I'm actually starting to get super annoyed that the United States continues to operate ancient relics in modern combat, putting our pilots and soldiers in even more danger. I would find it insulting if I were Iranians.Why doesn't the US use modern exclusive technology that isn't meant for exports (like the F-22 instead of the 35) to fight?
>>532304227Too expensive to lose
They don't want Israel to steal a F-22 and sell it to china.
>>532304227You tell me, ameriburger. Why are you losing so many aircraft?
>>532304227Imagine the izzat loss when Iran downs a f22
>>532304227Because they're too expensive and take too long to build
>>532304227>>532304273>>532304360>>532304471>>532304498muttmerica don't have the logistical and manufacture capacity to use the best... simple as
>>532304227Because stealth planes cant carry enough bombs or dont have the range
>>532304360How many manned aircraft have been shot down?
>>532304227the F-15 is fine, the problem is you keep sending women and nigger pilots in them
>>532304227go fuck the goats achmed
>>532304227F-22 is 30 years old, how is that not also a relic?
>>532304227F-22 is unfortunetaly technology that came at wrong moment, like B-2. All the tooling was scrapped, there was also transition period in 80s/90s with CAD technology. It's a mess and a victim of chaos. >>532304721That's relatively young, B-52 is 70 years old, same for KC-135. Warthog is old too. F-15/Apache/Chinooks also are "old".t. works for US MIC
>>532305019*political chaosIt's like with E7
Meanwhile China is mass producing billions of tiny lethal kamikaze drones that will absolutely fuck us over
>>532304227zogbots deserve nothing but to become fertilizer for the iranian land they invaded
>>532305187Sad but trvke
>>532304721F22 was the last fighter jet designed by white engineersThat's why it still mogs the much newer f35dei
Do what you can with the least amount of tech... Ramp up as needed. - Gas Station Nigga Wisdom
>>5323046064 shot down and 3 damaged in-flight I believe?oh wait I forgot about the A10. So 5 shot down.
>>532305462also forgot about the helicopter that was struck today.So 4 damaged in-flight.
>>532304227Because the retard that runs the DOD is too busy firing anyone that dares tell him he is in fact a retard.
>>532304227Retard, the F-15 Strike Eagle is cheap to operate, has massive all-weather payload, range, and cruising speed/ceiling.Why waste flight hours with expensive stealth aircraft and even more expensive standoff weapons when you can load up a 3 ship of Strike Eagles with JDAMs and achieve the same result considering the lack of an air defense net?
>>532304579modern MIC garbage is a jobs program for americans and allies. winning wars is not a priority when it comes to making these things
>>532304227>starting to get super annoyedAren't you starting to get nervous that your country attacked another country for no reason?You must be a total imbecile.
If an f22 is too valuable to send into combat then what is the point of it?
>>532305884Gdp line go up?
This "topic" and all its 24 replies = a perfect textbook example of /pol/'s collective IQ
the military probably really thought that we destroyed all their shit lol
>>532304606Less than during training exercises.It's surprising that so little damage has been done.
>>532304227It's a time tested military strategy since forever to withhold your strongest units until they are needed. In the modern age we're talking about hardware rather than veteran melee fighters, but the concept still applies. Even all the brown people that love Iran were bragging about how smart they were to start launching their oldest missiles first and save the better ones for when the Israeli interceptors were exhausted.
>>532306021>It's a time tested military strategy since forever to withhold your strongest units until they are needed.you went through at least 30% of your total stockpiles of stand-off munitions in under a month.Not to mention what's left of THAAD.
>>532306444Are you trying to disagree with me or just tossing out non sequitors for fun?
>>532304227f15s are more plentiful and easier to replace than the stealth aircraftthe A10s and AWACs we lose are bummers. we can't replace those.
>>532306581We can't replace shit. No tungsten and no galium. China calls the shots on how far this goes
>>53230472120. First production F-22 entered service in 06. A large part of the 187 in service are getting a block upgrade right now. The F-15E's are still in their service life cycle, but They are getting supplemented with the new F-15EX
>>532306517You literally dumped your strongest missiles and units at Iran on day 1.Whilst also posturing that this is just a minor war and China is the real adversary you're looking to fight.>until they are neededThey'd be needed later than day 1, most likely. Especially if Iran is as weak as you claim it to be.
>>532306581They're scheduled to be replaced after next year. They are cool and it is sad, but it's also nice that they're being used one last time before retirement.
>>532306842That's also a valid military strategy. Do you think there is only one strategy?
>>532306892>Blowing your load early is a valid military strategyThis is why they call you brown.
>>532305759>considering the lack of an air defense net?didn't two planes get shot down today?
>>532307013Shock and awe? The purpose was obviously to push them to the negotiating table. It didn't work and now we're throwing all our old hardware at them first. Plans change over time. You're quite the tactician, I see.
>>532307041Occasionally deployed MANPADS are not an air defense network.
>>532304721Those F-22 air frames were rated for 8000 hours. They are getting very close to end-of-life without a life extension program.
>Why doesn't the US use modern exclusive technology that isn't meant for exports (like the F-22 instead of the 35) to fight?F-22 is for shooting down enemy aircraft. F-35 is for air strikes. Enemy has no aircraft, only shit tons of missiles and drones.
>>532307127>and now we're throwing all our old hardware at them firstYou can view CENTCOPE's own chart and see that you're still using B2's and RQ-180s, and I believe the U2 as well?
>>532307544Well since you're the tactical genius I guess the US should be hiring you.
>>532304227F15e is a strike aircraft. It can carry WAY more payload than a f35.An F15e is more of a Bomber than a fighter Jet like f35 or f22.There is no modern Remplacement for the F15e.
>>532305357F-35 program got congress fucked because the marines and euro's needed the B variant. If congress could have just funded the A and C as one program and the B separately it would have been better, but that's another story. The F-35 isn't bad, it's just not quite as good as it could have been for the money. Over the last couple of years it has absolutely curb stomped S-300/400 series AA and derivatives.
>>532305357An f22 also costs like 10x more than a f35 you absolute mutt
>>532307602>They're worthless so we're just trying out new shit>Also we're only throwing old shit at them because we don't want to risk losing new shitAny retard can pierce through this cognitive dissonance in under 3 seconds, anon.In reality it's because the big bad american war machine is slow as fuck in ramping up logistically, and nothing was prepared here.
>>532304227Because the us is incapable of making a new plane or ship. The old whit engineers have died off or retired, the manufacturing base has gone offshore, and the legacy companies exist in a perpetual state of rent seeking to milk out profits from the contracting process. Stealth is a meme, the f35 a deathtrap, and we would have been better off slapping modern radar and computers into a new run of f15s. F22 was the last good fighter, designed nearly 40 years ago, and we shall not see another.
>>532308253Thats what you get for supporting Israel. MIGA!
>>532304227I don't understand what "ancient relics" you are talking about. Is an example of one hiding behind the strike eagle in the image you posted, OP?
>>532305759>lack of an air defense netdebatable assertion
