Remember that it doesn't have to be this way. We could have electrified every form of transportation by now but we didn't because we assumed that oil would always be dirt cheap and our government was bought off by oil companies to make electrification too expensive.
If we had switched away from oil that would mean this war would have less consequences for the average person and theyd be more likely to ignore it, the Democrats are just smarter ZOG slaves in the big picture.
What do you need to make an electric fleet?Answering that question might tell you why it hasn't happened on a grand scale.
What would you use to make the electricity?
>>532202753Diesel is shrimply the superior energy source for logistics and industrial vehicles. My company is trying out an electric Volvo excavator and front end loader. 3 hours of uptime per 8 hour charge top kek.
>>532202976Use solar panels to power this process.
>>532203345How do you mine the materials to manufacture the panels?Hoe do you transport the materials to the factory to process the materials?How do you power the factory producing them?How do you power the trucks transporting them?How do you power the equipment to install them? How do you power the equipment to remove them when they fail in 15-25 years?
>>532203083Think of why diesel works, is because the pressure generated by the explosion move the engine, that make the engines don't last as much, an electric engine with a fixed energy source will do all the work and be exactly the same at the next day
>>532202959Charging infrastructure. It requires help from governments. No private company has the capital to build something like that.The infrastructure for supplying gasoline and diesel anywhere in the country so that those forms of transportation work is vastly more expensive and complex, mind you. Oil has to be drilled from thousands of feet underground, sent thousands of miles away to refineries where it goes through a maze of processes to be turned into fuel, then put onto trucks to be manually driven and delivered on a constant basis to over a hundred thousand stations evenly spaced out in the country.The infrastructure for charging already mostly exists. The amount of power a semi needs is nothing unusual for industry and most grids can handle it. Making it work just means fortifying the grid where necessary and building the chargers. Once it has been built it is very easy and cheap to maintain compared to gas/diesel.
>>532202976Nobody is burning oil for electricity.
>>532203532um everything would just one day be electric okay?
>>532203646Engine life is secondary to the ability to haul and store it. To store enough energy for a fleet of trucks you only need some storage tanks and another truck running on diesel to supply it. Electricity storage is nowhere near that capability.
>>532203646>an electric engineDoesn't exist. They're motors.Electric powertrains radiate less heat, but the maximum operating temperatures are much lower than that of an ICE, and they have less delta temperature between the environment and the powertrain system. The oil in an ICE can run at 120 degrees even if it's 50+ degrees outside because you can still cool it, just as the delta temperature has a wide operating window. Batteries can run at a max temperature of 65 degrees while E-motors, inverters, AC/DC converters etc can run at a max temperature of 75 degrees. If it's 30 degrees outside, the delta temperature between the environment and the ideal temperature of the electric powertrain components is narrow, which is why electric powertrains fail to run complex drive cycles. Attempting to make trucks and other heavy vehicles into EVs is as retarded as trying to power your phone or computer with a tiny ICE.Then there's the power source. Lithium batteries are disastrous throughout every stage of their lifecycle. Solid-state batteries are vastly better and yet nowhere near good enough.Hardline connected public transport with routes that primarily have constant stop/start low-speed motion in tandem with coasting have been the only successful application of electric motors for propulsion. The currenty problem with oil and all the things that come of it is that there are too many people on Earth using it.
>>532202753Not really. The battery problem isn't solved yet.
>>532203083Just use a charger that can supply megawatts of power and it will charge in 10 minutes just like an EV. That is what we need. Providing these isn't some monumental task. There just has to be some level of will from governments to help fortify the grid and build out the infrastructure.
>>532202976>>532203532 (ICE engines break also btw, so does everything)Nuclear power.Also solar in high altitude equittorial areas to make ammonia both for fertilizer (also clappd up in this bullshit jew war) as well as fuel. Cracking ammonia (stable, non-flammable) into H2 for combustion or H+ ions for use in fuel cells is safe and energy-dense.And OP youre gay as fuck, oil companies all have huge renewable stakes including lithium and shit, and youd be shitbitching about all the poor blacks dying in wars for cobalt.
>>532203532What the fuck does this have to do with oil? Nigger, no country on earth is burning Middle Eastern oil to produce electricity. If we can use electricity instead of oil for our vehicles, then the problem of volatile oil prices is no longer a concern. That is all that I am talking about.
>>532203532Just give every city its own nuclear power plant
>>532203646>>532204077I misread your post since it seems to be about the "pros" of an electric excavator rather than the pros of diesel over electric. The yard they run these electric assets they end up running a diesel excavator for the majority of the workday because 3 hours of battery life is hilarious.
>>532203083>superlativeExcept when you have insane jews running your govt into the graveyard of empires so they can relive Purim-Fest 2026 and the price skyrockets
>>532204170>hydrogen- Low energy density, requires large fuel tanks running at high pressures to store it.- Embrittles and seeps through metals, because naked protons are so small they can pass through solid objects.- Highly flammable and burns without a visible flame.- Explodes at almost any oxygen density, whereas petrol or diesel ignite and burn.
>>532202753you can do oil from pretty much anythingmore electric vehicles will happen when it happens, forcing it would have made and would make everything even more expensivealso there's too little co2 on atmosphere and global warming would be good thing
>>532204170I don't give a fuck about niggers dying in wars. I give a fuck about volatile oil prices causing inflation and recessions and creating economic pain that affects me personally and can easily be avoided.
>>532204399It already happened in China, and now they are laughing at us.You can get an electric car for $8,000 there btw
>>532204378Its not stored as hydrogen its stored as liquid ammoniahttps://amogy.co/news/amogy-presents-worlds-first-ammonia-powered-zero-emission-semi-truck
>>532204085We have been using this electric buses for a while and the change is visible, they are way better in terms of cost effectiveness and they break down a lot less, they are not messy, they are not unclean by designThe battery charge does wonders and they just required an special charging station, I do agree more torque means more heat and it complicates the design of it but am sure just making cooling systems more standard will fix most issues
>>532202976The electricity is cleaner and far more efficient. Most of fossil fuels emery is wasted in the form of heat and unburned wastes. You don’t need fossil fuels to generate electricity- naturally occurring forces like the flow of air or a body of water can generate energy— but fossil fuels are used far more efficiently generating heat to produce electricity than they are generating power to move a vehicle. Diesel trains are actually diesel generated electricity that powers the train.
>>532203532oh my god you want to buy an internal EXPLOSION engine car???? umm sweaty what are you going to pull the carts out of the mines for the iron to make those engine blocks with??? uhm that's right, HORSES, because internal EXPLOSION engines break down.i'll be sticking with ol' bess thank you very MUCH.
>>532204321There's nothing hyperbolic in what I post. At the very least it'll be diesel that will get us to a 1000 year Green Reich.
>>532204468Thats good that you dont care about them you shouldnt.But dumb nigger wars would also cause this shit if you have people blowing the lobito corridor to kingdom come and people are talking about how its going to take 12 years to rebuild the railroads and ports that are now part of the proxy war system.Actually this is already happening with uranium in the shahel region of niggerstan.
>>532202753Electric generators require natural gas, oil, or hydro idiot. They still use oil. In fact they use more because of how thermo dynamics work. Internal combustion is more efficient because it's generated within the machine, there's less loss from switching.
>>532202753.>if you usee the faucet and drank the government fluoride water you wouldn't have died when the jews added poison by mistake in your wells, goys
>>532204799Ive only been in chile for a week and the air is noticeably better here.
>>532203532Electricity.We’re not talking 100% reliance on electricity but we are talking about getting off the oil tit for everyday electrical consumption.Seems to be working fine in other countries going in that direction. We’re just being held back by the vultures selling oil by their equating oil with patriotism, eagles, and manly shit. Electric cars are not lacking power by any means- only the noisy exhaust systems we’ve come to love. Time to move on or forever be enslaved to our oil masters market whims.United States has fallen behind in the technology and energy fields and it is by design.
>>532203345That's the biggest irony in all of this. Any kind of serious move to reduce the impact of electrical power generation on the environment would involve average customers paying less and less for their electrical power as the process continued (we'd all be using products that are more energy efficient and also we'd all be owners of systems that produce electrical power). But the entire narrative has become that we should all be paying more for it and then praying that the eletrical monopoly/monopsony will use that money to somehow help the environment down the line.
>>532204015Charging infrastructure is an investment toward a future. You don’t build it according to how many e-cars on the road. Some of the reasons sales have been weak is the lack of infrastructure and high prices covering the newer tech. If the infrastructure structure was in place, the buyers will come. It’s odd that many electric vehicles have similar or better range on a single charge than gas powered vehicles have on a full tank and yet range anxiety still exists. Mostly the knowledge that finding a charging station on long trips may require more planning due to a lack of infrastructure. If you have a charge station at home, worrying about driving locally shouldn’t even be an issue yet it still exists.
>>532204077Electricity can be transferred via wire. How do you think they light up cities so far away from fuel sources?
>>532204133And it won’t be if the demand remains low and prices remain high. No problems developing more fuel efficient vehicles the last few years when alternative fuels were a threat. Now we have a government promise of cheap oil and fuel and we’ve go back to production on large clunky fuel inefficient designs again rather than pushing the bar for efficiency. The difference between wealthy and poor have also created and catered markets of luxury fuel burning crap rather than finding relatively efficient and economical solutions to transportation issues.
>>532206498The demand for batteries is already high enough that lithium has become a strategic resource in short supply. China can pump out cheap passenger EVs because they don't give a shit if the batteries die in 3 years, they'll just make another. But even China doesn't use EVs for hauling yet because electric energy storage hasn't caught up to the sheer energy density of gasoline. Yes EVs are the future but the technology is not nearly mature enough to fit the all the roles people need it to, only some of them.
>>532206018>Charging infrastructure is an investment toward a future.Stop with your moron opinions. Wireless power was a thing with Tesla 100+ years ago.Charging infrastructure and battery cars are for literal fags. Wireless power orbust. Until then, stfu && keep on dialating.
>>532207064>Wireless power or>bust.Do you know how to make that work efficiently without negative externalities?
>>532207243>do you know how to make that work What planet do you live on?en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wardenclyffe_Tower>1901
>>532202753Remember that the worldwide electricity grid is still powered mainly by petroleum products and other fossil fuels so even electrifying transportation wouldn't solve the problem of dependence on oil.Also the semi is crap, has no range or cargo capacity because of the batteries and still hasn't entered mass production like the roadster before it.
>>532206168That covers the hauling part now how do you store it?
>>532202753I bought my gasoline F150 for $5k. Will you sell me a replacement electric truck for $5k? Also I don't own a home. Will you sell me a house at a pice I can afford so I can have my own electric charger?
