as pagans leading souls to hell.
>>532132002Worshipping a woman seems less faggy than to bow down in front of a man (that's also supposed to be God yet piss and shit just like us)
We are literally in end times right now. The war between Gog and Magog is between the west and Russia, and the war is at the interface of the Aryan and Mongoloid races in the far North. Everything is exactly as described in the bible.
>>532132322Christ said his mother is not blessed for giving birth to Him. Bible and true popes speaking from the chair.
>>532132002Worship isn't/wasn't synonymous with latria, and was general term applied to the state of being worthy of something or deserving respect. Hence why we still use "his worship" for mayors and magistrates. Nowadays it is most often tasken to mean latria or adoration, which is not what Catholics ascribe to Mary. They don't worship Mary in the sense you mean, they ascribe to her what is called hyperdulia, which is explicitly distinct.
do catholics not read the bible or something?
>>532132444>Protestantism was invented by Germansif only
>>532132561Some women can be based, like Deborah in the bible who was a Judge.Most women though are evil skanks
>>532132355I'm just gonna point out you're incoherently ranting e.g. Jesus was not a "Kike" - kikes by definition hate Jesus. So, yeah, you're obviously ranting.
>>532132680Literally no other people could ever invent something that is so autistic and retarded at the same time but them.Well,aye the English but they are German mutts anyway
>>532132646>Bible and true popes speaking from the chair.Nothing "true" abut Luke (except the Q bits) and certainly not popes.
>>532131827Protestants was deliberately brought about by secret societies as a way to destabilize Roman Catholic power, as up until that time the Church dominated European political power. For instance a King couldn't be crowned or a royal marriage couldn't take place without the Pope's blessing.
>>532132646This translation sucks also this statement by Our Lord affirms and clarifies veneration of His Mother- rather than venerating here because she happens to be His Mother, she must be venerated because she above all other human persons “heard the word of God and obeyed it,” so much so that the Word became Flesh in her.
>>532132002protestantism was exported to latam as a counter movement to zog dissidence by the cia and you're basically a zog tool and fucking retardhttps://www.sdmorrison.org/when-the-cia-conspired-to-crush-liberation-theology/
>>532132681Speaking of DeborahNo one's named DeborahIt's always DebbyAnd that's lameAlso there's Phoebe who's leading the liturgy due to men shortage
>>532132677The Bible says if you try "bible alone" you won't understand it. That's why there is one Christian faith and 2000 protestant faiths. They only thing protestants have in common is rabid hate of the Christian faith and some sin they use to sell their church. e.g. Anglicans and what The Lord said was adultery (divorce and remarriage). Prots are big on taking one small verse out of context. The Bible was created under the guidance of God the Holy Spirit at the Second council of Rome. All of it was divinely inspired. The Western Christian Church has one Bible, the Latin Vulgate. Everything else is a translation or a heresy.
>>532132002Better than worshiping a pedo like protestants do.
>>532133037yeah honestly idk what you're trying to saygog and magog are mentioned in both the old and new testament, if you don't recognize their meaning you probably just aren't much of a christian
>>532131827Chirac was so based. If he was alive right now, you'd be hearing him tell trump to fuck off on live TV. instead, the french got macron (And they deserve this)
How come, if atheist are so smart, that Atheists don't know that women are unfit for authority and will not stand on principles if social norms go against them?The super Smart atheists never mentioned this, nor have they ever confessed a faith that works. And due to the atheists, the white race (the children of God) have a birth rate that dooms the people of God to extinction?
>>532133117Gog is the leader of a land called Magog (Ezekiel 38-39 who leads an army against the people of God. So, basically, not Christian. Like protestants, who put Luther before Christ.
>>532132758germans act so retarded because they keep listening to german jews
>>532133376are you a bot?this has nothing to do with whether or not gog and magog are christian. The point is that catholics don't read the bible
>>532132853where in the Bible did Christ say venerate his mother, or that she was blessed for being his mother? Even you admit that her virtue is she obeyed God and was humble as a woman should be. the Son of God was clear; it had nothing to do with her being His Mother. Yet, here are bad Catholics doing the pagan Roman Vestual Virgin worship. The Church used to burn you guys as you are a danger to the souls of others. I know why; they sold the faith for money. Women got the right to own property, and greedy folks in the church wanted widows to leave their property to the Church. Jesuits were bad about doing that.
>>532132660I fully believe that you and many other Catholics are totally sincere Christians, but you have to admit there is a problem with the cult like focus on Mary in the Catholic church. I've been to the Vatican and other Catholic sites and cathedrals in America and the main focus of all these places is Mary 80-90% of the time. The cathedral will be dedicated to Mary, there will be a big statue of Mary, the art behind the Altar will feature Mary front and center, there will be shrines to Mary. I'm not exaggerating at all when I say that in Rome there are at least as many depictions and references to Mary as there are of Jesus (if not more) and 10x more than any of the other saints. The fact that adoration vs worship has to be explained in such a painstaking way to people not in the faith should make it obvious that there is a problem with the way the church portrays what it focuses on.
>>532132002you to come from a woman
>>532133614I think you're gibbering lies that you heardTiresome... You keep making the same assertion and don't provide a citeAnd even if, you are outside the Church and the Bible says you won't understand the Bible without the Church, so it doesn't matter, you don't have the church and you don't understand it if you read it or don't2000 other denominations, obviously at LEAST 1999 don't understand the Bible.The Son of God created a Church. You believe that the Lord acted in vain. You're not even Christian.
>>532133945you are actually either a bot or a schizo lmao
>>532133850The Church said, at the Council of Trent, that the only thing you can ask of a Saint is that the Saint pray for you. "Holy Mary mother of God, pray for us". That's okay, it's literally scripture and Trent approved asking for the saint to pray for us. But all things come from God. That's why we pray to God for God's grace of our food. Prays to Mary for promises, exceptions to the judgement of the Lord, or believe that Mary can save you, is all forbidden by the Christian faith. Mary was not perfect. She is not a co-redeemer. She is not Queen of Heaven. That was not party of the faith for the first 1800 years of the church.
>>532133711>that she was blessed for being his mother? >Hail, Mary, full of grace,>the Lord is with thee.>Blessed art thou amongst women
>>532134037ah. Ad homs. Off you go now! Can't reason with the unreasonable. It's like playing chess with a pidgeon. You shit on the board and knock the piece over. At least you're laughing and seem happy.
>>532134304Yeah. For obedience to God. And obviously, since she was carrying the Christ child, the Lord was with her and she was literally full of the Grace of the Son of God.
>>532131827>americans are protestants and they practice circumcision>jews practice circumcision>muslims practice circumcisionthese conflicts are just circumcision wars. mutilated crazies fighting each other. that's why europe and other normal places like asia tend to just look at these conflicts from the side in disbelief, and immediately regret it if they make the mistake of joining in.
>>532132523No Satan Etruscans and Trojans and arpanean were Roman Catholic aka true christians mabus Nostradamus mason bush protestants needs to be burned at the stake and slaughtered kjv bible bushsmd how s faggots pedo dog fuxking mafia
>>532132444Luther is jew cock suxk protestanism starts with anglicana Scottish rite hias adl bani hit brith mm hadassah and zog mason bush aka mabus rotted your skull is i fuckingmarxisst gay inbred demon see of bolshevik hit and bullsht htoenmdaol ni Petain Franco right andgoo nice
>>532132002do you not worship your mother cocksucker? your probably dont. All you epstein christians should be nuke?
>>532132523Jesus and Mary with other two created mankind eve is crated in 3 person holy Trinity earth trinity fake moon rocks zellerbach and Dems and installed anti popes america is a communist state a big one
>>532134759Christian (you call them Catholic) teaching is that infant Baptism replaced Circumcision. Baptism marks the soul as belonging to God. The Christians have not required circumcision as a religious requirement for almost 2000 years. Acts 15:20, the requirement was dropped about 50 AD.
>>532132680Wrong Satan Luther in ell Christ and Mary are ny ewa that's est catholic of st Robert bellarmine taught aka real christians
>>532131827Because they rejected Christ.
>>532132002imagine being a brazillian evangelicalcuck and knowing your bloodline was succesfully mindraped by low iq amerimutt missionaries
>>532133711Your gay "church" didn't exist until 1992, when Pastor Billy Bob read the Bible twice while doing a stint in prison for meth possession. He became "born again' and rented a shed to fleece protestant cucks.
>>532131827YOU BETTER DUCK CHRISTKEKYAH! SON OF A BISCUIT!
>>532135133irrelevant to what i said. american protestants practice circumcision, which is why they're insane along with the other circumcisers.
>>532135249Answer the question faggot. The Bible was complied by the earliest church fathers who didnt venerate Mary....do you think Peter the first pope venerated Mary? Did the first Gen after the apostles who built the catholic church pray to the recently dead apostles or Mary?
>>532131827This would be hilarious if it didn't result in millions of deaths in Irak and the rest of the middle east.Also I bet that the handful of protestants in France who are probably sober old school Lutheran/Huguenots didn't know what that maniac was babbling about either.
>>532135249That didn't answer my question of where in the Bible does it say to worship Mary. And you're clearly not even serious, or know how Mary worship entered the Church in the 19th century. or how a Pope's instruction to stop burning Mary worshipers was misconstrued as Mary worship not being heretical and blasphemy. I don't think you're mature enough for this discussion.
>>532132002Should you worship the mother of God or the state of Israel, prostie?>inb4Yes, we already know most of you are cryptoadoptionists and don't believe she gave birth to a god, which is why this is such a sensitive topic for you
>>532135401>we wuz original Christians
>>532135412American Protestantism is kinda... special. Like short bus special. I don't know a nicer way to put it.
>>532132523I am Orthodox and I never understood that worship, we venerate Mary as a saint and she is holy yes, but I saw some Catholics who straight worship her as a Woman-God, they don't even pray to Jesus ffs and it's crazy and straight up borderline pagan. Mary is seen as a supreme being higher than Trinity just because she gave birth to God-Son and it's retarded, she is simply holy mother and doesn't hold any authority over Lord
>>532135588>Should you worship the mother of God or the state of Israel,false dilemma fallacy and how does one preclude the other even if?
>>532131827You don't get it. The war of goy and magoy will bring forth the rapture!
>>532135588I worship Jesus.Mary gave birth to the Christ man Jesus. Jesus was both 100% human and 100% divine.The seed of Abraham, the true Israel of the promise are all saved Christians.All who don't put their faith in Jesus are damned to hell, no exceptions.Have a nice day, brother.
>>532135270He lost btw, his platform is dying while gypsy gets like 4k viewers live and another 10-50k on the uploads.
>>532133850>I've been to the Vatican and other Catholic sites and cathedrals in America and the main focus of all these places is Mary 80-90% of the time.you're lying. the vast majority of icons with Mary depict her holding the baby Jesus
>>532131827They think they're going back to the Christianity before Catholism, but they ended up just emulating Judaism.
>>532135741I agree. I knew something was wrong when I was 5 years old and the nun at catechism was telling us about Mary. And again in the confessional at 60 when father told me as penance for not believing Pope Frank was a real pope to say the deloras rosary. The what? I prayed a rosary thinking that he said, but looked it up. It literally mocks the suffering of Christ at the Crucifixion , the entire sacrifice to fulfill mosaic law, and Mary's suffering on the same level as that of the Lord. That's when I said enough. I'm Christian, not a goddamned Marionist.
>>532136042reminder... "catholic" (and orthodox, for that matter) is an adjective that describes the Christian Churchthe word "catholic" is not a proper noun, and the renaming of the Church from Christian to "Catholic" is a lie told by protestants to put their damned churches on the same level as the Church founded by Christ. In their deception, the Catholic church is just another denomination of Christian. Protestants are no more Christians than Jews are Judeans. Just as protestants put their faith in Luther and not Christ, Jews put their faith in the demonic Talmud and not the Torah
>>532136399sorry bud, you're damned tooorganized churches ALL have it wrong
>>532132002Do you not love your mother?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3H_mNXda4rE
>>532131827bush jr was a clueless college jock
>>532135904>being called brother by a braziliapeouch that stings
>>532136555>Christ acted in vain when he created the church and priest who could forgive sins in His name. The Lord did nothing in Vain. if you think he did, you don't believe he was the Son of God.
>>532136399>LutherMost protestants aren't going to know who luther is.
>>532137146>christ created a church and priestsyou've completely inverted what christ actually taughtunsurprising, as most materialistic belief systems do this with some part or another of his teachings
>>532133891i come from pictures of big tiddy catgirls
>>532132322wait then wouldnt she be god if she created the creator?
>>532136558>Do you not love your mother?no, she paid a doctor to cut off most of my penis
>>532137328Mathew 16, Christ created the church based on Simon Peter, to whom God the father almighty revealed that Jesus was his only son. To no other apostle was this revelation made. Thus God the Father, creator of all things seen and unseen, identified Saint Peter as the cornerstone of the Church, and the Lord gave Peter alone the keys to heaven; the keys being faith and morals. Sorry you don't believe the Christian bible. What are you doing in this discussion, since you are not christian?
>>532132132>WE WUZ KANG DAVID
>>532137620decades or centuries later, you guys created a new definition of "church" and decided that jesus meant what was convenient for you politically and sociallyyou retroactively converted jesus from a spiritual leader into a politicianthe church is just all the people who believe in jesus, not an institution with earthly power. his kingdom is not of this world, remember?
>abrahamiggers fighting eachotherIts by design.
>>532137961Jesus meant the same church that existed at the time for the Judeans. Then why did Christ teach in the Church aka Synagogues? Why did he go to the Priests of the Judeans? Why did he create priests?Why do you lie about what the Lord said like a devil? Yes, His kingdom is in Heaven. But he created the Church, and your frantic and pathetic attempt to stay OUT of His Church and make yourself your own God is irrelevant.
>>532132002satan's thumb
>>532138157correct. the Christian church effectively threw the jews out at the Council of Basel in 1430. The jews created protestants by picking some dumbass heretics like Luther and funding him. That opened the doors to usury by the german princes, and usury gave them the money to wage war on the Christians under the guise of "Church reform".
>>532131827because like all delusional child rape apologiststhe God they worship is a complete and total shit on the floorlike all cult membersthe sick insanity of the child rape god jesusspreads and makes them as much of a shit on the floor as he is
This is more an evangelical thing and yes they're weird
>>532138179What is the point of a church that preaches in a language no one understands? Then uses that as a way to trick people?
>>532138179>Church aka Synagoguesyou seem to have no problem bending the definitions of words to justify the existence of the vaticanyou aren't seeking truth, as christ's followers all did. you've got a foregone conclusion and you're going to move heaven and earth to justify it
>>532131827mericans arent christian, they worship the devil.
>>532131827Too White, it's just not normal
>>532139285almost everyone claiming to be a religious leader anywhere doeshere's an easy test: has a person presenting himself to others as a religious leader taken a vow of poverty and renounced material wealth?no?that person doesn't follow christ
>>532133219breaking: women have no sense of justice, more news at 11.
>>532132322Blasphemous
>>532133219men:>someone suffers, its a criminal though so its deserved.women:>omg someone is suffering, how cruel. punish the persecutor.women seem to be lacking the ability to apply any additional thoughts & concepts to any situation or circumstance, they seem to be living in perpetual present where only the most immediate emotions matter without any context or abstract concept having meaning. no wonder they were confined to household & childrearing duties in the past, in any other fields they would wreak absolute havoc. objective reality must be a mystery to them.
>>532138976A common protestants argument... Latin was the universal language at the time. if you could read at all, you probably could read in Latin. All the educated folks read in Latin. If you traveled, you could converse in Latin with the local parish priests. One dead language ensure that the faith would not be corrupted by mistranslations or local idiomsAgain, look at what happened to the protestants... rather than one church there are now 2000 of them, all preaching something different, all of them corrupted by mistanslations intentionally made.
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>>532139165>baseless assertions about your perceptions.How do I respond to your delusions? I don't even know what is in your delusions.
>>532140788>delusionsyou just redefined "church" to mean "synagogue", moshe
>>532133219>>532133219
>>532132426Kek, protestants started america, rule UK, and dominate in German
>>532139285>mericans arent christian, they worship the devil.well, yes. No one seems to want to worship the Triune God. They have two gods.... jew gold and jew silver. The better protestant religions are just social and business clubs. The business being occult discrimination based on religion like the Mormons jews and freemasons do.
>>532139875exactly!The Bible knew this. Atheists don't.
>>532131982This. Kill every single abrahamist (kike, christard and mudslim) and the world will be a better place
>>532140861A synagogue is the same thing as a church.
>>532132002>Raise asherah poles>Worship holes If Jews werent kikes, they'd be right.
>>532140714Fantastic. How does that help the common people?
>>532141111Every trans faggot will die eventually. Many faster than others. Soon you will know why.
>>532140866This!! Women cannot think logically. The law says that if an alien commits a felony, they Visa is canceled and they're deported. Women cannot wrap their minds around this being just and fair. It's why women cannot be priest. it's why women cannot be in charge of men. it's why women cannot hold political officeIt's why women cannot vote. It's why women cannot own property in their own name, it must be held by their husbands, their sons, or the church.
>>532141338>A synagogue is the same thing as a church.ahahahahahahahahHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHare you sure you're not a protestant????
>>532141449It keeps the faith the same. if you really want to know more, you have two options:1) Learn Latin (best choice)2) Read a church approved translation into a language you understand (you have to trust the translation tho')
>>532141592personal incredulity is a logical fallacy. Am I supposed to respond to insanity and gibber?Fallacies are gibber.
>>532131827>>532132002I never understood how people write their own fanfic and argue over fandoms but realizng that religion is the same thing as a fandom it makes sense. I guess thats why I am agnostic, I just never cared for any of this fanboy shit.
>>532141811>bro you can't respond to my fallacy with a fallacyaren't we just bantering at this point?
>>532141531Good, that sounds great. Will you join them too?
>>532131827I'm pretty sure there is a big book of Bushisms. It has all the retarded shit that nigga said during his 2 terms. I have no idea if it has that reference though.
>>532141875No. you're being dense intentionally. yes, Church "ekklesia" means a gathering of people, usually in a buildingThe building is the Synagogue up until 70 to 120 AD. About that time, the Talmudist were causing a lot of Trouble in the Empire, making the pagan emperor Hadrian powerfully angry, and he destroyed the Talmudists. The Christians wanted to make sure that they were not mistaken for the demons, so they started calling themselves Christians and not Judeans (the word "Jew" wasn't invented until 1500 iirc) and their Synagogue became "Church buildings".
Friendly reminder that kikes, christards and mudslims are all the same crap made up by some schizo from the middle a desert
>>532142282Kikes believe in the pagan babylonian talmud. Islam believes in a pagan moon god. Neither of these are of the religion of Moses and Abraham.
>>532132002God was birth through nuit, catholicism is not as exoteric as they want t appear to the normies attending mass
>>532142255so when jesus said "ekklesia", he actually meant "sunagoge" (a separate greek word also found in the same text), and both of these things actually mean a global empire which is ackshewally also the levitical priesthood from the pentateuch and collects the corresponding tax ("tithe") and funnels it to a city in italy? and this is what jesus meant when he said "on this rock i will build my church"?you've become completely unanchored from the text, the meanings of the words in it, and the message conveyed by those words, all to pretend you don't worship mammon
>>532143301Just go your way. Maybe stop being "that guy" Saint Jude wrote about in his epistle. tired of your lies and pretending to be stupid. I'm not going to repeat myself for your taunts and ego.
>>532143478it seems more like you just can't defend the incoherent, blasphemous garbage the catholic church uses to justify its existence
>>532132002Dunno. Why do you glorified noahide cuckolds worship an alien race?
>>532132523>Mary can't save you from nuthin' is part of the faith.The Lord lostens to His Holy Perpetual Virgin Mother just like he did in Cana.If He listened to Her for petty things such as wedding wine, wouldn't it stand to reason to listen to Her even more on crucial matters such as SOUL SALVATION? Yes The Lord Rules but listens to His Holy Virgin Mother and makes His decision taking into account Her wishes and pleas.
>>532135741>doesn't hold any authority over LordShe has InfluenceAnd the Greatest OneCana wedding
>>532143666>Mary controls The LORD, who has to do her every whim.No.
>>532143666reminder that Christ also did the bidding of the pagan woman and cured her daughter. That doesn't mean that Lord has to answer to the pagans all the time.
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>>532144462Nice try, godless one. Matthew 3:9New International VersionAnd do not think you can say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham as our father.’ I tell you that out of these stones God can raise up children for Abraham.
>>532135588Total abrahamic death
I’ve read Neolithic Europe leaned more on cosmology than the meds theology, remnants of the religions are celebrated by pretty much every white person still, Easter, midsummer, Halloween, Christmas, and a handful of others are all prechristian european celebrations tied to time/season, many older ruins built in relation to various stars, stone henge, gobleki tepe, etc
>>532133850I don't buy any of this. My town's patron saint is Mary, the cathedral is dedicated to Mary. Most of the depictions in it are of Jesus, behind the altar is a large cross with Jesus on it, and whenever Mary is depicted it is always while holding Jesus. I am willing to bet you are just a turboautist who goes into a fit whenever they see a work of art that's isn't depicting Jesus Christ.
>>532132002Uhh akctually cathocucks only venerate the Virginian!
>>532140873>and dominate in GermanThe Catholic German south is the much wealthier region.
>>532131827all Christians are Jewish golems./thread
Do French Christians believe that dinosaur fossils are a hoax by the devil as Americans believe?
humanity built nuclear bombs and then put people who believe in sorcery and witchcraft in charge of them
>>532131827You feeling that way is a sign for you to start reading the Bible and getting in the game. It's about taking the throne, not wondering why the throne exists. Spanish will never take off.
>>532144577The eastern church is a mess because the eastern church refused to accept the word of Christ 1000 years ago. (they wanted the money and power of being the seat of Christianity)The western church is a mess because the western church was bribed with shekels 200 years ago. (wanted to keep the papal states more than the faith)
I see the jews have finally shown up and are doing their hateful and childish prattle. Too them awhile. I guess they were busy defending their legalization of torture, murder and genocide.
>>532144609the problem is that mary is a side character whose entire role in jesus' ministry was to sit at the door being ignored one time, then get demoted to "not any more special than any of my other followers"dedicating cathedrals to her contradicts jesus' own words pretty directly, similar to most other catholic teachings
>>532145279agreed.
>>532137564Most?Kek what a small dick
>>532132264>WesternYou nailed it. Catholicism was a necessary diversion from the faith, the same can be argued for the early American protesttants. The age of the church split is at an end. The revival of Christianity modernly called Orthodox is upon us
>>532145791Catholicism has the faith written down, and it never changes. A later pope cannot change a prior pope who spoke from the chair. This is why I say there are no Christians. Orthodox have "saints" they quote and they can change the faith just by quoting different "saints", they deny the word of Christ in Matthew 16Protestants have 2000 different religions, depending upon who the pastor is. they deny most of the bible.
>>532146092>Catholicism has the faith written down, and it never changessome sinister shit is happening these days where some guys say there are no Pope (and nothing good comes from this) and some other guys who are the majority say that there is no problem on Pope saying every way leads to God or some infamous things like this (and what good comes from this? I dunno, maybe something? But too many ugly things come from this).In the southern hemisphere we have liberation theology and the charismatic renewal, and they act, dress and speak like heretics. Shits fucked like this in the US too? About the catholic parishs
>>532131827All protestantism is bad but this rapture and judeo-dispensation stuff about waging wars in favor of Jews to precipitate the end times is mostly American (including South with the spics they managed to recently convert in favelas). It technically was started by some Anglo-Irish protestants here but they quickly sailed to the US when they failed to find an audience in yurop.
>>532132646You purposefully mistranslated it, there is no "rather" its not a negation, its a completion. Also, in its context, it means Christ's obligation toward Humanity preceded his familial ones.
>>532137620This is why I always preferred the French translation. "Je dis, tu es Pierre, et sur cette pierre je batirai mon Eglise"The homophony between Peter and "rock" underlines it much better.
