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Victory!
Victory!
Victory!
Victory belongs to the Lord!
Victory!
Victory!
Victory belongs to the Lord! We declare victory!
We declare victory!
We declare victory over every attack!
We declare victory over every demonic force!
We declare victory over every plan of the enemy! Victory!
Victory!
Victory!
Victory belongs to the Lord! This is your week of victory!
This is your season of victory!
This is your moment of victory! Victory! Victory! Victory! [shifts to intense, rhythmic chanting with glossolalia]
Hamanda Atka-Ata Raka!
Hamanda Atka-Ata Raka!
Hamanda Atka-Ata Raka!
Shaka-laka-taka!
Shaka-laka-taka! [continues with more rapid, repetitive tongues-speaking sounds, building in volume and speed, with heavy breathing and emphatic delivery]
Atka-raka-shanda!
Raka-shanda!
Hamanda! Hamanda! Victory in Jesus' name!
Victory! Victory! Victory!"
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>>532223549
Catholics disproportionately killed fellow Christians in their history. Fact is, Catholics themselves are the most executed group amongst victims of the papacy.
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Apologize!
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>>532223549
Christianity is a pipeline to MAGA.

Worshipping a Jew don’t help you.
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>>532223646
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD
SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE
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>>532223549
all abrahamic sects are embarrassingly dumb and backwards, cathcucks genocided several european ethnicities and destroyed their traditions
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>>532223806
>Christianity is a pipeline to MAGA. Worshipping a Jew don’t help you.
Back to Discord Faggot.
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>>532223879
>all abrahamic sects are embarrassingly dumb and backwards, cathcucks genocided several european ethnicities and destroyed their traditions
Good, it made Europe more Modern because of it.
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>>532174437
>Dispensationalist Evangelicals
They are a massive voter block in America.
More importantly, multiple positions of high power within American politics are occupied by radical adherents of this denomination.
These politicians are often HARDLINE WARHAWKS, especially when concerning middle-eastern conflicts

>Why does this matter
Dispensationalism is a literalist biblical doctrine notable for its extreme fixation on Armageddon and the Second coming of Christ as prophesized by the Bible.
The aforementioned politicians want 'set the stage' for this apocalyptic event by satisfying the criteria for Armageddon.
Specifically, by engineering a MASSIVE, DESTRUCTIVE WAR CENTERED AROUND ISRAEL.
After Armageddon begins, Christ is promised to return and bestow salvation to the believers - or so the story goes.

Allow me to reiterate.
The AMERICAN GOVERNMENT has been INFILTRATED AND SUBVERTED by a literal DOOMSDAY CULT.
These lunatics have their fingerprints on every major middle-eastern war since WW2, never ceasing to induce the right circumstances for the prophecy.
This part of the reason why these retarded desert wars occurred despite the outsized cost and public disapproval, and why they will continue to occur.
It is a matter of fanatical faith.

This is not a conspiracy.
These people are not subtle about extolling their beliefs.
There's a myriad of publicly accessible statements and video to serve as proof.
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>>532224085
back to twitter jew golem
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>>532224036
lol golem
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>>532224165
did the ADL make your meme for you? lmao
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>>532223549
Evangelicalism zionism is a national security threat on par with radical Islam when you consider the money wasted and body counts of the futile War on Terror and this latest fit of eschaton immanentizing. At a minimum, no Evangelical should ever be allowed to make policy decisions on Middle Eastern affairs going forward.
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>>532224386
back to twitter jew golem
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>>532223549
So it seems, so it seems.
The sack of Magdeburg almost looks like a mercy killing.
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>>532224409
They literally want to manifest the Armageddon. That is a core part of their ideology.
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>>532224481
i just couldn't help but notice most of the points in your meme were from things the ADL has discussed.
https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounder/christian-identity-movement
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>>532224165
>back to twitter jew golem
>christcuck raider
You are a Faggot Leftist...You never belong here in the first place Kek
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>>532223663
Dont you have jews to go suck off, protgolem? Don’t you have some whites you need to go genocide, jew puppet?
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>>532224481
>Be Brazilian not Catholic
How anon?
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>>532223549
christians are the most pathetic losers I've ever seen in my life. Proud, and even enthusiastic of being a slave for a middle eastern god while their country burns around them. It's sickening to see them drag us all down with them.
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>>532224694
>be to the right of the jew golem
>he calls you a leftist
Every time, always the same with your retarded nigger golems.
Denounce israel.
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>>532224553
>>532224409
Yeah evilgelikikes are a jewish terrorist cult
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>>532224333
>lol golem
I don't speak Faggot Tranny kek.
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>>532223549
Wtf i love leftypol now.
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>>532224746
Brazil has a huge evangelical movement that slips its philosemite tendrils into the mind of innocent but simple-minded macacos through american style tele-pastors.
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>>532224805
>Every time, always the same with your retarded nigger golems. Denounce israel.
What's your Faggot Schzio brain telling (You) Bitch. (You) And your Jewish Rats that (You) hate so much can go Kys.
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>>532224921
>Brazil has a huge evangelical movement that slips its philosemite tendrils into the mind of innocent but simple-minded macacos through american style tele-pastors.
Glad some BItch from Sweden can Explain shite from Brazil kek.
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>>532223549
We were 100% right. The evidence is undeniably now.
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>>532224129
This needs to be posted in every single thread about evangelicals. Unlike most cults that try to protect themselves from the end of the world, evangelicals are DELIBERATELY trying to cause it. People who think they're just some harmless nobodies aren't paying enough attention. They're the largest voting bloc in the Republican Party; indeed they pretty much ARE the Republican Party at this point. And they currently have control over our countries armed forces and nuclear weapons.
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>>532223549
I want to maintain my right to be a protestant as an American, but there needs to be some level of accountability and a relationship between Protestants and the Catholic church.
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>>532224975
You are the one worshipping a jew you clueless retard, your entire worldview is completely incoherent and it's very obvious you're a newfag tourist. Go die for israel like you were bred for instead of shitting up this board you worthless mutt.
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>>532224129
>Dispensationalism is a literalist biblical doctrine notable for its extreme fixation on Armageddon and the Second coming of Christ as prophesized by the Bible.
It's also the origin of willfully ignorant bullshit like creationism. If you have an argument with an American atheist they almost certainly believe that evangelicalism is the only form of Christianity and have no comprehension of greater Christendom. Dispensationalist Evangalicalism is a poison attacking the very foundation of the Christian faith, a creeping rot orchestrated by the Jew, and I am quickly coming to suspect that it must be rooted out and destroyed before it kills us all.
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>>532223549
Protestants were the ones who really got your tribe in trouble, that's why you make this shit thread every day.
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>>532225144
Come back. We'll hold the door open
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>>532223549
Woah! Lets not go that far okay? A few lashings + reducation camps would do.
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>>532225154
>You are the one worshipping a jew you clueless retard, your entire worldview is completely incoherent and it's very obvious you're a newfag tourist. Go die for israel like you were bred for instead of shitting up this board you worthless mutt.
Crying Schizophrenia about Dah Jews is not helping you kek
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Trannys Lost
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>>532223549
i just wouldnt be a Christian if the only option was being a pope-worshipping nigger-toe-suckin Mary-worshipping cuckolic.
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>>532225255
Denounce israel, denounce your jew in a stick you retarded mutt.
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When the Epstein class compromised Christians take us to war, it is then the jewish media's job to convince people that it has religious Christian support. Queue up Hagee and fake news polls about how Christians think the world of Jews and that they can do no wrong
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>The Christian creation myth is just the jewish creation myth
Um. Christ-sisters? Explain?
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>>532225470
Do you mean genesis?
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>>532225087
Nukes are not resl
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>>532224409
Ironically Shia islam is the Islamic mirror version of them regarding apocalyptic eschatology among mainstream Muslim sects
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>>532225354
>Denounce israel, denounce your jew in a stick you retarded mutt.
This won't help you in life. Get real help from Therapy. God bless Anon
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>>532223549
In time you will understand that Catholics were right about basically everything.
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>>532223646
how can someone so white, be such a nigger?
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>>532225575
It's kinda surprising that since the Iran Iraq War, Iran if all countries has basically settled into patient realpolitik, and seems to be one of the more rational actors in the region.
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>>532225470
>Um. Christ-sisters? Explain?
Christianity is a Rejection of Jewish Contradictions and Traditions.
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truth is (((modern))) Christianity stopped being legitimate after the second Vatican council
also I wonder if, at this point, it is even possible to find a translated Bible that hasn’t been deliberately misinterpreted
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>>532225649
>So White
>Nigger
Pick one Retard.
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>>532225723
>Christianity is a Rejection of Jewish Contradictions and Traditions.
Great! Just remove everything written by jews from the bible and I might consider becoming Christian.
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that lecturn is peak Trump. What a fucking clown
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>>532225862
>Great! Just remove everything written by jews from the bible and I might consider becoming Christian.
King James Bible?
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>>532225636
Catholicism unfortunately correlates with liberalism and corruption. Stuff like Anglicanism, Lutheranism, and Dutch Calvin's seem to be ideal for a well ordered society.
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>>532225894
Where in KJV is yeshua not a jew?
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You need a GPA of 3.30- 4.40 or Higher to discuss religion and other religious topic in the Thread.
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>>532225649
come to america some time. the land of white nigges.
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>>532226036
>Where in KJV is yeshua not a jew?
Go cry Jews in your Discord General Faggot. Adult Anons are talking.
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>>532226061
surely you meant to say IQ
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>>532223646
She was molested as a kid and it really fucked her up and she became a predator, but not in the same way.
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>>532226103
Answer the question you dishonest kike loving mutt, or go shill for your jew death cult on facebook instead.
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>>532225907
If people would actually stay Anglican, Calvinist and not be pipelined into atheism and irreligion within a few generations
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Jesus was a Muslim that pagans corrupted into being God's son and co-God
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>>532226036
The part where he doesn't support usury and degeneracy
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>>532226108
>surely you meant to say IQ
IQ is a Faggot Meme, a GPA is the true measure of Intelligence or Scholastic value. You notice Gen Z's GPA is in the dirt kek
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>>532224129
End of Evangelion was just supposed to be an improved finale, not an instruction video
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>maybe
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>>532225907
The Protestants invented liberalism faggot
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>>532226188
>Answer the question you dishonest kike loving mutt, or go shill for your jew death cult on facebook instead.
Validating your Tranny and Lefty urges wont do anything.
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>>532223549
love how catholics always have to point out the most anti christian people and lump them into the protestant shelf to justify their existence.
protip: roman catholocism isnt christian either
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>>532226265
so is their IQ so I don’t see where you’re getting at
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>>532223663
Catholic countries are pretty shit, that’s why so many followed us here.
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>>532226345
Which one of us invented liberalism faggot?

Atleast when the Orthodox broke of they didnt splinter into a million different fag factions. We had 1 or 2 churches for 1500 years. A week after Protestants start fucking around we have 100,000. Tower of Babel shit.
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>>532226399
>so is their IQ so I don’t see where you’re getting at
So many Fake IQ Tests made the Concept of IQ irrelevant kek.
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>>532226260
Muslims are ultimately just Arab Mormons.
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>>532226473
>Which one of us invented liberalism faggot?
the Jesuits, the counter reformation stooges of the vatican.
>We had 1 or 2 churches for 1500 years
all early churches where decentralized home churches. the church started with countless independent churches.
>Tower of Babel shit.
way easier for satan to infiltrate one central church, best if its headed by a single person. where do you think satan will plant his agents?
enjoy your satanic jesuits popes, you handed the roman catholic church over to satan on a silver platter.
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>>532223549
OP is brown.
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>>532223646
ANGELIC FORCES ARE COMING FROM AFRICA!
MUBA TAPA LAPPA BOOM DOO!
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>>532226707
>all early churches where decentralized home churches
Peter founded the Catholic Church in like 60 AD, and by 300 AD it was the only church that mattered. There werent even churches IN germany before the Catholic Church was dominant. What are you talking about?

>liberalism was invented by the Vatican.
Oh yes. The force that ultimately removed churches from state power was definitely the Catholics lol. Wut?

For all the problems the pope has, he hasnt completely folded on Fags and Abortions like every prottie church on earth.
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>>532223646
Chaka, Chaka, Chaka
Chaka Khan
Chaka Khan
Chaka Khan
Chaka Khan
Chaka Khan, let me rock you
Let me rock you, Chaka Khan
Let me rock you, that's all I wanna do
Chaka Khan, let me rock you
Let me rock you, Chaka Khan
Let me rock you, let me feel for you
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>>532223549
it's true, no one else could survive the onslaught trump has
god is obviously protecting him
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>>532223549

Catholics are brown trash.
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>>532226188
at least he doesn't have to roll around on a furniture dolly in the dust like a russian begging for vodka money.
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>>532225238
But the USA was built for Protestant values and we see insane innovations and growth on top of a heavy emphasis on freedoms and liberty. Moreover, at the head of every woman is a man, and at the head of every man is Christ. While you want to be in a church, in a community of likeminded persons, ideally you want to be decentralized and each person have their direct relationship with God.
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>>532227056
>Peter founded the Catholic Church in like 60 AD
Incorrect. The Roman "Catholic" so-called church was founded in 756 by Pepin the Short.
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>>532227543
What exactly were these revolutionary protestant ideas beside separating the church from the state?

Which was a bad idea
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>>532227693
The separation of Church from state was done long before 1000 AD. It was Christianity that pioneered the conception of the secular world from the heavenly affairs. But I do admit the Protestant Revolution with Martin Luther... we haven't recovered from it.

basing my knowledge from what I learned here tbqh
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>>532227140
I feel for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW0sxgYAmLM
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>>532223549
>MAYBE CATHOLICS WERE RIGHT TO BURN PROTESTANTS
>>american education ladies and gentlemen.
Picrel is the reason for the invention of Protestantism. The translation of the Bible for the normal people. Guess who didn't want the normal people to know what's REALLY written in Bible.
Right. You can tell who's nose-oriented by the facts that only Americans ignore the facts and that these are the one fiddled like a violin by them.
It's an American flag. Every single time. The coordinated hate against the long dead men and women who made the text of the Bible PUBLIC. (IT WAS NOT BACK THEN, just interpreted from outside (foreign) clericals to the people. Wow: Nobody cares in America. These "foreign" clericals tried hard to tell people shit. Even threatend them they will die in the "Fegefeuer". A new invented term that means : "if you don't pay us clerics a lot of shekel you will end in hell anyway, but buy this little piece of paper, it makes you immune to sins you've done for like a month." Luther, a studied theological clerical, able to read Latin and Hebrew knew it better and fought against this scam.
Again: guess which people fought against him. And now do. Till now. Do.
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>>532227056
>Peter founded the Catholic Church in like 60 AD
Jesus Christ founded his Church not Peter. Peter used the keys of the gospels to open it to jews, samaritans and gentiles as recorded in Acts.
Peter had no special office in the church but always referred to himself as a fellow brother.
>and by 300 AD it was the only church that mattered
you had bishops in alexandria, antioch and many places over. it wasnt until the donation of constantine that the roman bishop was given the title of roman emperor (of the western empire). a political office, not a church office. thats why he is called the pontifex maximus.
>There werent even churches IN germany before the Catholic Church was dominant.
what an absolute bs. do you think a church is only a thing if there is a church building like a cathedral or what?
>The force that ultimately removed churches from state power was definitely the Catholics lol. Wut?
the church was never to be involved in state power. is that your brain on catholocism where you NEED a god king on earth to rule other than God Jesus Christ in heaven ruling over the earth?
>he hasnt completely folded on Fags and Abortions like every prottie church on earth.
again, you need to shove heretics into the protestant drawer. youre so disingenuous.
but what do you expect from people that rely on the roman interpretation of scripture than reading it yourself.
did Jesus and the apostles foretell us that many false teachers and other gospels and doctrines will try to infiltrate the christian movement? yes or no?
thats why you need to be in the scriptures yourself to sniff them out and expose them.
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>>532227595
Oh yeah how could I forget Peter didnt go to rome. Us Catholics always getting rome confused with Constantinople. You know, the city that was the capital of exactly dick in 60 AD.
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>>532225144
>but there needs to be some level of accountability and a relationship between Protestants and the Catholic church
yes, keep as far away from them as possible. we are officially still declared heretics, the council of Trent was never revoked.
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>>532227874
>. It was Christianity that pioneered the conception of the secular world from the heavenly affairs
Protestants. Catholics never wanted that.

The Catholic church was literally crowning kings until the 19th Century
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PRAISE KEK
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>>532223549
St. Bartholomew's Day was the best party ever.
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>>532228122
I can assure the separation was done way earlier and everything was fine and dandy. The term "Separation of church and state' is bastardized compared to when it was first conceived. There's a reason why we have a separate government from the church and it's not the church itself that runs society and is the government. It has been that way for centuries.
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>>532225649
Americans worship them. Have you not noticed?
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>>532227933
>Peter had no special office
Upon this rock i shall build my church anon. That sola scriptura goes out the window quick huh

>wasnt until the donation of constantine that the roman bishop was given the title
Ya. That was ~300 AD. There were no local churches in germany at that time.

The christianization of germany comes after that, or at the very least, had basically just started.

>the church was never to be involved in state power
Where does it say that in the bible? If christians are supposed to convert the world, and all nations are supposed to bow under Christ, some state power is going to be involved.

>thats why you need to be in the scriptures yourself to sniff them out and expose them.
I have? The two conventions Luther was correct about was indulgences and the translation of the bible. Ripping the church in half in the process is where he was wrong.
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>>532223694
Greta????
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>>532228507
>I can assure the separation was done way earlier and everything was fine and dandy.
Tell me when and where.

>There's a reason why we have a separate government from the church
A combination of the American revolution and the enlightenment.
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>>532225165
Good post
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>>532228122
>The Catholic church was literally crowning kings until the 19th Century
and those kings had to do what the pope told them to. rome was running an empire. what do you think the last empire in Daniel is that gave us a prophecy of Iron mixed with clay that will be broken by the coming of Jesus?
the Roman Empire after it was shattered ruling with the secular clay.
do you not realize that you are pledging allegiance to the empire that is against Jesus Christ?

Daniel 7
23 “Thus he said: ‘As for the fourth beast,

there shall be a fourth kingdom on earth,
which shall be different from all the kingdoms,
and it shall devour the whole earth,
and trample it down, and break it to pieces.
24 As for the ten horns,
out of this kingdom ten kings shall arise,
and another shall arise after them;
he shall be different from the former ones,
and shall put down three kings.
25 He shall speak words against the Most High,
and shall wear out the saints of the Most High,
and shall think to change the times and the law;
and they shall be given into his hand
for a time, times, and half a time.
26 But the court shall sit in judgment,
and his dominion shall be taken away,
to be consumed and destroyed to the end.
27 And the kingdom and the dominion
and the greatness of the kingdoms under the whole heaven
shall be given to the people of the saints of the Most High;
his kingdom shall be an everlasting kingdom,
and all dominions shall serve and obey him.’[c]
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>>532228010
Pepin deposed the canonical Roman bishop and installed his own puppet heretical bishop. Roman "Catholics" were the first Protestants. (And the mechanism was also the same - secular fucktard princes installing a "national" controlled heretical church.)
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>>532225894
King James Bible is the most Jewish of the Christian Bibles. They returned to the fake Hebraic/Arameic origin and put talmudic modern shit inside. Well-poisoning the texts to help Rabbis discard the lineage of Jesus in debate with protestants. Purpose was the actual evangelist golems.
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>>532223806
good morning sarrrrr
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>>532223663
Everywhere protestants touch becomes a third world shithole. Name 1 protestant country that isn't a depressing shithole, I will wait
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>>532223879
post horns kike
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>>532228620
>Upon this rock i shall build my church anon.
do you think Jesus is speaking about a roman institution? are you insane?
>There were no local churches in germany at that time.
what does any of that to do with germany? do you know how many germans died at the hand of rome?
>Where does it say that in the bible?
1 Timothy 2
2 First of all, then, I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all people, 2 for kings and all who are in high positions, that we may lead a peaceful and quiet life, godly and dignified in every way. 3 This is good, and it is pleasing in the sight of God our Savior, 4 who desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.

Romans 13
13 Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, 4 for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience. 6 For because of this you also pay taxes, for the authorities are ministers of God, attending to this very thing. 7 Pay to all what is owed to them: taxes to whom taxes are owed, revenue to whom revenue is owed, respect to whom respect is owed, honor to whom honor is owed.

cont
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>>532228620
>Ripping the church in half in the process is where he was wrong.
it was the CATHOLIC church that ripped it apart. Luther wanted to REFORM the catholic church. it was the catholic church that rejected this reformation of its heretical teachings that ultimately forced Protestants to form their own Churches.
do you understand that?
you can only have one master, Jesus Christ or the pope. chose wisely.
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>>532229163
>Name 1 protestant country that isn't a depressing shithole
all western secular nations? europe, the USA, australia?
all are protestant.
what does the roman church have to offer? communist south america.
thats what the roman catholic church wants for you. to rule over you with an iron fist and you living in poverty and slavery to it.
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>>532223806

Christianity is heresy and a pipeline to kosher conservatism. Catholicism is faith undiluted. If you want MIGA than stay Christian.

Lmao
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>>532228715
Why would a Pope elect a king? Why not rule by himself?
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>>532227140
Kek
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>>532225031
IT'S true though.
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>>532223549
protestants have always been useful idiots of jews
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>>532229163
>Everywhere protestants touch becomes a third world shithole
reminder that south america became a war zone after the masons and protestants funded their civil wars. here in mexico they were all ritual posting in letters about how the church has to go because the church gets in the way of progress and freedom, and how it ruled people like a tyrant and shiet. yet it was the church that built mexico while spain was messing around
a decade after ww1, the masons genocided the catholics and native americans and stole their land for the same reasons as before. this is known as cristero war
evangelicals, protestants, atheists and masons are nothing more than cryptojews.
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>>532227930
Dude, everybody who learned Latin could read the Bible.
Saying Protestantism happened because they wanted the common people to read the Bible is beyond retarded.
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>>532230557
freemasons are ruled by the jesuits who work for the vatican.
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>>532230604
>Dude, everybody who learned Latin could read the Bible.
and anyone who preached the bible outside of the catholic approved narrative was declared a heretic and slaughtered.
the waldensians is the most famous instance.
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>>532228913
>If you are for the Christian Empire
>then you are against Christ
>t. Holly Roman Empire subject

Are you serious?
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>>532229555
>Protestantism is secularism
>Catholicism is communism

This jew is not even trying...
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>>532230604
>Dude, everybody who learned Latin could read the Bible.
>Saying Protestantism happened because they wanted the common people to read the Bible is beyond retarded
indeed. it was nothing more than a gamble. printing became mainstream so they flooded the market with their shit
it's similar to today's ai development: ai becomes mainstream so bad actors flood the market with their shit
a gamble to wrestle control of the old guard
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>>532228913
I like you anon. My father was Lutheran from thoroughly german stock. My disagreements with you are practical and not doctrinal. Factionalism has hurt us, and completely hamstrung our ability to protect our values in our nation's.
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>>532230765
>and anyone who preached the bible outside of the catholic approved narrative was declared a heretic and slaughtered.

Exactly. Although not always slaughtered.
It's called defending the Truth. You prottie fags should try it once.
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>>532230002
Because different nations of people have different interests and needs.
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>>532230891
>control of the old guard
control from the old guard
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>>532230797
the Kingdom of Jesus is not of the world.
whoever loves the world has not the love of the Father in him.
we are looking forward to things to come, not to transform the world into a christian kingdom.
the world hated Jesus first, if you are of Jesus it will hate you too.
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>>532230891
I am of the opinion that Martin Luther was actually a Traditionalist Catholic.
He was on the right, in the beginning.
Eventually, his take was co-opted by Northern German princes for selfish aggrandizing purposes and Martin Luther was in too deep and wanted by the Catholic power structure so he bow downed to the princes.

You can call them jews if you wanted, because eventually Protestantism became exactly that: A tool of the jews to destroy Europe and Christianity.

But then again I might be wrong...
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>>532230868
the jesuits invented communism. what are you on about?
the whole catholic narrative is that the pope is the god of this world and everything is subject to him, all you own, all your money all your property. it belongs to the pope, he only "grants" it to you. absolutely heretical.
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>>532230673
>freemasons are ruled by the jesu
this is just a ritual post; almost a non-sequitur. you just ignored everything i posted
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Should I go to Mass on Sunday? I haven't gone to a confessional in 3 years and I've been living a life that's hardly Christian by any metric.
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>>532230988
>we are looking forward to things to come, not to transform the world into a christian kingdom.

That is gay prottie tardism.
We are in the world and to some extent we are indeed of the world. This is the world of God. We are in it to act according to God's will. And we have the absolute right - no, actually we have it as a right and a duty! - to make our world Christian.
To punish evil and to reward goodness.

You are just offering the world to the jews otherwise, like Prottie tards so often do.
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>>532230894
>Factionalism has hurt us, and completely hamstrung our ability to protect our values in our nation's.
anon, have you ever come to think that all this lunacy that is going on is because of Gods judgement on his lukewarm churches and believers?
we are in the last Church age of Laodicea, all the comforts in the world, but never taking God as a priority. this is the judgment for that.
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>>532231092
>the jesuits invented communism

Yeah, sure... again: You're not even trying.
What are you doing rabbi?

>>532231092
>the whole catholic narrative is that the pope is the god of this world

Please tell me why should I continue answering to your bullshit?
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>>532229253
>do you think Jesus is speaking about a roman institution? are you insane?
He was talking about the church Peter founded. St. Peters.

>what does any of that to do with germany?
You were talking about local churches and you're german.

>do you know how many Germans the Romans killed?

Got them back in the end though didnt we?

In the passages you posted, nothing suggests the church should have no authority. Infact, if the church has authority then by your second passage, that has been placed upon it by god.

>>532229393
>it was the CATHOLIC church that ripped it apart. Luther wanted to REFORM the catholic church

I dont disagree with the points that Luther made, and those points eventually won out in the Catholic church. There are no more indulgences and its no longer frowned upon by the catholic church to translate the bible.

However, Catholics didnt break into a million factions.
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>>532231251
>no, actually we have it as a right and a duty! - to make our world Christian.
no, we are to make disciples and spread the Word that this world will face the judgement of Fire.
this "we are to rule the world for God" is total unbiblical papal nonsense. we are in the world, but not off the world. we are to have ZERO stake in any worldly things. our focus is on God and doing his Will, which you do not even know what it is until he tells you your appointed task.
>To punish evil and to reward goodness.
God does that.
>You are just offering the world to the jews otherwise, like Prottie tards so often do.
the jews are a owned entity. the Rothschilds claim ownership over Israel and the jews, the same Rothschilds that run the vatican bank.
how out of touch are you?
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>>532227930
>Guess who didn't want the normal people to know what's REALLY written in Bible.
Satan?
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>>532231342
>Yeah, sure... again: You're not even trying.
you arent even looking into it. I wonder where you have placed your chips...
>Please tell me why should I continue answering to your bullshit?
he never refuted his title of Vicarious Filii Dei or the title of the Roman Emperor Pontifex Maximus. look up his twitter handle.

ignorance is a choice that has grave consequences.
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>>532231267
>Gods judgement on his lukewarm churches and believers?
Without question. Deuteronomy 28.

I think protestantism helped lead to this through the enlightenment. The enlightenment created liberalism, and that is what we worship now. Our own autonomy. Removing the authority the church had helped cause this.
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>>532230604
Fucking NIGGER. only a FEW of the clericals could read Latin. Dumb nigger. It was like (as example) 220 in now Germany. Are you stupid? Retarded? Who told you how to find 4chan?
You know "latin" is NOT the today latin but the now "dead language"? Ever heard Plutarch? Fuck... You retarded nigger. LATIN, real Latin, is what the Bible (next to Hebrew) was "in a few little books" was written in. Only a few could read it. It's not your Chica Latina bambina Negro regardina language I talk about. Fucking retard.
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>>532231088
>Traditionalist Catholic
there is no such a thing as traditionalist catholic. the church was always reactionary
the bible? not a thing until marcion came up with the idea of the new testament... after realizing the god of the old testament had nothing to do with the god of jesus and thus discarding the old testament (a clear no no for the prostestants)
from a theological pov the church doesn't even need most of the OT, Jesus is a priest of the order of Melchizedek and that guy predates abraham. calling christianity "abrahamic" is insulting
time proved marcion right, but neither the church nor any of the christian sects are ready for that discussion
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>>532231555
>no, we are to make disciples and spread the Word that this world will face the judgement of Fire.

You have a very deturped vision of Christianism.
To be Christian is to believe in Jesus, not in your gay end times cult.

Of course we are to run the world for God.
Not directly.
We are for God.
And we are to run the world.
Because otherwise would be to give power to those that are not for God.

It's funny to realise how much non Christian and anti Catholic (so many) Protties really are. They are not in rebellion against this or that Papal direction, they are in rebellion agains Jesus Himself and truly want to replace Christianity with their jewish supremacist cults.

>we are to have ZERO stake in any worldly things

Then why do you eat?
Why do you shit?
Why do you breathe?
Why do you fuck girls and have children?
How can you have children and say / teach exactly that?

Anon, that is true (and even then just sort of) for monks and clergy. To be a Christian is not to be a super into the depths of religion theologian or something.
To be a Christian is believing in Jesus and try to make the world a better place - as in more Christian.
Of course we are objectively of the world.
And God made us like this.
And Jesus did not revolt against this (the woman who gives him perfume / lotion instead of giving to the poor, the parable of the men who invest, etc.).

>God punishes evil and rewards goodness

Yeah, perhaps, in the next life. But in this He does that mostly through us: his servents, the True Christians.

>The Rothschilds run the Vatican Bank

I find that hard to believe. Any info?
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>>532230765
>>532230891
Latin is not the the Latin you poor niggers think it it's. Its the pre language to the ancient romans you fucking idiots. It's the name that confuses you. Latin (Latain) is Roman. But good all now know you are like third world and never visited a school. Dumb niggers.
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>>532223549
don't care
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>>532231671
>he never refuted his title of Vicarious Filii Dei or the title of the Roman Emperor Pontifex Maximus. look up his twitter handle.

What!?
Explain yourself please.
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>>532231489
>He was talking about the church Peter founded. St. Peters.
what about the all the other Churches in Alexandria, Antioch etc? are they invalid because "Peter didnt found them"?
your narrative falls apart.
>You were talking about local churches and you're german.
cant remember I have. all german churches are dead thanks to ecumenism. can sup with the devil and not have him drag you down.
>Got them back in the end though didnt we?
is this some gotcha game for you?
I wouldnt gamble with my soul if I were you.
>Infact, if the church has authority then by your second passage, that has been placed upon it by god.
what if that Church doesnt follow the doctrines of the bible but abuses them?
what if that ruler of the Church commits blasphemies against the most High God?
now you have a false Church rule over you. what do you think that implies for true believers of Jesus Christ that are not part of the political institution?
well, I only have to look at the german history to know what follows.
a rabid wolf tearing the land and people to pieces.
you know the christian migration to the US was because of roman catholic persecutions right? same in south africa btw. you see how rome has treated them.
>There are no more indulgences and its no longer frowned upon by the catholic church to translate the bible.
there are still indulgences, its just more "hidden". also the indulgences were not the only point Luther addresses.
just because satan is laying low doesnt mean his agents arent hard at work.
>However, Catholics didnt break into a million factions.
but they doubled down and went full apostasy with their false teachings and doctrines.
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>>532232173
>To be Christian is to believe in Jesus, not in your gay end times cult.
wait until you find out what jewsus said about the end times to his cultists
funnier still is the timeline he gave
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>>532225165
>It's also the origin of willfully ignorant bullshit like creationism
I always find it funny that people like Origen can argue in the 3rd century that the Biblical creation story is at best metaphorical but here in the 21st droves of subhumans are actively insisting it literally happened.
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>>532223646
Bar after bar
Give her the emmy already
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>>532230604
>Dude, everybody who learned Latin
Only clerical learned. It was even ancient when the Romans spoke it. Normal people didn't spoke it. And for sure didn't learned a language that an even back the ancient civilisation spoke. Fucking nigger.
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>>532223549
Grifters are not radical enough.
Clowns are not radical enough.

How does pol radicalize people? By calling them grifters. By criticizing clown world.

Either criticism of belief causes a radicalization purity spiral. It works, it's technical, it's systematic, it's evil.
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>>532231489
>I dont disagree with the points that Luther made, and those points eventually won out in the Catholic church. There are no more indulgences and its no longer frowned upon by the catholic church to translate the bible.
i disagree with this. the idea of taking any text as the ultimate authority over traditions is outright stupid. nobody in ancient times thought like this. everything was oral traditions, even the ancient greeks realized that, that depending entirely on texts makes you stupid (and we are living the second coming of this. just watch how the dependence on smartphones have made kids more stupid)
it doesn't help that we can now see the development of these texts. the texts luther saw were butchered already, translations only butchered them further
the church cannot escape this or else they risk getting bombed by the us and israel
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>>532231489
Peter didn't found shit. He was a coward who never went to Rome. Paul did and Paul's church is quintessentially "Protestant"
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>>532229163
You really won't have to.
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>>532232173
>To be Christian is to believe in Jesus, not in your gay end times cult.
so Revelation is gay now? huh, looking forward how you explain that to Jesus.
>Because otherwise would be to give power to those that are not for God.
thats what the world is and always was. the faithful people of God having a real world empire stopped with the destruction of Israel and the Temple.
a Christian Institution running the world is just not a thing or what the bible teaches.
>they are in rebellion agains Jesus Himself
the pope is in rebellion against Jesus. thats why he changed the law (10 commandments are different) and times.
>To be a Christian is believing in Jesus and try to make the world a better place - as in more Christian.
what is "Christian" to you? the roman catholic version of it where the world is ultimately ruled by the pope alone as god king?
because that is what you are advocating. not what God says but what the pope says.
>But in this He does that mostly through us: his servents, the True Christians.
so you reject the sovereign omnipotence of God and say we have to do it because he cant?
anon, thats utterly insane and not biblical.
>I find that hard to believe. Any info?
anon, all it takes is to google "offical document rothschild vatican bank".
do the reseach yourself, anything I give you you can refute as "prottie propaganda".
I tried to post evidence to roman catholics before and they never accept it. research it yourself.
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>>532232234
this seething really came out of nowhere
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>>532232262
what do I have to explain myself? tell the pope to explain himself.

I give you a hint tho, anti can both mean against and in place of.
so if a person calls himself "the man in place of Jesus Christ" that is anti christ. now ask yourself what vicar means.
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>>532231092
>the jesuits invented communism
Holy shit go back to your Proddie kraut church and watch a gay wedding you fucking retarded faggot. Go kiss the husbands while you’re at it.
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>>532232839
>he changed the law (10 commandme—
christians do not have to care about any abrahamic law
jesus is from the priesthood of melchizedek. if the ot laws are invoked, it is because they're feeling particularly nice to the retards that still worship that shit
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>>532233109
do you think the rise of communism in czarist russia where the czar is head over the orthodox church happened for no reason other than it just did?
and the persecution, decline and destruction of said orthodox church wasnt by design?
gee, I wonder which other church could use its agents to undermine said empire and church.
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>>532232411
Everyboydy who was something learned Latin up to the early XIX century, anon.
The idea of the Bible being available only in Latin and it being the language of the Holly See was exactly for as many people to understand it as possible, as the civilised world's lingua franca.
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>>532232263
>you know the christian migration to the US was because of roman catholic persecutions right? same in south africa btw. you see how rome has treated them.
The first religious colonists in what would become the united states were fleeing ANGLICAN persecution. Holy shit you are an ignorant fuck, for all the waffling you’re doing you actually have zero factual knowledge.
How would Jesus feel about you just lying and making shit up?
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>>532233301
>christians do not have to care about any abrahamic law
that not the abrahamic law, its Gods commandments.
the ceremonial law is not in place anymore, the moral law is.
Jesus told us to keep his commandments.
if you change the commandments you elevate yourself above God.
over and over again Revelation talks about those who are in the book of Life that keep the Commandments of God.
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>>532233389
XDD
You’re going to hell for making up lies and sewing division. Say hi to Martin Luther for me while you’re down there.
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>>532224036
Migger doesn't realize yet 4chan is being taken back from their faggoting failed movement
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>>532233542
>The first religious colonists in what would become the united states were fleeing ANGLICAN persecution.
the puritans and brownists where not catholics my man.
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>>532232839
Revelations is not the central focus of Christ's mensage.
Nor of the Christian faith.
That you (and so many judeo-protties) grab whatever part of the Bible pleases them the most and start to deturp the Word of Christ is proof of your satanic alliegence.

The faithful people of God having a real world empire stopped only with the Soviet Union and American Empires taking precdence in the world stage in 1945.
Believe it or not.

The Pope changed the ten commandements? What are you talking about?
And if the Pope is in rebellion against Jesus it's only via Judeo-American (some might say Protestant) influence.

The world is not ruled by the Pope. But yes, in Christian morality the Pope has precedence. Obviously.

We are called to save God.
It's not that God does not want to mend the world. It is simply that he wants us to mend the world for Him.
Obviously.
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>>532233629
>You’re going to hell for making up lies and sewing division.
Matthew 10
34 “Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword.

sorry, but if you want a quiet and convenient life and roman catholic world empire under the pope I think it will be you who will have a hard day at the second coming.
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>>532233941
That does not mean you get to sow division and make up lies.

It means that we are right to use violence against those that sow division and make up lies.
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>>532232343
>people like Origen can argue in the 3rd century that the Biblical creation story is at best metaphorical
It becomes obvious to anyone that even tries to apply literary analysis. Who was around to measure five of the six days of creation? How could there be a "day" before the creation of the firmament? If Adam, Eve, Cain, and Abel were the only humans alive then who was Cain afraid of being killed by?

It's just a story conjured up by the most creative of bronze age savages to placate the subhuman troglodytes that pestered him with inane questions. Even if there were some truth to it there is no possible way that such savages could comprehend the idea of advanced physics, stellar chemistry, or the concept the universe formed over the course of billions of years. Fuck they didn't even have a concept of the number "one billion." Yet, as you say, we have droves of people that look at a story in a book full of parables that has been curated, translated, re-translated, then curated again and say "YEP THIS IS OBJECTIVE FACT!" Baffling
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>>532233804
They were Puritan Calvinists/congregationalists that were fleeing the Church of England.
Which is actually a great example of the madness Protestantism induces. It creates an endless purity spiral sewing doctrinal division as every random preacher decides he suddenly has the one true correct interpretation of Christianity 1500, 1600, 1800 years after Christa’s death and, wouldn’t you know it, that particular interpretation is the only one that will get you to heaven and everyone else is going to hell.
You decry the Pope for taking the place of God (he doesn’t) but every fucking Protestant retard is his own Pope and by extension his own God.
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>>532224165
Fucking Jewish ADL meme from Hell. Christianity is literally the apostolic religion of the Jews of the bible, who became Christians, leaving behind Synagogue of Satan. There are literally no Semitic Jews in modern Israel, but there are a fuckload of Semitic Christians being bombed and massacred in Palestine, Lebanon, and Iraq. Implying the word Jew in a 2000 year old bible means anything close to modern Talmudic Judaism is exactly what the worshipers of Satan want stupid shabbos goy to think. Look at the slide threads on this website, and conclude that literally everything stated about Christianity is the opposite, and you will be closer to the truth than if you swallow this Christcuck shit hook line and sinker.

Kikes STOLE the words, "Jew", "Israel" and, "Zion" from the Semites. The Hebrew language isn't even theirs. Real racists know these things.
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>>532233941
so is you quoting the bible supposed to make up for breaking the 8th commandment?
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>>532234132
>we wuz da real jews
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>>532233562
>that not the abrahamic law, its Gods com—
listen to this guy. he thinks laws given (exodus didn't even happen) exclusively to 12 tribes are universal laws
dude, melchizedek was given laws by god before this, that's why he is a priest that abraham paid tribute to
it's all regional laws at the end of the day
your attempt at playing semantics is hilarious. you picked a bad game, silly kid
you see Melchizedek is a priest of El Elyon, we know through texts that YHWH is the Son of El Elyon. we know through texts that the world was divided and each dividion was given to an Elohim; YHWH was the Elohim of Israel. therefore the yhwh laws are still abrahamic laws meaning people that worship the universal father do not have the need to follow regional laws (they don't have the need to follow most of the so called bible as well), they will follow universal laws instead
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>>532233910
>Revelations is not the central focus of Christ's mensage.
yes it is? because it promises Jesus return and a new heaven and earth?
how can you put up with this dying and corrupt world full of death and decay?
do you like this world?
>Bible pleases them the most and start to deturp the Word of Christ is proof of your satanic alliegence
its not me that is in the harlot Babylon who roots for the man of sin you know.
>The faithful people of God having a real world empire stopped only with the Soviet Union and American Empires taking precdence in the world stage in 1945.
the people of God never had a real world empire after Jesus Christ.
>The Pope changed the ten commandements? What are you talking about?
they moved from the Sabbath day to the Lords day which is the first day instead of the seventh day and removed the prohibition of having idols completely.
>And if the Pope is in rebellion against Jesus it's only via Judeo-American (some might say Protestant) influence.
oh now you claim its the protestants fault for the pope being heretical. oh wow, didnt see that one coming.
> But yes, in Christian morality the Pope has precedence.
so the pope, not God? see where your brainwashing leads you to?
you make man your authority instead of God.
>We are called to save God.
what is this babble? how are we to save God? this is utter insanity.
God SAVES us out of this world.
>It is simply that he wants us to mend the world for Him.
no, the world his headed for judgement, we are set apart from the world to God, not to mend or rule the world.
the world is done for, its finished, its going to be judged by fire. it is you who needs to come out of the world to not be judged with it.
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>>532234042
>That does not mean you get to sow division and make up lies.
false, we are to love and speak the Truth because Jesus Christ is the Truth and the vatian and pope are the enemies of Christ.
>It means that we are right to use violence against those that sow division and make up lies.
again, catholic talking point. its always kill to get your way and always was like that. utterly unchristian.
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>>532223549
protestants were the first libtards
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>>532234107
you know the Harlot Babylon has daughter harlots right?
protestantism is a daughter of the roman catholic church who calls herself the mother church for a reason.
its not about making your own church or movement, but to come back to the pure Word of God.
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>>532223549
Zionism isn't Protestantism.
So the plan was to open a "Protestant" Zionist cult, and then expose their obvious lies and smear ALL OF PROTESTANT CHRISTIANITY with that? Is that your whore mother's masterplan? is that how you people think you can defeat the word of God? and deceive people back into your harlot church of Rome? It was Rome who invented all of these false doctrines. Why do you think none of those "Protestants" ever state that the Roman Church is MYSTERY, BABYLON, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

True Christians will tell you that, true Protestant Christians after the Spirit of the Reformation by God. We constantly tell people that Zionism is a false prophecy, and the Judaism is the synagogue of Satan.
Everyone seem to think the deceiver and liars in this world stays put in the Roman church for the last 500 years. When the scirptures were opened to the public, of course the deception and counter-reformation started by Rome and her Jesuit agents immediately. Zionism, Scofiled Bible, and all the rest of modern churchianity is the result of that. Not one will state that Rome is that harlot church, and that the pope is the son of perdition, not one of those "Protestant" Zionists. Not one of them will state that Judaism is a blasphemous antichristian synagogue of Satan. Why? Because they are COMPLICIT. The Mother of Harlots of course has her harlot daughter-institutions.

But at least you admit that Rome murdered Christians, because they dared to read and translate the Bible. Usually Romans deny this fact of history. Pagan Rome murdered millions of Christians, but Papal Rome murdered tens of millions of Christians.
>Revelation 18:24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.
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>>532234107
>implying catholicucks aren't prone to division and schisms
Delusional to the point of being sad

Thank god for martin luther, for breaking the chains of the roman tyranny and for liberating human reason from cucktholic superstition
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>>532234472
You. Lied. Liars go to Hell. Or is Hell something Catholics made up to scare the “true churches” that sprang into existence a millennia and a half after Christ’s death?
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>>532234171
why?
just because you are not educated on the subject doesnt mean I am wrong. it just means you are willfully ignorant.
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>THE MOUTH-BREATHER, MESSIANIC MUTT WILL WORSHIP THEIR FALSE GOD

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>THE MOUTH-BREATHER, MESSIANIC MUTT WILL WORSHIP THEIR FALSE GOD

THE MOUTH-BREATHER, MESSIANIC MUTT WILL WORSHIP THEIR FALSE GOD
>THE MOUTH-BREATHER, MESSIANIC MUTT WILL WORSHIP THEIR FALSE GOD
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>>532223549
Isn't this straight up heresy?
kek, maga has become the death cult we all called it for years
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>>532234338
He is still right: Using the word "jew" to describe both the ancient Hebrews from Judea by the time of Christ or earlier still and the fucking Talmudist creeps we have today is like using the world Brazilian to describe a white man and a nigger and all the hellish mutts in betweeen.
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>>532234576
Hey, pop quiz, which one of these things did Jesus leave us with?
A)The Bible
or
B) The Church?
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>>532234094
>If Adam, Eve, Cain, and Abel were the only humans alive then who was Cain afraid of being killed by?
considering the later text explaining that yhwh was only given a piece of land by el elyon, you can argue that the garden of eden was nothing more of an experiment conducted by yhwh
this then helps reconciled the fact that yhwh-genesis (he only made adam, then made eve out of adam) is different from elohim-genesis (seven days, he made humans and humans were male and female)
in other words adam, even, cain and abel were yhwh's humans but the other elohim had their own humans too
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>>532234366
>he thinks laws given (exodus didn't even happen) exclusively to 12 tribes are universal laws
so its ok for me to fuck your wife and steal your tv?
how about you give me your house and you fuck off?
there are no laws right. I might just kill you if you dont give into my demands at that point. all is good to go.

see why the 10 commandmets are needed?
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>>532234618
no I did not lie. you being uneducated on the matter doesnt make me a liar.
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>>532234631
You said that Jesuits and Catholics are responsible for the Russian Revolution.
Meanwhile we know exactly who was responsible for the Russian Revolution, because they were actually there. It was atheist Eastern European Jews.
So you have stated a falsehood. You are a liar and you are going to Hell.
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>>532234810
>you’re uneducated on the history I am making up
You are a liar and you are going to Hell.
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>>532223549
Edomite kikes always appeal to Catholics and Catholicism because they know Catholicism is Jewish controlled and Satanic. Your pope has fucking nigger blood your pope, your king is a mamzer, a mongrel!
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>>532234714
the bible, the church are people that abide by the bible.
the bible is the Word of God, the Word was with God, the Word was God and the Word became flesh.
read John 1.

>>532234832
>You said that Jesuits and Catholics are responsible for the Russian Revolution.
they are. also responsible for the assassination of Franz Ferdinand. see how it all fits together to get the will of Rome done?
>because they were actually there. It was atheist Eastern European Jews.
which are Kabbalists and Freemasons, which are ruled by Jesuit cryptojews.
>So you have stated a falsehood. You are a liar and you are going to Hell.
nah, you are just unwilling to add 1 and 1 together.
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>>532232173
>You have a very deturped vision of Christianism.
>To be Christian is to believe in Jesus, not in your gay end times cult.
Again cucktholic delusion

If you are allowed to read the new testament, notice that it is TEEMING with eschatological sentiment. All the apostles were expecting an imminent return of Christ in judgment, Paul thought he'd experience it within his lifetime, Jesus predicted his own return within a human lifetime, Peter had to defend the eschatological message against naysayers in his letters. Christianity *IS* eschatology.
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>>532234933
Follow Odin and go suck cum out of dead men
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>>532234888
>You are a liar and you are going to Hell.
hey bro, I know I dont go to hell so your satanic fear mongering doesnt work on me.
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>>532223549
>MAYBE CATHOLICS WERE RIGHT TO BURN PROTESTANTS

Fuck off the Pope is a commie globo homo faggot and so was the last one. They spend all their time trying to import their third world trash in to leach off the developed world.
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>>532234994
>schizobabble conspiritard nonsense
I hope you’re just retarded, because you will go to Hell for consciously spreading lies.
You’re probably going to Hell regardless but whatever.
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>>532235030
You are wrong and you are going to Hell. You think you are your own Pope and your own God.
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>>532234745
>so its ok for me to fuck your wife and steal your tv?
anon here thinks there is no morality without the laws given exclusively to some 12 tribes. lmao.
let's not discuss how melchizedek's laws would obviously address that. no, no.
this answer that this german gave is the same answer stupid answer evangelicals give to the stupid atheist

retard, i just explained that yhwh is not the true god. it follows that el elyon, by virtue of being the true universal god, is the source of morality given that any theology that insist that god is the source of morality would obviously accept that el elyon is well the source of morality

come on, even arguing that yhwh's ten commandmengs are just copies of older laws is a piece of cake that doesn't even require the above theological framework
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>>532235096
>n-noo you are schizo
>look at what jesuits said
fucking lmao
I accept your concession.
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>>532235134
go bow to a man and pray to mary heretic.
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>>532224746
Brasil has a huge Evangelical movement. Some of their biggest sportsballers, including their best product this century, are a part of this sect.
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>>532235183
Accept that you are on the road to Hell first and repent to God by joining the ONE, TRUE, CATHOLIC AND APOSTOLIC CHURCH
You realize the points you’re making are literally the same ones that Ziocuck evangelicals here in the states make, right? Why are you going up to bat for Jews this hard by using Jesuits as a scapegoat? Why are you defending Jews this much?
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>>532235178
>good rested on the seventh day because everything was very good
>no no see this is some other guy
fuck off, we are set apart to God by the 4th law that tells us to keep the sabbath. we rest when God rested after creation.
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>>532234404
Revelation isn't where the (central) promess of a return of Christ is made. Revelations is just an akward prophecy regarding the end times. It's not important (theologically) if I like this world or not, what is important is that my mission is to act upon it for God and general well being (especially of Christians).

Rome is obviously not the Great Whore of Babylon.
However, to whom do protties answer to? The whore of Babylon is quite obviously jewery. Always was, always has been.

The people of God have literally been building Empires since Jesus died. And spectacularly so.
Including mine and yours. And the Roman that preceeded us.
But I wonder (((who?))) you are reffering to as people of God... that also speaks volumes for itself.

Sunday is the Day of the Lord.
Stop with your judaising.

Yes, anon, the American Protestants / jews have been working hard on destroying Christianity and the Holly See from within after WWII. What do you think the Vatican II was about?

Of course God is above the Pope. What the fuck, anon!?
The Pope is still a legitimate authority, though, obviously. (Although recently they themselves have been weak on it and on their congruence, I think).

We are not called to "save" God.
We are called to "save" the world for God.
God acts "through" us (too), Christians.

The world might very well be judged by fire but that only happens after the failures of men.
>For our many sins
The fact that you Protties are anxious for the second coming and the end of the world is exactly proof of your lack of faith.

>>532234472
Come on now...
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>>532235220
I will pray to Mary, for the conversion of sinners like you that believe the saints are dead and not alive in heaven.
But leave it to a Proddie to deny resurrection of the dead lmao
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>>532234742
>yhwh-genesis (he only made adam, then made eve out of adam) is different from elohim-genesis (seven days, he made humans and humans were male and female)

Interesting stuff...
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>>532234338
He is right tho.
Jew is something no one called hebrews and they didn't call themselves either until the 17th century when the english translations started adding the word to the bible. In the original bible, they were called yehudis, edomites, hebrews, after the the 4th century, latin translations called them Iudaeus, and only in the 12th century they were named gyw or iewe, which would eventually evolve into jew.
Your quote as well, is a modern translation, and the word jew was not used in the original. The word jew is "modern", used by westerners in translations, not something kikes called themselves in antiquity. They simply adopted and stole the word, just like black people stole nigger.
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>>532235311
jews and jesuits are the same thing, both practice kabbalah. papal rome worships lucifer who is also worshipped by kabbalists.
its all the same thing. come out of babylon.
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>>532235096
It's not just conspiritard nonsense.

It's putting blame on Christians for the deeds of the jews while absoliving the jews.
I am just surprised his flag isn't American (no offence anon, but...)
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>>532223549
LUTHER WAS A KIKE AGENT. The "protestantism" is just a Kike Psyop against christianity, it always was. And the lead enemy entity against the western christianism is the BRITISH CROWN. They spawned ALL of the sects and cults against christianity: mormons, evangelicals, new age, occultism, satanism, anglicans, "new age", and it was also the brits who started that hindu trendy "spiritual movement" as well in the 60s/70s
FUCK ENGLAND, FUCK "PROTESTANTS", FUCK MORMONS, FUCK THE TALMUD.
CHRIST IS KING.
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>>532223663
>Catholics disproportionately killed fellow Christians in their history
The fellow "christians" shouldn't have committed blasphemy.
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>>532234996
Christianity obviously isn't just escathology.

You protties are only half Christians because 95% of your Christianity / faith is based in fear of the end of the world instead of living righteously for righteousness (Christianity's) sake.

That also explains why Norway is so incredibly rich and naturally beautiful but Oslo is so awful and you can't create beauty no matter what.
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>>532235394
>>no no see this is some other guy
you see that if you read it, silly hypocrite
let me help you
>1:1 BERE'SHIT BARA ELOHIM ET HA SHAMAYIM VE ET HA ARETS
בְּרֵאשִׁית בָּרָא אֱלֹהִים אֵת הַשָּׁמַיִם וְאֵת הָאָרֶץ
that's elohim
>2:4 ELEH TOLDOT HA SHAMAYIM VE HA ARETS BE HIBAR'AM BE YOM ASOT YHVH ELOHIM ERETS VE SHAMAYIM
אֵלֶּה תוֹלְדוֹת הַשָּׁמַיִם וְהָאָרֶץ בְּהִבָּרְאָם בְּיוֹם עֲשׂוֹת יְהוָה אֱלֹהִים אֶרֶץ וְשָׁמָיִם
that's Yhvh of the Elohim
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>>532224481
Catholics are against the third temple, unlike Evangelicals
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>>532235395
>Revelations is just an akward prophecy regarding the end times.
its the only book of the bible that says those that read it aloud are blessed.
its not an awkward prophecy in Gods eyes.
>Rome is obviously not the Great Whore of Babylon.
yes it is. Rome is modern day jewry.
>The people of God have literally been building Empires since Jesus died.
no, they were persecuted and killed for the most part.
>Stop with your judaising.
do the 10 commandments of God still stand or does the law of the pope?
>destroying Christianity and the Holly See from within after WWII.
the Vatican persecuted Christianity for its entire history.
>The Pope is still a legitimate authority, though, obviously.
no he is not.
we dont have man as authority, we have Jesus Christ who has been given all authority in heaven and earth. he didnt delegate that to man and never has.
>We are called to "save" the world for God.
the world will be destroyed according to God. why waste your time on something that will perish. store up treasure for you in heaven.
>God acts "through" us (too), Christians.
yes, but its still God that does the doing, not us. all we do will never amount to anything.
>The world might very well be judged by fire but that only happens after the failures of men.
again, why invest in the world then?
>The fact that you Protties are anxious for the second coming and the end of the world is exactly proof of your lack of faith.
why, I have assurance of salvation which neither the roman catholic church or orthodox church can offer. for you its always work work work for the hope it amounts to anything.

>>532235420
at least you are straight forward about your idol worship.
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>>532235749
do you have any idea how many names the God of the bible has?
do you think yourself to be some kind of hebrew scholar with new insights lmao?
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>>532225470
>the jewish creation myth is just the summerian creation myth
Um. Kike-sisters? Explain?
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>>532223694
>introduced the plantations to Ireland, the only majority Catholic part of her kingdoms
>literally almost the entire population of Ireland was Catholic
>plantations were later used to bring in Protestants that fucked over the country for centuries
Ironically she caused more damage to Catholicism than any of the other English monarchs barring Henry VIII.
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>>532223549
burn all christkikes, don't allow them to make distinction between their schizophrenic doctrine. Just burn them
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>>532235749
>>532236038
they are literally separate, in genesis
>7:16 VE HA BA'IM ZACHAR U NEKEVAH MI KOL BASAR BA'U KA ASHER TSIVAH OTO ELOHIM VA YISGOR YHVH BA'ADO
וְהַבָּאִים זָכָר וּנְקֵבָה מִכָּל בָּשָׂר בָּאוּ כַּאֲשֶׁר צִוָּה אֹתוֹ אֱלֹהִים וַיִּסְגֹּר יְהוָה בַּעֲדוֹ
>And they that went in, went in male and female of all flesh, as God had commanded him: and the LORD shut him in.
GOD here is ELOHIM. LORD here is YHWH. the text is actually read:
>And they that went in, went in male and female of all flesh, as Elohim instructed him; and YHVH shut him in
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>>532235395
It’s the only book that opens with a blessing on the one who reads and those who hear and keep it.
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>>532236488
Elohim is plural and refers to the plurality of the Godhead, the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
God is Lord God is Elohim.
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>martin luther king
cheeky catholics, a bit on the 'nose'
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>>532236823
>Elohim is plural and refers to the plurality of the Godhe
fucking exodus (even though it didn't happen) has developed the idea of "elohim of the israel" and "elohim of the egypt". your headcanon has no biblical basis
futhermore amos 4:11 has yhwh himself explaining that it was actually elohim who destroyed sodom and gomorrah
elohim are the sons of the el elyon dispersed across the nations
>God is Lord God is Elohim.
literally refuted by the provided texts
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>>532223646
This but unironically.
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>>532237954
do you think you are clever or what?

Deuteronomy 32
8 When the Most High gave to the nations their inheritance,
when he divided mankind,
he fixed the borders[a] of the peoples
according to the number of the sons of God.[b]
9 But the Lord's portion is his people,
Jacob his allotted heritage.
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>>532223549
>MAYBE CATHOLICS WERE RIGHT TO BURN PROTESTANTS

imagine slaughtering Your Racial Kin to determine what sect of jew worship is victorious
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>>532223549

fuck the shabbos goy nobility & the court jew. fuck yhwh & jesus. fuck torah. fuck jerusalem.

EUROPE IS OUR HOLY LAND!!!
HAIL OUR PEOPLE & GODS!
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>>532228620
He was in Antioch before Rome, and how does Rome take precedence because he was killed there?

Peter never ordered the apostles around in a hierarchy. How could he when they were all on the same page?

Peter is not the first Pope, he is the first Bishop of Rome and even that is generous. There was never meant to be a higher ecclesiastical office higher than Bishop, and the ecclesia was not supposed to meddle in the secular governmental sectors either.
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>>532228913
In popular modern theology, the "Fourth Beast" of Daniel 7:23 is almost always interpreted either as the Roman Empire, or like you're doing here the Roman Church.

However, in modern secular and historical scholarship, the Fourth Beast is absolutely not Rome. It is the Hellenistic (Greek) Empire founded by Alexander the Great, and specifically, the Seleucid Dynasty.
The traditional view assumes the Book of Daniel was written in the 6th Century BCE by a prophet living in exile in Babylon, predicting events hundreds of years in the future. Historical-critical scholars entirely reject this dating. Based on linguistic evidence (the use of Persian and Greek loanwords) and historical inaccuracies about the Babylonian period, the academic consensus is that the Book of Daniel was actually written around 167–164 BCE. This makes Daniel a piece of Pseudepigrapha (a text written by an anonymous author who claims to be a famous figure from the past). The author used a literary device called vaticinium ex eventu ("prophecy after the fact").

If the book was written in the 160s BCE, what was the geopolitical timeline the author was tracing? Scholars map the four beasts like this:
The Lion with Eagle's Wings: The Babylonian Empire (Nebuchadnezzar).
The Bear: The Median Empire (historically, the Medes and Persians merged, but ancient Jewish historiography often wrongly viewed them as two separate, successive world empires).
The Leopard with Four Wings and Four Heads: The Persian Empire (Achaemenid).
The Terrifying Fourth Beast: The Greek Empire (Alexander the Great).

To a Jewish writer living in the 2nd Century BCE, this was the perfect description of Alexander the Great's military campaign. Alexander's empire was "different" because it wasn't just a military conquest; it was a cultural tsunami (Hellenization). The Greeks didn't just want your taxes; they wanted you to speak Greek, build gymnasiums, worship Greek gods, and abandon your ancient laws.
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>>532225649
It's a southern thing.
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>>532228913
The vision continues, saying this beast has ten horns, and then a "Little Horn" pops up, speaking arrogantly, making war against the holy ones, and changing the sacred laws and times (Daniel 7:24-25). In the historical-critical view, this is the entire point of the Book of Daniel. The author is finally talking about his own present day.

The Ten Horns: These represent the lineage of the Hellenistic kings (the Ptolemies and Seleucids) who ruled the divided empire after Alexander's death.
The Little Horn: This is a very specific, historical king named Antiochus IV Epiphanes. In 167 BCE, the Seleucid king Antiochus IV went completely mad with power in Judea. He decided to force the Jews to fully assimilate into Greek culture.
He outlawed the Sabbath.
He made circumcision a crime punishable by death.
He burned copies of the Torah.
The Ultimate Blasphemy: He marched into the Holy Temple in Jerusalem, erected a statue of Zeus Olympus, and sacrificed a pig on the sacred altar of Yahweh. The Book of Daniel calls this the "Abomination of Desolation". This triggered a massive, bloody guerrilla war known as the Maccabean Revolt, where a group of Jewish rebels fought back against the Greek armies.

When we read Daniel 7:23 through the historical lens, it is not a prophecy about the Pope. It is resistance literature. Just as the author of Revelation used the image of a Beast to tell first-century Christians, "Don't worship Nero and Rome," the author of Daniel used the image of a terrifying Iron Beast to tell the second-century BCE Jews, "Don't give in to Antiochus IV and the Greeks. They seem like an unstoppable monster crushing the earth, but God will judge them, and their empire will be given to the 'Son of Man' (the faithful Jewish people)."
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>>532225649
Pentecostals are just like that. Most of them are sub-90 IQ.
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>>532223646
>WAVES RATTLESNAKES
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>>532223549
You're all faggots and your kike rabbi is not god
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>>532232239
Martin Luther was a satanist and in a coven Dr Faust.
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>>532223549
We need to get rid of this suicidal Death Cult with its genocidal End Times prophecies.

The most successful psyop ever , and they’re all cracked in the head . Sadly there’s no mental institution big enough to hold them all.

Keep these people far far away from government.
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>>532224129
Do an infographic where you show all members of congress and then do little red crosses on all of the ones who are dispensationalists. Then do it for the presidents staff. Then do it for media figures on the major news networks. Then do it for all the notable feminist theorists. You know, like the antisemitic versions of these where there are little blue stars on all the politicians and Hollywood power brokers, like Kanye used to meme. I’m sure there are at least 10 dispensationalists in congress, I can name at least 2 myself. There’s got to be 1 or 2 in the staff of one of the last 10 presidents, maybe under Bush, or Carter? It’s definitely them behind the Iran and Iraq wars, not the Neocons or Zionists.
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>>532232839
>so Revelation is gay now? huh, looking forward how you explain that to Jesus.
Revelation, written by a Jewish-Christian named John from the penal island of Patmos (around 90–95 CE, during the reign of Emperor Domitian) is a coded political and spiritual manifesto designed to give courage to early Christians facing intense pressure to conform to the Roman Empire. To understand the book, you must understand its main villain: The Roman Emperor Nero.

To avoid being executed for treason, John could not write, "The Roman Emperor is evil." He had to use apocalyptic codes. The most famous of these is the "Number of the Beast" found in Revelation 13:18: 666. In the ancient world, letters doubled as numbers. The practice of assigning numerical value to a word or name is called Gematria.
The Greek/Hebrew Cipher: If you take Nero's official imperial title in Greek, Neron Kaisar, and transliterate it into the Hebrew alphabet (נרון קסר - NRWN QSR), the numerical values of the letters add up to exactly 666.
The Latin Variant: What if a reader spoke Latin instead of Greek? In Latin, he was known simply as Nero Caesar (dropping the final 'n'). Transliterated into Hebrew (NRW QSR), the math changes. The sum becomes 616. Archaeologists have found ancient fragments of Revelation (such as the famous Papyrus 115) where the number of the Beast is written as 616. Ancient scribes adjusted the number to fit the Latin spelling, proving that the early church knew exactly who the code was pointing to.

While the Roman elite hated Nero, he was wildly popular among the commoners and in the Eastern provinces (like Asia Minor, where the Seven Churches of Revelation were located). A conspiracy theory rapidly spread that Nero had survived his neck wound and fled east across the Euphrates River to the Parthian Empire (Rome's greatest military rival, located in modern-day Iran). The rumor was so strong that within decades at least three imposters (Pseudo-Neros) appeared in the East.
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>>532232839
John takes this widespread political terror, the idea that a tyrannical, Christian-murdering emperor was going to return from the dead with a foreign army, and turns it into a brilliant theological satire, turning the Beast from the Sea (the Roman Empire/Nero) as a satanic knockoff of Jesus Christ.

In Revelation 13, John describes a Beast with seven heads (representing emperors), and notes that "one of its heads seemed to have a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed." This is a direct, mocking reference to Nero’s suicide by the sword and the rumor of his survival.
In Revelation 17, John describes the Beast as the one "who once was, now is not, and yet will come." This is a deliberate, pathetic parody of the holy title given to God and Christ: "Who is, and who was, and who is to come." John is telling his audience: The Roman Empire wants you to believe their emperor can conquer death. Do not be deceived. Nero's "return" is just a cheap imitation of the true resurrection of the Lamb.

If the First Beast is Nero and the Empire, the Second Beast (the Beast of the Earth, or the False Prophet) represents the local elites and priests of the Imperial Cult in Asia Minor. This beast "had two horns like a lamb, but it spoke like a dragon." It looked pious and peaceful (like religion), but its actual message was the demonic oppression of the Roman state. Revelation says this beast performs "miracles," like making statues speak and calling fire from the sky. Historians note that Greek engineers in the first century (like Heron of Alexandria) actually built pneumatic tubes and steam-powered mechanics into pagan temples to make doors open automatically, fire ignite seemingly by magic, and statues "speak" through hidden pipes. John is calling out these priestly parlor tricks.
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>>532232839
What about the "Mark of the Beast"? The ultimate weapon of the Roman state was economic. The "Mark" was not a futuristic barcode; the Greek word is Charagma, which referred to the official imperial wax seal on documents and the emperor's face stamped on Roman coins. In the first century, if a Christian refused to offer a pinch of incense to the Emperor's statue, they were blacklisted from the local trade guilds. Without the charagma (submitting to the cult), you literally could not "buy or sell" in the marketplace.

Finally, John attacks Rome's economic exploitation. Because Rome destroyed Jerusalem in 70 CE, Jewish and Christian writers gave Rome the code name "Babylon" (the empire that destroyed the first temple in 586 BCE). Revelation 17:9 says, "The seven heads are seven hills on which the woman sits." Every person in the ancient world knew Rome was the Urbs Septicollis (the City of Seven Hills). In Revelation 18, John celebrates the upcoming fall of this empire, listing the massive amounts of luxury goods Rome imported to feed its greed: gold, silver, silk, wine, and marble. He ends the cargo list with a chilling indictment of Roman cruelty: "and human beings sold as slaves."

When read through the lens of history, the Revelation is not a terrifying puzzle about the end of the world like most deluded Christian believe. It is a manifesto of hope and resistance. It was written to validate the suffering of first-century Christians facing crushing economic boycotts and the threat of state violence. By unmasking the "divine" Roman Empire as nothing more than a beastly, bloodthirsty counterfeit, John urged his readers to remain faithful to the true King, promising that the empires of oppression will ultimately fall.

In ancient Greek, Apokalypsis does not mean "the end of the world." It literally means "an unveiling" or "an uncovering." * It belongs to a specific genre of ancient Jewish resistance literature written during times of intense persecution.
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well poisoning
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>>532223549
These people need to stop fuckin lyin
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>>532224036
Ever accusation is a confession
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>>532245084
>every*
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>>532232839
If the original meaning was so clearly about first-century Rome, why did the interpretation change? The answer is necessity.

In the 4th century CE, Emperor Constantine legalized Christianity, and it eventually became the official religion of the Roman Empire. Suddenly, the Church had a massive PR problem: How do you read a holy book that explicitly calls the Roman Empire a satanic, bloodthirsty whore (Babylon) when you are now the official religion of that very empire? To solve this, early church fathers, culminating with St. Augustine in his book City of God, shifted the interpretation. Augustine popularized Amillennialism, the idea that Revelation was not a literal condemnation of political events, but a spiritual allegory. This became the standard view of the Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox churches. For them, the Beasts and Babylon do not represent specific Roman emperors or the Roman Empire. They represent the eternal, ongoing spiritual struggle between the "City of Man" (human pride and systemic sin) and the "City of God" (the Church), which ends with Christ's ultimate, timeless triumph.

It is called Dispensational bullshit, invented in the 1830s is not only a fucking sacrilege but a danger. Instead of offering comfort, it conditions believers to live in constant terror of the future, looking for secret signs of the apocalypse in everything. Because Dispensationalists believe a literal battle of Armageddon must happen in the modern Middle East before Jesus returns, many use this theology to push for aggressive, hawkish foreign policies, essentially trying to "force" the end of the world. And like i said it is an insult to our Faith. By forcing Revelation into the 21st century, it disrespects the original first-century Christians who were being thrown to the lions. John wrote the letter to comfort them, not to warn Americans 2,000 years later about fucking Iran.
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>>532231159
yes, anon. I'll be praying for you when I go.
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>>532232839
To finish, reclaiming the historical, anti-imperial interpretation of Revelation is vital.

When we understand that Revelation is a coded takedown of Nero and the Roman propaganda machine, it stops being a horror story about the future and returns to being what it was always meant to be: a subversive masterpiece of hope. It is a timeless reminder that no matter how powerful, wealthy, or terrifying an empire or a dictator becomes, their authority is an illusion. Tyrants fall, empires crumble, and ultimately, justice prevails.

Honestly, there is a reason why we need priesthood. You've too many dumb people interpreting the Bible without the proper knowledge and cultural baggage. The result is the Bible being used and twisted for all kinds of nefarious, and specially sacrilegious purposes.
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>>532245189
making life a better place and not throwing away the Roman baby with the bath water is not a bad thing.

but it is a fact that the people of King Herod have again helped their cousin fucking cousins to invade again in order to reestablish slavery.
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>>532245189
also the parable of the ten virgins
if jesus has not returned, why are you fighting? the real fight hasnt begun, save your strength, save your faith, save the oil in your lamp until it is time to fight and defend
and no one will know when that is
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>>532245354
The contrast between the classical intellectual tradition of the Roman Catholic Church and the modern phenomenon of Biblical literalism is one of the saddest things imaginable. Today, there is a widespread assumption that Christianity has always been at war with science, and that reading the Bible as a literal textbook is the "traditional" way to practice the religion. Historically, the exact opposite is true. Biblical literalism is a remarkably modern invention that would have deeply confused the greatest theologians of the ancient and medieval Church.

For over a thousand years, the Roman Catholic Church was the single greatest patron of the sciences, particularly astronomy. They did not view science as a threat to God; they viewed it as the study of God's mind. Long before modern science existed, St. Augustine of Hippo (the most influential theologian in Western Christianity) wrote a book called The Literal Meaning of Genesis. He explicitly warned Christians not to read the creation story as a literal, scientific account of the universe. He wrote that it is a shameful and dangerous thing for an infidel to hear a Christian talking nonsense about the stars, the earth, or biology based on a literal reading of Scripture, because it makes the religion look foolish and prevents intelligent people from taking the Gospel seriously. This was back in the 4th Century!

The Church essentially built the modern university system. The Jesuits, as much as i dislike them, became the premier astronomers of the world. The Church needed precise astronomy to calculate the date of Easter, which led to Pope Gregory XIII introducing the Gregorian Calendar (the calendar the entire world still uses today). Even into the 20th century, this intellectual tradition survived. The scientist who first proposed the Big Bang Theory in 1927 was not a secular atheist; it was Georges Lemaître, a brilliant physicist and an ordained Catholic priest.
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>>532246423
Nowhere is this genre error more catastrophic, and embarrassing, than in the treatment of the Book of Revelation.

As i mentioned, when John of Patmos wrote Revelation, he was writing in a highly respected, deeply complex ancient genre called Apocalyptic Literature. To the early Christians, reading Revelation was like reading a brilliant piece of underground resistance poetry. It was dangerous, subversive, and intellectually thrilling. Modern literalism stripped all the historical and political genius out of the book. Because literalists refuse to understand ancient symbolism, they are forced to project the book's bizarre imagery into the future. The Mark of the Beast (a critique of first-century Roman guild economics) is absurdly reinterpreted as modern barcodes, or microchips. The terrifying locusts with human faces are interpreted as something as stupid as Apache attack helicopters. No, really. The profound spiritual critique of the Roman Empire has been reduced to a cheap, sci-fi B-movie script about the "Rapture" (a theological concept that wasn't even invented until the 1830s). They took a masterpiece of ancient political resistance and turned it into a paranoid fortune-telling trick.

If you could take a time machine and bring a first-century Christian, or a medieval scholastic like Thomas Aquinas, into a modern fundamentalist megachurch preaching about microchips and the end of the world, they would be absolutely mortified. The early Christians spent their lives in the agoras and academies of the Greco-Roman world, standing toe-to-toe with Stoics and Neoplatonists. They argued using high-level logic, metaphysics, and ethics. They desperately wanted the philosophers to see that it was the culmination of Greek intellectual thought. To see modern Christians rejecting science, ignoring historical context, and reading magnificent apocalyptic poetry as a literal, sci-fi roadmap for the 21st century would feel like a total betrayal of the Logos.
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>>532236488
>YHWH
Kys kike
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amerifagots felt for the protestant meme



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