A lot of government employees are going to have to be force majeured, at all levels of government, to cut back on their very lavish retirement and medical packages. A government "worker" can retire usually after 25 years on the job with a full pension. So start at age 25, retire at 50, and collect generous retirement benefits and medical benefits for another 30 years. And some of these government employees are drawing six figure pensions, quite a few of them in fact. There is no way the US can afford this, at the federal level, the state level, and municipal levels.These government sponges were overpromised and eventually the hard truth will have to dawn on the government and on them. Of course the government will only start slashing government pensions when there's no other option left, so until they get that desperate, expect the tax donkey public to have to shoulder a much, much higher tax burden for quite a while as these pensions start to kick in. These extreme government pensions really began to be promised just 15-20 years ago. Before that, government pensions were nice but not obscenely awesome (and obscenely onerous for taxpayers). So we haven't even reached the point where the people first hired under these unsustainable retirement regimes have begun to retire. Wait until the first wave of these ultra-lavish retirements kicks in after another decade or so, and then we'll get a taste of what that tax burden will be like to carry, and of course that first wave of retirees is just a taste of what's to come as the next decades of government hires begin their retirements. Were it up to me, I'd be cutting back the government pensions right away, as the first order of business for getting this country back in shape and on some kind of sound fiscal footing. Of course, the government sponges would scream and make a mess, downright sabotaging government operations as a form of protest/a way to express their disapproval of the (necessary) changes.
>>532312415>I'd be cutting back the government pensions right awayNot even the president would get one.
So, how to manage the revolt that government workers, now disappointed, would initiate?Send them to concentration camps/gulags, which are the same thing (labor camps). Let them learn what an honest day's work is by working them, hard labor, for 14 hours per day six days a week, like miners in Britain had to do in the early 1800s. (I recall seeing a documentary about the early Industrial Revolution in Britain and how miners at some companies worked all but three days off per year, which we Christmas, Easter, and some other day that I forget, and they worked 12 hours shifts for those 362 days per year.)Real work changes people. It teaches them what's actually required to keep civilization running: loads of hard work. The hardness of the work that it takes to build a civilization, especially an advanced civilization like an industrial one, is why so many cultures remained so primitive for thousands and even tens of thousands of years. It took a lot of persuasion and compulsion to create the work ethic that goes beyond simple farming like horticulture or that goes beyond a nomadic pastoral existence like that of the Plains Indians in North America and of the Bedouin in the Arabian and Saharan deserts. Whole societies will just do the minimum for centuries, millennia, and tens of millennia, never advancing, just muddling through because it's easier. A work ethic requires compulsion: force. You instill a work ethic in children by forcing them to work, like do chores or get a job as teens. You instill the work ethic into primitive cultures by either enslaving them or quasi-enslaving them such as by setting rubber quotas and chopping off hands when those quotas aren't met.Yeah, it isn't nice, we all know this. But it's necessary. As Hegel said, "History is no empire of happiness." The world is hard work, and the more advanced of a society you want, the more work is required. The 1800s in Europe, it has been said, was the hardest period of sustained work in all of
>>532312852A president doesn't need a pension or any pay. Being an elected official should be a form of duty, not something with benefits that would cause people to seek the job out. Just duty performed because society says you have to. This is the work ethic: duty to work for the sake of society's wellbeing.We have too many moochers: immigrants on welfare, Americans on welfare, older folks with too big or pensions, younger folks promised big pensions, lazy office workers who do two hours of actual work in an eight hour shift. This is why China is drinking our milkshake: they know how to work. Nature favors the hardworking, the bold, the people willing to sacrifice for something better. And nature punishes the lazy, the disorganized, those unwilling to suffer now for better things later. Nature penalty for slacking is death by starvation; those which will not work, do not have the right to eat.
>>532313175>A president doesn't need a pension or any pay.If you're not an elite, and you happen to make it to the office of president, and for some reason, you need the money to live, I would consent to paying a government wage. That applies to zero American presidents, but it should.
>>532312415All the breeders depend on the government to protect their tax spawn from Tyrone and Abdul as well as you chuds, and for their pensions and investments. Most people are docile breeder wagies who have no interest in any revolution or radical change, never mind risking their life for anything. All they care about is waging so that their tax spawn can survive into adulthood and perpetuate the cycle.
>>532313175>Nature favors the hardworkingare jews hardworking?
>>532313175>they know how to workYeah, this part I take issue with. There's a push to tell men they don't work anymore, but it's all bullshit. It's bullshit work for bullshit pay. What they're saying, and you're pushing for, it sub-standard pay for unreasonable conditions, and a lot of it's because Mike Rowe has decided that being a slave is rational and responsible. Somewhere along the line, someone payed him to forget about compensation. Just tell them to get back to work. It's based if they work. We'll figure out the rest later. Just work first.
>>532312910world history. This sounds about right, except that more recently, China has likely put in more strenuous work that the West altogether did in the second half of the 1800s when the Industrial Revolution was in full swing.Well, industrialization has been in full swing in China for some 40 years now, and the country has achieved tremendous results, looking like America in the early 20th century: capable of building quickly, building a lot, organizing itself as a country, and just get things done.Nature rewards the diligence and punishes the indolent. We in the West need to step up our work game or be left in the dust. We need millions of new factories, tens of thousands of new mines in the US, and smoke coming out of every chimney, like industrialized countries always have (see pics online of Pittsburgh's sky being blacked out in the daytime during World War II, because of factory and steelmaking processes). The laziness of the second half of the 20th century was fun, when America had the New Deal and Europe had social democracy. But it was never doing to last. It was just a matter of time before undeveloped countries began developing and ending the West's monopoly on finished goods. It's time to go back to the way all of life always was in history: work most of the day, get a day or rest each week if you're lucky.
>>532312415What's the sound a bucket full of crabs makes, OP? Because you sound like that. Government workers have good benefits and everyone should. The problem with Government workers is that they don't work and then they fail upward.
>>532313618They actually do put a ton of effort into scheming.