>leave the capitalists to me
>>532316832Capitalism is ok if corporations kiss the government's ass, instead of the other way around
>>532316946The government in capitalism exists to prtect the interest of capitalists
Yeah hold up let me just inspire 50 million peasants to revolution
>>532316832>Tldr, communism doesn't work
>>532317295fuck around and find out
>>532316946>capitalism is ok only in this completely unrealistic scenario that will never happen i mean ok? i guess
>>532317295No, the Chinese rightly criticized the revisionism of the Khrushchev era and later because they essentially created their own deep state insulated from the masses.
>>532316832Socialists and commies will never win, because there will always be less collectivists than individualists at heart, because the idea of being an ideological leader defeats the whole idea of not having any leaders, so capitalism always wins because it gives freedom to the individuals, and anonymizes leadership to give many an equal opportunity to reach a level of leadership, and doesn't require everybody to stick to 1 unified plan.
>>532317930Cope. We evolved/were created to be guided by a common leader
>>532317930>there will always be less collectivists than individualists at heartMark, you have truly outdone yourself
>>532317930>the whole idea of not having any leaderswestern (("leftists")) (self-avowed Christ/light killers) turning the "stateless, moneyless, classless society" line, and no other line written by any communist leader, into their personality has been one of the great disasters of the past few decades.
>>532317930Communists lose because communism doesn't work. That said, China is not communist country.
>>532317930>projecting western memes onto AsiaThey had Confucianism almost unbroken for two and a half thousand years, it’s ingrained into the language and writing itself. They are almost all collectivists and collectivists always win against individualists.
>>532318503It mostly is. It allows capitalism for smaller enterprises but once they get large then the government starts amassing majority shares
>>532317930the entire history of civilization is collectives crushing isolated individualscivilization is collectivism; the entire concept relies on groups of people pooling resources and labor to achieve goals bigger than any single person could achieve
>>532318832They don’t have majority shares apart from state owned companies. There are lots of huge companies with the ccp only having a minimal stake. What they DO require is that a CCP member sits on every board that can veto any retarded shit they try to do.
>>532318064Yes, to do what we're told, not to act on behalf of everyone's shared desire for something, which is why Capitalism works (1 leader per organization with tireless workers motivated by idiotic shit like money; room to stop being solidaric while you sit on savings) as opposed to Communism (1 leader with demotivated workers who don't have an incentive to keep going; punishment for anyone who won't show solidarity to the common cause)Communism is a project for those who all agree, but people don't ever agree.
>>532319105Uh-huh, but Communism isn't true collectivism. It wants to be collectivist, but in reality it's authoritarian, because it only works for as long as people actually stick together, but schisms always happen, and once there's signs of breakage, communism resorts to Stalins, Lenins and Xis, to enforce the ideology of the group mindset, and then it's viewed as tyranical, and then it eventually breaks apart completely.Capitalism is Godless, where everyone is enabled to be his own agent. You have to work together, in order to serve your current landlord offering you money for work, but he's not the one running society, and the ones running society aren't asking for anything except that everyone earns a living and leave their autonomy up to themselves, and people who start businesses.With communism it's all a cheat because who owns the business? It's supposed to be "everybody" holding the tools, but that always breaks apart from the egotism of the human mind, and once it starts to break, you get a one-party leader who then becomes the figure that leaves people disempowered and knows who to blame for their sufferings.I can't blame Jeff Bezos unless i start to think really deeply about how he has fucked up the equality of the job market, but I still don't feel like he ever did anything to boss me. But I feel that about my prime minister, and Chinese people feel that about Xi.Communism doesn't work, because it's a voluntary group project that only a fraction actually volunteered to (those who already have the ideology), but Capitalism is open to people not having a capitalist ideology, and still finding many ways to co-exist with it.
>>532316946capitalism and corporations cannot exist in modern first world economies and say less in the future human societies, the reason is very simple, elite over production, soon everyone will have an university degree but capitalism does not provide enough jobs for all of them since corporations are hierarchies and work as a pyramid, capitalist societies are pyramidal, they require low under class, they require misery to work, meanwhile under communism everyone becomes their own boss, it becomes a circular society with a regulatory center making sure everything stays fair that is the government, corporations as they are today cannot keep existing with how many college graduates and how little uneducated slave forces there are today
>>532319830That's literally communism, Xiaoling.
