During World War II, Belarus suffered some of the most extreme atrocities of the Eastern Front under Nazi occupation (1941–1944). Nazi forces destroyed over 9,200 villages.records estimate thatevery third resident of Belarus perished during the war, with total fatalities ranging between 2.2 million and 3 million people
>>532259228Is there a list of some of these destroyed villages with articles about them? Which ones were actually wiped from the map?
>>532259228Lets talk about the world war before the first world war, the war of napoleon.
>>532259502OP won't elaborate on that because in each one of these Belarusian villages was a partisan network of communist sympathizers (jews) who committed active insurrectionist terrorist attacks on the occupying German army. Every reprisal from the Germans was just that, a reprisal, and it was done in a direct and measured way that the Belarusians wholly deserved. They should have outed the "resistance" immediately, they got what they deserve.
>>532259228Good. I hope it happens again. Maybe think twice about letting Russia attack from there.
this is why non-Germans shouldn't celebrate Hitler and the nazis. They hated you and wanted you dead.
Thats what happens in war, seems likely that some of this ultraviolence will be visited upon our anglo world soon because we have spent a century letting ourselves become weaker and weaker and weaker.
you're welcome
>>532259976this has become my new favourite topic because for all the manoeuvring and obfuscation Neo-nazis do to try and recover their ideologies optics, when the topic of Sippenhaf comes up you guys inevitably show up and say "sure we loaded 200 kids in a barn and lit it on fire...but there was probably resistance fighters operating in that area, check mate!". and suddenly the whole mask comes falling down
>>532259228Some of french ss used the word зaбpaть (zabraliser) to " clean " a partisan area.
>>532260536Israelis do the same thing, curious
>>532259976This. OP is a kike.
>>532259228If the Nazis were as bad as everyone says they were they would've won.
>>532260536I keep reading you guys quote a scene from a movie written by Russian kikes to help establish a sense of nationalism for a war that killed more Russians than every other nation in WW2 combined.But absolutely none of you are willing to acknowledge that so many Russians died because Russians wouldn't kill the communists jews that had been starving them, throwing them in Gulags, disappearing them since 1917. Instead you died with bayonets in your back fighting Germans that wanted to free you from the tyranny that destroyed your very souls. YOU GET WHAT YOU FUCKING DESERVE.
>>532261282Simple as.You don't turn the country with the greatest national debt and lowest standard of living in the Western world in the midst of the Great Depression into the Strongest nation on the planet inside 3 years without doing something right. And what they did right was shut down the kikes and give the power back to the people. Fucking ridiculous to suggest otherwise.
>>532259228And yet nothing of value was lost...
>>532259228Question for you there OP.How many times did Belarus change hands in the years between 1938 & 1945, with nationalist sympathizers for both Russia and Germany running insurgencies the whole time?
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>>532259976>NOOOOOOOO HOW DARE YOU DEFEND YOUR HOMELAND>YOU MUST BE JEWISHlmao, the fucking state of shitler worshippers
>>532262383the problem with your picture is that you are too stupid to understand that jews arent the only ones playing you Hitler sends your family to be killed in a meat grinder industrial war to capture slaves for IG faben to increase their profit margins at the expense of german workers while making it illegal for german workers to organize, and you dumb cretins act like its the heckin most based and redpilled things ever because the CEO is the same race as you therefore its based nationalism and not jewish opression. nazis are some of the most easily manipulated people on the planet. literally all it takes is some feel good platitudes about collectivism and suddenly you will sign off willingly on all of the exploitation and cruelty you accuse jews of, even subjugate others to it
>>532262954It starts with the jews you stupid cunt. If it wasn't for the kikes you wouldn't be in this once great now fucking joke of a country. Until everyone realizes and understands what the kikes math means, that it's 16 million of them or every other living thing on the planet 'because God wills it do', just keep your filthy retarded poo mouth shut.
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>>532261314> Instead you died with bayonets in your back fighting Germans that wanted to free you from the tyrannyIf by "freeing" us you mean putting us all into mass graves, then you're right.The goal of Generealplan Ost was to exterminate all Slavs and give their land to future german settlers. Everybody who denies that is either an uneducated idiot or dishonest shill.
>>532263691>goal of Generealplan OstCan we see proof of this goal, that doesn't come from the same kikes that destroyed the Christian Russian people and their spirit with 70 years of murder, brutality, propaganda and totalitarian control?The same kikes that offered up every iota of 'proof' for the holohoax, the one they've also conveniently made it illegal to question, proof that only exists as written testimony of millions of kikes that miraculously survived the supposed greatest orchestration of genocide ever?You fucking retards and your retarded hubris in the time of the internet are doing more to reawaken the genetic memory of the necessity for pogroms than Hitler ever could. Thanks.
>>532263691There's a simple fact I alluded to above that you fucking retards always manage to glass over. If the Nationalist Socialist Germans wanted to exterminate kikes, there'd be none of you left. They had 12 years to do it, and seeing as they managed to be the world's preeminent superpower during that period, pretending they couldn't have exterminated every last one of you, with the gleeful participation of ethnic Germans that had lived through the Weimar Republic, is just more kike hubris. Or what, you want us to believe you're good at hiding, that the 'good Germans' sheltered you?The fucking idea is retarded. But don't worry. You'll see.
>>532264101Hitler was inspired by what Americans (europeans settlers) did to native Americans (called "indians" at that time), how native american population was eradicated and replaced by whites in "manifest destiny". He wanted to do the exactly same thing in Eastern Europe, he even called us Slavs "indians" in private converastions.
>>532259502you're kind of saying that as if Germany didn't send the most deplorable sadistic child rapist who was considered too extreme by most SS to Belarus... but ok?
>>532259976>muttposting
>>532264355Yeah, can we see these private correspondence?If you're too fucking stupid to understand that the ethnic cleansing that's been going on in Eastern Ukraine for the last 12 years played out in Belarus and all the Baltic states under the blood soaked lens of World War II, with the rule of the land changing from fascist to communist not once, not twice, but three times, and that every change of hands would have had the native population enacting bloodier and more viscous reprisals against their neighbors, you're too fucking stupid to be on the internet at all.But then again, you're czech. You people are still fucked up from having all those natural blond haired blue eyed German genetics getting raped and pillaged out of you under the iron curtain. Your minds were definitely broken, along with your natural loyalties.
>>532259228not only belarus, also 7million ukranians died.
>>532264672What about Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia?And why aren't you talking about the fact that most of them were killed by their fellow country men as reprisals for previous wrongs?Tail as old as time.
>>532259502No. They're like the abbo tribes and their little fake countries down here, all made up and based on oral histories and language that had little more than hundreds of words.
>>532260536Atrocities did happen and the fact they are in German records shows somebody was keeping track of it and the Wehrmacht executed soldiers right up to the end.The problem is the mingling of fact and feelings. Usually by describing a horrific massacre and then jumping to general numbers.But the Eastern front was never clear cut. There was intra- inter-violence between ethnicities constantly and then people like to blame Germans, because Germans love to take on all the guilt.There were terrible atrocities in the Balkan Wars before WWI and after the fall of the Soviet Union you had violence erupt again.So even without Germans there, there is always massacre there.>>532263691>Generealplan OstThis is another example. The term implies there was a laid out plan, but it's intellectuals throwing some concepts together as evidence after the fact.
>>532264760yeah always said it, most who suffered during nazi germany wer infact also anti russian people.
>>532264662> But then again, you're czech. Exactly, you hate Slavs just like Hitler did. You are trying to hide that face by increasingly convoluted rethorics, but your only goal is to make us less alert to the danger that Germans pose in order to exterminate us easier. The fact reamins, that not just Hitler, but all Germans wished for the extermination of Slavs so they could steal our land. And not just 80 years ago, but that sentiment still exists today, they just learned to hide it better. I know for a fact that Germans still talk about Slavs as subhumans ripe for extermination in private conversations.
>>532264978Quit crying you mongolian rape baby, 100 years ago that was the standard method of war on both sides because they hated each other and didn't have pussyfied feminine sensibilities about how peoples' feelings might be hurt, as you can see by how slavs did exactly the same type of thing when it was their turn to invade countries
>>532265167> slavs did exactly the same type of thing when it was their turn to invade countriesI wish we tried to exterminate Germans, but our leaders were too weak for that.
>>532259228That's what happens when you do false surrenders.No need to colaborate once you've risen the white flag, but you must obey to the surrender terms you accepted or the surrener is voided.
>>532264978>The fact reamins, that not just Hitler, but all Germans wished for the extermination of Slavs so they could steal our land.Of course that's another meme:>steal German land>Germans want back to the Reich>accuse Germans of stealingEastern Europe has been cleansed of Germans who have been there for centuries, contributing and helping to build it up. That memory has been completely wiped out.And by the way, Czechs are the closest to Germans genetically.
>>532259228East Slavs were living like cattle when the Wehrmacht arrived. The Germans did them a favor for wiping those 3rd world villages off the map...forcing them to rebuild. Imagine being a 20 year old from Bavaria walking into Ukraine or Belarus and seeing blond White people living like african subhumans. Pathetic.>>532260432This
>>532265230>I wish we tried to exterminate GermansSoviets did exterminate ethnic Germans in captured territories just not necessarily in Germany itself
>>532263691>Everybody who denies that is either an uneducated idiot or dishonest shill.Learning post-war black propaganda by heart does not make you educated. We've all been there.
>>532259976I knew it would be jews before opening the thread
>>532259228soviet propaganda.
>>532264300The kikes will never openly admit that the Havaara Agreement was concensual, was meant to merely transfer the money of kikes into a currency of their choice so their INFLUENCE was removed from the german economy (kikes love to put overemphasis on this part to make it insinuate their literal existence was the crux of the issue, not the influence of their wealth), AND it was the kikes themselves who tried to cheat themselves out of the agreement by demanding, after signing to the terms, that the transfer payments be done in installements subject to interest, which would have defeated the point of the agreement in the first place since it would have made it a debt to Jews rather than a 1 for 1 proper transfer.Basically ww2 and germany happened because kikes couldnt help but try to swindle others in a fair deal that was already set in stone. And they dragged the whole world into war so they wouldnt have to repay, and even get way more in the form of "reparation".
>>532264848problem with nazis is that its an ideological Frankenstein of extreme chauvinism and nietzschean "master morality" mindset and social Darwinism, and extreme cruelty and atrocities are hard coded into it. we arent talking about sporadic atrocities, were talking about systematic and deliberate cruelty on a huge scale. basically an entire advanced industrial society hijacked and devoted to producing cruelty and atrocities. being a true nazi is basically admitting you are a deranged sociopath. atrocities happen everywhere but there is something uniquely evil about being ideologically devoted to atrocity the way the nazis are
>>532266089>Basically ww2 and germany happened because sorry but this whole headcanon thing about "why the war happened" doesnt really work when we have hitler literally writting a book describing how and why he plans on carrying out large scale conquest in Europeww2 happened because hitlers entire belief system was built on attacking other europeans and taking their resources so Germany could operate more independently. this is objectively the only correct answer as its the explanation literally given by Hitler himself, there isnt really any room for speculation here
>>532266154Yes, that is why Hitler started to praise his rise to power as a bloodless revolution and imprisoned some 40.000 political prisoners in concentration camps.Meanwhile there are millions slaughtered under the communists.Same thing for the Italian fascists. They didn't start mass murdering as well.So, you can get sucked up in some debauched ideologue writing back then, but what does that mean? It certainly wasn't expressed in the regime.When they tried euthanizing retards the outrage of a bishop was enough to halt it. Try that in the Soviet Union!
>>532266154>were talking about systematic and deliberate cruelty on a huge scale. basically an entire advanced industrial society hijacked and devoted to producing cruelty and atrocitiesWhat the fuck is this retard even talking about
>>532266305>sorry but this whole headcanon thing about "why the war happened" doesnt really work when we have hitler literally writting a book describing how and why he plans on carrying out large scale conquest in EuropeThat's ridiculous. Nothing Hitler does after coming to power would align with his previous writing.This is one of the dumbest arguments and it shows how desperate historians are to keep up the narrative of German guilt.Because nothing in Hitler's book would explain or even predict his actions in 1939. Except if you argue Hitler was a super brain playing 4D chess with Stalin by agreeing to an alliance, because he always had that in mind.Well, one thing is in his book. His admiration of Great Britain.
>>532266912>Nothing Hitler does after coming to power would align with his previous writing.are you serious dude? everything largely played out almost identical to how he described. the entire plan he layed out was to establish economic salutary then begin a campaign for aggressive territorial expantion, particularly aimed at the rest of central europe and europe from germany to the uralshitler literally did all of this
>>532267151*economic autarky
>>532266769the aggressive territorial expansion plunging everyone around them into war, the holocaust, the mass implementation of slavery of other white people, the Sippenhaf atrocities, Aktion T4, the plethora of extreme authoritatian enforcement an assorted warcrimes. there is no shortage of examples of extreme systematic cruelty
>>532266623i mean, i do believe communists were also uniquely evil on the level of the nazis. but sayign "but the communists killed millions!" doesnt really mean anything here. the nazis also exterminated millions of people and that doesn't even include the people who died because of hitlers imperialist ambitions playing whataboutism about communism doesnt magically make nazis good
>>532267316>the aggressive territorial expansion plunging everyone around them into warSuccessful conquest is not evil>the mass implementation of slavery of other white people???>the plethora of extreme authoritatian enforcement an assorted warcrimes. there is no shortage of examples of extreme systematic crueltyThe same can be said for everyone else to an even greater extent but it's okay when slavs and anglos do it because....
>>532259228> wild guessing with numbers provided by totalitarian Communist terror regimeHow many perished between 1917 and 1940 during Stalin's terror regime?
>>532259228Why would nazi attack belarus? Was belarus like majority?
>>532260536That's a movie. Like holocaust. You are not redeem pajeet.
if u think now our relationship with the western europe is better go visit germany they would split at you if they could if they know you are a slav
>>532259228>muh villagesFucking Commies burnt down all the villages during their retreat so the invading Germans couldn't supply themselves from them and find shelter in the winter. After the war they made up stories about how the Germans destroyed the villages. And all their clownish ridiculous fairytales. But Russians are so dumb and delusional that they believe it to this day.
>>532268193btw, poles had the highest ratio of civilian casualties among eastern european countriesduring the war poland lost 6 mln people, 90% were civilians, in comparison 65% of ussr casualties were civilians
>>532267799>Successful conquest is not evillol ok well the nazis were not successful so...>???lol how is it that the nazi sympathizers seem to to know the least about nazis germanythe nazis ran one of the largest slave labour programs in human history with literally 10s of millions of people pressed into forced labour, virtually all other white people. at its peak 20% of the German workforce was slaves
>>532268462>lol ok well the nazis were not successful so...The initial movements through france and poland were, which is what you were crying about>lol how is it that the nazi sympathizers seem to to know the least about nazis germanyI'm not a nazi sympathizer I just don't have a feminine worldview where you have "good guys" and "bad guys" and the Germans were oh so evil le atrocities... the same shit everyone else was doing but fags like you single out Germany because they lost the war and it's an easy target to deflect from anything allies did wrong.>slave labourright...
>>532267151That isn't even what happened. How are the peace and trade proposals anything you would have inferred from Mein Kampf?Except if you call them a ruse, which means you can't apply his writing from 15 years before, because that's not in there.>>532267421You're missing the main point. The communists are the main driver in this story, because everyone had heard about their atrocities. The whole of fascism is viewing itself as the opposition to communism.If you don't know that or keep that in mind, than you've don't know how to evaluate the politics of the time and all your mentions of how brutal the national socialists were is just the propaganda you've been told.That's also why you swallow the narrative about Hitler having played this out. You really view him as the driver of the story.That's not a balanced picture. It's a cartoon.
>>532259228that's why westoids and germs will be destroyed and raped soon once amerimutts leave eurocucks
>>532268639>, which is what you were crying abouthuh? >rightwhat are you trying to say exactly? that you have no argument so youre just going to arbitrarily deny it ever happened even though it was practised openly? >I just don't have a feminine worldviewright, its "feminine world view" is when you think burning kids alive for collective punishment is bad. so basically youre an over tpsychopath. why not just say that straight up instead of beating around the bush?
>>532268904>what are you trying to say exactly?You're just making shit up like the gay little fag you are, arguing in bad faith is what you get paid to do
>>532267316>the mass implementation of slavery of other white people>>532268462>the nazis ran one of the largest slave labour programs in human history with literally 10s of millions of people pressed into forced labour, virtually all other white people. at its peak 20% of the German workforce was slavesNow explain to me how bringing millions of foreigners into the Reich with all the women folk there and sending Germans out to die on the battlefield aligns with Hitler's grand vision from the 1920s?
>>532268732you are struggeling to even take ukraine buddy
>>532269065btw, in modern ukrainian war civilian casualties are less than 1% of totalso you cant compare it
>>532259228Germans are human robots bred specifically to obey their superiors and follow every order to the letter. In peace times it's not a huge deal, in war however... you get the idea.
humans are such monsters
>>532269065Russia used maybe 7% of their military capabilities in hoholistan
>>532268684>That isn't even what happenedyes it is. rearmament. The four year plan. annexing the germanic states in central europe, then then the main course: war with the soviet union, which could only be carried out through poland as hitler notes all of this was written about by hitler as literally the central goal of national socialism and all of it was carried out by hitler when he came to power at best you can argue that hitler was delusional and thought he could just chimp out and take everyones hit without oppoisition,b ut the fact is that war against europe was his plan from the beginning and he attempted to carry out that plan when he came to power >because everyone had heard about their atrocities. The whole of fascism is viewing itself as the opposition to communism.so? this this literally meaningless. what point do you think you are making exactly? >all your mentions of how brutal the national socialists were is just the propaganda right. so you accuse me of "not having a balanced picture of things" then in the same breath just arbitrarily hand wave away literally everything that transpired which is inconvenient to the narrative you are manufacturing please just tell me straight up; is there even a point in me talking to you and having any kind of good faith discourse on this topic or are you just going to go "actually in my headcanon that didnt happen" over and over again
>>532269388holy cope
>decimate the population of the whitest country in the entire world>pol cheers this on This is why you'll always be pathetic degenerates. Imagine seeing picrelated and thinking "I must lock them up in their house and burn them down"
>>532268958lol how could you possibly accuse me of "arguing in bad faith" while your entire argument is "uuuh,..that didnt happen because i said so!"
>>532268991that would be the part where he explains the central goal of national socialism was to attack other nations and exploit their land and resources and people to establish German economic independence
>>532259228>9200 villagesIs this the latest trend on pol? To just make shit up? Totally believeable number. Let me guess, 6 million belarussians died. Along side 6 million baltics ukies and others. (must always be 6 million) just so the hecking nazis did le evil thing
>>532269692the central premise of your post seems to be that it is somehow absurd and unbelievable that people openly ideologically bent on attacking and colonizing the region with their own people committed atrocities against the people living therewhat exactly about this do you find absurd and unbelievable?
>>532259228At it is still hasn’t surrendered and had the biggest partisan movement. Compare it to 12 million german nazi soldiers surrendered and handing their country to the enemy without even hint of further occupation resistance. Tells you everything.
>>532269850>absurd and unbelievableyes. Just like the holocaust. Completely made up numbers>what exactly about this do you find absurd and unbelievable?the ridiculous numberscan you read nigger?
>>532269908whats ridiculous about the numbers though?
>>532269602Your entire argument is "uuuh,..that did happen because i said so!" Checkmate jeet
I was a SS solider in Belarus before this life and I enjoyed it every second
>>532269978no it isnt?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_labour_under_German_rule_during_World_War_II
>>532269886Germans are notorious cowards. They can fight only against women and children.
>>532270038>forced labourOh, that thing that literally every other country was doing too, so I guess it's nothing like I said already
>>532270044it took a few knife attacks for muslims to buckbreak the whole country
>>532270266>Oh, that thing that literally every other country was doing too, not really the way the germans were doing it, no. the allies used some pows for labour at times but they weren't attacking other nations explicitly to deport entire populations to use as slave labour like the Germans were, aside from the communists, who as i said, were in my books on the same level of evil as the nazis
>>532269403>at best you can argue that hitler was delusional and thought he could just chimp out and take everyones hit without oppoisition,b ut the fact is that war against europe was his plan from the beginning and he attempted to carry out that plan when he came to powerNone of this would explain his diplomatic offerings or the building up of defenses against the Western and the Eastern front.You must conclude he was bluffing all the time, because you can't look at the state of the Wehrmacht and take your claims of conquest serious.But that then brings up the question how he thought he would achieve these through war? You either think him very dumb or absolute delusional.>so? this this literally meaningless. what point do you think you are making exactly?You've put the ideology and brutality of the fascists up front and you make an ideological claim because you build your case on a book Hitler wrote in the 1920s.If you can't see fascism as a reaction - you can hardly argue against this, because of the timeline - then you are falling prey to the narrative that puts all of the blame for the war on one neat ideological and when needed ethnic side. It's comic book history you're repeating.>is there even a point in me talking to you and having any kind of good faith discourseAre you already preparing your exit?
>>532269636And where does he write about placing Germans outside the Reich and bringing millions of foreign men into it?Can you point us to that part?
>>532271096>what is Lebensraum and "Ostorientierung oder Ostpolitik"Shouldn't have fallen asleep during history lessons, Ronny
