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It is clearly observed behaviour in nature for animals to be gay.
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>>532323262
Yes but you can't breed. Next thread.
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>>532323262
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Rape and pedophilia are also found in nature so those are cool too right
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Your excuse is natural = acceptable?
Rabbits eat their own poop. Is that acceptable human behavior?
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Do animals get STDs?
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>>532323443
Yes, AIDs was originally chimp disease
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>>532323374
This.
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>>532323262
Sharty doxed this faggot (biological female)
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>>532323374
>pedophilia
literally how gays reproduce
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>>532323262
They kill one another constantly. Rape is common. Vast majority smell like, and often even eat, shit. Bathing and other basic hygiene is virtually unheard of. They will happily live among garbage and medical waste and have no qualms with drinking polluted water.

But enough about Indians. What were we talking about again?
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>>532323374
>>532323386
Not the point. The point is that lots of chuds love making the appeal to nature fallacy (=something is moral or good because its "natural"). But just because it's a fallacy doesn't mean you can't debunk its central point, which is what the picture is doing.
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>>532323262
Animals will fuck eachother to prove dominance, not because theyre bisexual
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>>532323262
I had a goat, just one goat out of the few I've had, that beat his head against a wall every day till he died.
Vet couldn't figure it out, he was a happy goat 99% of the time, he'd just occasionally smash his head against a wall, like he'd get in a mood for it.

Killed him eventually. Anyway, when people say "that's unnatural" they mean "that's not naturally healthy" or "that's against natural law" which is not to say "no animal does it".
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>>532323262
>we should act like animals
>t. Humanity right before the flood
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>>532323907
you sure? :3
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>>532323806
>Not the point. The point is I want to sin but I dont want to feel bad about it. So I'm going to flush all of civilization down the toilet so I can ejaculated guilt free.
Ftfy
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>>532323262
>The claim that being lgbt is unnatural defies science

Then why did your asshole prolapse OP?
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>>532323374
All human concepts, as is homosexuality. Nature is based because it just is. It unnapologetically does what it wants to do. Humans cuck themselves and box themselves in a web of made up nonsense.
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>>532324007
I had a cat and bunny at the same time. Both boys. They learned how to let each other hump each other in turns. Seeing as they took turns it obviously wasn't about dominance.
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>>532323262
Citation needed.
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>>532324089
Disgust towards homosexuality is natural
Internal moral sense is natural
Generational thinking is natural
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if your best argument is "animals do it" you not better than them, I have no problem in "put you out of your misery" like I would with a rabid dog, that is the humane thing to do
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>>532323262
I don't care what is is
It's disgusting and I hate you
Cope
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>>532323262
>meanwhile in nature
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You're all moving the goalpost. Op proves it's natural, and one of the main arguments against homo/bisexuality is that is unnatural.


I personally believe that it'd be better if all humans were unambiguously straight. But calling it unnatural, moving the goalpost or calling it inherently wrong is stupid
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OH MY SCIENCEPUSSY, thank you BILL NYE the science goy for affirming my mental illness
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>>532323579
uh...I have questions...
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the arguement being that its an anomoly and paralhilia still stands. animals are born with dosorders all the time, take a look at india. natural =/= benificial for a species. extinction exists
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>>532324007
You're proving his point.
Those rabbits aint even got dicks.
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>>532323262
That's nice. We should also slaughter the kids of our enemies. It happens in nature too, and even the Jews do it. If you refuse to slice open the belly of a nigger toddler and then rip out its intestines because you think it's immoral, you are just an antisemitic reactionary obsessed about fake social constructs like justice, order or kindness.

Wanton slaughter is the natural way. Nature goes first.
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>>532324512
They know this and are pretending to not understand.
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How many animals hide from parents that their mentally ill children chemically castrate themselves with “puberty blockers”, cut off cocks and breasts?
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>>532323262
>see two male animals hump briefly
>equate it to pair bonding, family creating reproduction so we can waste tax dollars on faggots
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>>532324362
Damn spiders. When i look at this i just can't imagine picking it up and cuddling with it.
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>>532324066
>sin
Okay christcuck. Thanks for admitting that your religion is nothing but a tool to control people
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>>532323262
Humans aren't animals. Why should we behave like them?
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>>532324902
The flip and fuck fin is tipping its fedora, lol.
>cut off your dick...it's science...you'll love it
Lol
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>>532323262
I'm not one who believes that homos are mentally ill but stuff like this makes me reconsider
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>>532325023
Ironic comment, considering my dick is fully intact whereas the amerimutt I replied to had his mutilated at childbirth to mark him as a jew slave. Did you too?
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>>532323262
Now lets see rape stats for animalia
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None of these animals engage in any "homosexual behaviour" outside of artificial, stressful environments that alter their psychology, such as zoos and farms. Moreover, modern academia interprets *any* bonding between same-gender animals, regardless of context, as homosexuality.
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>>532323262
You don't understand the "it isn't natural" argument. Are you retarded, or disingenuous?
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>>532323262
Appeal to Nature isn't a fallacy.
It only appears to be a fallacy when you're a retarded fuckwit that can't into cause and effect.
"Not natural" means "DOES NOT SERVE NATURAL PROCESSES."
Learn to fucking English.
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>>532323262
natural forms of homosexuality do not require a relentless stream of propaganda
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>>532325219
>randomly starts sperging about a stranger's dick and his own
You fags are weird.
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>>532323262
Animals also steal, rape, and murder. The point of societies is to correct behaviors that negatively impact the group. Open faggotry is clearly not beneficial for society.
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>>532323262
Who cares if it is natural or not. There is an international gay conspiracy and they're demons.

Gays aren't fairies. They're demons like Jeffrey Dahmer.

It's funny guys because I am like the epicenter of all world events, but I know someone who knew someone who was raped, killed, and eaten by Jeffrey Dahmer.
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A little kid dancing in a gay bar while pedophile faggots threw dollar bills at him is totally natural, chuds.
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>>532325154
>dewormer
OH NO. Anyways.
Terminate all parasites.
>but..but parasites are natural!
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>>532325286
>None of these animals engage in any "homosexual behaviour" outside of artificial, stressful environments that alter their psychology, such as zoos and farms.
these animals are documented to engage in homosexual behaviors in any context, and some of them, like bonobos, incorporate them into their social systems. These aren't some isolated behaviors

>Moreover, modern academia interprets *any* bonding between same-gender animals, regardless of context, as homosexuality.
That's more like the layman interpretation of it. Everyone assumes that homosexual behavior = exclusive homosexuality when that's not the case at all. The vast majority of animals who engage in these practices, are bisexual, and only rarely homosexual.
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>>532325519
The joke, of course, is your failure to parse that faggots are, in fact, gay.
There is no gradient. It is a binary distinction.
Oh, wait, you're one of those that gets angry about binary distinctions, aren't you?
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>>532325458
Well if it isn't the pot calling the kettle black. You're the one who started talking about dicks out of nowhere, retard. I'm merely returning the favor
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>>532323262
>pic
That's true, but that's also why animal models aren't widely applicable to humans. They have "sneaky" males, triadic configurations, etc. Humans even in nominally polygamous countries don't act like them.
That's not to say being homosexual is unusual in human society. I'm just not looking at a penguin to determine what percentage "should be."
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>>532325883
>no you (again)
Stop talking about strangers dicks on the internet. Stop telling strangers on the internet about your dick. Simple as.
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>>532325722
There's an obvious gradient to sexual behavior and this has nothing to do with stupid shit like claiming that sex is non binary. You basically claim that any homosexual behavior = full blown homosexuality in denial and that's extraordinarily retarded.


you probably see everything in black and white because you're afraid that you have a piece of a little faggot bitch deep inside you
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>>532323443
Koalas have chlamydia
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>>532323262
Fine.

Gays aren't human. Just animals.
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>>532324783
Some spiders when they get big and furry enough are pretty cute and are fun to play with.
Most spiders are pretty chill. There are some that mimic sticks and such too which are like stick insects.
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>>532326005
>calling people faggots for being faggots is retarded
Just like calling people vectors for spreading disease is "racist" or some faggotry.
This isn't even a remotely gray topic once you take your fucking sunglasses off. If it were grey, you would feel no need to defend faggotry.
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>>532323262
that's because animals have lower sexual dysmorphism than humans on average and they are dumb as shit, they legit can't tell that they are trying to fuck a male and not a female
with these comparison, fags are impying that they are smart as animals or even dumber
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>>532323262
if you were stuck on an island it would be depopulated in 1 generation, try it nature boy.
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>>532323262
Cancer and parasites are also in nature.
Doesn't mean they're necessarily good.
Pic Related.
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>>532323262
>"Tom you can't stay under the sea for 6 hours without air, breathing underwater isn't natural!"
>100% of fish breathe underwater
>1.2% of adult frogs can breathe underwater
>100% of sharks breathe underwater

Checkmate.
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>>532323262
Is there anyone that even denies that animals can suffer from severe mental illnesses?
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It is clearly observed behaviour in nature for female animals to be impregnated by multiple males during a single heat cycle.
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>>532326178
then your definition of faggotry =/= actual homosexuality
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>>532326181
The joke, of course, is that you are actually incapable of learning animal sexual dimorphism.
The know. Anyone studying the topic knows.
You? You're a faceblind retard, apparently.
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>>532325991
As soon as you stop bringing up dicks out of nowhere, hypocrit. Until then, you reap what you sow.
Also, you never replied to the point I made, probably because you realized how blown the fuck out you got so now you're retreating to ad hominems and criticizing tone. Pathetic.
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>>532323310
yep, that's a bonafide Grade A FPBP /thread
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>>532326321
>use words
>pay no attention to the roots
It would appear that I am cleaving more strongly to meaning than you are willing to tolerate.
Why is tolerance a component of this? You are allowed to be wrong.
"Bisexual" is just gay with extra steps.
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>>532326415
>no you (yet again)
Stop telling strangers on the internet about your dick, anon. Simple as.
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>>532323262
don't forget the gay frogs
>caused by atrazine runoff
or the gay seabirds
>caused by mercury in the fish from dirty coal plants
but surely humans are completely immune to environmental toxins right?
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>>532323262
>Source: Some Literally who on social media
Fucking kill yourself faggot.
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>>532323262
murder is natural
theft is natural
adultery, lying underoath, and dishonoring parents is natural.
natural is not always good.
homosexuals reproduce by molesting children.
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You know what's also natural? Race war. African Cichlids discriminate based on color mutations and also have rapid speciation as a result. Like two African rift likes Tanganyika and Malawi have several thousand African Cichlid species as a result. Any time the color of a fish changes through mutation it ends up being treated like a different species and then eventually does become an actual different species. One example you can see right now is Labidochromis Caeruleus which in the wild almost all of them are blue, but there's a small population of yellow ones too, and in the aquarium trade the yellow ones are super popular. These fight are extremely territorial, aggressive, often kill each other, and have race wars. Racism is for the most part universal in nature. Very social animals like bees and ants also engage in punishment of anti-social behavior too, killing their own when they don't serve the collective. So policing immoral behavior that goes against your tribe's interest is a thing in nature too. Besides all this cannibalism and rape is also very common in nature.

Also what is "natural" could just mean what is normative within a particular group. The comic you posted represents a categorical error as such. What is natural in a specific group varies. He likely was not talking about "nature taken as all living organisms on the planet" but "this behavior is unnatural in my social group of humans".
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>>532323262
1. Being gay has 0 evolutionary benefits to any animal. You can’t breed, your genes are then lost. Gay animals are abnormal to their species as they will die with no way to pass their genes on.
2. Rape is also seen in other animals too.
3. Crazy that you’re comparing gays to animals
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>>532326438
>"Bisexual" is just gay with extra steps.
Because that's retarded. You're allowed to dislike it as much as you want, but that makes 0 sense.

Some bisexuales heavily lean gay, others fuck everything, others heavily lean straight. A dude could be extremely attracted to women, only be romantically attracted to women, and only be a tiny bit attracted to men. He could spend his entire life having sex with thousands of women and only dating women, but according to your retarded definition, he's homosexual because if the planets align he might fuck some dude's ass

Human sexuality is far more complicated than these labels.
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>>532323907
Or masturbating cause they don't have hands. I've seen a video of a dolphin fucking a dead fish head even.
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>>532323262
So they admit gays act more like animals.
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>>532323262
Aren't those an stronger animal submitting an weaker one and raping it most of the time?
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>>532323330
>discord
>speedrunning
Closet troon is shocked troon activities attracts troons. What a fucking worthless screenshot post. What’s next? Gonna complain the resident evil subreddit’s jannies are polygamous cuckolds?
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>>532323310
Right, and this is the actual definition of natural
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Does anyone have that old screencap of the guy ranting about how we didn't climb our way to the top of the foodchain, develop satellites and space travel. Only for people to argue that gay sex is natural because monkeys that fling their own shit at one another actually can be gay also.
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>>532326749
>if I define a spectrum it negates the reality of the spectrum having two ends
What if, instead of a spectrum, we instead had "healthy" and "poisoned?" Would you be willing to get it?
You are allowed to be healthy. You are allowed to murder your intestinal parasites.
Human sexuality is not complex. Penis go in vagina.
Everything else is just misinterpreted socialization signals, brain damage, and infestation.
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>>532324783
Black widows are super chill.
Some years ago, one moved into my room and set up in the corner.
She had unique markings so I decided to let her stay, and I never had a problem with her. She just hung out and ate bugs.
It was a bit of a chore moving all her offspring out after they harched, but it was worth it to help out some rare variant.
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>>532323806
Oh my lord you clearly suck at logic.

The naturalism fallacy is usually used when people are talking about drugs. "Marijuana is natural therefore it's good" is stupid because we all know deadly nightshade is natural and the berries will kill you if you eat them.

When people say gets are unnatural there's a context, they are really saying "homosexuality is non-normative behaviour".

"Non-normative refers to something that does not conform to established norms or standards, often relating to behaviors, identities, or expressions that differ from what is typically expected. This term is commonly used in discussions about gender, sexuality, and social behaviors."

It's a perfectly correct statement. You guys though are making categorical error by not understanding this.

"A categorical error, also known as a category mistake, occurs when something is incorrectly placed in a category it does not belong to, or when a property is attributed to something that it cannot possibly have. For example, asking which player in a cricket team performs "team spirit" is a categorical error, as team spirit is not a role that can be assigned to an individual player."

As usual logic and rationality always favors the chuds as chuddism is perfectly aligned with the logos.

"Logos is a term used in Western philosophy, psychology and rhetoric, as well as religion, that most broadly means reason, logic, order, or understanding. Among its connotations is that of a rational form of discourse that relies on inductive and deductive reasoning. Aristotle first systematized the usage of the word, making it one of the three principles of rhetoric alongside ethos and pathos."
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>>532326971
You're basically saying that all sex that doesn't directly involve reproduction = poison and " misinterpreted socialization signals, brain damage, and infestation." which is even more retarded than equating all bisexuality to homosexuality. Your definition also involves heterosexual sex, such as oral sex, or even something as vanilla as mutual masturbation
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>>532323262
>LGB
Bestial some of the time. Bestial examples include a male duck raping another male duck to death.
Causes are:
Biological issues (possibly like fetus attacked by mother's immune system during pregnancy), genetics indirectly, mental illness, diseases, cultural indoctrination, etc.
>T
Apart from stuff like XXY, causes are:
Biological issues, genetics indirectly, mental illness, diseases, cultural indoctrination, etc.
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>>532323386
Natural can be used as synonym for normative and very clearly in the context of some politically oriented guy talking about homosexual behavior he's meaning normative/typical/expected-behavior. The faggot that made the OP comic made a categorical error. Many words have different meanings depending on contexts. e.g logos in philosophy, theology, and psychology means 3 different things.

The psychological definition of logos often refers to the masculine principle of rationality, contrasting with the feminine principle of eros, while the philosophical definition emphasizes logos as a principle of order and reason in the universe, originating from ancient Greek thought. In contrast, the theological definition identifies logos with the divine Word, particularly in Christianity, where it is associated with Jesus Christ as the embodiment of God's revelation.

An irrational idiot who isn't well schooled in formal logic might ignore context and start talking to you about the logos of psychology or theology when you were talking about the logos of philosophy. One of most common errors of pseudointellectuals like Juden Peterstein is the categorical error, although that faggot makes a TON of other errors besides.

Nobody saying "being gay isn't natural" means it isn't found in nature, they just mean it's not typical, it's normative behaviour, it's queer, it's strange, it's odd, it's atypical, etc. various ways of saying it isn't the default/common way of being.
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>>532327289
>but what about...
The fact that you did not recognize those stubs as bait makes it clear you have no actual idea what is going on.
While you're engrossed in retardation, though, feel free to review the definition of sodomy. And herpes.
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>>532327568
I accept your concession
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>>532323262
it is observed thats why theres so many more faggots cuz they observe it from porn
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>>532323262
>please treat us gays like we were savage beasts
your terms are acceptable
and yif in hell, faggot
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>>532323262
I am a pagan and used to hate LGBT people (quite a lot, actually), but I started vocally supporting them to put Christniggers in their place. Because Christniggers are unworthy of even basic contempt. They deserve to be actively hated and their views to be defied. Any questions?
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>>532323907
Are you saying bisexuality is tied to platonic love and that you're not gay for fucking another man in the ass if it was to dominate him?

I think you're coping.
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>>532327666
>actually, i'm jewish
Explains the fag shit. You didn't need to tell me, though.
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>>532323262
Cannibalism and incest are also clearly observed in nature. This is a sign that we should engage in those behaviors as well, correct?
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>>532327700
A smart pagan would attack jews before Christians.
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>>532323982
natural /năch′ər-əl, năch′rəl/
adjective

1. Present in or produced by nature.
"a natural pearl."
2. Of, relating to, or concerning nature.
"a natural environment."
3, Conforming to the usual or ordinary course of nature.
"a natural death."
4. Not acquired; inherent.
"Love of power is natural to some people."
5. Having a particular character by nature.
"a natural leader."
6. Not produced or changed artificially; not conditioned.
"natural immunity; a natural reflex."
7. Characterized by spontaneity and freedom from artificiality, affectation, or inhibitions. synonym: naive.
Similar: naive
8. Not altered, treated, or disguised.
"natural coloring; natural produce."

Even ignoring that what I've said earlier about "normative" vs "non-normative" behaviour we can see here that the OP used the first definition of "natural" but we are using the 3rd definition. So still a categorical error.
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>>532327866
Agree to disagree, my mentally challenged friend. Jews didn't destroy pagan temples, kill pagans and burn pagan books of esoteric wisdom.
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>>532324415
Rape, and reproducing with females the second they're sexually mature is also natural. In fact, it's exclusively what every other species on earth does. Women and fags love the "it's natural" argument, but only for shit that favors them and explains their own degeneracy and base impulses. But, all straight male sexuality is demonzied, and "we;re better than this", and suddenly natural is bad.
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>>532323262
You don't see any animals cutting their cocks off though
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>>532323262
It's also natural for me to stone you and lynch you for being a faggot.
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>>532328034
>Jews didn't
This is also a category error. "Early christians" didn't pogrom jews. Why?
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>>532323262
>whiptail lizards
They regressed into parthenogenesis, i.e. they clone themselves by fertilizing their own egg. Their gender is vestigial since males are extinct and the females don't have sex with each other.

Classical lie by ommission.

>bonobo
They keep sex slaves for no other purpose but to be cruel and are about to die out due to being massively oversocialized. They don't like "bisexuality", sexual domination is just a tool to them.

>dolphins
Rapists generally care less about what they rape.

>black swans
Steal other swan's children.

>penguins & rams
In general animals don't care what they fuck because they are driven solely by primitive instincts, if a sexual frustrated male rapes another male that's not homosexuality, it's just masturbation by a creature that isn't creative enough to do it another way. Many animals can't tell gender by looking and if they skip the identification process they will fuck anything that gives them the impulse. More socialized animals will then engage in primitive pair bonding, not understanding what they are doing wrong, however it's not an attraction, they just bond with the first thing they fuck. You can watch all kinds of animals try to fuck your hand if you present it to them, yet we don't see a large movement of hand fetishists demanding the ability to adopt children for the latent purpose of sexual exploitation. Likewise we have species raping other species, including the same gender, simply because THEY DON'T CARE WHAT THEY FUCK. Yet under OP's premise this would lead to millions of humans wanting to fuck any other species regardless of what they are and that is the only way for them to have sex.

Biologically homosexuality is a form of sexual sociopathy: The wider purpose of sex becomes irrelevant in face of mindless egotistical hedonism, any "pair bonding" or "mate care" is either performative social manipulation or faking heterosexual behavior to satisfy deeper urges.
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>>532323262
black swan - true male couple steal eggs from other nests and raise them. lmao, they perform better than hetero couples because two males = stronger
bonobos - use sexual unga bunga as a method of pack dominance, they aren't gay, they use dicking as beating
rams - sexual attraction is not a concept in nature,
penguins - muh some couples
dolphin - literally rape gang females for weeks and are extreme gooners
whiptails - lesbo lizards is true too

also
chimpanzes could mate normally, and yet they choose to rape the higher the rape and beating the higher the rank
hyenas rape with their clithoris as a mean to dominance
turtles will rape a rock if they are horny enough
ephant seals become beachmasters and aggressively monopolize entire beaches of harems,
ducks also gang gang mating.
orangutans betas kidnap females, beat them until they give up, and mate
bedbug penis is like a dagger they stab the female until they find the right place, if she live she lives lmao attitude
liberals invite literal unga bunga in their countries and let them roam rape their daughters

the nature of these beasts is incredible
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>>532323262
>let's be more like animals
>many animals cannibalize their offspring or each other
>jews push the "animals are gay so it's ok" narritive
>also eat children

use your power of discernment for fucks sake
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>>532327088
Chuds's use of appeal to nature fallacy goes no deeper than "not natural, therefore bad". Nothing in the text you wrote disproves that
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>>532325154
>if only you know how bad things really are
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>>532328034
Jews naturalled upon St. Simon of Trent. But forget the baby eaters, someone cut down a tree
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>>532325519
>these animals are documented to engage in homosexual behaviors in any context, and some of them, like bonobos, incorporate them into their social systems. These aren't some isolated behaviors
Yet there is zero video evidence of these behaviours. All studies that allegedly document them are supported purely by anecdotal accounts bankrolled by LGBTQ groups, and thus invite extreme scepticism.
>That's more like the layman interpretation of it. Everyone assumes that homosexual behavior = exclusive homosexuality when that's not the case at all. The vast majority of animals who engage in these practices, are bisexual, and only rarely homosexual.
The majority of animals that engage in these (mostly fabricated) behaviours are captive, and thus stressed to the point where they impulsively mount anything in the near vicinity in the absence of a fertile female. It is quite literally just a response to overcrowded, cramped conditions that are completely unnatural in these species' usual environment. The state of being "prison gay" is real, but it isn't something that should be celebrated.
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>>532323262
they're as natural as any other genetic defect
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>>532323262
>faggots are animals
About time they admitted it.
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“being a genetic dead end is completely natural”

actual accurately scientific take?
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>>532325286
Actually multiple animals in OP, at least dolphins and bonobos, engage in homosexual activity for strictly immasculating purposes. The pack's breeding males rape adolescent and non-breeding males as part of a social activity to cement the non-breeding males as lower in hierarchy. Think of it as basically hazing except about 60% of males spend their entire lives as freshies and never actually join the frat as real members and get to fuck a sorority girl.
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>>532328439
And they're still not wrong. Animals do that because their literal monkey-brains says nothing more than "My dick is hard, and dicks go in holes. There's a hole. Time to put my dick in it". Animals also don't go around trying to convert as many of their species, especially children, into permanent faggots. The same-sex pairings and bisexual nature the original image references usually aren't permanent either, and often done out of confusion/boredom till they realize what they did or find an actual female. Lastly, the fuck does the one with the female lizard species even have to do with this? FUCKING HUMANS AREN'T AN ALL MALE/FEMALE SPECIES. This isn't the got'cha whoever made the original image and people like you think it is. Humans can't reproduce asexually, bud, or change their physical ability to birth children you knuckle-dragging ape.
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>>532323310
Why can't gays breed?
>be gay
>stick peepee in a woman for a change
>breed
>be lesbian
>get raped
>breed
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>>532324066
Sin is such a stupid concept. It literally means transgressing the will of God. How can the will of God be transgressed? It can also be defined as transgression of a religious law, but religious laws can command immoral things.

I prefer to adhere to the paradigm of "virtue vs vice". A virtue is a good character attribute or good habit, a vice is like a bad habit or character flaw.

You can know very easily what is a virtue or a vice, there's no confusion about it all, as it's tied to the natural world and the consequences or fruits thereof.

Meanwhile sins are arbitrary, confusing, based on "revealed wisdom" aka some dead schizo from the past. The opposite of sin is purity but tied into that is the idea that you can't just change your status at all, once you've transgressed, you're a transgressor forever. That's why Abrahamic retards have the Messiah bullshit, because they think they can scapegoat, and transfer their status as sinner onto a chicken or a dead rabbi on a sick.

Meanwhile a bad habit can be dropped, a character flaw can be worked on. Vices can be overcome and stop being part of your being. You can obtain virtues, express virtues, embody them. No messiah scapegoat bullshit needed. Just you working through and with the laws of nature which are known from empirical observation and rational inquiry.

Once a person is virtuous there virtues greatly benefit themselves and everyone around them, they make good company at that point, and they carry there virtue with them wherever they go.

Sin though? You can't solve that on your own, it's a supposed transgression against God. The whole concept you can transgress God is incredibly stupid. God's will is omnipotent, he's also omniscient. This gets into the "if god, why evil exist" arguments.
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>>532326925
No it isn't
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>>532323262
Mental illness is also observed in animals.
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>>532323262
So is racism, murder, torture, pedophilia and cannibalism.
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>>532328034
Bruh they have like 3 holidays celebrating the genocide of pagan peoples and have you never opened the Torah lmao
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>>532329079
and heavy amounts of racism
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>>532329153
By that logic, "animals kill each other to eat meat" isn't a good argument against veganism. Are you sure you can accept that? I doubt it,
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>>532324066
I don't believe in a personal God. I believe in the impersonal universal cosmic mind, The All. It doesn't judge, it's not partial, it doesn't demand foreskins. The correct way of orientation towards my God, The All is to know how it works since it works in an automatic way, out of eternal and divine necessity, according to its own inner nature. The nature of The All is the universal laws, the laws of mind. The laws of mind are also the laws from which the laws of biology, chemistry, physics, etc. are derived. Mathematical laws I should note also are mental/ideal in nature.

One who knows the workings of natures can accomplish all things.
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>>532323262
So is rape, pedo and necro.
Why copy animals , let’s be better than them.
>>532328914
But now they got aids. Or the fag gene
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>>532329379
>by that logic, my categorization error is the exact same as this one!
Yes, categorization errors share a category. It's called "categorization errors."
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>>532323262
Incest, pedophagy and rape are also found in nature what's your point?
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>>532328034
The whole idea of Israel as "promised land" is based on genocide of autochtones of Kaanaan. No to mention other genocides, one on fresh convers, damn even their yahweh was mad at them for that one and cursed next 7 generations...
But yeah jews being vile liars? Who would have thought!
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>>532323262
I fixed it.
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>>532325160
What's a mental illness according to you? I need a working definition of what so called mental illness is to begin answering that. I personally think mental illnesses are rooted in physical issues like sleep deprivation, chronic pain, biological trauma, etc. The only mental issues people have is in regards to critical thinking and prioritization and concepts, and that just requires learning how to think. Insomnia for example that gets called a mental illness but insomnia to me is not mental. If it was mental it could be solved in the mind. I think it's a somatic issue.
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>>532329379
That doesn't make sense. You're an idiot. You're trying to say "natural is bad" as if that makes sense when what you want to say is "natural is good" which isn't true either. Scorpion venom is natural. So is uranium dust. So is viral and bacterial disease. Faggotry is bad because it is harmful to the organism in question. The same reason you being eaten by a bear would be natural but bad for you. Now shut up. You're too stupid to post here.
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>>532323262
I Hellenic polytheism Prometheus decides to make more people Dionysus gets him drunk and then he plays mix and match with parts bodies and minds making LGBTQI people

Science some people are born LGBTQI we dont know exactly why in all cases but in many its a mix of womb hormonal turbulence, intersex brain features, body doesn't respond to the primary sex hormones, genes and they interpret it through societal standards

Christians our perfect god made a perfect man and then made a rib lady then she ate an apple they got kicked out of Eden and made more people incestuously. Everything is perfect, everything is exactly as Yahweh wants it. Ignore intersex people downie babies, retards and hate queers for some reason

Alex Jones its chemicals making the frogs gay but also we need to hate queers for some reason even though the chemicals are making the frogs gay
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>>532325415
Deadly nightshade is natural therefore it's good and you should consume it.

Appeal to Nature is absolutely a fallacy you retard. However the comic is committing a categorical error.
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shitting in toilets isn't natural
clothes aren't natural
religion isn't natural
medicine isn't natural
your computer isn't natural

appeal to nature holds no value. why don't you go hump a lion you fag, see how the ecosystem reacts to your mauled corpse. humans are meant to manipulate nature to become something idyllic for us.
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>>532323262
I have nothing against consensual homosexual relations, but appeal to nature is a fallacy. Nature is grotesque.

>>532323310
Breeding is immoral.
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The faggots are recruiting again. Don't fall for their identity breaking and don't identify as a faggot.
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>>532323262
No, faggot.
Animals occasionally show same-sex mounting due to dominance, stress, or hormonal spikes — not "gay identity" or pair-bonding. They don't build civilizations around it, march in parades, or demand society rewrite biology for their fetish.
Humans doing it as a lifestyle is a modern degeneracy, not "natural." Nature's rule is reproduce or die. Everything else is noise.
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>>532330380
Every single one of those things is 100% natural. Human religious delusion is the only reason the actions of one species are considered "unnatural" and the next species only does "natural" actions. LMAO, the hubris!

We're made of the same atoms as gosts snd beavers. Our behavior is fully compelled by the same 4 fundamental forces as the behavior of every other set of atoms. Free will and existentialism are religious beliefs.
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>>532323262
Jews push identity faggotry for the same reason they push everything else: divide and conquer.

They flood the culture with tranny parades, pride flags, and "queer" everything so White voters get split into two camps — the ones defending their degenerate fetish and the ones who want to protect normal families. While we're busy fighting each other over bathrooms and pronouns, nobody's noticing who controls the banks, media, and open-border policies that are actually replacing us.

The faggots fall for it every single time because they think with their anuses instead of their brains. Their entire identity is built on sexual deviance, so they'll defend the tribe that validates it, even as it destroys the civilization that used to keep them in check.

It's classic Jewish strategy: weaponize the dysfunctional against the functional. Keep the goyim distracted with culture war freak shows while the real conquest continues.
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>>532330730
No.

Animals occasionally mount the same sex for dominance or frustration. They don’t build identities around it, demand parades, or redefine marriage and reality to accommodate their fetish.

Humans doing that isn’t “natural” it’s civilized degeneracy enabled by abundance and the removal of shame. Every healthy society in history suppressed it because it’s anti-reproductive and destabilizing.

“We’re just atoms” is midwit cope. Yes, we’re made of the same stuff as goats, but we’re the only species that builds cathedrals, writes symphonies, and sends probes to Mars. That same capacity lets us rise above base instincts or wallow in them like faggots.

Calling faggotry “natural” because a deer humped another deer once is peak retardation. Evolution’s metric is reproduction and survival, not your feelings.
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>>532323262
Animals also eat their own shit, so guess that's normal too.
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>>532323310
Gays and can gay it up, but this right here should determine if the couple can get married or not.
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>>532323262
>subhuman animals engage in homosexual acts

This is your argument? Really?
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>>532325474
A daemon is a spirit aka a core of awareness. An NPC / philosophical zombie is one who lacks that core. Being a daemon is good, it means you actually exist, you are an actual self, and you have a life beyond the body.

Also a Medieval Christian would never get along with a Modern Christcuck like you.

In the history there was Dante's Inferno, Paradise Lost, and then Salem Witch Trials, and then all these recent movies and those all shaped your ideas about religion and made you into the Modern Christcuck that you are.

Dante made Satan to a three-headed dog in a very cold place.

Paradise lost made Satan again into a character he was never like before and closer to what we have in the modern stuff.

The Salem Witch trials were a real estate dispute and just people framing others so they could seize their land and followed a pattern of "neighbors arguing for a few years over the boundaries of their land then one side decides to accuse the other of consorting with the devil and gets them burned but only if they can get the land by so accusing them".

Satan also incorporated the worship of Pan from pagans into his character.

The way you say "demon" you may as well just say "something/anything I don't understand and which scares me".
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>>532325474
Fact is gays produce a disgust reaction in you because their behavior is self-destructive and spreads disease and death. Anal prolapse is a disgusting thing to see and shortens life, nobody should have anal sex, even the straights. Shit often carries diseases. And the rectum and the penis end up bleeding more during anal sex and many diseases can have an opportunity then to spread. Also it's pointless in that it doesn't serve the real purpose of sex: procreation.

No need to talk muh demons. They are repulsive for perfectly natural reasons and the instinct of any healthy animal is to avoid or destroy the source of such behaviors as to protect itself.

Original Satan was a necessary entity who tested and proved people for Yahweh. In order to find out if someone really was virtuous, Satan would test to them. He wasn't this really evil guy who can oppose God in any way but actually an entity that entirely was aligned with the will of God and had this important role/function of accuser.

You modern Christcucks though you fear all kinds of boogiemen because the television has ruined your minds. Before the television though books were already warping your religion.

You need to watch this to actually learn what your religion is about but Christcucks typically can't into theology or history or knowing what their religion is about or they wouldn't be Christcucks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-QZsIMK0O4
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>>532331111
Paradise Lost sucks. Running away from yourself is literally the forbidden fruit. Satan wants change in identity.
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>>532325722
Bro are you conflating sexuality with sex? That's also a categorical error. Sexuality refers to behavior. Sex refers to gender. There is only male and female. Sexuality on the other hand there is heterosexual, bisexual, homosexual, asexual, and also shit like zoophile and whatever the word is for people attracted to statues and necrophiles and pedophiles and so on all words that describe an orientation of the sexual impulse. Sexuality describes ones sexual attraction, whereas sex describes a biological characteristic.
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Dolphins, Penguins and many other animals are notorious rapists. Species, Age, and living are minutia to them.
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>>532324604
i've actually just started hitting people for playing stupid in arguements and i've hd amazing success so far
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>>532325511
Why isn't it common knowledge that worms cause teh gey yet
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>>532326415
no one asked nigger
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>>532326530
Can I have a rundown on how exactly astrazine interacts with their biology to produce that outcome?

Same thing for mercury.

Just asking because I'm curious what exactly changes in the body as a result of these toxins.
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>>532326744
Sigh, your argument is bad.

>1. Being gay has 0 evolutionary benefits to any animal.

Evolution doesn't happen on the scale of the individual. Many behaviors of animals are self-sacrificing/altruistic because evolution favors such behaviors.

>You can’t breed, your genes are then lost.

Would be true if they were strictly homosexual, but most so called homosexuals are actually bisexuals, and will just fuck anything with a hole.

>Gay animals are abnormal to their species as they will die with no way to pass their genes on.

Okay but every species has various mechanisms for culling unworthy individuals for the sake of maintaining the genetic integrity of the species. Rabbits especially are big practitioners of eugenics, pigs too. Some species kill their runts, and many species have fitness tests during mating season to filter out the unworthy from reproducing. Faggotry from an evolutionary point of view COULD arise as a way to kill off and exclude unworthy individuals from the species so that bad genetic traits don't proliferate as well as a way to keep diseased males away from the females.

>2. Rape is also seen in other animals too.

Very true.

>3. Crazy that you’re comparing gays to animals

Humans are animals.
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>>532328592
>All studies that allegedly document them are supported purely by anecdotal accounts bankrolled by LGBTQ groups
This, whenever you see a statistic on gay anything it's safe to assume they're trying to make some social point or get free money.
I've tried to look up these many videos of gay animals having sex and there are none. Not a joke, I can find a handful VS the infinite amount of normal animal sex videos.
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>>532330413
migs shouldnt breed
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>Appeal to nature fallacy
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>>532332449
>Many behaviors of animals are self-sacrificing/altruistic because evolution favors such behaviors
It's exactly the opposite, genes are selfish and they only become altruistic when the animal - like bees - are so genetically close that it doesn't matter if you or your siblings breed. Altruism is fairly rare among animals and genes.

Genes are selfish and evolve this way, you don't know what you're talking about and might as well just be filtered after making that retarded post.
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>>532323262
Can't get an "ought" from an "is".
How many animals also kill their own species they don't like? Should we apply this practice towards troons? It is "natural" right?
Even most faggot redditors recognize that this is a fallacious argument.
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>>532323262
Ah good, so if someone I want to fuck is married with kids I can simply kill them and reimpregnate her. There are a ton of natural species that do this naturally so it's a good thing.
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>>532328439
Strawman. You're using a strawman now. Chuds usually don't decide something is bad because it's artificial or else they'd reject all artificial things like posting on imageboards. So clearly the real litmus test being used isn't a dichotomy of natural vs artificial.
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>>532327700
So christniggers ought to be respected only because there way of being is so remarkable that to have even basic contempt of them would be wrong?

Also why kind of "pagan" are you?

I will never support the alphabet people and I definitely am not a christcuck. I also don't hate chirstcucks do much that I'd start supporting vile scum like sexual degenerates.

I think you're just some christcuck pretending to be a pagan homosexual supporter.
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>>532332736
How is it a fallacy? We’re all animals and heterosexuality is natural.
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>>532328034
Bro, Jews did all that, and have a long history of hating on pagans far more than their christcuck golem slaves.
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>>532323262
Ok, so I guess incest is not only ok as well, we should encourage and promote it. Got it. Thanks.
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>>532323262
I goon to femboy furry hentai but still am against teaching kids about buttsex since it is grooming
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>>532323262
breaking news, animals can have parasites too



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