I made threads about quitting those pills before, because I was lowering the dose. I am now entirely off them.This is brutal. I had been taking them for years. It feels like waking up from a dream in a sense. So many realizations hit me, too. I had been wasting my time HARD.I got the covid vaccine when it came out. I was on the kikepills and didn't really question things. I had an entirely different personality. I now regret it. People act like if you got the vax then you're goycattle, stupid etc, but I truly had a different personality.I also now get furious about politics. About how governments dictate high home prices and young generations suffer as a result. I think Europe fully deserves to collapse and I do not feel bad about it happening. I did not use to be radicalized about this.I am also now of course antisemitic. Although I have jewish friends, but overall I do think that some of them are great but it's also true that jews tend to create problems.Some people think that psych meds are meant to help people cope with a bad system that should be itself fixed, and I disagree, I don't think most people are suffering. I did not take the pills "to not feel bad about a system that is bad for people", I just have an exceptionally hard life. I do not think normies suffer or that they need any pills to cope. But that's over. My life is still hard but now I want to be off the pills. I don't need them, I am good at coping anyway, and was never really depressed. I am really good at going out in a sunny day (being in Spain helps) and just taking a walk and truly enjoying it, even if my life is awful.I am currently adapting and struggling but I am sure I can adapt. Today has been awful though, I was on edge all day.Btw I am sorry if this is not political. I think it is because its related to covid vax, housing prices, jews, the system and psych meds ... hence posting it here.
>>532157262Yeah, too late. Into the meatgrinder ya go, looney-tunes!
You need B vitamins.Not joking. If you're coming off meds, supplement for a while.
>>532157262>I stopped taking psych pills entirelygood for you! hope the brain damage reverses. maybe you wont write novels on a taiwanese basketweaving forum.
>>532157434I eat like 2kg of red meat a week, would that be enough?
>>532157479honestly man even if the brain damage doesn't reverse, i am still better off than someone who thinks that's too long
>>532157479>hope the brain damage reversesit doesn't work like that.
>>532157754wdymit is already reversing, i was numb as fuck and now im not
>>532157479the only based move is taking the prescription meth, sssris suck ass
>>532157262Good for you brother. I've long suspected psych meds are the reason most people have become docile and prone to manipulation. Women are so broken by antidepressants they don't even seem human anymore. Lots of my coworkers did "therapy", and suggested I join them in order to cope with bullshit jobs that don't pay enough yet demand ridiculous workloads and undeserved loyalty. In the end they numbed their minds to make themselves better suckers.It's good to see you have decided to awaken from your slumber and see this shitshow with your own eyes. If more people did this we could work to make a better world instead of accepting it.
>>532158917Thanks fren I agreeI wonder what % of normies are on these pills. If it is a significant % then they truly are numbing the population to just wageslave and just take it.
>>532157565>>532157810Former mental health professional here. It’s doubtful that youve damaged your brain beyond repair. The brain cells that are gone are not coming back back you will create new neural pathways to compensate and should be as good as new as long as you don’t take any more psych meds. I’ve seen people come back from worse drugs. Hardcore alcohol abuse will really fuck your brain more so than psych meds not to mention crack and heroin. Some can even come back from meth but it highly depends on your starting IQ
>>532159821It's still sad to hear. I thought if you stop taking the pills, all effects go away, not that it does some permanent damage.
>>532159821still thanks for the explanation fren
>>532160241I don’t really know because I don’t know what you took but I’ve seen older Thorazine patients who had the shuffles with their feet couldn’t walk right or speak well and that was obviously from the Thorazine. The newer drugs are supposed to be more mild. You should be fine.
>>532157262>"I stopped taking psych pills">inb4 "this is the head of mike mohn"
>>532160939it was 20mg vortioxetine for like 5 years>>532161066nah it was antidepressants
>>532157262Don't be sorry. Schizo threads are best threads
>>532157262lol, I think I have manic depression (aka bipolar disorder) and I self-medicated with alcohol and cigarettes all this time.
>>532161395also no vaccine and between 2020-2025 I never had covid or even a simple cold.
>>532161395jfl i recommend you don't do that ngl. alcohol is pretty bad for youif you can learn to cope it can be controlled, even if it seems impossible. i think the key is paying attention to how your mind works and that way you can learn to cope, it is unironically a skill, i mentioned taking walks when the weather is good, but it takes real skill to understand how the mind works so that you can make this go away. i was on edge all the time due to my childhood, now making progress.
>>532161119Your should always research the drug you are about to to take. A quick google search shows it kills your libido so it’s probably lowering testosterone which will really fuck you up.>>532161395Bi polar doesn’t exist. You have a demon
>>532157262good for you
>>532161786it didnt kill libido that much, i was on another one that did and i stopped taking it bc i couldnt goon, this one somewhat did, though
>>532157262Hey man sorry about your other thread with the hypothetical, I was going to reply but before I could post it 404’d. I wish I had what I typed out saved since you made an interesting point.
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>>532157262Also I did the same shit, I was on that shit for over a decade (from childhood to early 20s) and it was like living in a fog. Legit I had trouble remembering most of my teenage years as everyday more or less just blended together. Once I was off I had to learn how to feel emotions and then actually control them since I was put on that shit because no one wanted to teach me how to deal with shit. SSRIs are fucked and they make you into either a zombie or a histrionic manchild. And so many of them are addictive like withdrawals with shakes and shit level addictive. I have a very low opinion of the mental health industry and do not trust anyone who can prescribe that shit to anyone. Therapists can be chill but it’s kind of a crapshoot depending on who you get. Sometimes it’s an idealistic type who wants to help, and others it’s a psycho who was abused and wants to harness the same methods that were used against them on a more “professional scale” it’s like if your dad cut you up with a knife as a kid so you become a doctor to learn where to slice someone to know where to cause the most amount of pain.
>>532162539thanks fren what was it?
>>532159726it's probably like 80% of women and 30% of men
>>532157262I got prescribed an SSRI once by a psych that litterally just listened to me for 5 minutes, told me to take them and didn't explain at all how they work or the possible risks.Obviously I said "fuck that" and never even bought them.ADHD stimulant meds are an actual godsend though. The only difference I felt when I got off for a few months to see what changes i noticed was that doing litterally anything and paying attention when people talked to me was harder and that my room would get full of plates snd clothes I left around again.
>>532162988I feel for you fren. That's so fucking brutal. Being in a fog and suddenly not knowing how to handle emotions is exactly it.Yes they're really addictive. I coped with the withdrawals with alcohol at first (in a very controlled way, and now not anymore).I used to think these people could be trusted, as in, "they're the professionals, they have it figured out". But really, there's no one at the wheel in a sense, as in, the authority figures we're supposed to trust are just some idiots who give you hardcore drugs to feel better and think they're helping.>Therapists can be chill but it’s kind of a crapshoot depending on who you get. Sometimes it’s an idealistic type who wants to help, and others it’s a psycho who was abused and wants to harness the same methods that were used against them on a more “professional scale” it’s like if your dad cut you up with a knife as a kid so you become a doctor to learn where to slice someone to know where to cause the most amount of pain.Fuck. Did a therapist abuse you like that?I mostly just found them kind of dumb. I first went to one therapist from the public healthcare system. She gave me priority as an urgent case and I got one appointment a month even though they're overwhelmed. But she was kind of just giving me normie advice. Later I went to a paid therapist and she was unironically just listening to me and pretending to be my friend and seemed to think that was good enough, and then I had to pay her 60€ for 1 hour.Now I'm going to the public system again, one appointment every two months this time. And at first I thought, "she never tells me anything I don't know, but at least I'm not paying". But I've been noticing that she's kind of trying to, when I tell her something like "i know its stupid but i've been anxious about X" she tries to tell me that it in fact makes sense and I had a point, and why. And it's making me trust my judgement more despite being gaslit growing up.
>>532157510>300g a dayThat's toddler-tier. Level up.
>>532163772That's way too much. Fuck. If this is true there's something deeply wrong with society, and people are either miserable and something needs to be done about that, or they're being prescribed dangerous drugs too much. And it must be affecting politics because it really numbs you.
>>532164553claro tu eres argentino, alla comeis pura carne no?
>>532159726In spain, I'd say 30-40% ish of people between the ages of 25 and 40 are on them, with the younger ones taking more. A ton of people start going to a psychiatrist during their quarter life crisis, especially women who get hit the hardest by reality after leaving college disneyland and a lot of psychs give that shit out like it is ibuprofen.
>>532164624Hasta que apareció el puto de Milei, sí.Ahora está carísima. 18 USD el kg cuando antes pagaba 3 o 4 dólares como mucho.
>>532164701Madre de dios. 18usd con los sueldos argentinos.Hace poco estuve en Argentina y ya me jodio que el carrefour tenia literalmente precios de España. Disco no tanto pero tampoco era mucho mas barato. Pensé, los argentinos deben estar bien jodidos. Eso en navidad de 2023
>>532157262>didn’t readur a faggot normie>letting the psychjew give u pills and medskys normalfag and gtfo my board 4nr
>>532164489Are you a woman? If you are a guy, I really would suggest going to a male therapist instead (same thing if you sre a woman but with a female therapist).A good therapist from a dofferent gender might know how to empathise and what techbiques to use, but lots of thinking patterns are exclussive to each gender and it is just not the same to know about it than to actually have lived through it.Unfortunately most therapists are women and most good male therapists are private because there's lots of wealthy dudes with mental health issues and not that many male therapists around.
>>532164885ufff, no. Todo se encareció al triple ahora (medido en dólares)Realmente no sé cómo vive la gente. Y los precios siguen subiendo todos los meses (3% al mes promedio).
>>532164885Aqui nos pasa igual pero con los alemanes eh. Si vas a un super aleman esta todo igual o incluso más barato y eso que ganan casi el triple.
>>532164288>doing litterally anything and paying attention when people talked to me was harder and that my room would get full of plates snd clothes I left around again.this literally me, ive wondered if i have adhd, im not hyperactive at all though
>>532164629Responding in English because otherwise mods may not like it.Since I quit the pills one of the ways in which I changed is that, politics but specially home prices make me very angry. Very very angry. Of course other things such as grocery prices and taxes too, but specially housing because that's specially vile. I know politicians do it on purpose, it's not that they're not helping, they are actively dictating high prices, and that's very radicalizing.Some people are worse off than me, they work all day for very little, and the landlord takes half. I wonder how many of them are on these numbing drugs, and how different politics could be if they weren't. It's pretty sad. Btw in case normies didn't know, Trump admitted to cause this problem on purpose and people didn't even react.
>>532165085>>532165095we'll have to continue talking in english frens because otherwise they may delete the thread>>532165095i know. this is a shitholeits just that argentina is even worse so i thought "people here really are struggling">>532165085brutal as fuckthe average argentinian lives on polenta i guess
>>532165439Hey, are you the anon that used to post in the sayanim threads? If not disregard my post.
>>532165698no
>>532164288>Obviously I said "fuck that" and never even bought them.high IQ
>>532157262>I just have an exceptionally hard life. Ihow is your life hard ?
>>532165032I am a guy. This makes sense ngl. Though if the therapist is a turbonormie idk how much he could relate.
>>532166014Shit childhood with abuse at home, this was incredibly hard to cope with and make a comeback from, it fucks you up mentally in an extreme way. It's not just "i am sad because my parents were mean", abuse was all I knew for most of my life and I was so fucked up. It was legitimately hard to even interact with normal people even in my 20s, and I still had to in order to have a job and be self sufficient without them.
>>532165231You might still have it. ADHD is kinda like autism in that there is a spectrum of symptomes and magnitudes it can manifest as depending on the person.In my case, I have the attention issues, fidgetting and talk unnaturally fast because I often forget my train of thought mid conversation and want to get all the ideas out before it happens (the psych actually went from "maybe you have it" to "yeah, you actually probably have it" just from the way I talk kek.Though it depends. If it only started recently and you have very unhealthy habits, it might be because of that. In my case, it was like that since I can remember, though I only went to the psych in my mid 20s because I never thought I had it until I started spiraling down HARD even though in retrospective it was quite apparent and I wasted a ton of potential because of it. I thought I just hated working hard.From what I was told, if you are smart and not too hyperactive, it is very likely for ADHD to go unnoticed since in most cases it only gets diagnosed early when a parent is worried about their kid getting low marks or causing trouble at school. In my case I didn't pay barely any attention in class, but could sit still and was good at cramming for exams, so my grades were good for most of my academic life (I had a physics teacher that thought I was fucking retarded because I never knew the answers to questions in class and her jaw hit the floor when I btfo'd the entire class on the first midterm kek).Also, if one of your parents have it, it is likely you got it from them. In my case it is very obvious that my dad has it too (impulsive as fuck talking, interrupts you all the time, often skips people's turns when playing board games, dropped out of school at like 14 because he just couldn't sit still, tries to do 10 things at once, etc) though he's never been diagnosed because mental health wasn't really a thing back then and he's worked manual labor jobs where it wasn't much of a detriment.
>>532166719ok thats nothing like me, im not impulsive at all, but theres different spectrum of adhd like you said, i just have trouble concentrating, i find myself daydreaming very often, sometimes in middle of when someone is speaking to me or im watching a video etc i start to think something else and lose focus on the previous thing
>>532167546Yeah that also happens to me. I daydreamed through most of school and college.If you think there is a chance you have it and feel it is impacting your life, It is probably a good idea to go to a psych or two and see what they thing. If you do, look for psychiatrists who specialize on adult cases. A non-specialist has a high chance of just telling you that you are depressed and to take an ssri.I started taking the chance of having it seriously 10 years too late and it has definitely greatly impacted my life in a bad way. I always had a ton of confidance and potential for a lot of things but never got good at anything because of the lack of focus and executive dysfunction and by now I have been surpassed by most of my peers in most regards and turned into just another mediocre wagie but with a permanent strong sense of regret and zero confidance because I'm conscious of how far I've fallen.
>>532157262Based.Take care of yourself.Withdrawls from psych meds and benzos can be worse than anything else.The only thing that helped me was to remember that my brain was readjusting to a natural level of seratonin and dopamine production and uptake, and that I could push depression back by simply thinking about different shit, in a positive light, if my negative, critical ass got too obsessed with some angle.Life became richer when I got the full spectrum of my emotional range back.it became worse in some ways, and so much better in others.Remember, psychiatrists weren't good enough at math to be chemist, or biology to be doctors. The DSM is written by pharma reps.Sincerely, best of luck to you on your quest for clarity.You can be alright bro.
>>532157262If you cut yourself anon, what is the exact color and thickness of the blood?
>>532171615thank you fren>Life became richer when I got the full spectrum of my emotional range back.this is exactly how it feels to me>>532171838just normal blood wdym
