https://theconversation.com/getting-750-a-month-didnt-end-homelessness-but-our-study-shows-it-still-improved-the-lives-of-homeless-people-278141
>>532236468stop paying the people claiming to fix it but only perpetuate it so they keep their job
>>532236468About a tree fiddy
>>532236468You can't end maintenance problems.
>>532236468Money won't solve the problem. It's a mental thing with many of them.
>>532236468However much it is...Bullets are cheaper.
>>532236714So true. Anyone misses rent, they should be shot. I bet a LOT LESS PEOPLE will be late on rent! Haw haw haw!
>>532236468all the money and it still wouldn't end, it would just keep growing because that's how money works>pay for something>producers manufacture more of that something
Democrats could end it in America forever by simply opening their homes to those people.
>>532236468>>532236554the military need it to make weapons that don't work and to give it to israel.
>>532236468>How much money would it really take to end homelessness?30 cents times number of homeless
>>532236468About the amount being given to the kikes every month.
In the US it’d depend per state. Somewhere expensive could need up to $1700 just to rent a shitshack and keep the lights on. Would probably be better just to cease hostile architecture, and to seize/buy out complexes to turn them into rehab shelters where you get access to food, bed, shower, basic healthcare, and laundry as long as you’re employed or looking for work. Maybe combine it with voc rehab. We’d have the money to do this and more if so much of it wasn’t locked up in shareholder value and hoarded there by the wealthy. Nothing will ever get solved as long as hard work is exploited by those who don’t really work at all.
>>532236468too much. that money could be going to israel
>>532236468Probably about $2,000 a month to cover basic food and rent in a city.
>>532237221They already have that everywhere and nobody uses it because they're all on drugs. In my small town there's a crazy bitch who wanders around speaking in tongues breaking shit broke my buddies windshield and she doesn't even get arrested or have to pay back restitution. It's all on purpose. They've done but you've asked and given these people free hotel rooms at luxury hotels and they just fucking destroy them fucking retard.
750 a month isn't even enough to pay rent and would take months the key to solving homelessness is an overwhelming supply of high density housing that is not treated as a financial investment for private interests, combined with large scale expanstion of mental health facilities and legal infrastructure for involuntary confinement
>>532237398would take months just to save up a deposit*
>>532236468Infinite money couldn't end homelessness. ALL long term homeless people are homeless by choice. Every town in America has dozens of charities and non-profits specifically for the purpose of trying to give food, housing, clean clothes, healthcare, rehab, job training, etc to homeless people. These programs have ridiculously fair rules like "no raping in the shelter" or "don't smoke crack in the halfway house" and homeless people would rather live on the street than follow those rules.Anyone who is temporarily homeless due to bad luck or losing their job will take advantage of those programs and will quickly be back on their feet. Literally all long term homeless are homeless by choice.
>>532237398or maybe just confiscate all real estate
>>532237398The idea is that the homeless would work and make up the difference. In practice, they were always happy to live on the streets.
>>532236960You've never actually dealt with homeless people.
>>532236468$750 is quite a bit in liqour and smokes, if they are doing hard drugs, itll be gone in a weekend, no amount of money will end homelessness because you don't understand the problem, these people live on the street because they have given up, burned every bridge with their family because of addiction and are incapable of managing their own lives, throwing money and even housing won't fix them, only incarceration, followed by structure and mandatory work along with forced abstaination from drugs and alcohol can help them. Anything less will never solve the problem.
>>532237498i cant really agree. if you make housing abundant and available for every functional person to acquire, and involuntarily imprison everyone else in mental health facilities, the homeless problem would be solved over night
>>532236468idk but it shouldnt be the standard for a walmart employee to struggle to raise a child.
>>532237507Why would the government give people homes? >>532237398What does mental health and involuntary confinement have to do with homelessness? You sound like a psychopath. These people aren't lesser than you, they're the same. You just got lucky.
>>532237644The problem is they all fall into that second category and it's not going to happen because muh freedomhttps://manhattan.institute/article/san-franciscos-failed-experiment-of-homeless-hotels-is-a-cautionary-tale
>>532237603I think you could at least build them some cheap housing so they don't have to build a tent city in every city. Even if it turns into an obsolute shithole at least it wont be right downtown.
Wouldn't end homelessness but would save alot of people from it. Should be a baseline as an American citizen. No, instead we send it to fucking Israel.
>>532236468$750 a month won't even get you a crackhouse in death valley.
>>532237569which is why you have a two pronged attack to address homelessness for group 1 you make housing so readily available that there is no excuse for any functional person to be homeless everyone else who is still homeless despite overt accessibility is then involuntarily confined in an asylum indefinitely until they become functional
>>532237759Have you interacted with homeless on the streets? They're fucking crazy as shit. They belong in a psychward or a camp
>>532237759>mental health and involuntary confinement have to do with homelessnesSoon to be provincial government policy in BC canada to deal with our excessive homelessness lmao
>>532236468They already have help in multiple forms. Most people get by without that help. If you still can't make it with the help provided, you probably can't make it with any kind of help. Some people (whether fairly or unfairly) just aren't going to make it no matter what, so "ending homelessness" is an intentionally impossible goal put forth just to siphon more tax dollars into someone's (not homeless) pocket. Just like ending gun violence, ending child hunger, etc... Even if you did end it, eventually space on this earth is going to run out so what are you going to do then? How about "end poor retards fucking like rabbits"? That would go a lot further to solve the world's problems.
>>532237759because the roman empire collapsed and housing was a major contributing factor in its downfall.So addressing housing issues seems to be critical in avoiding a natural end to the cyclical nature of nations.
>>532237786You either lock them up involuntarily or set aside some places were they can sleep in tents away from decent people.
>>532237221>Somewhere expensive could need up to $1700 just to rent a shitshack and keep the lights on.if there were no homeless, then the shitshacks would be desirable places to live
>>532236468idk how about actual affordable homes
No amount will. You could give them a house and food and they'd still being cracked out 24/7
>>532237789They would have to be segregated from the general public in a sort of barracks where they are not free to leave, if you allow them freedom of movement they will continue the behaviors that made them homeless, without that it will be a shithole, it has to be pretty much a loose form of incarceration and non voluntary.
Most homeless are mentally ill and they don't want any solutions.
>>532236468you can absolutely end homelessness for $750 per month per homeless.option 1: live in the dorm (mental hospital) for free. there are many levels of dormatory, the lowest is basically the same as any studio apartment. option 2: forced exile to the wildernessthere you go. homelessness solved overnight.tkd now tkd forever
>>532236468>How much money would it really takeAll of it. There is no limit on the price tag of foolishly helping the hopelessly inadequate.
>>532237843You also need to keep too dysfunctional people out of the first option because they ruin the shelters for others and dissuade some from using resources.
>>532237870>>532237880jew.>>532237939Housing means you build houses, not prisons and labor camps. It doesn't matter, between the FED manipulating the value of money and excessive taxes there will always be a certain percentage of people in poverty. This is intentional. You would have to kill the central bank and the IRS to even begin to tackle homeless.
>>532237759>What does mental health and involuntary confinement have to do with homelessness?it has everything to do with it retard,some people who end up homeless are just down on their luck and no different than you ori, yea, thats why step 1 is to make housing as accessible as possible, so any functional person ho just got unlucky or made a mistake can access itmost people who end up homeless are not just down on their luck though, they are literally schizophrenic or suffer from any number of other psychological disorders or are addicts. these people will not be able to take care of themselves even if you plop a free house right in front of them, which is why they need to be involuntarily confined where they can be be taken care of by others >You sound like a psychopath. no, youre just retarded. the entire point of this approach is that it is based on empathy and sincere good will
>>53223818that's not trueHousing is an issue due to corporations and big business propping up inflated prices in order to secure financial security because houses are now being utilized as assets that appreciate in value and thus a long term investment that can be bought and sold but never properly utilized or else it will depreciate.Don't pretend its the IRS doing that. That's construction companies, manufacturing, procurement, real estate companies, and companies themselves holding onto assets that they cant properly use (homes).More like you need laws preventing everyone but US citizens and only US citizens from buying Homes in the US.
>>532238215>FlagYou're not even a jew.
>>532238424>>532238187
>>532236714>>532236960A huge percentage have drug problems. Many won't accept a place to stay if it requires being drug free. Many won't accept free rehab. I'd say mental illness is a strong #2 reason however if you consider being a drug addict a type of mental illness then mental illness is the number 1 reason of homelessness. The first step of recovery for anyone is admitting they have a problem and some don't believe they have a problem they believe others are the problem
>>532236468Rent + bills + food + bit for emergencies + paid education system and a job agency that helps them find a job they will be able to work long term and then be able to stand on 2 feet...you dont have that in the USA?? This is why Germany is just better.
>>532238187>jewIm not the politician opening these involuntary care facilities and the program is only going to expand from there to deal with BC(specifically hongcouver dtes and surrounding cities) homelessness crisis
>>532236468well there sure as hell no apartments in my area that are less than 750 a month.
>>532238436of course not, making housing accessible and caring for your neighbour are like, the last thing a jew would dream of doing
>>532236468Homeless people choose to be homeless. There are the shelters, the government subsidized housing and other options for the homeless. All of which are rejected by those who prefer to live homeless for their own reasons. People will get mad at you for saying this but it is the truth.
>>532238187You don't get it. You can give them everything and they will burn it down and stab you in return
>>532236468damn his cock is huge!
>>532238566That is all a schizophrenic junkie with an IQ of 85 needs to become a functional citizen.
https://www.weforum.org/stories/2018/02/how-finland-solved-homelessness/
>>532236468noneits a political will thing
>>532238215>they need to be involuntarily confined where they can be be taken care of by othersYou're correct, but the right wing would call this socialism and the left wing will call it fascism.
>>532238821we need to be proactive. start filtering out liabilites at 8 years old so the rest of the population has a chance to thrive. its absurd that we are sending morons to college and wasting unfathomable resources on computimg when we could be sending retards to data processing farms and calling it a career.
>>532236468Isn't the average rent like double that for a tiny room in the cities with homeless problems?
>>532238788Finland is not North America. Try that here and most will outright refuse what you offer them or else trash the place and then disappear.
>>532236714This. The only actual solution is to reopen the asylums and build work camps where they can clean up and learn skills while actually benefitting the country, rather than shitting it up. This had been discussed FOREVER, and is the only actual solution
>>532239088Or we could just accept that some people will choose to be homeless. It is their right to choose.
>>532236468they probably spent it on alcohol and mcdonalds. and that's ok!
>>532238788Finland fixed homelessness by winters dropping down to -30C. Any druggie outside in that temperature won't be a problem by Spring
>>532236468what if instead of stupid shit like "lets just give the homeless money!" or "increase the minimum wage!" we said smart shit like "we need mass deportstions to get rid of the massive labor surplus making jobs harder to get and making wages lower" or what about "we need to stop worshipping a jewish fake-money gdp line because its just a measure of how fake and gay our money has become"?no? dont wanna do that? you just want more worthless monopoly money?... goycattle are beyond saving and deserve their shackles....
>>532238693Who said anything about giving? I'm talking making it affordable, you're talking about treating them like it's the Holodomor and they're a bunch of Christians in your communist shithole.
>>532239305i can accept them living in the wilderness. i do not need to accept them leeching off civilization. if they want to be leeches they can live in the dorms
How many homeless people are there?How much does a single 9mm bullet cost?
>>532236468Over eighty percent of the homeless who remain homeless for more than five years are found to have had crippling mental illnesses before they became homeless every time the statistics are taken. The homeless population shit up by exact proportion to the closures of asylums. We took an imperfect system and replaced it with nothing at all.Those people are not "savable" they can either be on the street or in asylums, both of which have downsides. They can also be dead, but that's usually seen as unconscionable.
>>532236468We give the fed reserve 90 billion a month for the interest on the debt.Print our own money instead.90 billion a month is 455,000 200k houses455,000 houses we give these mystery bankers every month.EVERY MONTH
>>532237221A solution that does not start with "remove the browns who are nothing but a drain on the economy" is no solution at all.
>>532239796You don't need a bullet to kill yourself. Just move to Canada and sign up for their MAID program.
>>532237260What about the people who have severe mental illness and crippling drug problems that cannot be treated and will not volunteer for treatment?You know, most of the PERMANENTLY homeless?
>>532236468You can't end homelessness with handouts. They WANT to be homeless. They can get high all day, never go to work, never have any responsibilities. They just get free housing, free food, free money, and get to spend it all on drugs. You can end homelessness and drug addiction by ending the enabler programs that make it possible to live this way. There's no rock bottom or road to recovery as long as the state enables permanent addiction.
>>532239949we spend 80k on each homeless bum so shanequia can send them to a soup kitchen people basically make their living off of homeless people and the people feeding them are all volunteer
>>532237759>These people aren't lesser than you, they're the same. You just got lucky.What percentage of homeless people do you think were born with severe mental retardation?
>>532240199which is why only mental asylums work
>>532236468Money and shelter does not end drug addiction or schizophrenia. Sometimes it makes things worse. Libtoids just assume everyone who's homeless is there because they lost their jobs or some shit. That's almost never the case.
>build a small town>build a wall around it>cameras all over it>ship in homeless people>live stream all the camera feeds for a small subscription costThe people zoo
>>532236468Well, there are about 800k homeless in America, so on the high end it would cost about $280k total to eliminate all homelessness.
>>532239592Economic measures such as removing brownoids can lower the amount of the "temporarily" homeless, people without a home for under five years, but does functionally nothing for the "chronically" homeless, which despite being a minority of the homeless, are all people really think about when it comes to homelessness.The chronically homeless are exclusively people who would have otherwise been in Asylums in the past, or the most extreme degree of drug addicts. These people cannot be turned into normal citizens. They can be trundled off to asylums against their will, killed, or ignored, but not significantly altered, outside of the relatively small proportion that can be corrected with surgery, heavy medication, etc.
>>532236468This is not how money works.Money doesn't buy stuff. It gives control over other people. The point of hoarding money is to maximize the control you have over others.e.g. if everyone had a billion dollars, everyone would be poor.
>>532236468However much it would take to execute all drug dealers and reopen insane asylums.
>>532240716As with many problems today:In a theoretical sense? Very little.In a practical sense? More than society is willing to pay even if it has to die to avoid it.
>>532240417Technically the majority of the homeless population is only homeless temporarily. The "chronically" or "permanently" homeless are a smaller group, they're just impossible to help no matter how much money you dump on them.
>>532236468Believing homelessness is an economic problem might be the most bluepilled normie libcuck take of all time. Many, if not most homeless people, WANT to be homeless. It is a very similar worldview to the frogposters on this site who brag about being NEETs. You could give every homeless person a free apartment and they would be back on the streets within a year. Homelessness is at least a psychological problem. I would go even further and say it is a spiritual problem.t. Christfag who has done homeless outreach
>>532236468these motherfuckers be trying to fix a bullet wound with a bandaidlel
>>532238566You're a tick living on the ass of a demonic empire, thinking you're better than the demon that sustains you and that your way of life will be sustainable once the demon dies.
>>532236468deportation could fix this
>>532236468just build this
>>532236468Homeless person can smoke $750 worth of crack in a day.
>>532236468It bought them more crack/meth.
>>532236554>stop paying the people claiming to fix it but only perpetuate it so they keep their jobisn't this the current definition of government?
i watched a videothis woman was like i have to pay 1.2k to live heremy renter pays me 1.3k is the root of the problem
>>532236468Cap property prices per square meter so that it costs a same percent of salary as it did in 1980. Do the same with rent. Increase property taxes 5x. There, problem fixed.
>>532236468Draft homeless to war
>>532241795What percentage of the homeless do you think are total mental cripples who cannot be made sound by giving them resources they use by choice?
>>532241820thats a good way to end up with lots of dead zogbots
>>532241982Bro if you rent or have a 30-40 year mortgage you're basically homeless, meaning you're 3 bad months away from being actually homeless. Getting a mortgage or renting forever to afford housing is insane. Like if you bought food or air using a mortgage. It's just parasitism that kills nations, not democratic at all.
>>532236468Infinity or zero depending on how you look at it. The point is this isn't something that you can just throw money at. You ever see what happens to free housing the government gives out to homeless people? The shit ends up being destroyed and it's just the money sink. The real way you end homelessness is to cure the problems with pathological greed and dishonesty that the human race has as well as refocusing the collective humanity towards something besides the acquisition of wealth in order to give people real meaningful purpose beyond materialism. That's how you fix homelessness, not with communism.
>>532241982Also yes I fucking think that even mentally ill people should have housing. I think that housing, food, energy and water should he cheap, everything else should be free market. If you pay so much taxes you literally deserve something back in return.
>>532242693>meaning you're 3 bad months away from being actually homelessonly if you're a renter and even then you can drag out that shit for a yearif you're a home owner you have tons of options to save your home. learn American rights before you post again Lazar
I'm homeless and it sucks. You have no idea what it's like to exist outside of society if you've never actually been in this situation. I went from a normal middle class suburbanite to this. All it takes is a couple of minor catastrophes and no support system, or a support system that knows it can benefit from your absence (thinking inheritance). So many of you guys are just hopelessly sheltered.
>>532236468I bet if they gave me an extra $750 a month it would make me happier.
>>532242896You do realize that for the firsr 15/20 years of your mortgage you're paying almost only interest. You don't start owning shit until then, you're paying rent to the bank + taxes + repairs + mandatory insurance. You have no options for help, if you lose your job to AI or it gets outsourced to a Mexican and you can't find another job what do you do in 6 months? If people are afraid for their existence 24/7 and can barely afford to pay rent or mortgage how can they have kids or push society forward?
>>532243119>You do realize that for the firsr 15/20 years of your mortgage you're paying almost only interestmore assumptive / misinformative postingno one pays JUST their mortgage every month, at least who I know. we pay double or triple because 1. my mortgage isn't astronomical and 2. because it drastically shortens my overall payment length; I'll be paid off in under 10 years.I don't understand your doomer mentality. You clearly shouldn't ever buy anything EVER if this is how you handle your own debt.You must live month to month and think everyone's life is just like yours.
>>532240243You mean like a communist?
>>532243459>pays more mortgage every month, giving the bank free money instead of investing the money and using inflation to his advantageYou're even more stupid bro. I have ZERO debt, I don't even have a credit card. Never had any single loan in my life and I will never get one. I save 70% of my salary after paying rent and all expenses and I invest it. I plan to move back with my parents, too. If your piggybank is your home you will be left holding the bag in 10-15 years, as new housing is built all around and the population isn't rising, it's going down almost everywhere.
>>532243076They don't have to give me anything, they just need to stop taking it away. That would make me overjoyed.This country is insane in that it punishes it's honest hard workers in order to reward the most shitty people imaginable.Americans are taxed to death so convicted felons can get free schooling, so single moms can neglect her child, so immigrants and niggers get free housing, so (((bankers))) can blow up the economy and get a massive payout.Meanwhile I worked hard and never did anything wrong and it only made me a target and a pay pig.
>>532236468>Giving people not enough to rent an apartment did not make them rent an apartment>Giving them enough to buy food did make them buy foodIs this how social science works? Is this the epitome of social experiments?
>>532243931yeah and you don't own anything and probably never willkeep believing you "beat the system" and die broke and childless, chuddie
>>5322364681/10th of 1 percent of what we spend on wars in the middle east for Greater Israel.
