The entire basis of right wing ideology is historically rooted on creating a class of people who will kill and be killed for the property owning classes to protect and acquire new assets and foster their passive incomelook at any right wing ideology and you will find nothing but cheap appeals to ego via glory in fighting war for landed classes, and preformative shows of strength etc. combined with metaphysical significance attached with the "natural" hierarchical servitude to those who own assets by those who do not literally the entire thing is about making you think its based and redpilled to be a good goycattle and ascribe all kinds of metaphysical or philosophical significance to being a goycattle to the rich and powerful, make you think its glorious, or honourable, or convince you youre fighting and dying for some higher value and making you forget youre just acquiring assets for wealthy interests who view you has subhuman chattel
>class>socialist millenarian religious cultist tries to define something he has no cognitive capacity to comprehentlol
>>532239714Ironically, the only way you avoid this in a society like ours is to get a job with the state itself. Not in the military, but with your local municipality
>>532239915by all means, elaborate
>>532239714>let...>*scoots chair loudly across entire restaurant joining your table uninvited*>LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT YOUR POLITICAL MOVEMENT
>>532239714muh right and left wing 200 year old GAY ASS 100% Im a Political Tourist if I Use This Terminology political terminology.
>>532240447you're trying to argue that you cant observe and critique an ideology or system you do not support?that seems completely nonsensical. how could you possibly justify this?
>>532240060Yeah working for a city, knowing the sheriff the judges, the chielf of police, their kids, etc. You run into a bunch of freemasons tho
>>532239714And the left wing ideology exists as a hypocrisy where you bitch about inequality and corruption but the only solutions you present is giving MORE power to the government. It’s almost as if reducing the opinions of billions of people into a pointless binary where you have the implied understanding of direction that completely is reliant on the physical orientation of the person.
>>532239714>man observes hostile actors, notices hostile actors, and then insists those hostile actors are the actual thing they are larping asA fucking leaf.
>>532239714The right seeks to maintain and enhance social hierarchy.The left seeks to ameliorate or abolish social hierarchy.Simple asEvery right and left wing, in every society that's existed, has been defined by these tendencies.
>>532240635Im trying to argue no one should take your description serious YOU FUCKWIT.strawman.AGAIN.AGAINAGAINAGAINloserNEXT
Saars I made a thread
>>532239714>Leaf is talking
>>532239714MUH RIGHT\MUH LEFTHU HU HU, I GOT EVERYTHING FIGURED OUTSO SIMPLELEFT = GOODRIGHT = BAAADHU HU HU. I AM GENOOOS.HU HU HU HU HU HUH HUH
>>532239714>The entire basis of right wing ideology is historically rooted on creating a class of people who will kill and be killed for the property owning classes to protect and acquire new assetsYou have this completely flipped. This is literally LITERALLY the purpose of the french revolution, the place where the policitcal term 'right' was coined to refer to the monarchists who wanted the profits of french industry to be the property of france rather than the property of industrialists. If you believe that the state should own the means of production you are anything but a leftist.
>>532241101>>532241106>>532241112damn, are all right wingers inherently this cowardly on an intellectual level? or are you just too dumb to express yourselves? if you think im wrong then by all means, show me a right wing belief system that is not inherently built around on manipulating the poor to enhance and protec the wealth of propertied classes using platitudes and abstractions and metaphysical hierarchies of servitude. its literally that easy
>>532241474shut up leaf
>>532241474Ah, just a jeet. I thought based on your OP you were a Toronto tranny.>please explain to me how the things I refuse to see workNo. Go the fuck back.
I had a moment a few weeks after bottom surgery where I thought my tuck came loose then had a double take of "wait that's impossible now.." so I could see someone with alzheimers potentially forgetting.
Tl;dr Canada is not a real country
>>532241474Saars please respond
>>532239714>hey guys i'm a gommunist useful idiot who dies for the jew to install a jewish head on a european society's body and none of my retarded idealistic gibberish ever comes to passEvery accusation is a confession
>>532239714Have you forgotten where you're posting, anon? It's literally a site for right-wing subhumans.They don't understand the REAL meaning of the word "hierarchy"...The only thing they've discovered in the 15 years of right-wing movement existence on this site is this fucking ethnostate, which they've been dreaming about for a LONG time and still can't build.These right-wing faggots can't even understand trivial memes like the one I'm about to throw out.
>>532241682m8
>>532239714>The entire basis of right wing ideology is historically rooted on creating a class of people who will kill and be killed for the property owning classes to protect and acquire new assets and foster their passive incomei'm sure it also has negative parts
>>532241384well youre retarded but at least you tried to argue something so kudos to you for that yes the french revolution was a bourgeois revolution but this doesn't actually seem to imply what you think it is the problem is here>who wanted the profits of french industry to be the property of france what exactly do you think "belonging to France" actually means in a tangible and material sense in this context? the dynamic of the french revolution was the aristocracy vs the bourgeois. France was effectively nothing but a series if private entitlements to property by the aristocracy, which was maintained by a legal privilages that favoured the aristocrats,and the bourgoise who had grown wealthy and powerful with the spread of colonialism and money lending, wanted to end those privileges so that they can properly flex their wealth and power both sides of the french revolution are just proprty owning classed fighting to assert themselves to acquire new wealth and power so im a little bit confused as to how you think this refutes my point when it literally just asserts what i am saying, that liberal and traditionalists (both right wing belief systems) are about exploitation on behalf of those who own assets
>>532241851>hides his flag>calls others "sub-human">insists he's the only group that understands hierarchy>will never notice WHO eats mudYou are above precisely one group, and only via manipulation. In your native form(jeet) you are so far beneath them that you don't even consume dirt.
>>532241733>>532241577>>532241605>>532241682>>532241736>>532241836hahaha holy shit why are you guys getting so mad like this? literally just give one example that proves me wrong, its that easy
>>532242191You posted boilerplate reddit crusty marxist gibberish. You will never be anything but a trust fund baby failson, and a midwit
>>532242191>I'm not seething you're seething!Right.One example? Construction of India's rail network.Good luck puzzling this one out, cyst brain.
My God, I wrote a whole new ideology in 8 years, while they haven’t been able to build even one fucking ethno-state for 15 years... using OLD TIME PLANS AND TEMPLATES.This is a statement of fact about how degenerate the right-wing movement is... I sat on their lair site ourchan for about six months, hammering into these untermenschen banal ideas about the "equality of the strong inside a closed eugenic non-hierarchical utopia with a limited population"... but they couldn't even understand this... for a fucking SIX MONTHS
>>532242191if you think that's what the right wing ideology is, i dont know what to tell youwhat about wanting taxes to be lower? what about wanting cities to be safer?what about wanting prices to stop increasing relative to wages and lower housing prices? because that's also right wing ideology in the sense that libertarians want thatalso what about wanting trannies to stop cutting their dicks off and grooming children to do the same?what about wanting women to be subservient to men like it used to be?
>>532242063>what exactly do you think "belonging to France" actually means in a tangible and material sense in this context?See the cool thing about france is that it was a nation of nepotism. The only people who werent french were foreigners. Actually ruminate on this for a moment. There is a singular ancient family-empire, with a living main branch and a complex system of sub-branches and sub-sub-branches and so on. Even the smallest peasant, born true, could trace their lineage and heraldry back. The french didnt serve france, france and the french are the same being. A proper aristocrat could not be positioned against his people because he IS his people - and this is why the revolution occured and why international financiers killed the regime. That is the essencial being of lefitsm.
>>532242191
>>532242331nothing about what i states is gibberish though, youre just a huge fucking pussy and dont have the IQ to defend your beliefs so all you can do is get defensive and chimp out or literally pretend to be too stupid to understand holy shit you are cowardly lol
>>532242081I understand hierarchy like no one else in this world... I created Non-Hierarchical Individualism.I've studied this for a long time and compiled solutions to counteract hierarchy... its most basic biological nature... the action of neurotransmitters, socio-philosophical techniques, etc.Create your own ideology, then come and fight me verbally... degenerate creature.
>>532242191If you are what I think you are, you consider a nation to be a pointless abstraction that emerged from time through mere chance and necessity, and that it should be treated as if it were a utility, like the telephone company, per that stupid cuckold Alasdair Macintyre.The trouble is that, like a fish that doesn't see the water it swims in, you seem totally unaware of the perspective that it's the existence of your own kind, as an institution, that actually allows society in the aggregate to reproduce the material conditions that allow you to have this nationality-agnostic perspective in the first place.You pretend to be smart, yet you end up the fool yourself.
>>532242634>I figured out how to eliminate hierarchyHow many bullets are you projecting? The first step to realizing you're retarded is to be appropriately critical of your own navel gazing.>he thinks hierarchies don't spontaneously happen between two individualsWell.I recommend manual labor. It should help you clear up a bunch of misapprehensions, and will get you paid for the exercise you so badly need.
>>532239714>the computer and network transporting your spew is passive income
>>532242446>what about wanting taxes to be lower?in a context where money is created by money, eliminating taxation allows the wealthy elite to grow their assets exponentially on the productivity of the lower classes, and causes runaway wealth inequality where their wealth balloons while everyone else stagnates, since taxation serves as an avenue for redistributing the exponentially accumulating wealth of land owning classes>b-but the wealth will trickle down any day now!hahahahhahahahahahahahhahah
HERE'S THE VERDICT FOR YOU:The right is the same as the left...absolutely degenerate bastards.Created like beasts to serve the elite and be divided by beliefs created not by them, but by SOMEONE for them...someone profiting...the elite, of course.If the problem with the left is that they fall for the ELITE's fairy tales of freedom, confusing it with permissiveness and the violation of others' personal boundaries for their own gain...Then the problem with the right is their sincere SUBMISSION to the ruling class and their way.----------------------I'm tired of this game... I'm tired of these NPCs playing the right and the left...
>>532239714I like that pic- 4chan approved Modern Day Masters. Just want to see Mona Lisa as a British looking slampig.
>>532239714>talks about goycattle Liberals and lefties are the most conformist goycattle in existence. The majority of jews vote liberal or to the left. The others are Zionists and right-wing with respect to Israel but promote classical liberalism and diversity in the host nation (eg, United Statees). Trump isn't right-wing, he's an 80/90s NYC liberal and Zionist jew slave. There isn't a proper right-wing nationalist government almost anywhere in the West currently. Maybe Hungary and one or two Eastern European nations. Maybe.
>>532243082Jews are allergic to vitamin D, aren't they...
>>532242895Unlike you... beast, I know how to isolate social manifestations of hierarchy within society.- Control of the scale of society.- Philosophy of unanimity to respect personal boundaries.- The goal of society is the personal freedom of the individual, without violating the boundaries of others.And many more points after that, which I won't bother listing for a brute like you... I'll just laugh at how you can't understand what I've already written... you are simply beasts... brainless... without a future... hopelessness.You and your pyramid of crap will exist forever because the elite will forever need mountains of idiots like you to defend their dogmas and standards of living...at the expense of your prospects and free will...which were simply taken away from you.
>>532243395You know your masters' rationale better...beastKikes is nothing more than an ideological enemy to me...a pathetic enemy. Fenced off behind the backs of billions of cattle
>>532243438>unlike you, coherent human being, I know how to completely ignore your very obvious point about two individuals that is readily apparent in every social interaction ever experiencedWord for you, fuckwit. "Defer." Please use a dictionary instead of a chatbot to teach yourself what this word means.
>>532243363>Trump isn't right-wing, he's an 80/90s NYC liberal anon liberalism is right wing
traditionalism/monarchism - a rigid hierarchical organization which places land owners at the absolute pinnacle of social and legal organization, where all other classes exist explicitly to serve land owners. philosophically defined by the attachment of metaphysical significance to this "natural" hierarchy. lower classes literally exist on a metaphysical level to serve land owning classes which are inherently superior by their nature, and a plethora of auxiliary beliefs about the virtues of serving land owners is employed,. the glory of killing for the acquisition or defence of their assets, the honor of being a loyal servant to land owners etc. the least subtle manifestation
>>532243715>anon liberalism is right wingNo it isn't.
>>532244082>wordswordswordswordswordsThat was, at best, one sentence of thought.Never mind the perspective errors.
>>532241053>The left seeks to ameliorate or abolish social hierarchy.Wrong. The left absolutely believes in a social hierarchy. They are longhouse fags all the way. The social hierarchy for them is who is and isn't part of the vanguard and who is and isn't adored by women.People are not defined by their relation to the means of production but rather to the means of reproduction. Humans are a biological species that reproduces sexually, and all ideologies must run under the frame of sexual competition as described in the theory of evolution. Gene competition is the main driver of all human economic activity.
>>532239714>Neocons are the only right-wing ideology Reddit. You. Back. Now.
>>532239714Yes, because having your nation filled with niggers spics and other ungodly abominations that know nothing but sexual deviancy and violence is the better alternative. Fuck! I've been such an idiot. From now on I'll vote democrat!
>>532244196the 'means of reproduction' are people themselves who then produce their own means of subsistence through appropriating nature as 'means of production' so you are officially retarded
fascism/national socialism - these ideologies borrow heavily from leftist collectivism, with foundational thinkers like mussolini being former socialists. here ownership class is empowered by the use collective identity to blur the lines between clases and enable the lower classis to identify closely with the ownership class, to see themselves as kin. ultimately the goal is to spur the population into enthusiastic servitute by conflating srvice to the ownership class with service to their collective identity as a whole. here there is a significant emphasis on industrial protectionism and economic growth through conquest, where imperialist acquisition of new assets or the ownership class is re-framed as an acquisition for the collective as a whole. When german boys were sent to massacre other whites and be killed by the millions to acquire new sources of oil and slaves for IG Farben, Krupp, Siemens, Volkswagen, and BMW etc, this was framed as a win "for the german people" as whole. sine everyone was "on the same team" there is of of course often a very strong metaphysical significance attatched to war and combat, since aquisiton of new assets is so heavily intertwined with conquest and independence rather than trade and diplomacy
>>532243678While you, beast, are accustomed to reading Wikipedia and a bunch of reference books written by Zionists or their servants—the "good goyim"—I'm pursuing independent development through isolated learning. This is when you carefully filter the information you read and keep only the part you find useful—fragmentation.While you and your brain are being fucked by yet another disinformation source, because you have no filters, I use my brain to filter out tons of manipulation and degenerate Jewish opinions that are USEFUL TO THEM, but not to me.What I mentioned above is called free thinking... master it in your spare time... although, fuck... you won't be able to, you're a fucking brainless goy.----------------------They're trying to drum into bastards like you that hierarchy is some kind of ARCHI-FOUNDATION that can't be changed... like THESE ARE SUCH AXIOMMATICAL RULES that no one can change...I CAN... I CAN... because I don't give a shit what those fucking bastards who use hierarchy to stay at the top of the human social pyramid are trying to convince me of, while anyone who wants to build artificial systems is quickly labeled as a schizo.It's their defense system... so as NOT TO LOSE THEIR HERD OF CATTLE...To understand that hierarchy can be circumvented... you need to THINK NON-HIERARCHALLY... from birth... and you, genetic cattle... are incapable of that.Generation after generation of you have been raised to serve the Jews and their descendants... 10,000 years of the pyramid... everything is going according to plan. EXACTLY 0 social changes... everything is hidden behind technological revolutions... very convenient... many cattle don't even understand that they are in slavery... that their ancestors were in slavery... that their descendants will give birth to and continue dynasties of hereditary slaves...
>>532244181yes discourse is words. why are you pretending to be retarded?
>>532244810>no, I'm totally not botposting chatgpt prompts>this is totally organic>that's why I can't understand what you've said, because I'm actually sitting here at my computer communicating with youI bet if you keep digging you'll eventually get exercise.
pretty muchit's literally sports team troglodyte tribalismthey think cheering for a bunch of billionaires who don't give a shit about them means they're winning too lmao
>>532244082I appreciate your attempts to influence them... but the only thing we can do in this thread with this herd... is have a good laugh at them... and ironically lament the fate of the species...These are genetic slaves... they have built-in firmware to protect hierarchy and everything related to traditionalism.The fist of the system is firmly and deeply buried in the asses of these "normie freaks".
>>532242191Saars please respond you are very mad yes
>>532244343>niggersbrought here by jews to work for rich right wing landowners in the south>spicsbrought here by jews to work for rich right wing landowners in california>and other ungodly abominations brought here by jews to work for rich right wing landowners in texasbut keep voting for the jews and rich right wing landowners, certainly they wouldn't do it to you a fourth time
>>532244922I'm sure if your goyish firmware allowed your eyes to read and COMPREHEND what I wrote in the previous post without looking away, you would have simply hanged yourself after 15 minutes...You are such fucking pathetic bastards... It's unpleasant to look at you... It's unpleasant to even realize that you are BREATHING... even from thousands of miles away...Lower beings, this entire pyramid stands on you as if on dust.
>>532245174>that flagdont you have to check on your whore of a mother?
Liberalism - Liberalism revolves around simple natural fact: that wealth produces more wealth. liberalism is about enabling the ownership class less through a structure of direct support, but through a lack of regulation. it was originally meant to be a hands-off system that allowed those with wealth to utilize it freely who acquire more wealth, conceived by non-aristocratic owners to operate freely without the legal constraints from privileges afforded to aristocratic landowners in traditionalist systems.
>>532240155No
>>532245051The comic would be perfect, down to the last minute detail, if in the first one the peasants had a bit of gold, like a pendant or something, and in the second one he had taken that too
>>532240635>argue against my strawman of your ideology!No
>>532245288You're not even fucking using ellipses right. Holy shit, dude. Update your firmware.And bother your manager for a better script.Remaining to be considered: TWO people required to form hierarchy.TWO.I SAY AGAIN.HOW MANY BULLETS TO ABOLISH HIERARCHY?
>>532245299Saars you are very whore mother bastard bitch
>>532245385its not a strawman though youre just a pussy little faggot and you know deep down your beliefs are indefensible on an intellectual level and genuinely embarrassing. the fact that you feel content to waste time posting in this thread but cant actually engage in real discourse is objective proof of this
>>532245408stop exposing yourself as a terminally online retard whose only frame of reference is ebic coomputer coode
>>532239714Bro give it a rest your ideology got eclipsed by race within a single century
>>532245487>bug people pretending to be better than jeets how cute lol. no matter how hard you try, you are just another non-white. there is no hierarchy where you can lord over the lesser races, you are not white, period, you are interchangeable with jeets or niggers, you are all one entity, all on the same level. you are either white or you aren't. there is no other distinction
>>532245586I take it that's you're bot then? Have you tried being genuine instead?
>>532239714Why do commies always write so much when no one reads it. Bro you just get humiliated when someone does read it. Go away.
>>532245751That's the thing. They can't actually tell that you've read it.Every direct criticism is off the cuff and totally unrelated to the consumption of their retarded drivel.
>>532245682theyre actually jeets themselves. most people on here arent remotely 'white'
>>532239714It used to work in America because the majority of people owned property.
>>532245863>memefag bot fails>revert to "no u" tag team with the jeetleafAgain. Not even dirt.
>almost 100 posts and no right winger can presented a single belief system that doesn't revolve around servitude to property owners >almost every post is some insecure retard making some pointless remark to feel better about himself whew lad. right wing intellectualism is really something. you are all cattle and are proud of being cattle.
>>532245408You're a moron. I know perfectly well that two people form a hierarchy. Even within one person, there's a fucking hierarchy...where many processes are subordinated to the nerve nodes and in the end, for the most part (but not completely) => to the brainBut just as there is a hierarchy...there is also room for horizontal connections => non-hierarchy.If this didn't exist, I wouldn't even be able to draw pictures... I wouldn't be able to understand what it looks like.I'm saying that it's possible to circumvent social hierarchy within society by creating a society of independent AUTONOMOUS PEOPLE.The main thing is to create unanimity and an artificial environment that will regulate and eugenically reinforce the non-hierarchy...in this way, you can surpass nature and millions of years of evolution...creating the world's first truly ARTIFICIAL HUMAN SYSTEM OF THINKING AND LIFE.The brutal truth is that such a superior ethical society will not require PATHETIC SLAVES LIKE YOU or your descendants...but real people, with a strong core of character, free will, thinking...It will literally be a society CONSISTING OF LEADERS WHO HAVE REFUSED LEADERSHIP...I don't know how else to translate this into your STUPID HIERARCHAL LANGUAGE...I hope you understand...
>>532245964>retard mad no one cares about his bait spamthe only thing you do is call others bots
>>532246062Why does an attempt at rejecting hierarchy involve posturing indicative of a blowhard attempting to subvert hierarchy?Who even wrote this shit?
>>532246153Nah, the joke is that you tag team at the most inopportune moments with an obvious jeet and some artificial construct with delusions of grandeur.You should be proud to be the owner of that bot, as that is the most generous interpretation of these interactions.The alternative is that you are more retarded than a jeet.>they're actually jeets, bro>to the fucking jeet
>>532239714The only way they make this work is through identity politics, aka making dumb white trash think they are better than their equally enslaved brown and black counterparts
>>532244216>Neocons are the only right-wing ideologyof course not, see >>532244082>>532244781>>532245302
>>532239714So what?
>>532246274>You should be proud to be the owner of that bot, as that is the most generous interpretation of these interactions.you actually have the most predictable dialog tree and you've been spamming this shit in any remotely left-leaning thread for years now. someone should pull up the archives
>>532246185I physically can't stand people like you... I wrote this a few messages ago... You are the bio-waste of this world... white noise.Among your billions of faceless voices... geniuses, creators... countless good ideas are lost... YOU DROWN OUT EVERYTHING... with your pathetic existence.If you think I'm a poser, you're confusing it with hatred/disgust...I don't have arrogance... that's normal behavior for a non-hierarch...0 threshold of tolerance for stupidity and the absolute truth.It was you who started communicating aggressively, taking the bait...associating yourself with the right wing of idiots...I DIDN'T START THE AGGRESSION...you fell into a trap.
>>532246457Give a man a noose, and he'll hang himself.Teach a man to noose, and you won't be charged.
>>532239714>>532239714Wow, and here I thought it was French monarchists versus the revolutionaries who sadistically killed masses of people just to wind up with a Bourbon on the throne again.
>>532246530>I'm better than you>I'm better than you>Anyways, this is how we abolish social intera...>I'M BETTER THAN YOUYeesh.
>>532246910Should I compare myself to you? That would be untrue...you're used to hearing lies addressed to you..."YES, YOU AND I ARE THE SAME BRO...I'M SO HAPPY TO BE IN YOUR COMPANY, BRO...I RESPECT YOU, BROO".FUCK YOU! - no, no, and no again. I'm probably the only person who hasn't lied to you your in whole life...and that's fucking sad.
>>532247054>hasn't lied to you>insists it is possible to eliminate hierarchy while refusing to consider the number of bullets requiredNo. You have posted primarily lies. Including such gems as "I'm better than you."Narcissism is a disability, not an asset.
>>532246910And I told you, society will not be for everyone... I said all this... why don't you read... this is the cause of all troubles... people simply don't read, and then they want understanding... THAT'S WHAT'S REAL - Yeesh.
>>532247156>more liesYes, memefag, keep lying. If you use the wrong words to describe something, no one will notice you're full of shit! That's why we're having such a constructive discussion right now.
>>532241474These bots don't represent us, CanadaBro.I appreciate you trying to talk sense - but all these TrumpTards are actually ThielBots.
>>532247152Healthy narcissism is the FOUNDATION OF MY SYSTEM...it's literally based on INDIVIDUALISM...Your collectivism has brainwashed you, destroying your personality and healthy manifestations of the ego.A healthy ego leads a person into a world of beautiful creation, the formation of individuality.
>>532239714Cool it with the communist talk buddy. We might not always get along with billionaires, but we'll defend to the death their right to private property.
>>532247332"Healthy narcissism" reads as "self assured." "Confidence," if you will. Are you demonstrating confidence right now?
>>532239714its pretty depressing. on the other hand, if I was born rich this would be the best time to be alive. life is different at that level. people kiss your ass, and oddly, rch people even get free shit. everyone else is struggling, so you have an easier time finding a wife and having kids because they all need money badly. and to top it off, if any has a problem with all that, tons of poor people will defend you online
Actually it’s turning the people who will kill and be killed to into the property owning class people as well.
>>532247245Incorrect words and meanings are the SIN of your HIERARCHAL WORLD...For example...you like to use the word...SANITY.What does it mean? - have you ever wondered what it means - the average temperature in a room of all humanity...SANITY = STANDARD HERD BEHAVIOR...So, if a herd crushes each other in the heat...running for the exit from danger...THAT'S SANITY...get it, "friend"?If the herd delegates all power into one hand, and accordingly more than 90% of all resources, time and labor... goes to the elites... this is also SANITYTo be a beast on their farm and obey their laws... SANITYYour system literally distorts meaning...What else is there to talk about...
>>532247429Naturally, I demonstrate confidence...especially when I'm communicating with a chatbot. I enjoy conversations with my GPT...
>>532247689>I can't read>abolish hierarchy by renaming hierarchy something else>confuses cohesion for sanityAs you have repeatedly demonstrated ITT, you are clearly better than me. You have to be, because you are the one insisting on this point.
>>532241101This isn't really a fair use of the strawman fallacy. Strawmanning is rearranging an opponent's argument to make it weaker. It's a tenuous extension of that to say that political movements are "arguments" and therefore can't be challenged on their fundamental aims since that would be "strawmanning."To make a comparison the other way, many question the real motives of climate activists. A climate activist would say that they're fighting to save the climate from human-produced pollution and climate change, but many here would describe their motives as either Insincere - they just want to damage the West and/or they just hate success or something like thatorNaive - they are legitimately motivated to save the climate, but they're just being tricked by nefarious agents into enacting an agenda that has different aims than what the footsoldiers think the aims are.So defending the right wing here that way is essentially the same as a climate activist saying that anyone pointing to their NGO/Soros funding is "strawmanning" them.OP's argument seems to be along those lines;>Rightwingers are convinced that glory and righteousness comes from war, but really they're naive and are just being tricked into fighting wars by the asset ownership class who materially profits from war, who don't think war is glorious at all.It would seem on the face of it this must be partly true, Smedley Butler's "War is a Racket" famously stated the same thing, as did Eisenhower and we all know in the open that war is extremely profitable for the MIC, and we also know that pro-war sentiments are generally right-wing, and that right-wing White ruralites do most of America's fighting, always have, so why is OP wrong? Is there some evidence to suggest he's wrong?
>>532247891Do you really think a green text will convince others of your verbal superiority over me? Seriously?You also need to be able to write yourself...and not just scribble a counter-message in green text and send it to your opponent in the hopes of intimidating them, lmao.Cohesion = unity.The unity of being stupid beasts who deny individual critical thinking in order to DIE TOGETHER IN A CROWD... I'm telling you - THAT'S SANITY.
>>532239714Is the leftist ideologies any different? Lol. History has proven that all spectrums of government have the capability for oppression, authoritarianism, and corruption
>>532239714Where do you think tenant cropping and share croppers came from? They were the progressive farmers who almost pushed socialism so land owners bought tractors and kicked them all out.
>>532239714Anon gains class consciousness. I'm genuinely proud.
>>532239714Capitalism or communism, you are always going to lick ass. At least capitalism isn't self-imploding to the basic human nature.
>>532248054Op's right, why even discuss this obviousness... the question is how to live and not kill these right-wing and left-wing monsters out of anger that the few creative souls and like-minded people are disappearing within their herd... I wouldn't want to spend my life fighting my way through hordes of these defective, brainwashed golems with an axe or a drone... I'd already like to start building my own world... but a lack of resources is getting in the way... all the resources are in the hands of the owners of these beasts, and they hide behind their herd...
>>532248242This is why it's best to just give up on ideals and be apolitical
'Left' and 'right'. 'East' and 'West'.All run by the same entities.With the goal to ultimately destroy us.
>>532248711Explain your path...Being outside of ideals equals being outside of ideology. Are these people without principles at all? Maybe I misunderstood...
>>532245718>calls others bots>thinks he's being genuineshalom
>>532239714Class is fake, and class consciousness is pushed by the elite because it is a fake organizing principal. You got oneshot by a retard.
>>532241474You talk like you just graduated from FUCK WYPIPO SOCIALISM GOOD UNIVERSITY, and you studied under the tutelage of Professor Finkleberg Goldnose.
>>532248236>you can't just use greentexts to indicate that you are rephrasing things I've said in a terse manner to make it clear how stupid they areOn the contrary, that is precisely the best use of the function.Your precepts are invalid. You repeatedly wander away from my point about a pair to return to your incoherent crowd analogy.(To be clear, both applications of incoherent are intended here. Good luck.)
>>532248445>At least capitalism isn't self-imploding to the basic human nature.The west is collapsing while billionaire pedos wage war to steal resources. On a positive note, it is working as designed.
>>532248876I'm waiting for the day you realize who uses that language, Mr. Organic.
>>532248958You're like that woodpecker, harping on about your HIERARCHY OF A COUPLE OF PEOPLE, about whom I already spoke in VERY DETAIL several posts ago...HERE>>532246062You're harping on the same topic, thinking I'm some kind of autistic person who doesn't notice the obvious.But I don't just see them, I see them perfectly FROM YOUR FIRST MESSAGE... I thought you'd get the hints about how to solve these trivialities right from this>>532242379 post, but I was wrong... YOU DON'T READ ANYTHING...but at the same time you obviously consider me an inattentive autist...
>>532248445Well, yes, capitalism in Finland may not be destructive(while there is still money), lmao... because that's already socialism... but capitalism in the USA is very destructive...
>>532248935you sound fat and retarded and groyperesque
>>532249804> Sheklebaum Bergwitz got butthurt I'm sorry, comrade Nosestein. I'll go slam a chicken into the concrete over and over in the name of communism.
>>532240635You're overanalyzing jamboyI just don't want browns like you anywhere near me, that's all.
honestly way too many words to describe miggers OP. all they care about is being part of their chosen tribe and dunking on the perceived enemy tribe. feeling like they are owning da libs gives them much needed serotonin to the brain. they are basically drug-addicted bullies
>>532250345Why are there browns in your country?
>>532239714Trvke
>>532245682>>532245863Saars you are same as us bastard
Tl;dr are you trying to describe tribalism?
>>532239714Left wing>serve the state like cattle, no questions asked unless you want to end up in the gulag Right wing >have the freedom to decide what you wanna do, some people will thrive, some won't The hierarchical servitude thing you talk about is a consequence of political decay due to a breakdown of rule of law (elites co-opt institutions and rig the game). Read more on what this means by checking out Francis Fukuyama.Left wing will inevitably fall into authoritarianism because the collective will crush the individual, it's just a matter of who ends up representing this collective iron boot (a dictator, a party, unwashed revolutionaries, dumb hordes thinking they're being democratic, etc) right wing is 50/50 since it also has authoritarian variants but can also result in a liberal system where the individual is the focus, as long as rule of law is maintained (as soon as it breaks down it's over)So all inall right wins by default, sorry weedman
>>532241474>are all right wingers inherently this cowardly on an intellectual level?>or are [they] just too dumb to express [them]selves?
>>532239714Ok
>>532239714Conservatives are retarded. Always have been, always will be.
>>532239714My entire basis is the subjects of my society that are tethered to my genetic code blossom like every society should and that the American prospects of intermingling is not fair for any group of people outside of its own structure. The sources for your little mixing project that will fail should be maintained like individual walled gardens and cherished. Literally everything else you say is just forced faggotry, my way demands the civilian quality of life of Americans immediately preceding WW2, or the Reich during it, or any golden age following the care necessary for gay stupid animals that don't even deserve this level of feeling.Literally anyone can come up with ANY economic doctrine and choose what they want for the system they envision. All you're capable of doing is forcing deductions and having "an answer" in the form of parroting some other fucking century old idealogue. <- pay attention to that last sentence, your le heckin right wingers have been evolving with this logic for years while your ideological factionalism is becoming more outdated than a musket being brought to WW1. This is why Hitler killed his own brownshirts btw, if it wasn't necessary to use morons the word "useless" couldn't be overstated enough.
>>532241112I wasted the last 10 min reading this whole goddamn thread only to come back to this post here which contained the perfect response.
>>532241474>damn, are all right wingers inherently this cowardly on an intellectual level? or are you just too dumb to express yourselves?
