What are the implications of birthright citizenship remaining a mainstay of the American experience? I think it's hilarious that the supreme court that HE HIMSELF PICKED turned on him like that.
>>532218064If he wanted to repeal birthright citizenship he should've introduced a Constitutional Amendment
>>532218064Eventually America will get so bad (and we're almost there) that no one will come here anyway.
>We are the only Country in the World STUPID enough to elect a child rapist into the oval office #fellforitagainaward
Well the court knows that the 14th amendment couldn't possibly have meant that illegals get to shit out citizens. We have the congressional debates available, they're the historical record.Instead they like the faulty reasoning of a 128 years old case that opened the door to this mistake in the first place. Legislating away sovereignty and the value of citizenship from the bench.
>>532218064Birthright citizenship is what made america white america, specially after WW2 the inmigrants from europe escaping the war lead to the 1950's north american white utopia, without it, it will never happen again
>>532218119The 14th amendment repudiates the court's reasoning, they're just going to rely on their own case law instead.
>>532218298We had naturalization acts since 1790, that's what made america white.
>>532218119i agree, it should be very easy to close the vacation baby loophole at least. births from a temporary travel visa obtaining citizenship is quite ridiculous.however in reality this was the intention from the beginning, trump doesn't want to revoke it, nor do the powers that be. he simply wanted the appearance of opposing immigration for the purposes of obtaining votes.this is kind of thing is exactly the same as his first term, people who can't see through it are probably somewhat mentally retarded.
>>532218064>I think it's hilarious that the supreme court that HE HIMSELF PICKED turned on him like that.the problem is that the constitution is extremely clear, anyone born here is a citizen. Cant get around that.
>>532218119You're absolutely delusional if you think the supreme court doesn't wipe their asses with the constitution. They would unironically say a new amendment is unconstitutional before it was ratified. You don't realize how bad it actually is. The court does not care about the constitution, they care about kickbacks and current day sensibilities.
>>532218783Anyone who is born here without a citizenship in another country* is a citizen, fucking retard. Guess who that applies to? Fucking nigger slaves.
>>532219067Can you show me where it says that? Your imagination does not count, I know you store your gender identity there and room is running out.
>>532219313Let me guess you don't know how to read and you think the second amendment isn't actually about only people in militias having guns.>All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.Let me give you a hint, if you have to answer to another country you aren't under our jurisdiction. Only an actual retard would think that a Mexican national cunt dropping a kid would make that kid American and not Mexican.
>>532219622Your imagination, got it.you lost tranny, even the trump pics laughed at the arguments.
>>532219622But I'm being generous, I'll take your ass backwards interpretation, but deport the illegal Mexican, the kid can stay or leave. :) I don't think you even realize how bad it's going to get, you really think you're winning? Keep pushing, find out, you're already completely routed everywhere. You people will run out of money. You will starve to death and you can live with the illegals in the slums.
>>532219622>you aren't under our jurisdiction.if migrants came here and were allowed to rape and kill and commit crime and the police said oh well cant do anything about it they aren't in our jurisdiction THEN they would not get citizenship if born here.
>>532218064There are actually 33 countries that do this. What is the point lying about something so easily debunked?
>>532219899So you become a Mexican if you commit a violent crime in Mexico? Is that the interpretation you're taking? Anyways, it doesn't matter, you'll find out what old faggots opinions of a piece of paper actually means on the ground. Only a matter of time until a state decides the supreme court isn't so supreme.
>>532220183YesSee that retard Johnny Somali
He's never going to pass the budget for a middle east forever war.
>>532218119They can't even pass the fucking SAVE act that apparently like 70-80% of people want, what makes you think that ANYTHING will get passed under trump? The senate is doing fuck all.
>>532218292>Well the court knows that the 14th amendment couldn't possibly have meant that illegals get to shit out citizensRelying on the 'spirit' of the law to make rulings instead of the explicit text was cringe and gay activist judicial faggotry according to conservative legal experts from 1933 up until 2025. Idiots cut themselves off at the knees thinking they were hamstringing lefty overreach.
>>532220224Subject to criminal law != to citizenship. I really hope you're just playing dumb.
>>532218064He had to pick from those that had a viable chance to be confirmed by the congress.
>>532218064Does he think America is less stupid with him at the top of the shit pile?
>>532220401Well good thing the written law is explicit about the conditions of birthright citizenship like "not being a citizen of another country".
Birthright citizenship was for nigger slaves. We caused a lot of mess with this shit of a law to grant them citizenship.
>>532218064All muricans have to buy their citizenship at future...to make it fair...everyone have to do it...hahaha.
>>532218064America is doomed. If it's not illegals it'll be H1-Bs. Demographics are destiny and both parties have sold us out for cheap labor. That includes Trump.
>>532220516That is the exact point you are too retarded to seeCitizenship comes from the law, the child is a new person unaffected by its parents under US jurisdiction at time of birth. Keep posting, the fact you want feelings based interpretation of the constitution now just shows how unserious you are. You know what other nations also don't do, the second amendment. You want to argue that because of that we should get rid of it?
>>53221806414A is the jews favorite amendment and Trump is the Jews’ best goy. They should have gone after chain migration directly rather than the anchor babies who can only be “anchors” insofar as they are attached to a chain.
>>532218064It means that America ends and life gets steadily worse.
>>532218064They haven't made a ruling your just jewing
if birthright citizenship ends, America has atleast another 250 years. If it stays, America sees some real hardship around 2060-2080 before full balkanization by 2100.
>>532218119Why did no one know what the 14th really meant until over 50 years after it was created?
>>532218064All the rural white trash gets replaced with immigrants while the white trash starts taking opioids
>>532220661Citizenship literally has a definition and one such definition is "duties" which means taxation, draft, etc and also in my argument, means you aren't subject to taxation, draft, duties to a home country, which many illegals (or their parents) are.
I think it made more sense when it took weeks to get here, and because of Manifest Destiny and need to grow we kind of just let it continue for a century and a half. In the world of rich foreigners plopping out their kids, it should end.
if it isn't retroactive then it changes nothing that you couldn't replicate by just securing the border and changing policy on visitor visas.limit visitors to less than 3 monthsdeny visas to pregnant women (if they are too fat to tell, deny them too lmao)
>>532218119>Just get 38 states to pass a constitutional amendment, bro.
>>532218064>mistake
>>532218119Anon, you need 3/4 of the States to approve a Constitutional amendment. You think ANY of the blue states are going to go for that? The only hope was forcing it through a Republican Supreme Court
>>532218064The real problem is that Most Americans are too stupid to understand a concept like jurisdiction. (Without consent there is no jurisdiction, only conquest.)
>>532218064It's not too surprising. Trump is obviously the weak horse, and basically completely invalidated conservatism. Of course the court will tell him to fuck off.
>>532218064Total libtard victory and Bidenwave 2.0 that serves to ensure Republicans can never win again, which will be largely welcomed after Trump's presidency is over.
The right of jewnited states to be a mutt nation shall not be infringedAmerica the beautiful, it’s like living in a giant open air airport! So exciting
>>532223922With what money? Trump is running up the debt, spiking bond yields, and the USD is probably going to lose another 25% of its purchasing power if it's no longer the reserve currency (this nigger Trump's genius plan)
It would be funny if they passed this and he was the first to be deported back to Germany.
And anyway, the 14th Amendment was clearly meant to give freed slaves citizenship after the Civil War and that was it, I don't think that's in dispute.
>>532218231Your entire government is compromised with child rapists. Hell, wasn't there one of the democrats that got questions spoonfed to her by epstein himself during a trump impeachment? He donated absurd amounts of money to both parties, he has ingrained himself into politics for 30 years. In 2008 he got the best pleadeal in US history and then for 10 years people just ignored him and any co conspirator, democrats, republicans, everyone. You pretending like your idiocy started with electing trump is laughable, you are retarded goy cattle that has been ruled by pedophiles ever since you were born. You don't hate pedophiles, you hate trump. You are not a virtuous person, you are retarded goycattle.
>>532218537There's actually not a single bit of evidence even one beaner has been deported. It's been 10 years of this and... anyone got a story? Never heard one on /pol/, never overheard a beaner complain about ice deporting one of em. 10 years and total silence. Seriously. Not ONE deportation has happened.
>>532224047Just print more lmao
>>532223922Immigration is a top issue on both sides, anon. Look at the ICE protests in Minnesota, Cali, etc. Democrats in those states aren't going to cross that line. The issue is far too hot and they would be voted out immediately if they tried
>>532218064The only reason he was able to become president was because of birthright citizenship.
the supreme court doesn't matter
>>532219005Amendments can't be unconstitutional.
>>532224335Oh and my favorite example: not one single video of an ice deportation. Only big shows made out of driving on the street while "protesters" (I guess we're supposed to believe they're protesters. That's the official story) throw rocks.
>>532224414I'm sorry but do you understand why there are anti ICE protests? Surely you are not so fucking dumb to think it's because "the dems want open borders!" fox news twitter propaganda right?
>>532224657It's absolutely part of the reason, leaf faggot. Democrats are openly against any and all forms of immigration enforcement. Not that their other whining complaints are much better>m-muh masksYeah, because insane leftists want to dox them. And sometimes special law enforcement units (think SWAT) wear masks. This is not unprecedented >m-muh use of forceAgain, it's something that is unfortunately common in law enforcement, especially when you have retards who think they can drive their cars into cops and get away with it.Any other reddit talking points, faggot? I'll gladly explain why you are wrong and also a faggot
I WISH I COULD SEE THE LOOK OF THAT ANON STUPID FUCKING FACE AFTER MAKING SO MANY THREADS ABOUT THIS! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>532224606You playing dumb proves my point, you don't believe your own words
>>532218537> miggers are retardedWow, at last I truly sneed…
>>532225022> Again, unfortunately, you need to let violent, untrained 75 IQ beaners with absolutely immunity shoot you in the back to own the libsDo you see why this is unpopular? You niggers are gonna get raped in the midterms and sneethe endlessly about MUH VOTER FRAUD insisting everyone actually loves you. You’re less self aware than jeets.
>>532223350He could've at least tried doing it the proper way first and THEN lean on the Supreme Court
Trump is a retard but he is right. It makes zero sense, Brazil has the same law, lots of Africans, Haitians and Russians come here to have children and get the citizenship, use the "free" healthcare that is actually backed up with taxpayer money too
>>532226923>You niggers are gonna get raped in the midtermsI don't support either party. I agree that Republicans are going to lose BIGLY in the midterms (mostly thanks to Iran and the economy still being shit) and when they do I'll ve right there laughing with you. But I agree witg ICE and immigration enforcement, and I think the pushback against it is peak retard. This shit is necessary. We have to enforce our borders and immigration laws. If an ICE agent goes too far, then you investigate and discipline the agent accordingly. But acting like we need to "abolish ICE" is just as retarded as arguing to defund the police when a cop guns down some dindu who was reaching for a gun.
>>532219622I can tell you have zero college and lack even basic critical thinking skills. Like even if we ignore your failure to understand the term subject to the jurisdiction thereof or all the precedence setting cases around it. You seem to forget it's the kid we are talking about. Like in what world is a kid who's first breath ever is in the USA somehow not subject to the jurisdiction thereof? You think the baby is paying rent in China?Sure I'd like to see the 14th changed to needed at least one parent is a USA citizen to fain citizenship. Yet it needs to be done the right way. Not trying to bluff and end run around the constitution with a bs EO.
>>532225022Ok, honest if you want to get rid of illegals, why don't you execute every single person in the US then? You would then have no more illegals.
>>532227586>illegalsIllegal under whose law? US citizens aren't illegal under US law. Like it or not, the US government has the power to make and enforce its laws, so they get to decide who is illegal, and they aren't about to recognize themselves or their own citizens as illegal. I didn't expect much from you, but a reddit GOTCHA question like that is even below my already low expectations
>>532226990Why? Because that’s what everyone else does?
>>532228648Because it would've lended legitimacy to his undertaking which in turn would've provided him a better foundation to argue for it in front of the Supreme Court.
