But wouldn’t it make sense to just drive that oil the other way around?
>>532179458I have been thinking this as well but instead of war with Iran we would probably have to have boots on the ground in UAE and our other allies in that region. It's the only way to secure oil. Either way war seems very attractive
>>532179458Its all about making money. They lost alot during Covid
Anon a truck can carry between 200 and 250 barrels of oilThose big tanker ships carry 3 million, that's 1200 trucks to match one ship and that's only if those trucks were loaded to the brim
>>532179458it's easy to hit the pipelines. also pipelines are less efficient than supertankers.
>>532179458Trucks can't transport enough oil to make it economically viable
>>532179458You would need 10,000 trucks to move a single tanker worth of oil
>>532179458>DriveDrive a ship? Are you retarded?
>>532179458MadMax irl
>>532179659Okay so get 1200 trucks to drive them the other side also why can’t they just build a long pipeline
>>532179569The oil is under the water
>>532179659they should've finished The Line
>>532179458They had one pipeline that did that but Iran just bombed it
>>532179458Remember when the Saudis wanted to build that retarded wall city bullshit?They should have just built a pipeline network instead from Iraq, Kuwait, Qatar, Bahrain, UAE, and Oman, to a location on the Red Sea.
>>532179722Iran could just bomb the pipeline and its construction
>>532179458There are already some pipelines like this, but, the houthis or iran can easily bomb those pipelines if they want to. It's even easier than bombing ships in the strait of hormuz - the pipeline doesnt maneuver, and it is hundreds of miles long and can't be defended by anti-air over such a span.
>>532179458I should be sheikh president or something.
>>532179458>dude just transport it trough a giant desert
>>532179687OP cals himself retarded but it's clear you're the one deserving of that title.
>>532179458That is what will.happen as nobody will trust iran anymore and iran Will fall apart into many different tribal factions
>>532179675So put the pipelines underground and fill the tankers coming and going from the suez.
>>532179458>just build a canal 700 miles long to beat the iraniansYou’re right, full retard. Giant boat is the most efficient way to move that much weight. Building a canal or transporting by truck would probably make the price jump higher than just letting iranians blow your shit outta the water.
>>532179722>build a long pipelineiran has been busy bombing any pipelines that bypass hormuz. you'd have to have counter-drone defenses the entire length of this pipeline that runs across the entire arabian peninsula, through empty inhospitable desertand even if you get to the red sea, yemen will just start sinking the tankers as they try to pass south, and you can't send them through suez since the tankers are too big
>>532179675transportation cost of oil per barrel:- supertanker $2.7- pipeline $5
America doesn't get oil from the gulf. Trump should just go full nuclear. >take out all energy plants>take out desalination plants Full scale destruction of no return. Let Iran wreck havoc in the Middle East. Wait it out. Move in and take it all over for Greater America.
>>532179849the pipelines are already underground. you just hit the terminals and it's over
>>532179659>Anon a truck can carry between 200 and 250 barrels of oil>Those big tanker ships carry 3 million, that's 1200 3M / 250 is 12,000, not 1200
why dont they just build cities in the middle of the desert where land is cheap and drive all the stuff they need to live normally to the cheap land
>>532179722>Okay so get 1200 trucks12,000 trucks, not 1200
>>532179685that's a lot of created jobs
>>532179458Why not use planes?
>>532179730Why don't we just move the water somewhere else?
>>532179458why not build multi lane underground railway?
>>532179458>>532179569It takes a million trucks to carry one tanker's worth. There are not enough vehicles in the whole country to carry 4 hours worth of oil. And Houthis control the Red Sea and bomb anything passing through.MIGA has never thought anything through.
>>532179458The people who own the ships and move the oil are still private companies, they can't afford to buy millions of tanker trucks, let alone move them to the desert. Even attempting so would be a nightmare that would end out losing money even in the best conditions.If this was maybe a state in a video game trying to get oil back to the country so it can make more tanks, it'd be different, but these are shipping companies trying to turn a profit.
>>53217972210 years to build. 2 seconds to destroy
>>532179458Okay but why wouldn't they just make a deal with Oman and avoid chokepoints? Oman isn't a hostile country and would be happy to make a deal
>>532179458No. The red sea is also hostile. It has houthis blowing shit up and Yemen is a shithole since king coon blew a bunch of shit up there and pissed them off. The majority of the ME is all fucked up and enemies because our empire has been fucking around blowing people up for the last 40 years or so.
Why don't they just quit using oil?
>>532179770Iran can bomb anything in the region. There is no way to get oil out of there if they will always be chimping out.
>>532179803>wait for fatass oil tanker to enter canal>drone it>shitter's plugged
>>532179458The Red Sea is also pretty dangerous due to the Iran backed Houthi rebels in Yemen. They could build a pipeline through Oman. But then again, Iran could just blow up the pipeline. What a mess.
>>532179458It's in development
>>532179881sounds like the problem is islamwe should nuke islamthoughts?
There is no infrastructure to drive the quantity of trucks requiered for such thing.
>>532179458>just drive you Yemen broYou first
>>532179803That's a lot of digging, in desert sand.Build a bridge instead my good Kaliff.
>>532179659Oi'l drive that tankah.
>>532180370>Wheels, they just work.- some alleged genious.
>>532180392Nuke jews first, just to be sure
>>532180534>water crossing over the landharam as fuck
>>532179930That was a typo
Pools going to be closed for a long time. The likely outcome right now is an Iranian invasion of the whole area, they have by far the largest army in the region with proxy fighters ready to join in in Iraq and Syria.
>>532179458Have you considered just befriending them and getting toll free buddy status?There are other options besides sacrificing childrens to Baal.
>>532179848>iran Will fall apart into many different tribal factionsHow many weeks you reckon?
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>>532179996Pointless jobs that no one wants to pay for
>>532181060>Have you considered just befriending them and getting toll free buddy status?ALLAHSNACKBAR
>>532179803The Eastern half of that line is mountains
>>532179458>inland sea/canal project, like Australia was consideringHouthis still need to be glassed out of existence in the southwest, and Iran would still be able to hit the processing plants presumably. Also: Palestine Statehood & redevelopment (with a big fucking US base with THAADs up the wazoo to preempt Samson Faggotry) = no Ziostan monopoly of offshore oil, and a cut of a Sinai Canal alternative to Suez (with the Chinese fucking with upstream countries with the Nile headwaters).
>>532181641Cut them at 45 degrees for a stable slope and use the extracted rock for the construction of the Great Pyramid of Dubai
>>532180404So even with tens of thousands of terrain trucks, driving it through the desert would be utterly impractical.A mega machines solution for it could be kino as fuck though.
>>532181641Are they that high? Why is the place still a desert? I bet its just hills they call mountains
>>532179458That area likely doesn’t have the infrastructure for large scale transport, like well-kept roads and places for vehicles to refuel. Plus any trucks are just open targets for drones.
>>532181781Why not just more piplines?
>>532181781people dont seem to get it, israel wants to destroy them completely and they wont stop until they do... they also want to destroy qatar>>532181840one small explosive fucks them
>>532181796They're not huge mountains but they're big enough that a canal is not feasible.
>>532179458Thats the worlds largest continuous sand desert, and pipelines can be bombed out of service too
build the pipeline underground
>>532179458What aboot choo choos?
>>532179803They can reach pretty much all the locations you’d think of as easily as they reach the strait, big homie.
>>532179783>but, the houthis or iran can easily bomb those pipelines if they want to. IIran already did actually. US military failed to stop them
>>532179745>>532180392Sounds like problem of US not able to establish air superiority over Saudia Arabia.
>>532181060What if Trump will start sinking Iranian allies tankers?
>>532182375doing that would result in Iran getting even more allies
>>532179458Not really, you'd be driving thru desert, that's expensive, but it would make sense to have a pipeline there... And they do, but it doesn't move as much oil as ships, and there are the Houtis fucking about on the other side.
>>532181840Come on Donkey - you know why.
>>532179458They are driving it. But there's only so many trucks, and it is much more expensive than just dunking it in a ship.
>>532179458The Red Sea is the Houthis domain. Try again
>>532182784oh no speedboats!
>>532181704The Saudis couldn’t wipe them out. The US couldn’t wipe them out. The Houthis are here to stay brother man
>>532179458All that just adds more costs to crude prices. See where all the major Saudi oil fields are located in picrel? This is why they ship it out the gulf through Hormuz. Pipelines cost millions to build and maintain, tanker trucks/trains are a nightmare to move through the desert due to sand getting into everything, and even if you manage to get it to the Red Sea, you still gotta deal with the Houthis in Yemen, which is why Iran is supporting them to strategically choke 2 of the 3 available exits. Even their efforts in Lebanon and Syria are also intended to cause trouble with the Suez Canal, giving them ultimate control over all 3 chokepoints.
>>532182836>oh no speedbo -ACK
>>532180324You can always not attack them on behalf of your kike masters.
>>532183671No, we could have always not attacked them on behalf of our kike master.
>>532179458Your elite wants you be raped every possible way possible because their times at nigh.
>>532179908you mean for Israel, right?
>>532179722>missile incomingas long as you don't find a diplomatic solution with Iran neither tankers nor ships are going anywhere
>>532179458It would make sense to stop using oil,you know they've openly proved that they can power entire cities using only a drone?but all the nigger tier countries like Putins Russia or the Islamic Arabs in the middle east would instantly go flat broke overnight.once again we can't have a nice world because of all the niggers>but but anon it's not real, it will never happenit is real, you've all just been made intentionally retarded to keep humanity enslaved forever
>>532183058because theyre not worth the cost of the bombs
>>532179458There's heaps of tanker ships currently in the Persian gulf at this very moment. If they go near the strait. They will get blown up. They want to get to fujairah but can't.
>>532179458You're a dumb motherfucker
>>532181060>zog>befriending anti-zog irannot happening any time soon
>>532179458>>532182954iran can bomb pipelinesiran can bomb railsiran can bomb roadsit doesn't matter
>>532184206>powering cities with 1 droneThis is what we need. There are plenty of drones now. Tell us how this works Anon
>>532179458Pipelines are very, very easy to drone, sabotage, bomb. It is nearly impossible to secure hundreds of kms of pipelines in the desert
>>532185516And other countries can bomb Iran. And more of them will if they don't get their oil. And the point at which Iran will be bombed into a state where they can't bomb anyone or anything else will be reached first before other countries allow their economies to collapse from lack of oil. What you don't get is that you're playing an extortion game without the credentials to back up your threats. And keep in mind that your threat isn't that you'll attack tankers in Hormuz, but that you'll keep it up indefinitely. Nobody doubts that you can inflict short term pain. But to play the long game? You don't have that kinda resource. Right now it's an economics game: countries are doing cost benefit analysis on whether paying the extortion fee to let a few ships through every other month is worth it. But the US and Israel are the deciders in this game. They have demonstrated time and again that they can bomb your independent IRGC squads (nice strategy BTW, hows that workin out?) into a frenzy and indiscriminately target foes, neutrals and friendlies alike. And that turns the latter 2 groups into foes. And once enough foes have skin in this game, they'll turn your entire country into a smoking crater moonscape and the only thing you're people will be able to launch are sticks and rocks.
>>532179458why not listen to Netanyahuhttps://vm.tiktok.com/ZS98ad71g2qhh-vRMfR/
>>532179458They do, it just was cheaper to ship it from Hormuz. Saudi Arabia pumps ~7 million barrels a day to the Suez canal. The Houthi niggers try to control the red sea too on behalf of Iran, but they can't.
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>>532181470600 millions pounds divided by 450 pounds (per camel) results in 1 333 333 camels and change
The U.S. doesn't need the oil. It's a favor to the rest of the world to get it open.
>>532179803I propose to use a lot of Jamjeets to dig that channel and when the work is done other than monetary payment for their shoddy jeet work they can go rape anything at Irans side.Of course they going to get corralled and shot on the spot by the Iranians.3 problems solved in one go.>B b-ut muh human rights Go fuck yourself.
>>532183671>Always be chimping out.Could you give me three (3) examples of Iran chimping out and closing the strait of hormuz?
>>532179770>>532180324What if they dug the pipeline really deep
>>532179637>You make money by starting retarded wars which lead to the destruction of oil facilities.Ok, Chomsky
>>532184362This sums up a lot of the failings of the US military>Develop unnecessarily expensive weaponry>Denied the ability to use it because it’s too expensive to risk losingAnd I guarantee the corps getting the contracts for this tech are jacking up the price far more than it should be in order to line the pockets of their owners and shareholders.It’s the same reason why healthcare overcharges by stupid amounts; it’s not that it’s actually that expensive, but may as well scam insurance companies if they can.
>>532186448You don't need a lot of resources to keep the strait closed. The houthis are a proof of that. The US were unable to unclog Bab-el-Mandeb by military means and had to strike a deal with them. Years ago Somali pirates with AKs and rubber boats were enough to significantly disturb shipping lanes. People underestimate how even slight disturbances can severely impact trade.
>>532179458They have some pipelines that do that but if they knew the war with Iran was going to happen sooner or later they should have built many more underground pipelines and ports.
>>532179458Is that what the wef wants by 2030 dumdum?
>>532179458Why not just have oil pipelines to the Med?
Guys what if we build a catapult?
>>532179458Pipelines and roads require maintenance, a lot of that peninsula is extremely harsh desert and rocky territory on the western side.These areas are also vulnerable to attacks and disasters, add the far more limited capacity you're restricted to carrying compared to the water ways and it becomes very challenging and costly to do that.There's a reason why water ways are considered vital trade arteries, they require no maintenance, you can carry way more stuff and outside of a giganuke or a mess of mines, they typically remain available after war.
>>532187049Build a big horse and give it to the Iranians as a gift, then everyone get out of the horse, pump the oil into the horse, then gallop the horse to the ocean, pump the oil onto the purpose build ark we made designed for carrying oil
Funny how westoids keep on coping instead of admitting that they fucked up big time huh?
>>532179722Unless you're ready to have charge up stations in the desert for EV trucks or to constantly defend a pipeline against drones you would have to up the price of gas just to pay for the transport of these 12000 trucks across the desert since trucks need gas to run
>>532179848Yeeeeeaaaaaahhhhhhh let's trust israel though because they will NEVER double cross anyone.
>>532179458the current infrastructure would still leave something like 13B barrel behind. it would take 3-5 years to build new pipeline at emergency pace
>>532187871Why but gas? They are literally carrying oil./pol/ is retarded
>>532183671>>532183729>>532180324The specific problem is that iran is also opposed to saudi arabia and wants to make Iraq their bitch due to both being shiites which would give them control over most of this oil. As long as the iranians have an anti-saudi bent and want to reach over and grab control of the oil they will be a threat, the straight of homos doesn't even matter that much compared to this specific goal of theirs, and israel is able to then exploit the confluence of the oil interest and the evangelical and pro-israel lobbies in the US for their benefit. The Saudis and UAE, while anti-israel, also use this to their benefit.
>>532180551Kek
>>532179722>>532179458
>>532179458I like your plan, what are you retarded waiting for ?Do it.
>>532179458>the other way aroundThat would cut into profits.BTW, do you have all your son's things packed up and ready to go?
>>532184206You need oil for plastic, rubber and lubricants, you have to stop using those among billion other things we dont know is made from oil
>>532188904Lube for the šupak.
>>532179637>alotDid they lose an allotment, you fucking cunt? A lot of people lose allotments you know.
>>532179687I saw that in Vinland Saga.
>>532179458If they can drone strike and bomb Israel and their allies are Yemen, how would this work?
>>532188519Aren't they withholding Epstein's emails from the 2000s? That meme is kind of dumb.
>>532179458because trucks are slower and carry orders of magnitude less than boats, also saudi arabia is a fucking desert.
>>532182375>Unprovoked attack on country that control Malacca straitThat would be really stupid to ask us to jump over to the Chinese boat and give them bases to control Malacca strait and delete Diego Garcia within minutes.The rare earth plant here is also one of the few non Chinese supply left for the west.>>532185487Just where did all the diplomacy standards that Kissinger set go?The entire govt are full of retards.
>>532179458Because pipelines in a desert are both hard to install and maintainAlso Houthis would both rape the pipeline and the tankers in red sea
>>532179458They closed that other southern strait last week. So you are proposing to drive millions of gallons across a hostile desert to another closed canal.
>>532179458Eh might as well lay down a few immigration offices and bring the worst offenders here. Open the floodgates.
>>532179458It costs too much to do, so they won't make any money doing so. It’s not worth the effort.The gains are offset by the costs.You're basically Robbing Peter to pay Paul. The juice simply ain't worth the squeeze.
>>532179458The pipeline would take years to make.
>>532179458There is 1 or 2 pipes that are operational in Saudi Arabia, but it isn't the same volumes that the ships move.
