Celto-Germanic Australian here, raised atheist by ex Catholics. I've been reading about various Christian denominations lately. I'm becoming partial to orthodox Christianity but it seems so deeply connected to each country in Eastern Europe it belongs to that it wouldn't make sense for a Westerner to be Orthodox, as each orthodox church is really a nationalist institution and to be Orthodox you'd have to found your own church. Does a church with Orthodox views on the church but Catholic tradition, iconography and sin exist? Because that would be the perfect Church. Protestantism on the other hand besides Lutheranism seems like cancer
>>532187248Orthodoxy is a wrong theology that won't save anyone. You're a bunch of Pharisee 2.0 without even realizing it. Go to a bible believing church instead. 1 Corinthians 15: 1-4, Ephesians 2:8-9, Romans 4:5
>>532187248>Orthodox views on the churchSo you want every priest to be a KGB agent?
>>532187248You don't just pick and choose what you like about a religion you either believe it's the truth or not. I swear you trad LARPers are just atheists who like le epic aesthetics and dunking on libtards, once the next fad comes along you'll drop the church in an instant.
>>532188081No, that the Pope hasn't authority and that every nation / ethnicity should have it's own church and patriarch >>532188086All Christians believe in Jesus and god, the difference obviously is in the tradition and the organisation. Idiot midwit British "people" piss me off
>>532187807Juden worshipping evangelical niggercattle detected
>>532187248you are on the right pathdeath to the world
>>532188267>No, that the Pope hasn't authority aYou just Protestant> every nation/ethnicityEvery government. By the way, ethnic tribalism is condemned in the church and most patriarchs, including the Moscow one, support mass migration.>muh sovereigntyEssentially, there are two "popes" who influence smaller dioceses: the Patriarch of Moscow and the Patriarch of Constantinople. The Moscow Patriarchate is simply a branch of the KGB.If you're truly interested, look for a small Protestant denomination. But you're probably just a Larper.
>>532188320>>532188267Ok u Larper. You've never opened a Bible if you don't know that Jesus was Jewish. All Abrahamism is based on Judaism. Just leave Abrahamism if you don't like it.
>>532187248>it wouldn't make sense for a Westerner to be Orthodox, as each orthodox church is really a nationalist institution and to be Orthodox you'd have to found your own church.I align more with Orthodox views than any other church. It's the most traditional one that refused to change its traditions or custom through time. I really don't mind it being an eastern based denomination since I don't attend but I understand why it would bother you if you feel out of place because of it. I don't think you should actually, Jesus Christ wasn't about countries. If that is what seems right to you, I wouldn't worry about what makes sense in that regard or not. Being an Orthodox is the most rational position today if you wish to be in a specific denomination given the Catholics tendency to wander and worship false idols that are not Jesus Christ, their linency with abominable flags in their places of worship, the pope calling to be friends with muslims, its history with the abominations of the templars... and I won't even speak about the other denominations.
Why do you niggers need to jump into some semitic psychosis inducing institution?? The alternative isn’t being “an atheist”, you can construct and cultivate your own paradigm, no one’s fucking stopping you.
The Patriarch of Moscow is a commie, the Patriarch of Constantinople is a freemason, and all the clergy sucks their cock despite knowing better. All the churches are fucked. Reject the false gospel entirely. This is why we need Deutsche Gotterkenntnis. The divine order is recognisable by distilling the universal virtues of life and the specific virtues that nurture and strengthen civilisation.
>>532188530Shut up jEU propagandist, the Russian, Serb and Greek orthodox churches are not the same and do not possess the same organisational structure, nor is the Syrian Orthodox CotE. The entire point of Orthodox Christianity is that its churches are heterodox on sociopolitical issues relating to their nations and people, unlike the Catholic church which has been subverted P.s. The Russian orthodox church only supports ethnic pluralism in the context of Russia having millions of non Russian native ethnicities like the Tatars, Mongols and Chechens, not in the Western Jewish sense of White genocide and making ethnic Russians a dispossessed minority. the German government are the enemy of White Germans and are actively trying to genocide them and frankly, they deserve an invasion by Russia>>532188606>Did you know Jesus was Jewish? You should worship usDid you know Palestinians are Jewish? You should stop genociding them and get the fuck out of their land
>>532188267What is it with trad LARPers and being snobby weirdos? Definitely the next generation of power tripping nonce priests.
>>532187248>Celto-Germanic Australian herejesus fucking christ go outside
>>53218876399% of all modern problems in the West from birth rates to degeneracy to exploitation by foreign ethnicity networks comes from the fact we all lost our religious institutions in the 60s and became atomised individuals
>>532189055this. we went from Nationof people > Communities > nuclear families > atomised individuals. those crafty merchants played our ancestors
>Celto-Germanic Australian
>>532187248Inquiring into Orthodoxy.There is eastern rite catholicism (orthodox split group which recognize primacy of the pope but otherwise keep their version of the creed). Also, most Orthodox churches in your area are likely to use local language for at least a part of the service. There's also ROCOR, which is an exception of sort because it's been founded by Russian refugees from Bolshevik anti-Christian persecution. Thus they don't have an affiliation to a particular state and are not monoethnic/nationalist
>>532189055You didn’t lose shit, those institutions put you up for renting, they didn’t even sell you cause they’re still trying to use you.>>532189153This is true. But those “crafty merchants” didn’t start lying in the 60s, they’re your founders.
>>532188606This is a word concept fallacy. Jesus was native to Palestine, spoke Aramaic, and did not adhere whatsoever to what we now know as Judaism. Modern rabbinic Judaism emerged after the Christianity.
>>532188606>>532189399In fact, rabbinic Judaism originates from Pharisees, while Christianity originates from Helenized current in temple Judaism, with heavy Platonic influence. Pharisees hated them so much that they not only killed Jesus, but genocided his followers during Bar Kohba revolt.
>>532188846How is he a commie?Other than being born during Soviet era
>>532188081KGB hasn't existed for nearly 40 years, Mr Boomer
>>532189034I spend most of my day outside. All I see is scowling Indians, suicidal teenagers and old people
>>532188530>heretic squared having an opinion on christianity
>>532187248The biggest problem with Orthodox churches is that they always cuck to secular power. Roman emperors, Greek emperors, Mongol khans, Turkish sultans, Russian tsars, Soviet premiers and so on. They don't cuck on theological level though, just on a practical level. That's just something you'll have to accept because it's been that way for hundreds of years and it won't change now. As for which church, I assume Melbourne or Sydney has either a Russian Orthodox Church Abroad or a Constantinople Patriarchate church somewhere, and obviously you can't join a church without going to one, so just pick whichever is more convinient. Theologically they're all the same, and to you as an Australian the petty political squabbles between patriarchs shouldn't matter.
>>532188530>Essentially, there are two "popes" who influence smaller dioceses: the Patriarch of Moscow and the Patriarch of Constantinople. The Moscow Patriarchate is simply a branch of the KGB.Lmao.Meanwhile, IRL: the russian patriarchy is absolutely seething because the orthodox council agreed to elevate the ukrainian metropolis into an independent patriarchy.The patriarch of Constantinopolis is just the guy organising the councils, and no orthodox church has power over the others, formal or informal. The russian one is the biggest, but doesn't have any mechanism to coerce or bribe the others.
>>532187248non-issue in 2026 in most countries, it was really a big problem up til a decade ago.orthodoxy had a huge influx from the west including many priests. that changed the situation, so while ortho churches in the west were indeed small and centered around preserving this or that diaspora, now westerners are often majority, often priests and english is often the main language of the liturgy (depending on a location). you just might need to check several churches before you find your fitas for what particular jurisdiction to join (greek, antioch, russian etc) it doesn't matter as they're all in the full communion
>>532187248Inconvenient verses for RCs, EOs and even some Protestants.>Matthew 3:11: “I baptize you with water for repentance, but he who is coming after me is mightier than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.>Ephesians 1:13-14: In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, 14 who is the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it, to the praise of his glory.>Romans 3:21-30:21But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law, although the Law and the Prophets bear witness to it— 22the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe. >For there is no distinction: 23for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, 25whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God’s righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins. 26It was to show his righteousness at the present time, so that he might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.>27Then what becomes of our boasting? It is excluded. By what kind of law? By a law of works? No, but by the law of faith. 28For we hold that one is justified by faith apart from works of the law. 29Or is God the God of Jews only? Is he not the God of Gentiles also? Yes, of Gentiles also, 30since God is one—who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith.When you believe, you receive the Holy Spirit, and are saved. Its that simple. The water baptism is a sign. We see from thr above Ephesians and also Acts 10:44-48 that we receice the Holy Spirit when we believe, not when water is applied. Romans 4:1-8 and Romans 8:1 tells us we who are justified by faith are not condemned for sin.
>Jesus was jewish.>Jesus was sent to jews.>Jesus referred to jews as "children".>Jesus referred to non-jews as "dogs" himself.>Jesus preferred when non-jews referred to jews are "masters" and to themselves as "dogs".what he meant by that?
>>532187248>Celto-GermanicLmao stfu
I'm an Orthodox Christian, and I can actually help you because most people on /pol/ do not understand even an entry level orthodox phronema sadly. I can at least help you with the basics.You have to understand that orthodox church is one church, because a church is unified by faith which is the truth revealed through holy spirit. Each physical jurisdiction is specifically a jurisdiction created for a nation which is why they are nationalistic, because that was the church structure and it makes the most sense to deify each imagery and tradition in each nation. Things are moving in a direction where several churches are trying to create branches to be more accommodating for nation's that have overlapping jurisdictions and no autpcephaly. But at the moment it isn't a solved issue because until recently the Latins wouldn't allow orthodoxy to even spread in the west through force, so we are only now figuring out how to accommodate those lands.What area are you in Australia roughly, I can try to look up churches around your region. For example antiochian and Romanian churches allegedly tend to be better for foreigners.
>>532190765Every Church is forced to submit to the government by the virtue of circumstances other than in the cases where the church becomes more powerful than the government in a worldly sense thus a government in it's own right which is also bad.This is why ideally government acts as a Deacon in a meta sense. What helps us is that holy spirit will not allow the correct faith to fall, hence why even when you had periods like iconoclasm that gets defeated inevitably.
Anyone larping as one is an eastern euro rebranded atheist likely from a nomenclature family or a genuine retard and a hipster from the US.
>>532194582The vast majority of Bible believing Protestant churches were historically hostile to the government and/or monarchy whenever they opposed God and to this day are openly against stuff like covid lockdowns and hatespeech and gay marriage and so on and so forth.Obey the law but not if it goes against the teachings of God.>>532194695Often true I think. Its a new kind of orientalism. 150+ years ago a lot of Britons liked to LARP as gurus and dervishes and all that nonsense out of a fetishisation of the orient. Then about 50 years ago particularly in America it was all buddhism and confucius and chi/qi mysticism nonsense. Today its often Eastern Orthodoxy.I'm about 90% sure any genuine Germanic Christian, by dint of our blood making us obsessed with purity and hypocrisy (not that we live up to our virtues), would never be able to accept the blatant anti-Biblical stances that RCs and EOs take; which is why Germanics gravitated firstly to Arianism (which contrary to RC+EO propaganda did not deny Christ's divinity, it denied His co-eternality on the basis of the Scriptures saying He was begotten; they still affirmed Christ is God and that all things were created through Him; I'm not personally an Arian but having studied what they actually believed, I believe they could be genuine Christians and could be true believers sealed with the Holy Spirit) and Pelagianism (which is a heresy but was borne of that puritanical Germanic mindset) and later to Protestantism.
>>532195062>I'm not personally an Arian but having studied what they actually believed, I believe they could be genuine Christians and could be true believers sealed with the Holy Spiritnobody cares what YOU believe retard, arianism was dealt with in the very first council of nicea, you know, the one that happened BEFORE the canonization of the bible. you selfinterpreters of the bible are the cancer that ruined the christianity in the west
>>532187248Build your own church and make an Australian Orthodox Church.
>>532188530>hurr the ecumenist patriarch that makes out with the pope and tours refugee camps with him has an influence on the churches that won't even let catholics partake in communion durr
>>532190765>The biggest problem with Orthodox churches is that they always cuck to secular powerYet they survive, no?
>>532187248those robes are so fucking badass, they should play blackened death metal
>>532195310And RCs and EOs lied about what they believed and distorted the truth. And then tried to hide the fact that so-called Saint Constantine was baptised by an Arian priest.
Imagine worshipping a magic jew...
>>532187248>Celto-Germanic Australian hereThe majority of Christians are brown so the odds are in favor of OP being a larping shitskin.
>>532195494>Saturnian robes are so badass bros..
>>532187248Been entertaining the same myself, anon. Just a small thought. Haven't committed to it yet, but I'd definitely be open to checking it out in the future. I don't have any wisdom to share as a result, but just putting it out there that you're not alone in the aspiration. Hope things go well for you, God bless.
>>532195679Prob a filipino
>>532188081No one asks serious questions about religion on /pol/. He's advertising Christianity and lying about his story to cover it up. They often use this method, like pretending to be an atheist who suddenly discovered Jewsus etc when in fact they were already a Christian.
>>532195723>mamy races but all Aussies!Morr proof that Christianity is the Globohomo NWO
>>532195062>The vast majority of Bible believing Protestant churches were historically hostile to the governmentThat is not the context that the anon is talking in, Eastern Orthodox churches do not have a problem with opposing trivial things like covid lockdowns, none of the churches in my region supported it and all were against it, you are thinking in terms of first world problems.The type of thing anon meant was more in line with>X king wants to start a war with Y king and is pressuring the church to bless his army or >X king does not trust Y synod because of some geopolitical reasons so he forces replacement of entire synodI genuinely can not describe how unrelatable the issues that you guys talk about in the west are to me because we have completely different issues here. >blatant anti-Biblical stances that RCs and EOs takeI can debate you and fully dismantle your entire belief system and prove that not only are you wrong but your entire belief system is entirely and directly satanic and possesses zero grace. But I do not know what to expect from actual schizophasia ridden morons who genuinely take as epistemic basis the idea that knowledge of true church was erased from existence until Martin Luther, and even that is not enough for your kind because he believed in necessity of eucharistic service.>I believe they could be genuine Christians and could be true believers sealed with the Holy SpiritYou are directly a heretic, directly, if you believe this.>PelagianismYou are also directly a heretic if you even slightly find anything at all positive in Pelagianism, this is ridiculous.The only manner in which you could come to this conclusion is because your entire region had complete lack of any philosophical formal education, to this day your kind caused COMPLETE DESTRUCTION of philosophy of sciences, teleology, epistemiology and ontology is DEAD because of your retarded naturalistic heresy.
>>532187248Old Catholic
>>532195705unironically yes
>>532195975>Christcuck admits his God is SaturnA rare moment of honesty from a jew worshipper.
>>532195524You literally do not know Eastern Orthodox faith, you have not read Athanasius, you have not read John of Damascus, you have not read works of Gregory of Nazianzus. >And then tried to hide the fact that so-called Saint Constantine was baptised by an Arian priest.Constantine convened Nicea himself and Eusebius multiple times signaled seceding his Arianism until reverting back to it again. But a personal state of a priest can not affect validity of a sacrament, that is a heresy of Donatism. Through divine economia all rites performed in a valid phronema and in a valid form and a valid hierarchy are valid, otherwise salvation is impossible. Salvation depends on relationship between God and each individual person, it does not function legalistically but functions synergistically.
>>532195524nobody is hiding it idiot, constantine got ill and couldn't reach the jordan river where he wanted to get baptized so he got the local priest from the place where he was at the time.he literally convened and participated in the first council of nicea that condemned arianism as a heresy
>>532195705They are not Saturnian in any sense at all. They are based entirely on Temple era Israel worship, Kohen Gadol formal robes with breastplate Choshen for symbols.
>>532187248The Orthodox genocides all the real Christians (Gnostics) in favor of a corrupted jew-friendly "Christianity" invented by satanic Roman emperors like Constantine and Justinian
>>532196265It is literally useless, that guy managed to express donatism, arianism, plagianism heresies in a span of two posts.At that point he is not a Christian as far as we understand.
>>532189785>KGB hasn't existed for nearly 40 yearsLMAO
>>532187248It's a very gay church that enjoys engaging in anal from the priest because it reminds them of getting raped by the Turks to this day in Constantinople because of how gay and weak their religion is. Also, go back, wog.
>>532190765>They don't cuck on theological level though, just on a practical level.shouldn't their theology and faith manifest in their behavior? "By their deeds you will know them" (Matthew 7:16, 20)
>>532195880Dear diary, today I saw a Georgian murder a man.
>>532196389>They are not SaturnianYes they are both in style (judges robes. black graduation robes etc are all Saturnian)and also directly due to the fact that Yahweh is Saturn.
>>532189785FSB is identical to KGB, you are using jangle fallacy.Orthodoxy has an issue of constantly being invaded by the government because Orthodoxy is the most potent cultural force consistently for 1000 years+ in all of eastern Christian lands, so they want this control.But it is irrelevant if some priests are compromised and western minded people that bitch about personal relationship should understand that. Because Donatism is a heresy and because Devine economia exists only your synergy with Christ through his sacrifice by your faith matters, because of this as long as you manifest your living martyrdom on the road of theosis it does not matter if the sacraments you receive are performed by an "honest" priest or not because it is the energetic telos of the relationship between you and God that is the fruit of your faith.
>>532188530>The Moscow Patriarchate is simply a branch of the KGB.This. It was literally created by Stalin in 1943.
>>532187248You're converting to a sect of Judaism originating from Asia and you're worried about it being Eastern European flavored?
>>532196635That depends whether or not you perceive praying for Stalin's health or for Russian victory against Ukraine as a political question or a religious question. Since pacifism was never a tenet of the Nicean churches I lean towards the former. But I suppose in general the state-and-church relations depend on your interpretation of Matthew 22:21
>>532196752>Explain Orthodox vestments visuals, name specific period they are based on, specific elements, their names for ease of research etc.>Get a schizophrenic reply equating Yahweh with Saturn because Canadian Jeet in question can not bother to research Every Orthodox rite vestments, monk, deacon, priests etc. is based on temple judaism vestments extrapolated through imagery of Jesus like true vine etc.You trying to equate Yahweh with Saturn is irrelevant.
>>532196813that's nice. Should every orthodox christian get put their life on hold for 5-8 years and delve into the intricacies of the orthodox theology to know when their priest/patriarch is leading them to hell? russian orthodox literally venerate icons of Stalin...
>>532196813>>532197093>russian orthodox literally venerate icons of Stalin...and pootin
>>532197093Praying for any persons health is correct in Christianity, even for your enemy. A much more serious issue was for example replacing a patriarch with an exarchos and or a secular high prosecutor, which has happened in Russia before.
>>532187248The long and short of it is: just be Catholic. It's virtually identical to Eastern Orthodoxy in theology and you can go to Ukrainian uniate parishes if you want the Orthodox vibes. If you're serious about Orthodoxy, the only practical solution in Australia is to join the Greek Orthodox Church. They have some great priests. You won't have regular access to the sacrament of confession and you'll only be able to attend divine liturgy at one time on Sunday morning.
>>532197093>Matthew 22:21it's one thing to honor legal obligations to secular government, and it's completely another to grovel before it, serving it's every whim, especially when it goes diametrically opposed to the christian faith.
>>532187248>Christian denominationsNo such thing. There's only one Church.(No, Protestants and Roman "Catholics" aren't part of it.)>wouldn't make sense for a Westerner to be OrthodoxOrthodoxy is an organic part of America, despite attempts to make it more "ethnic".
>>532197179>>532197241>Should every orthodox christian get put their life on hold for 5-8 years and delve into the intricacies of the orthodox theologyYes. Next question?Each person is judged by the talents he received like in the parable, Apollos was not condemned for his ignorance and Paul himself states that he was given mercy due to his ignorance, from everyone who has been given much, much will be required. The priests who are committing heteredox or directly heretical actions on the other hand are going to face direct wrath of God on scale I can not imagine if they do no repent one day.
>>532187807>bible believing churchWait till you find out who wrote your Bible.(Pro tip, it wasn't God literally.)
>>532197547Shut up, faggot
>>532197135>Every Orthodox rite vestments, monk, deacon, priests etc. is based on temple judaism vestmentsAbsolutely not. Perhaps some elements are (such as the bishop's mitre), but most are based on Roman garb of the first centuries AD.
>>532188606> "Before Abraham was, I am"Thanks for playing.
>>532197587A metropolitan here said that Lutheranism and Orthodoxy have the same gift in a different gift wrapping paper. An assisting priest in my parish said that to those catechumens don't feel Orthodoxy is the right fit for them he tells that the most important thing is to follow your heart even if it leads you to a Pentecostal church. Having read a lot about Orthodoxy being the fullness of the faith, it was quite saddening to hear these comments. What do you think?
>>532197547You are correct, but this is why Donatism is a heresy. We have enough information and knowledge to learn ourselves, if you have opportunity to learn but are too lazy to do so then you will be judged for being a lukewarm sloth ridden bad fruit, if you never had the capacity or the opportunity to access more you will not be judged of course.God knows his relationship with you, and he knows what you are doing, the physical church serves as a teleological archetype of Gods heavenly kingdom and in this sense you can mysteriously participate in Gods energies, receive gifts of his grace through sacraments etc. But this relationship is ultimately reflected within your soul, when anti-christ comes and the world will be turned to a desolated mess do you think baptisms done in the river possibly with slightly improper form by those who oppose the devil will be judged by God? Of course not, God meets us at the maximum capacity of our capabilities. This does not mean we should not act, I have personally confronted priests before for the complete lack of cathechesis in Orthodox Church today and I believe that it is a grave sin to allow our dogmas to become infected with superstition. But we need to ask ourselves, what does God want from us? He wants us not to be lukewarm, he wants us to be faith driven, he wants us to be humble and very careful of our pride so that we do not deny truth when we see it, he wants us to bear our cross to the most of our capacity. If we live on that edge where our faith truly drives us towards his grace we need to trust his mercy even if you might not have had capacity to receieve fullness of understanding in life and unkowingly committed errors.
>>532197686The people in your picture are dressed literally like First Temple priests.
>>532197587kek, I can only imagine how governments will treat the the tens millions of welfare christians studying theology, refusing to work and serve in the army like the heredi jews.
>>532197686It's based on being a homosexual and being attractive for Ottoman cocks in Constantinople.
>>532197919This is a heresy of course, Gods word needs to be kept like the most sacred treasure, even though as fallen depraved sinners we are lucky to even just have access to correct phronema let alone actualize it in faith.Orthodoxy is the fullness, if one becomes a priest he has to believe this, if he believes this then he must want to save others with passion in his heart because even from a secular point of view if a person sees someone unknowingly dying from poison you would want to save them.People being told these lies by the grace of God will not be judged and God willing they will find truth the creator of this universe and the logos of existence himself can not be unjust, but those priests are in deep trouble unless they repent. God can make anything good, because God created world to be good and it was the fall in which we introduced the stain of sin. This means that of course through spread of Protestantism God willing good can come when a Protestant in Korea eventually decides to research history of the faith and comes across Orthodoxy. But these relative goods do not mean that the protestant faith itself is full, to suggest that is a heresy.
>>532198021They are literally not. As I said, maybe the bishop's mitre (with a big stretch) resembles Aaronic priests' head dress, but the rest are modeled on the Roman officials' garb of the first centuries AD. Even Jesus and the saints are portrayed in the icons wearing Roman nobleman's garb.
>>532197919>What do you think?He's full of bullshit. Nobody got to a good place by "following your heart". (This is true even in the secular sense too.)
>>532198096Clearly it is working out for the jews because the only ones reproducing at high enough rates are the ultra-orthodox over there.Look, of course ideally priests should not act as if cathechesis is optional and they should have their theology on point, but sadly that is not the case, thankfully we have enough access to information to passively study on our own.I work successfully, by Gods mercy I was gifted a large family and I am able to support them, I still managed to defeat nihilism and atheism just by passively studying over the years.
>>532198317>They are literally notThey literally are.>modeled on the Roman officials' garb of the first centuries ADThey're not wearing a toga, retard.
>>532196059>christcucki worship the devil
>>532197682This.>>532197547The difference between "honor" and "grovel" is a purely emotional attempt to manipulate, i.e., fake and gay just like you.
>>532189399>did not adhere whatsoever to what we now know as Judaism>was circumcised >knew the torah>preached in synagogues>called a non-jew a dog>ordered disciples to only preach to jewish cities first>BuT hE's NoT a JeW!!
>>532196908Judaism is Satanism, it is not Christianity
>>532198317This is not true, each nations vestments vary based on the nations input aesthetics because every nation can be deified, but the Telos in which the garments are used is identical to temple Judaism. It's the same way how Georgian orthodox churches look significantly different than Byzantine or Russian but they doesn't mean that the Telos isn't the same.
>>532198292>This means that of course through spread of Protestantism God willing good can come when a Protestant in Korea eventually decides to research history of the faith and comes across OrthodoxWhat I find puzzling is that God is leading so few Protestants to Orthodoxy. There are countless of Protestants who have deep authentic desire to serve God to the best of their ability, yet many of them will never be led to consider Orthodoxy let alone give it a fair chance.
>>532198686>God is leading so few Protestants to Orthodoxyyou're joking, protestants are leading the orthodoxy explosion in america
>>532198485>They literally are.>wearing a togakek, you truly are a moron
>>532198560I'm for the Russian victory against the Kiev's regime (not Ukraine in general) as a political question.
>>532188516kinohttps://youtu.be/Sc27-dmJ_4w
>>532198873Well who else would the converts be? Orthodoxy is seeing a surge in popularity, but so is Protestantism. This is a recent phenomenon, however. Orthodoxy has been in the west for decades yet it's been quite obscure until recently.
>>532198637>but the Telos in which the garments are used is identical to temple Judaism.you can ascribe whatever meaning you want but we're talking about the material, outward look that the vestments were modeled on. And in Byzantine Christianity they were modeled on the Roman, more precisely Constantinople as the eastern Roman empire, imperial garb.
>>532198913typical russian chauvinist mental gymnastics.
>>532199170>imperial garb.*Byzantine imperial court garb of the officials and noblemen.
