>>532219464democracy isn't possible anymore
>Social Media usage: 5 hours per day lol.4chan /pol/, what is your profession?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNa3Co83_gk
>>532219464Democratic governments are literally incapable of committing to long term plans going beyond 4 years. Democracy, by its nature, has no future.
>>532219464people who use social media a lot simply are presented with plenty of evidence why democracy with universal voting right is a failed experiment
You moron that's literally just a correlation with age
>>532220110more than that, it would be counterproductive for politicians to actually think beyond the next 4 years>invest the money instead of spending it on consumption>people are mad because they get to consume less>vote someone else in>someone else benefits from your investments long term
>>532220229>democracy with universal voting right is a failed experimentyeah unlike the various forms of Prussian and German military juntas and dictatorships
>>532220110>Democratic governments are literally incapable of committing to long term plans going beyond 4 years.We have water tunnel projects that take 50 years to complete. Maybe the problem is the way we conduct our democracy? Like billions of dollars spent on campaign ads just to attack the other candidate....how is that not corrosive to the moral fabric of society?
>>532219464There is no democracy under capitalism. Especially under late stage capitalism where choice is an illusion and the candidates are all pre-selected puppets for special interest groups.
>>532220546True democracy has never been tried
>>532219464anything is better than going back to feudalismdemocracy is fine, because:>at least we have two nepobabies from two different streams, who have other low-level nepobabies working for them and making decisions for them. (this also depends on what country you're from)>Modern capitalism allows, perhaps not for individual success, but if you make the effort, you can invest in generational success: be the first generation to accumulate wealth and inherit it; then your children will be the second generation to accumulate wealth and inherit; by the third generation, you'll have a nephew if all goes well; in the worst-case scenario, by the fourth generation, at least this family will have improved its economic status and social standing. under feudalism, this was impossible.
>>532220546So the solution is a one party state?
>>532219464The internet has been a disaster for state control. They can't brainwash kids like they did boomers through the tee vee box
>>532220777Imagine having a king who inherited the throne at 15, and nothing changes, absolutely no improvements, and everything gets worse until this king dies, an entire generation ruined by having a stupid king.At least nowadays there's a change of power.
>>532219464>5+ hours of social media dailyWhat do they even do?
The websites aren't doing anything to influence your opinion on this matter other than exposing you to the opinions of the average voter. The more time you spend around other people, the more you realize "holy shit, everyone is retarded" and either want a government where you are the dictator, or a total lack of government.
>>532219464Capitalism can work if you control it this way.>No speculation of equities so no put no call no short selling no derivatives no futures>No complex contracts like life insurance, provident fund, social security>currency issued should be backed by physical asset>no money market>no lobbying >politicians, policmen, and judicial "employee" have no more power than a dalit cleaning toilets. They do what they are supposed to do. They can no longer invest their money in anything else expect private possession of household items.>No finance capitalism>No export of capital>No import of labor>No private equity >Companies can not buy stakes in another in another company>Companies are worth what they product themselves. >Tax according to income/revenue/wealth. A company can not reach untouchable status.>Payment networks are nationally run>If a product become essential (operating system, phone, car), it is nationalizedBasically TKD.
>>532219464more like interacting with average voter more makes you doubt democracy. Still superior to autocracies tho
>>532219464All this points to ks that, the more people you interact withPeople used to think democracy was god because they unly interacted with like 30 people on their day to day and it was people of a similar background to them and usually friends and family.Once you have access to mass ammounts of thoughts of your fellow countrymen, you realize that any form of government "by the people" is going to be fucking retarded.Plus there is the problem mentioned by >>532220110 where the current widespread form of democracy of 4 year terms is flawed by default. A system with longer terms but where kicking the rulers mid-term is easy would be much better to keep the rulers in check but give them more space to think long term.
>>532219464Democracy is basically rule of the majority. In a republic you have your god given rights that nobody can take away. I would be satisfied if market anarchism could be implemented in society kek
>>532219464>>532220010>we're free speech!4chan is a key participant in the MAGA (((psyop)))
>>532221278>god given rights that nobody can take awayHow can you have a right to life when a nigger can walk up and shoot you?
>>532219464>the more exposed you are to the masses the less likely you think democracy is a good idea
>>532220777Anon, historically, generational wealth has only been a thing when doing strategic marriages and giving almost everything to the firstborn. If you don't do that, the wealth dillutes faster than it accumulates and your descendants return to the mean in a couple generations.
>>532221155So capitalism works if ypu remove all the features of capitalism, got it
>>532220400Lack of democracy and the ability to enact unpopular policies of short term pain for long term gain seems to have worked out pretty well for China. Had they went with a liberal democracy they'd still be a fucking backwater, much like India.
>>532221155I don't need a fucking Indian's "opinions" on anything. You're a retard who should keep his ignorant jamboy mouth shut.
>>532219464I understand now why they suddenly want to ban social media
>>532219464Yeah 4chan doing programs.>>532220400The un does programs.>>532220836Croatia does clown stuff.>>5322213204chan exists to learn about societal factors.
>>532219464Which websites? You have a graph regarding screen time. I don't know who you're talking about or why you're here.
>>532221155>>No speculation of equities so no put no call no short selling no derivatives no futuresStopped reading right there.Holy midwit.All those things exist to make the market more stable by offering ways you can hedge against volatility or the opposite direction of your main investment.Take all that shit away and you will get a 1928 stock crash every couple decades where all the regular people get wiped out and the elites buy everything up for pennies.
>>532221369You are right, i should have written institutions cannot take away. Because in democracy your rights can be taken away.
>>532220925>Imagine having a king who inherited the throne at 15, and nothing changes, absolutely no improvements, and everything gets worse until this king diesThere's always a way of expediting the process.
>>532219464More like exposure to other people from other backgrounds redpills you. I bet you can see similar graphs based on number of hours driven, the more you drive, the less you trust democracy.
>>532221632Nigger there's no such thing as rights. Get a grip. Best we can do is have leaders who take pride in their country and its people. Democracy is incapable of providing that. In order to be a good leader you need to:1) Be wealthy enough to be above bribing2) Be guaranteed power so you don't need to beg in elections every 4 years3) Be born and raised for the positionWhat system does that sound like to you? Sounds like Monarchy to me.
>>532219464Share of US Founding Fathers who agree democracy is the best form of government: 0%
>>532221683Yup i bet being a retail worker is also negatively correlated to being pro democracy, while office workers are for it.
>>532221452>So capitalism works if ypu remove all the features of capitalism, got itLol you. You tried to gaslight me. I only removed the jewish elements, the dishonest elements.
>>532221626>All those things exist to make the market more stable by offering ways you can hedgelmao another jewish cum filled brain. >>532221542ok retard
>>532219464the more you hear people spout bullshit the more you realize the people are retarded
>>532219600Democracy has always been a shit ideology, which is why the founding fathers made our country a republic and not a garbage democracy. The USA's decline can be traced back when the individual was given the right to vote.
>>532221779>1) Be wealthy enough to be above bribingThere is no such thing. There are lots of studies showing that extreme wealth reshapes how your brain works in a way that resembles that of a clinically diagnosed psychopath. Having a lot of money just makes people not consider regular people as human beings.The only actual way to be above bribing is to be morally righteous, a set of values you actually follow and not be materialistic, so basically the complete opposite of the type of person that our current world promotes and gives power to.
>>532219464I don't believe in democracy.
>>532219464We’ve never experienced a democracy before. No one has.
>>532221779All you're saying is that might is right. Rights from God exist in the way that a powerful weapon gives you the right not to get killed by a feral lunchtime rowdie. Government grants privileges in exchange for forfeiture of sovereignty then calls those privileges rights to induce cognitive dissonance in neurotypicals of low to middling IQ.Ok, so what? They've been at the ruse long enough to keep from being killed by a maligned, solitary noticer and whatever group of Cosmic Crisp havers he can bring with him.
>>532221919I bet you are just a subhuman retard that used those tools for gambling and got jewed by Jane street.That you use a shovel wrong doesn't mean shovels shouldn't exist, it means you are fucking retarded.
>>532219464https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTPPWGXUX38
Democracy only works in white homogeneous society. Seeing that the USA is no longer one,. it indeed does not work anymore.
>>532221155Is there a horseshoe theory of capitalism/communism where they merge to become indistinguishable at the extremes?What's the difference between an international cabal of oligarchs and an international governing party?
>>532221155Do you know whats so great about this video? Its the fact that Indians don't know how to swim. Thats how we feel about you. Vermin
>>532222297So does full blown Communism. Political ideology doesn't matter, race does.Religion? Just ideology. Headcanon. Psyops. Proposition nationhood in place of identifiable similitude.
>>532219464the problem with democracy is that it is no longer democraticallow people to vote directly on important issues and you will see a great improvement in society
>>532219464fascism is the way tho
>>532220961I smoke weed and drink 12 beers a day while watching 6+ hours of youtube between goon sessionsOther anons pay for me to do this. Gobbless america
>>532221779Yes there are rights. If you have a right to buy and own land , and can buy and own guns, that would be enough. Free speech would come after those and bodily autonomy is very important.
>>532222562No you won't. You'll see faster decay and dissolution, nigger. Bureaucracy slows things down, it doesn't hand the losers of whatever particular conflict immediately over to the whims of a mob.
>>532220836Would be better than ZOG
>>532219464
Discussing things amongst each other is something you simply do, it isn't an ideal concept called Democracy that you aspire to with increasing, low barrier access to outsiders over time.
>>532222601>If you have a right to buy and own land , and can buy and own guns, that would be enoughIn my state, if you own 1 acre of land you are probably paying $15,000 a year in property taxes on it, and you cannot legally own I firearm.
>>532223041That sucks. We dont have property tax in croatia. Basically you are a tenant cucked by pedovores kek
>>532219464These people are commies btw
>>532219464Nobody has democracy by the way. I'm not saying some bullshit like we may as well not have it with media manipulation of normies.We literally don't have democracy anywhere, we have democratic representation.Actual democracy asks the people their opinion on every major issue and there are of course no political parties.
>>532223041New Jersey?
>>532219464The democratic party is not democracy. Democracy means I get to choose who I want to represent me.
>>532219464MY DUDE WE CANT BE PROGRAMMED I BEEN THROUGH THIS 20 YEARS AGO YOU OR SOMEONE LIKE YOU SAID THE SAME THING THESE PEOPLE LIKE THEIR SLOPTHEY ALL LOVE EATING INTERNET BOT POOP I KNOW THIS I KNOW ALL
But all I do is watch hookers on the streets
>>532223551lol yep....the people that live here think it is the greatest place in the universe though.
>>532219464Democracy is a form of gang rape
>>532221452You are making a common mistake of conflating capitalism with financialism. The modern world operates on financialism, actual classic capitalism has not existed in generations.
>>532223292That pays for infrastructure, local roads, water etc. you probably have something equivalent under a different name
>>532220010Mods on pol regularly delete threads and ban people. Especially when it's about organization, combating demoralization, Jesuits (why..!), creating parallel infrastructure, and so on.So basically everything except doom scroll slop, infighting, low quality shit and derailment.
>>532219464>Dictator:>takes bribes from vested interests, hands out government money and contracts to those interests and their friends and family, implements whatever policies they like regardless of whether the people agree, imprisons people for prohibited speech, lies to the citizens who don't dare rebel against them>Democratically elected politician:>takes "donations" from vested interests, hands out government money and contracts to those interests and their friends and family, implements whatever policies they like regardless of whether the people agree, imprisons people for prohibited speech, lies to the citizens who don't dare rebel against themLiterally what is the difference?
>>532225361That's not democracy, don't get fooled by the similar name
>>532219464It's not programming. It's quite the opposite.It's DEprogramming.Social Media has killed the lie that Democracy needs."The average voter is as smart as me."EVERYONE who uses social media, even the morons, looks around and realizes they're surrounded by fuckwits.Even absolute retards will look around and say "how the fuck are these people so dumb?"Democracy only thrives as a concept, not as a government but as an ideal, when people believe everyone is sensible.When everyone realizes the people around them are fucking imbeciles they also realize that letting these people have any say in governance is doomed to be just as stupid as they are.This dooms the concept of democracy.And the practice of democracy is doomed when people realize that voting doesn't do shit and we just have an incredibly inefficient dictatorship.
>>532219464Democracy is rule by psychopaths that gaslight the normie civilians that they have the power
>>532225361Under a dictatorship people know they are under a dictatorshipUnder a democracy people think they have the power when they are actually under a dictatorship by a shadow elite that divides and conquers the population.
>>532226955actual democracy has no leader you know, that's the whole point, it's a group vote on individual issues. We have nothing like it, choose your leader and call it a similar name
>>532219464Only 1% of them can define it
I have no idea what democracy is since voting literally does nothing and only counterproductive agendas that hurt average people to enable to the Epstein class and their shabbos house niggers are ever enacted.Democracy is a stupid fucking concept for stupid fucking people. How is Democracy supposed to work when you have every flavor of nigger with the most evil fucks in society in charge in a race of who can be the biggest victim and who can steal the most from everyone else?On a State level, the state government literally does the opposite of whatever the voters have voted for since I can remember and the voting here hasn't been real for almost 30 years. On a Federal level, the US government only works for jews and their niggers. So what the fuck even is a Democracy? A bunch of people who look like me and think like me getting together to create a better future? The government has spent the last 20+ years telling me that's evil. So what is it? jews and their niggers telling everyone else how it's going to be? Fuck that.
>>532219600Democracy can’t exist when jews and browns exist
>>532219464>These websites are programming you>>shows no websites
>>532220010Good joke..the jannies ban here on personal whim and offense lmao.
>>532219464still 57%? long way to go
>>532220836>>532220546>>532220768>So the solution is a one party state?To answer the question, you first have to ask, what's the problem?Then secondly, what are you trying to accomplish?Lastly, ask yourself, why does democracy even exist?Power rules. The weak suffer what they must.
Graph source: https://www.axios.com/2026/03/31/democracy-social-media-heavy-usersStats source:https://www.gallup.com/analytics/697985/democracy-for-all.aspxPDF with data:https://www.gallup.com/file/analytics/704255/Kettering-Gallup_Peoples_Role_in_Democracy_Report.pdf
>>532219464seems like interacting with people just makes you realize they shouldn't be voting
>>532220836>So the solution is a one party state?Paradoxically, a one-party state is often preferable because the government is considered illegitimate. James Madison actually had a discussion with Thomas Jefferson about this very topic. James Madison, if you aren't aware, was one of the founding fathers of the United States, and often referred to as the "Father of the Constitution" because his "Virginia Plan" was the framework for the US Constitution.https://teachingamericanhistory.org/document/letter-to-thomas-jefferson-9/The relevant part is pic-related...Thus, the great irony of tyrannical governments is that they are always weak. This limits their ability to act. As Abraham Lincoln said, "In this country, public sentiment is everything. With it, nothing can fail; against it, nothing can succeed. Whoever molds public sentiment goes deeper than he who enacts statutes, or pronounces judicial decisions."https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/489251-in-this-age-in-this-country-public-sentiment-is-everything
>>532225027Your reply is so accurate that they will probably delete it.
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>>532220546>capitalism is bad because [describes communism]
>>532225698When every democracy devolves into that it's the same difference.
>>532219464Constitutional Monarchy is.If you want to change the rules, the price is blood.Simple as.
>>532219464Democracies are for kikes and fagsRepublics are for White chads
>>532220389maybe these people should understand the future trumps their imagethe people hold the means to hang their reps, its a very easy fix
>>532219464Democracy is an illusion for retards
