I voted for Trump but I still fully support abortion. I don't wanna have to deal with your retarded kid driving on the highway in 16 years.Debate me.>https://oilcity.news/crime/court/2026/04/01/judge-denies-request-to-add-wyomings-new-anti-abortion-law-to-ongoing-lawsuit/
>>532251530There is a depopulation crisis. We should discourage abortion. StillIt should be up to the mother until there is a viable baby. Then, the baby should have rights.
if it cant feel or think, it aint a humansimple as
Abortion has been an unparalleled good for the white race since if every single black aborted since 1973 had been born, we'd be at something like 20-25% black demographically. And don't forget Hispanics, they also get more abortions per capita than whites. Margaret Sanger was based.
>>532251612>viable baby
>>532251530People who are against abortion don't know the difference between an embryo and a fetus.
>>532251730repent sodomite
>>532251530I don't know how to debate you but that's what a human looks like when it's very young.
>>532251897>I don't know how to debate you but
>>532251614Meh there can be exceptions to that. Coma patients bro. If there's even one exception to a rule people are going to try to argue more exceptions, just human nature.The fetus is human scientifically. It belongs to the species Homo sapiens. It will develop conscious awareness DURING gestation at some point, months before birth.
>>532251897>that's what a human looks like when it's very young.No. That's cells 1 trillion of steps away from becoming a human. Are eggs, milk, and flour, pancakes?
>>532251530>organism with homo sapiens genetic code that is aliveSo it's a human life.What race is it?
>>532251530newfags will say a fetus is a clump of cells.nigga you're a clump of cellsthe fuck do you think humans are
>>532251996>It will develop conscious awarenessYou can't even test consciousness in adult humans, buy you claim that fetuses have it. Nonsense.
>>532251897Are you also anti-IVF? Embryos are made, and then discarded
>>532251530That's conception anon.It's the very base of humanity.Thank god I live in Texas where women can't be whores properly.
You realise that blob is more human than most leftists right?
>>532252041That's a pancake being cooked right in front of your eyes.If you throw it out now then you've effectively thrown out a pancake.
>>532252041Scientifically, the zygote is an organism (genetically distinct from both mother snd father), and a member of the species Homo sapiens. Homo sapiens = human.>Are eggs, milk, and flour, pancakes?No, but this is a weak analogy. Even if eggs, milk, and flour aren't pancakes, that tells us nothing about the fetus or even zygote, because it's a different thing. I'm going to do you a favor amd salvage the only decent part of your analogy that remotely maps on to this debate, which is the egg.You could have asked, "Is a fertilized egg a chicken?", and that would be an actually OK analogy. The pancake analogy falls flat, IYKWIM.
>>532252184Can you imagine if all these babies have consciousness and we're just killing them?Like they're sitting in the dark waiting to be born and then boom they die. This is happening to millions upon millions of souls for no reason. It's ridiculous. We're creating a hell realm. We're souls line up to be born and then get cut off.
>>532251530Does your girlfriend regret her abortions?
>>532251530
>>532252274Yes thanks for finding another way to salvage bro's shit attempt at symbolism (sorry bro but it was legit bad)
>>532252350If they knew about the hell realm they're about to be born into, they'll thank us.
>>532252350Well we treat animals like shit and they are equally as aware as babies--no, more so. Critters are a lot like kids. We have to rethink how we treat animals.
>>532251530You're a demon and your kind will be hunted to extinction soon
>>532252474They are mostly atheists because the idea that a God will judge them terrfies them.
>>532252462This is also true but really I don't even think they give them anesthetics they just rip them apart. We don't even do that to animals (well maybe the chinese and africans do).
>>532251530Fetuses are living and they are human. This is an indisputable scientific fact.However, human life is not sacred. We kill, injure, torture, enslave, rape, commit theft, against humans all the time. And many of these things are directly sanctioned by every country on Earth. Every time you buy a product from a third world country or from a company with a poor record of labour, customer, and social responsibility then you are funding these atrocities. In trible times, 80% of infant mortality was infanticide. During the age of the Romans, about 25% of infant mortality was infanticide. Whether pagan or Christian, rich or poor, all practiced infanticide.After the Roman Empire fell, anti-abortion and anti-infanticide laws were put in place, but generally never enforced. It was still common practice. It wasn't until the 1800's did societies begin to see some enforcement, but it was still common to see babies in garbage dumps, or floating down the river Thames.As we entered 1900's did such laws see any enforcement. But now, as soon as they have come into force they are now being repealed.We are returning to the natural order. The lives of fetuses and children do not matter, what matters is the life of adults. The young live by permission of the adult, they have no right to life. Only this ensures that adults can produce the greatest value for society as they can choose when and how they reproduce and allocate the appropriate resources. Abortion and infanticide (basically the same thing) also eliminate negative genes and cultural traits, thus creating stronger generations.
>>532251530same thing with ugly white dicks, they're still just the master race you niggers, so breed with them or slave away for them if you won't give them a family the rest of the whites are too repulsed by their white dicks to do
So do democrats, that's why eggs of species at a risk of extinction are illegal for you to eat.
most whites that become troons are because they have ugly white dicks that you're not supposed to be mean to them about because they're girls
Its hard to reconcile freaking out about White birthrates while also being pro-choiceBecky and stacy are indeed aborting a lot of White babies, many of which were sired by Chad
be a gentlemen and suck that ugly girl dick or you're a bigot!
>>532251530>I still fully support abortionThis is 12 weeks End of the first trimester.
>>532251614You can't feel or think.If you can, then prove to me you can.
>>532252295The fetus isn't the only ingredient in making a human. The womb, the hormones, etc. For example, if the hormones aren't at the correct level, the fetus dies. Pro-life people frequently 'forget' that the fetus doesn't grow into a human, by itself.
>>532251530because if we don’t establish this fact this is the hellscape we are heading towards. look into r3 bio
>>532252350>Can you imagine if all these babies have consciousness and we're just killing them?Yes. I know pro-life people ascribe all types of abilities to fetuses, to make them appear as if they're already a baby. But they're not babies. Pic related isn't a baby. Do you remember being in the dark waiting to be born? Does anyone remember? The ridiculous part is that you believe such thing could be true.
>>532252101>You can't even test consciousness in adult humansThen how do you know other people are conscious?
>>532253041i just don’t give a shit
>>532252617I disagree but thank you for a quality post. I contend the moral harm of infanticide would be tremendous. It would tear apart a valuable piece of man's humanity. We developed a distaste for killing because we are becoming better men. It's not a step forward to harden our hearts, but a step back!
>>532253413Because they know who they are. Testing as in pinpointing an area of the brain where consciousness originates.But somehow you believe that a fetus, months before being born, will develop conscious awareness. At the risk of sounding like a leftie, do you have any source for it?
>>532252274And the decision to throw it out should come from who?The pancake isn't cooking itself.
>>532253587https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4595376/
>>532253654The mom isn't cooking the pancake. Literally all she has to do is eat food and sleep.
If I were a woman, I'd poison my unborn baby to see if it survives my polluted body.
op have u considered the fact that maybe you arent as important as you think you are? you are gonna to die some day and you will never live again. why take someone else's right to exist?> muh 16 year old driversyou probably drive a pick up truck
>>532251530The existence of abortion effectively makes the very definition of life "Does a woman want it?", and you'll forgive me if edo not find that definition to be acceptable.
>>532253041At 13 weeks, a fetus is about the size of a lemon, measuring approximately 2.9 inches (7.4 cm) in lengthPro-life propaganda. Stating the wrong gestation week.
>>532251530I don't really care. Most people should die.
>>532253842Including you
niggers and aids hit the trade center sir
>>532253890No u.
>>532253041>12 weeksthen moot point anyway abortions don't work beyond 10 weeks tops and even then it's right at the line where the drugs lose effectivenessyou want rid of that thing you birth it or find some backstreet cutter doc to perform a surgical termination
>>532253688>https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4595376/That doesn't say what the other person claimed. 'Fetuses, months before birth, will develop conscious awareness"
>>532251530human life only has value because it has potential
>>532253910No….. (((YOU)))
>>532253919Dude I'd love to be a teen mom in a back alley abortion clinic high on black market opioids and ketamine. It would be something out of hellraiser or aliens
>>532251614>thinkThat would disqualify few billion "people" from being defined as humans
>>532253692>Literally all she has to do is eat food and sleep.No. Refrain from activities, refrain from smoking or drinking. The one you absolutely can't deny is not being able to take medication. Most meds aren't approved for pregnant women.
Democrats want you to believe picrel is a woman
>>532254000or you could take the pill/shot like a normal slutffs becky we are TIRED
>>532254094that's a judeochristian crossdresser not even a trap or troon that's literally just a jewish man in underwear holding bible quotes
>>532253569> I contend the moral harm of infanticide would be tremendous.Morality does not exist. Nature is amoral.> We developed a distaste for killing because we are becoming better men.And yet we are still killing.Those who shy away from killing are mentally ill like vegans.
>>532253987you dont have potential but you still matter
>>532251530kill yourself you fucking filthy jew.
>>532254450>Nature is amoral.Not entirely, no. You cannot convincingly make the case that nature is 100% amoral. Prove me wrong.
>>532251530More human than a jeet. Why aren't we allowed to terminate jeets anyway?
>>532253937>Numerous studies have shown that the fetus perceives sounds and reacts to them since 26th–28th week of gestation and that he has the ability to discriminate between the maternal voice and other voices, showing a marked preference to the first [1,2].Perceiving and reacting to sound, by the mechanism of the human brain. Showing preference for the voice of the mother over the voice of others.That is conscious awareness. Pop quiz, what was the name of the really popular record player back in the day? It was His Master's Voice. A dog was the mascot. Even a dog is consciously asare and will show a preference for his master's voice
BPS has a great video on why abortion is such a toxic issue in American politics. Abortion was introduced to Japan with the end of ww2. Many expecting mothers got the procedure because it was obvious that if they had the baby at that time, it would starve to death. These mothers felt terrible about it, and they still do. They erect small statues of Jizo at shrines, knit red clothes for them, and offer prayers to the unborn child, asking for its forgiveness and praying for a speedy and happier reincarnation. Now, for the part that BPS misses, if I recall correctly. In America, after Roe Vs. Wade was passed (and notice that most say it was passed, as it was legislation, not a judicial decision), a few states had a very simple idea that perhaps could've helped Americans maintain some sense of dignity in all of this. "You can have your abortion, but you must name the unborn child." That seems like a perfectly reasonable concession to me, to simply admit that something tragic has happened, that something was lost. There might have even been a good reason for why it had to be lost, but to humans who still have their dignity and some sense of moral virtue, who are not terminally online and wrapped up in this absolute fucking CESS PIT we call American politics, that acknowledgement is important. It's important to people who aren't morally evil and intellectually lazy, because to them, "virtue simply was not convenient to me at the time," is not an argument. The fact that it's a baby remains unchanged by how ugly it is or how dumb it is, how important it is for you to be a marketing executive and smash that glass ceiling. It's not an unforgivable mistake to make, though, in the face of something so terrifying that might well just turn out horribly. So, apologize to the child, name them, and wish them a bright set of wings to flutter about heaven with. Except, you pigs didn't even want to give them a goddamn name.
>>532252295>Is a fertilized egg a chicken?Definitively yes
>>532253226>fetus doesn't grow into a human, by itself.It's a human fetus lolIt doesn't "grow into a human"
>>532251530this kind of thinking is why people think circumcision is okay
>>532251530I wish your mom would have had your point of view on the matter.
>>532253041throw it in the blender
>>532255335Ask nature's opinion about extinction. You can't, it's not conscious, it does not have morality or immorality, it is amoral. And if it were conscious, it wouldn't care since everything is part of nature.
>>532251530>muh clump of cellsDon't care. In a few months it'll be an infant and you're preventing that life from being lived.The only silver lining in abortion is that whores who kill their children don't deserve to reproduce anyway.
>>532251530what is done with the babby once aborted?
Why do I go to jail for destroying the eggs of an endangered bird or turtle? Don't they know those eggs aren't a bird or turtle? Fucking idiots, all of them.
>>532251530It has all of the dna of a human and it's at the most innocent and vulnerable stage of its life. Abortion is the most evil act a human can do. It's infanticide.
>>532251530It's just christcucks that have this issue with abortion. Everyone else that's sane and measured knows that there are situations in which you simply have to abort
>>532251530the kind of women who support abortion are the same archetype of fat, mindbent goblins with colored hair and facial piercings who should never procreate. These "women" need to be shipped off to a sweaty mosquito-infested island in Canada and never allowed to leave.
>>532251530>support abortionIf you support that your, included in society.
>>532260357>not included in society.
>>532259707>These "women" need to be shipped off to a sweaty mosquito-infested island in Canada and never allowed to leave.Jamboys already have that covered.
>>532251612>depopulation crisisDepopulation is a good thing
>>532251530What is a human?
>>532251530Genesis 4:10-12God then said: What have you done? Your brother’s blood cries out to me from the ground! Now you are banned from the ground that opened its mouth to receive your brother’s blood from your hand. If you till the ground, it shall no longer give you its produce. You shall become a constant wanderer on the earth.
>>532254234No need to lie on the internet sir.
>>532251530>Debate me.irl I'll do more than that
I find the discussion whether it's a human being or conscience completely irrelevant.Kids are their parents property. And terrible human beings aborting their kids is a good thing.
>>532260492In the Netherlands whites almost never get abortions.
>>532251612>The world is being depopulated...>Let's make up for it with downies!
one of the few bill burr bits i likehttps://youtube.com/shorts/zfuBm_FjTzM
>>532254472I'm pretty sure 2WfGinX is a mundane goy.He doesn't matter. At all.
>>532260492>Kids are their parents property.lellike a clockwork orange
>>532251683niggers have nearly been population neutral for decades. they kill each other just as fast as they reproduce, so beaners became plan b for white replacement. if you could convince white savior complex leftists to only allow holy niggers the joys of abortion, i would vote for that law. but, you cant.
>>532260481that trick only works if you can delete the original post lolretard image too, got pagans and atheists slotted togetherpagans and atheists on the leftchristians and jews on the rightthe formatting is all to fuck, state of the text workone star, see me after class
it is a human beingwe kill humans all the time. we kill them on purpose, we kill them accidentally, we kill them through our negligence and inaction and disinterest.i don't give a single fuck about something that doesn't even know it's alive.
>>532251530It's already smarter than anyone still supporting Trump.
>>532260783>it is a human being>i don't give a single fuck about something that doesn't even know it's alive.make up your mind, kike
>>532253041Women in my family don't have abortions.Even when it would have been far smarter by modern moral standards, the women in my family have not had abortions.Why the fuck should I care about other trees pruning themselves?Less competition for my family.
>>532260839you think every single human being who has ever existed has at all times known that they were alive? even demented fucking grandma who has been in an induced coma for 6 years? you think she knows she's alive? even a fucking car accident potato who can't even breath for himself and is only breathing because a pump is literally pumping air into his stiff fucked up lungs?being human doesn't mean you know you're alive. shut the fuck up retard
>>532260783i golden rule this sort of thingand being that i can somewhat remember my first moments of self awareness being hours before my third birthday i don't think i'd give much of a fuck if i was deleted before thenilliterate yanks muddy the issue but abortion is a fucking pill/shot that causes reabsorption, it isn't a killing it's an ending of a processyou can't abort an actual fetus, that shit doesn't just cancelbut say abortion to an american and they imagine hooks and knives, makes one wonder how bad things really are over there
>>532260921You're talking to the kind of person who keeps an anencephalic meatpuppet alive and thanks God for blessing them with it.
>>532260921>you think every single human being who has ever existed has at all times known that they were alive?who gives a shit if they did or they didn't?>even demented fucking grandma who has been in an induced coma for 6 years?this has to do with... ?>you think she knows she's alive?OH, you're implying it's ok to kill people as long as their incapacitated, or they're just barely forming in the wombthat'd make you a child murderer, and a regular murderso basically you're jewish
>>532251530>Republicans want you to believe that this is a human beingWhat color is it?
Abortion should be paid for by the tax payer. The woman should also be sterilized in the same operation.
>>532261022It's American.
>>532260974>meanwhile>doesn't mind the rabbi chewed off his foreskinwhat an atrocity
>>532261086
>>532261003>who gives a shit if they did or they didn't?me.>OH, you're implying it's ok to kill people as long as their incapacitatedwrong.i'm saying that you don't give a fuck about eight million other far worse ways that people die, so i don't give a fuck about your crocodile tears over this one. you have zero legitimacy to claim to care and i deny your sincerity. i don't take your arguments seriously because they are a self-serving emotional cope for an issue that you are lying about.and the same is true of all anti-abortion retards.for example, you say children dying is bad and then, like all your pathetic friends, support absolutely fucking none of the very easy and effective things we could do right now to stop it.
>>532261121>well>PFF goy>since you don't care about all the OTHER PEOPLE that are actually ALIVEsays who?>that means i get to KILL CHILDREN >HAHAHAHAHA>*bloods and little bits of children's flesh dripping from his mouth*uh.. LOL
>>532261184>says who?i do. i am calling you a liar and a hypocrite and saying i don't give a shit about your opinions.
>>532261242>one guy>said somethingand yet
>>532261088I'm not circumcised you retard.Most western nations didn't look off half our dicks for a fucking cereal salesman.
so......who fucks the stork? i mean i aint beggin for no bird cunt but them long legs on that motherfucker though...
>>532261365>unadulterated ppthanks for telling me, regardless, you're a>jew of the soul
>>532251612We need depopulation. There are too many people.
>>532251530I’ve never been against abortion desu. Just obviously the left takes it to radical insanity like post-birth abortion shit. Basically should be allowed until the End of first trimester and then after that point only in the circumstance that the mother’s life is at risk. I just don’t wanna like in a world where we make women carry rapist (shitskin, jeet, nigger) babies. Also I just don’t see any social downsides. Less retarded unloved welfare (nigger) babies being born. It’s a positive at the moment. Maybe in a restored white society with different factors my opinion would change but for now in this clown world I’m pro-abortion.
