>>532287778Surprisingly not in Canada. They say it's illegal to use it. But I'm pretty sure a woman wouldn't get punished in court for defending herself. At the end of the day you do whatever you need to to defend yourself and ask questions later. I bought this for my wife for when she's walking in and out of work. Because of Bill c-75 they basically rendered police officers jobs completely useless because they just catch and release everybody. So Canada is not safe to walk around. I wouldn't even bring my kids downtown these days. Too many bums and too many criminals and too many drug addicts. this is what the Liberals do.
That's a device is a weapon of hate crimes.
God I hate canadians.
>>532295373of course its illegal. remember when there was an active serial rapist on the UBC campus and the RCMP wouldn't allow girls to carry pepper spray?this is the slave camp we live ina state that deprives its law-abidingcitizens of the means to effectivelydefend themselves is not civilizedbut barbarous, becoming an ac-complice of murderers, rapists, andthugs and revealing its totalitariannature by its tacit admission thatthe disorganized, random havoccreated by criminals is far less a threatthan are men and women who be-lieve themselves free and indepen-dent, and act accordingly
>>532295373What is this mace? I asked police what happens if someone breaks into my house and I beat them and they bascially just told me, at least leave him breathing and you're fine.
>>532295373>illegal to defend your selflmao
>>532296373not technically. its just illegal to ever think about defending yourself at any moment prior to having to defend yourself.
>>532295373Don't give these to the women you care about. It gives them a dangerous, completely false sense of security. I have sprayed military grade stuff into the mouth and eyes of a crazed crackhead and he barely blinked.Also, there is a famous video from last year, in Brazil, where a woman in her twenties sprayed an assailant and the sprayed guy instantly took a 38 out of his waistband and shot her forehead point blank.Don't give sprays to the women you love. If you already did, take them away. That's what I did. Take them away.
>>532298385listen to the brazilian OP. this man is talking to your from a world of experience you can't understand. be humble and listen
>>532295373Motherfuckers get blasted with bear spray all the time. The charges only seem to come if it was used to incapacitate someone in order to commit further crime, like robbery, against them.The google machine says it's only 50% stronger than mace, but that's bullshit. If you hit someone with bear spray, they are absolutely going to the hospital.
>>532295373Now do guns faggot...
>>532299016Thanks, Israelibro. I am trying to help anons in this one
>>532295373This is dog spray not self defense grade pepper spray, it's significantly weaker but better than nothing. It may or may not be legal to carry depending on the arresting officer and your choice of words. If the court upholds the charges you are basically in life ruined territory. Prohibited weapons carry prison time and lifetime weapon bans, and no, you just need to be in possession of it, not use it.
>>532299374>If you hit someone with bear spray, they are absolutely going to the hospital.But that's not the point. At least that's not my point. The sprayed criminal may go to the hospital an hour later, but maces do not instantly stop unjust agressors. They just don't. Therefore you are, in effect, simply further enraging a potentially homicidal man with a gun or a knife.Take the mace away from the women you love.
>>532301366t.rapist
>>532301633Ok, keep your faggot mace and hope for the best. It actually increases the odds of you being murdered.My women do not mess with such retarded, cucked contraptions. I actually taught them the reality about these.
>>532299374>If you hit someone with bear spray, they are absolutely going to the hospital.Lmao no, retard I got a puncture in my bear spray on a camping trip and sprayed the fuck out of my t-zone, you just wash it off, where I got it soaked into clothing it stayed for days and was very difficult to wash out, it ruined an hour, maybe an hour and a half.
>>532299381I mean if you were under fire at home of whatever and cannot escape, you'd be allowed to use your firearms to defend yourself.
>>532295373Any country that says it's illegal to defend yourself is a fake lawless country and you should break any rule and defend yourself anyway.
>>532302037you taught them to just pull their dresses off an spread legs?
>>532302297yes >>532295595
>>532302193>you'd be allowed to use your firearms to defend yourself.How are you supposed to do that when your guns are now illegal leaf?Reminder....turn em in.
If I have a daughter I will teach her how to use a pistol, switchblade, mace, taser, covert bludgeon weapon that looks like an ordinary item, armor plates and brass knuckles (backup).
>>532302193Not exactly there are several considerations which will be taken into account. For instance the cops will need to be able to reliably recreate your series of events which allowed you to access the firearm, ammo, and load it in time to respond to the assault. The firearm being readily available (cleaning it for example) is only one factor, why did you have a loaded magazine in the middle of the night? Does your timeline of unlocking the firearm, ammo, and loading said ammo line up with what CCTV footage may have captured? If not you will still be facing numerous weapon related charges at the very least even if you were justified. You will certainly be losing your guns and hundreds of thousands in lawyer fees.
>>532302890this. 'safe storage' laws are only about keeping criminals safe
>>532302431No, I taught them that a firearm, or an inconspicuous, locking blade pocket knife at least gives them a chance to get off an unfair violent encounter.And that cuck maces actually increase the violence against their wieldersBut I am talking with Canadians, the most cucked nation on planet Earth, the ground zero for the most heinous human population experiments. So hang on to your mace, fag
>>532295466Me too.
>>532295373> At the end of the day you do whatever you need to to defend yourself and ask questions later.Damn right, especially since Canada is filled with rape rats from India.
>>532303379A knife is not a defensive tool and probably the worst possible option, far below OC spray.>Gun > OC Spray >Taser gun >>>>> everything else
>>532303379i just think that a rapist, such as yourself, would rather try to grapple a knife from a weak female hand instead of deal with a bear spray deployed from 8ft away. i see you rapist. obviously id rather have my wife carry a .45 and be ready to fire it at some fucker messing with her but, as you say, this is a monumentally cucked place to live
>>532303720That's the last time I will reply to a Canadicuck. The purpose of a self defense weapon is to instantly stop the unjust agression. The fate of the agressor is meaningless. It doesn't matter if he will die later on or, as some Cucknadian said itt, end up in the hospital. The purpose is to stop the unfair agression.And maces don't do that. They just don't
>>532295373You can get away with this if you say you carry it for coyotes. You can also legally own a Byrna or other rubber bullet compressed air gun under 500fps for home defense.Problem with Canada is youre not allowed to carry ANYTHING for self defense, not so much as a fucking roll of quarters. Everything you use as a weapon in self-defence, you have to prove you were carrying for other reasons.Nobody likes or agrees with this law, even most cops and judges will tell you how to defend yourself in court against it.
>>532304178Just carry a sock full of quarters and say you were on your way to the Laundromat
>>532304032That's exactly why it is terrible, it's called "stopping power" in the business, and a knife has zero. Mortal wounds with a knife can take many hours to finally kill an attacker. Incredibly easy to be disarmed and requires direct contact with an attacker you are assuming will not be armed with a brick or a knife themselves. It's purely an offensive weapon, you are not defending yourself with one reliably.
Why arent we focusing our energy on lawmakers?
>>532304178yeah, its total and utter bullshit. those being attacked shouldnt have to worry about inventing lies to tell teh fucking government to defend themselves when the government comes looking to jail them for fighting of attacker.its completely and obviously backwards.
>>532304340A stab in the neck is well known, and pretty much guaranteed, to cease most attacks
>>532304418We need to attack the legal system before we can deal with the criminals.We need to stop bitching and start lobbying.
You're better off giving the robber what he wants, than being fucked over by the state and sent to prison for killing him
>>532304504And you are going to be able to coordinate all of that under extreme pressure while being attacked by a much larger individual potentially already caving your head in? It's a bad idea dude, end the fight before it starts from a distance.
>>532304504this is clearly a rapist advocating for women to try using knives on attackers instead of venting pepper spray in their faces and running away
>>532295373Using this is absolutely illegal in Canada. In Canada it is unlawful to carry ANY weapon for ANY purpose.>What counts as a weaponANY object that you intend to use violently against any other person, regardless if it's in defense of yourself.So if you're carrying a pair of chopsticks and a cop asks you why you're carrying it, if you tell him it's for self defense, you've committed a crime in Canada.Since pepper spray has no functional use besides spraying someone, you cannot convince a cop that it's not a weapon, similar to walking around with a gun.This is how laws work in liberal countries.
There is literally nothing wrong with choosing your life over a random attacker's. We need to start treating the people who say otherwise as random attackers.
>>532295373that stuff wont cause permanent blindness to your attacker, better off using some caustic chemicals that will disfigure and maim them for life
>>532304925pretty much. here you can get away with bear spray if you so any kind of hiking etc, but thats about it. such cucked laws man, its unbelievable.
>>532305098>so anon, just why were you carrying half a liter of acid in your pocket at the time of the attack?just dont get caught i guess
>>532304925>Since pepper spray has no functional use besides spraying someone, you cannot convince a cop that it's not a weapon, similar to walking around with a gun.You forgot an important caveat. You're allowed to carry a weapon to be used on animals. Thats why you don't see a lot of hoodlums in bear country. Coyotes or even people walking big dogs in the area can give you enough excuse to carry pepper spray.
>>532305175What's worse is how vague the laws are deliberately written. The laws in Canada basically give 100% discretionary power to the cops and judges. If a cop doesn't like you, he can basically arrest you for completely benign items like Swiss Army knives.
>>532305284>You're allowed to carry a weapon to be used on animalsThe laws give cops 100% discretionary power. A woman walking around downtown will not convince a cop that the mace is for animals. Now, whether a cop actually gives a shit is another matter. Pretty much every cop I've interacted with has been chill but they do have the legal authority to fuck you over if they want.
>>532305465This 100%. The officer at the scene can determine and infer intent regardless of what you communicate to them and lay charges against you. At this point you've already lost and are going to jail followed by a lengthy legal battle.
>>532305733>regardless of what you communicate to them an"Everything you say CAN and WILL be used against you"
>>532305831That includes saying nothing. Once the charges are laid it's a matter of the courts.
>>532305949>That includes saying nothing.>"Absence of evidence, is not evidence of absence"Damned if you do, damned if you don't - its almost like the game is rigged...
>>532305465Of course, which is why the most important thing is to CHANGE THE FUCKING LAWS. Most judges and cops will actually take your side nearly every time if you live in a crime ridden city because they're just as sick of this shit as the rest of us. Of course what we REALLY need to do is galvanize against any further degradation of our standard of living. They're scared shitless of that and rightfully so because the root of the problem is our whole country being sold out.
>>532306220Of course it is. Canadian laws are setup in such a way that if they want you they will get you on some kind of technicality.
>>532305326might be ok if they weren't all diversity hire trannies that hat ewhite people
Reminder even our silly flimsy cucked self defense standards were good enough under the higher trust society we had just decades ago.
>>532306440yep, your best move is playing dumb as fuck and being ignorant as fuck
>>532306467They were never exercised, completely different than "good enough" back in the day. Now that the average Canadian can find themselves in a situation where even the most basic need for self defense is outlawed they are quickly understanding that they never had appropriate rights in the first place. They lull you into a false sense of security until one day you wake up with NOTHING.
>>532306812Believe it or not there have been entire stretches of years where the government wasnt trying to crash the ship with no survivors. Regardless of always having shit rights in general we literally made it this far with a good productive wealthy low crime country then it went to utter shit.
>>532306467Well those laws weren't really needed when Canada was a high trust society. But because of certain demographic changes, those laws are no longer suited to our New Canada™. It's like how there are no laws against taking food from a food bank when you don't need to. Now those laws are needed.
>>532307144More or less. Don't forget there were plenty of high profile individually who could have had their sprees cut short by picking the wrong person on the street. Our prior success can only be attributed to luck, which was largely in our favour.
>>532307164And we finally come around to the real problem, and it should be the first and only discussion we have around here until we fix it. They have our faces pressed into trees while the whole forest needs to burn.
How many of you have a predominantly immigrant area that contributes most of the crime to a nearby major metropolitan area, but aren't included in that major metropolitan area's crime statistics?
>>532308018sounds like a conspiracy theory
