opinions on this state?
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Abandon all hope ye who enter hereEverything you think you hate about California is actually Oregon, but far worse than even the most fever dreamt /pol/ shitpost crafted by a 3rd who has never left his village in rural India. Even death won't free you from this evil as your soul will become trapped even in death.
>>532326710Population centers are full of disgusting subhuman. Rual areas are full of drug addicts.The coast is nice
>>532326710Seems cool. Would visit.
>>532326710Poison Idea was cool. They don't seem to have much else going for them.
>>532326710It got hit hard by 'the great sort,' the national movement of people around the US during the 00's and 10's. Lots of psychotic retards moved to the Portland area and distorted the entire state's politics due to its relatively low population.
>>532326710It's square.
>>532326710Oregon has great nature probably the best in the world next to the French alps.Oregon is also somewhat expensive but its not uber expensive like Los Angeles or San Diego.
>>532326710Bump
>>532326710I always forget it exists I always think California is south of Washington
>>532326710Bump.
>>532326710they are full
>>532327365Although I see your point, Oregon and Washington in fact last voted for a Republican president in 1984.
>>532326710>Bend Owegon
>>532327365That happened in the 60's.
>>532327531Oregon is Washington and California atmosphere put together. Its hard to explain Oregon, also Portland is the only major city, the rest of the state lives in squalor in trailer parks.
Believe or not Oregon has an unemployment rate of almost 12 percent. Thats very high, also rural Oregon suffers from lack of jobs. Rural Oregon could benefit from mass wind farms to help generate power to the rest of the state as well as food processing plants.
>>532326710Get out while you can.
I think though that given the choice of living in a third world country like south east asia or being poor in Oregon, id still choose being poor in Oregon.
And in fact both states started leaning Democrat since 1968 and in 72 the West Coast was one of McGovern's stronger-performing regions.
It's a great state.Governance-wise, the capital Salem (and more broadly in national elections) is determined by the population weight center of Multnomah County, also some of Washington County aka the Portland metro area.Same as in the state of Washington, entire state's destiny in Olympia is, electorally, determined by the population weight center of King County aka the Seattle metro area.All American states are like this. Being destroyed by the cancer that is the Blue population-weight urban center where all of the NPCs that vote for I-Hate-Trump, live together.The United States of America is being totally destroyed from within, by a cancer growing in the twelve largest 'Blue' metro population weight centers. NoVa is a gigantic Blue center that supports the federal deep administrative state all by itself.
Cucked. Hopefully the eastern counties join Idaho.
>>532328285WA state and Oregon were both red states 45 years ago.
PNW culture imo is cool, we got coffee, salmon, and cold weather for skiing.
>>532327695Leaning Democrat has little to do with what happened after the mass-migrations of the Portlandia era. Portland didn't even legalize 'public camping' (aka junkie encampments) until 2016. Prior to that, it was actually much more sane in terms of how it functioned as a city.
>>532326710Their neighbors to the north in Washington have Microsoft, Amazon, Starbucks, Costco and Nordstrom. Oregon has Nike and?
>>532326710had good music back in the day. Heatmiser, Hazel, Crackerbash. shame what's happened to it
>>532328816Intelbeautiful country ruined by trooned out bugmen. they're literally talking about banning all types of hunting because these people think bambi is irl.the western states deserve better from us. tons of rw people are leaving in droves to fuggo places like TN or FL and sealing the fate of america's finest land
>>532329443>tons of rw people are leaving in droves to fuggo places like TN or FL and sealing the fate of america's finest landWhite flight to Appalachia and the south isn't the answer. I believe whole heartedly the PNW can have traditional values and be conservative again.
Ahahahahahahahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tina_Kotek>In 2024, three of Kotek's top aides, including her chief of staff and deputy chief of staff, resigned after registering concerns about the role of the governor's wife, Aimee Kotek Wilson, in her administration.
>>532326710Full of fucking retards
>>532327702Bend is one of the nicer parts of Oregon
>>532328285There are like half a dozen prominent elected officials in Oregon who have been busted for sex pederasty of some kind or another
>>532327365Crater lake and Mount Hood are awesome. I love the nature of Oregon.
>>532328285By that logic, why isn't Texas blue? El Paso, San Antonio, Austin, DFW, and Houston are deep blue yet it's still a red state.
>>532329443Same exact situation in Colorado. The right wing people are leaving in droves and the state just gets bluer and bluer.
>>532332628>TexasDo you even know what has been occurring there past 5 years?Ken Paxton?Entire state Legislature, the Texas Republican Party may as well be Democrats because those are the only policies they legislate, vote for and support.Abbott, lt. gov. Patrick are gigaZionists.Texas is globalist Uniparty state already just like California. By no standard is 2026 Texas 'red'
>>532326710never been but i think this is the west coast state i would want to visit the most. Heard there's a great national park up north
>>532329443I actually did move away for a while, but came back. You can't actually replace the kind of natural environment that Oregon has. The coastal temperate rainforest is its own little world.
>>532326710The coast is desolate. Biggest town is about 10k pop and was same 100 years ago. Every recession wipes the towns out. South coast is best cause its not vacation homes for Portland. A lot of retired Californians though.I5 corridor is usually meth.Willamette Valley is all you ever hear about. Its 70%+ of the population.Bend is turned into faggot city but was a cool high desert city at some point.North east part of the state is a favorite. Mountainous sparse and undiscovered. Neighbor of idaho but doesnt have the same demand as that state has had.South East is a lot of desert. Juniper and sagebrush for days and then only sagebrush.What people miss is 70% of oregon counties are red and rural. We are fucked though cause a lot of our rural areas are national forest so you dont have a lot to compete with Portland. One county decides for the rest of the state literally.Depression caused by SAD and Portlanders are our detractor to keep people out though its failing in recent years.
>>532326710GREATER IDAHO
>>53232671095% niggers or so
>>532332349It used to be. Not it's San Bendardino
>>532326710I love Oregon because of Days Gone but I've heard it's a leftist cesspool
>>532326710I live there, the worst kind of liberal whites in existence live here. The women are either libshit whores, dykes or redneck meth trash with the occasional ukie immigrant. The economy is absolutely awful, if you expect a job in the area you're going to be fucked.
>>532331011You would need to kill over half the white population to make it happen. Oregon is one of a handful of states the majority of white men vote dem.
>>532333645A White person there must either be a demented enough communist freak to want to stay or not have the wherewithal to leave.
>>532327923Fuck your wind farms we don't want them hereWaste of money and big scam I don't want a bunch of broken fins everywhere Oregonians is being robbed blind The state need a audit and quit spending money on bullshit like homeless people
>>532326710Does anything even happen there?
Oregon is the most economically retarded state in the country.Most beautiful state in the country, but they dont want to be wealthy unless its funneling cash to the government office for a new retarded program.When Intel called the state office to discuss a location for the chip making factory, they said no one answered the phone. So they went to Ohio. Were talking one of the biggest state employers.Simultaneous we deleted every rural job cutting back on logging to save an owl.Im convinced its a curse since our last republican senator was the only republican that voted against a balanced budget constitutional amendment in the 1990s. This vote failed by 1. It was a 2/3 vote situation that even Biden voted for as a senator. Cursed.The coast, coastal mountains, cascade mountains, and NE Oregon in wallowa and la grandes County are the best places in Oregon. Klamath gets a special mention too.
>>532333443>State of Jefferson
>>532333502 France flag>leftist cesspoolRead this (to understand all of America, not solely Oregon) : -------- >>532328285
>>532334114Not for you, because you never leave your screen, fuckhead loser. Nature there is great.
its a shitholealso fuck off were full
>>532334113Oregonians need jobs, and to get off of drugs especially in Portland. Portland can still be a great city.
>>532334324Bro it's the whole state, fuck even albany in linn county is now democrat.
Richard Marquette is one of the oldest prison inmates in the United States and Oregonians' tax dollars have been feeding him all these years.
>>532334353>Nature there is great.Too bad you can't enjoy it isn't it bot-kikel?
It was founded upon based principles.
>>532333645>>532333951This makes me think I could dominate them. Been told bad things happen in the woods there though.
>>532334479>albanyYes there's a whole corridor of urban devo along I-5 including Eugene that's blue (plus the several coastal counties).That's not the majority of the state's populace, the population-weight center = Portland/Multnomah County. That is what controls and swings entire state politically, just as in Washington (King County)It is like this in every state, now. Look at Virginia, entire state is determined and run by NoVaIdaho = Boise.Every state is like this now. Being vampired-to-death by a blue urban population-weight center. (Across the western states, these population-weight centers are growing due to migration from/out of California, that's where the demographic vector comes from)
>>532333951>handful of states the majority of white men vote demWrong. It's *all states* now, everywhere there is a population-weight center. Read post aboveIf it's urban (the main population center of any state), it votes Blue/Democrat
>>532334815How oppressive actually is it? I don't think building codes are that bad. Fuck extortionate taxes and rules for what you can grow or what weapons you can carry.
>>532334590If this is what you go to when you’re out of ideas, we’re done here.
>>532334903Cities were always Democrat immigrant shitholes since the 19th century.
>>532334903Cities are just nests of lawyers and bankers who extract value from working rural men. Everyone else in the city serves a lawyer or a banker in some way.
i live in Medford, Oregon.i don't care if this doxes me. I grew up in Medford, went to OSU, moved abroad for 5-6 years, then moved back with my wife from abroad.Already got fired from two of the biggest corporations in the town. Worked for the county roads for a seasonal gig. Unemployed since then. Liberals abound in lots of places. But hey the food coops and local shit is nice if you can afford it. Gonna work for my dad building a house on the coast for a month. Also pursuing an income online. Would like to have my own AI consulting biz locally if I have enough motivation/energy. My relationship is a dumpster fire and we're going to family therapy next week.I was in college when weed became legal. That was fun. But as much as I love it, I think weed makes me fucking stupid so I'm 4 months sober atm. During the winters, pretty much everyone suffers from SAD due to soul sucking overcast skies, cold and rainy weather. There is a solid week every January where the fog gets thick, air doesn't move, and it's suffocating. I really feel like winter makes the state a shit hole. The spring, summers, and fall are all nice. It's honestly beautiful and I am full of energy. Yeah, there are druggies, vagrants, liberals etc. But "rural-ish" Medford has few "undesirables". Generally the neighbors are ok. It's great for hiking. If you don't like hiking, Oregon is not for you.
Very rectangular, needs some tidying at the top. >Bendis my favourite… erm, bit. Bend. A place not just an instruction.Eugene is good too. I wonder if anyone there is called Eugene. Eugene from Eugene. How whacky would that be? Geez America is empty. I was doing a security job once keeping tabs on an embezzler for his employers and I was using taxis as …mumble, mumble, driving licence, something, mumble… and so I had just normal private hire taxi drivers all day driving me around following company cars which are legal to chip and follow. Anywho I got some old grizzled fart taxi driver one day and apparently he’d been driving taxis for the company for 40 years and as a present on his 1,000,000th birthday the company had bought this old timer a trip to America to visit the home of his hero The King of rock & roll mr Elvis Presley. So he was telling me about this and since I’ve never been to America I asked >how did you find America to be, then?and he said he’d been a bit disappointed. Not only was Graceland “too small” and not at all as he had imagined the grand Disneyesque wonder world palace of ‘The King’ would be but all of America in general he said was >”mostly just empty”He seemed to feel cheated. He said there’s vast gaps in between places with just nothing there. Here you can drive from Glasgow to London and as one town ends the next one begins and you wouldn’t know you were passing from town to town unless you knew where the hypothetical boundaries lay. In America he told me you go out of a city and then there’s 500 miles of “nothing” (presumably he meant countryside?) before you are back in another place. Well. Oregano looks very much like my driver described things to be. Empty. Until you get to ‘Bend’. Bend looks important.
The '24 election map also shows Trump did somewhat better than expected in the state, even carrying part of the populous Willamette corridor.
>>532335504It's like that bit of grass at the edge of the carpark yeah, y'know the bit between the main road and the parking spaces, that's like 1 yard wide in Britain, but in america it will be 30 yards wide and employ a whole tribe of aztecs to maintain.
>>532335015>>532335046All I'm pointing out is the last 4 or 5 national U.S. election cycles, look at the nationwide by-county (e.g. >>532335621) maps.The blue votes are coming from about a dozen urban-population weight centers/clusters. That's where all of the national-election 60M+ D votes come from, rest of the entire United States map is all Red.And,the blue population-cluster centers *by-county* are widening and getting larger, due to California flight.Californians are going to these urban centers, and for the 1 house they had owned back in California are buying up 3, or 4, or more homes only one of which they actually live in. In addition to what they do, how they vote as resident of the new state they just colonized
>>532336004Worse is when they sell a suburban lot in the bay area and come and buy 400 acres because they've been really into the homestead movement on youtube. Then they immediately buy 100k worth of heavy machinery and use it to destroy their soil without any idea of how they will maintain their new 6 acre clearing for their house. So many absolute shitshows I've seen of just dust-fly clearings of eroding compacted clay. Sadly all these bubbles have given uber retards unprecedented power to destroy.
i heard they dont track autism rates or somethingI dont think theres sales tax right?Becuase of gambling.the state sometimes pays out a dividend or some shit which is cool.i think the schools are better, funded in tech arts and sciences the teachers have to get masters iirc. theres alot of free people out there so you got kooks of the whole spectrum.for every antifa and rajneesh osho theres a bundy ranch aryan brotherhood.
>>532336275This, ×10,000.It's everywhere now.No good to just make a thread on 'Oregon' about it. Every single state is affected with this cancer, that grows malignant every single minute.(In addition to the cultural-lifestyle motivators you mentioned) Real estate market bubble is a main driver of this, including banks, brokers and the Financialized global economy. Residential real estate is the sole growth sector and spearhead of the U.S. economy rn (and is only 'in a slump' because of everyone holding their breath for interest rates to be relaxed by the central bank; which gets into a whole other order and magnitude of finance and economic topics)
>>532326834We missed you dude.
>>532326710Portland is a dump, everywhere outside of that contamination zone is quite lovely. Been to Shady Cove and Hood River. The views are exquisite and the local eateries are delicious.
>>532327695Unfortunately until the george floyd summer of love gun laws hadn't caught up. we went from having better gun laws than Texas to being worse than New Jersey in one year. meanwhile nigger warlord raz got to hand out AR-15s to children and was never charged for it. every single judge and prosecutor in western washington should be banned from practice.
>>532336594Some guy used crypto millions to basically release a load of bison in my neighborhood lol. In theory he was fencing them in for a reserve but they got out -immediately-. Since it was all being managed remotely from another state they wandered around appearing on trailcams for a few weeks, one of them disappeared completely, and then he hired my neighbor to shoot them.
>>532329443Intel is gayUnfortunately this land is being ceded to the losers
>>532326710It's fucking full.Prices for everything are out of god damn control.Government is 100% a liberal non-profit scam.Portland is literally an open-air mental institution / CIA human experiment lab (not joking)Blackrock jews bought up all the real estate to artificially inflate the prices in Portland in retaliation for all the anti-corporate ballot initiatives, which drove up prices in a 200 mile radius.Don't come here unless you're coming here to kill rich people, or start white power militias, or whites only communes.rural Oregon is beatiful, but it's not friendly or welcoming and there is almost zero opportunity if you don't already have something going for you.
>>532337043> Blackrock bought up all the real estate to artificially inflate the prices in PortlandAs a property owning white male, I sure hope so
>>532337043>kill rich peopleFuck that commie shit kill poor people
>>532336452Schools are some of the worst in the nation here.
>>532337043>but it's not friendly or welcomingIn a good way like tribal or in a bad way like they're old fats who resent competent white men for taking 1 out of a million local acres and trying to make it productive
>>532337128You really don't understand that you're not rich, and that you don't have power do you.I own too. What the increased prices have done is destroyed 'the community' that I loved, which is why I bought here. It made it so that the only people who could afford to buy, or even move here, are bay area tech refugees, which bring their own shitty liberal with them. Prioritizing your personal stake is what eventually allows retard yuppie liberals to eat your community. I don't want my homes value to go up because then my fucking property taxes jump, and I plan on living here until I die.
>>532337465It's because he has no clue of what money is, how it is created. (IOW he doesn't understand or comprehend the global finance/banking system that drives and propels all of this, and the real estate gigabubble, wherever we are in the United States)>the only people who could afford to buy, or even move here, are bay area tech refugeesThis. (and see previous posts upthread, it's a nationwide phenomena now)
>>532337375that's a great way to put it.Eastern Oregon is amazing, but yeah, if you aren't local, they don't want you regardless of who you are and what you're about. Fortunately, there is enough space that interactions are a choice.I would love enough acres to be self-sufficient. I have chickens, but I want milk cows, goats, and enough room to grow produce and grains.
>>532326710hopeless
>>532337674It's easier just to be the guy who grows x and trade with your neighbours But yeah fuck grumpy old boomers opinions. So many people worry about what some old fuck thinks to himself as he frowns in his shack.
Oregon had a bunch of crazy lefties that were home grown that achieved a permanent legislative majority by California liberals immigrating to the state en masse. Now they run the asylum.
>>532337831A vague but also accurate summary
>>532326710I fucking loved Burgerville as a kid.Wonder how it held up.
>>532326710One of the most beautiful places in the world in terms of the naturalistic scenery. The name "Oregon" makes me think of a name of a fictional land from fantasy.
>>532337181We sacrificed everything to be trans nation. During covid kids couldnt even bother entering a classroom just for an attendance point. Then the counselors would come and let them make it up by doing 10 homework assignments after the end of quarter to fix their grade. By the end a kid could just claim they were unhappy and the teacher would grant them a B. This is in one of the top rated high schools in the state.Our birth rate is south Korea bad. We're one of the worst in the nation. The big question is who's gonna replace us. The states already made up of a lot of imports. Is it gonna be the pacific spicwest? I tell people to put an Amish person in your will to inherit your property. One Amish will save this state from damnation in a century.People say we're California but 10 to 20 years slower. We dont like California's which means we especially dont want to make money like California's but everything else is kosher in terms of bad policy.Theres a reason in a century we've had two major separatist movements in the state of Jefferson and now greater idaho.I remember a random dude talking to me in the bathroom. I never talk to people but he just had to share his shower thought. He told me you either leave this state or you stay poor forever.Scare off big business? CheckPrevent new business from happening? CheckHorrible wildland fire management? CheckTaxing everything? CheckUsing an owl to destroy rural communities? CheckLegalizing personal possession of all drugs to invite the worst of the worst? CheckHaving the whitest major city turn itself into a cesspit in 2020? CheckTurning one of the more pro gun states into one of the least in an election? CheckOnly come here if you can ignore politics both mentally and economically.This state only supports diggers, Trans, and junkies. Everything else is off the menu
>t.north of the Columbia Other than port,salem,and eugene it's Idealic and Baste
>>532333385> South East is a lot of desert. Juniper and sagebrush for days and then only sagebrush.Yeah, but it also has Steens and Alvord Desert. The area around there incredibly beautiful.
>>532337985>Horrible wildland fire management? Checkthats putting it lightly the fucking lizard kikes attempted to burn the entire woods down on purpose in aug '20 to dunk on the conservatives and drive as many rural working residents out as possible. no theyve come up with this cockamamy ruse to hold the electric utilities financially liable so as to bankrupt them and force govt takeover
>>532338503I was a fire lookout then. Got stuck on hwy 20 during the windstorm on my way home after 12 days on. We had 20 trees blocking the road East-West. Dozens of cars backed up in the dead of night. Some of us brought out hatchets machetes saws to clear it and get out. Someone eventually came out with a chainsaw. We were cheering the dude on like he was hercules.Scary as hell that night cause the forest was pitch and dead silent. After a beat though a gush of wind blew through and you'd just hear snapping in the dark like the forest was alive with tree ents. Everyone paused their chopping and sawing every time it happened to look out in the dark to see if theyd get a taste of timber.I got to be the last one out when i spoke to law enforcement that arrived on scene at the end to ask if they needed help. The highway closed for months after.We sent in a specialized team on a tiny fire before the wind storm even started but they spent the entire night in retreat. Every couple hours they had to reset their station west closer to Salem. If I recall the fire grew to over 100,000 acres overnight.Other than the apocalypse orange skies I loved seeing the signs of the evacuated townsThe based people are just in hiding
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>>532326710I went there once to visit my friend I left to catch my flight from downtown portland and outside his apartment were a ton of feral tweakers and a cop just watching them It was such a depressing city I don't think I'd like living there
>>532339400Can't forget this gem either.
>>532339400>apocalypse orange skiesthe faggots in pdx didnt get the smoke for a day or so and thought the rednecks were just chimping out over nuffinthat was such a fucked summer in general and things have never recovered
>>532339605its was full blown mossad terrorism then. they were paying crackheads to start fires everywhere and it was a wpnder a hillbilly shootout didnt start up south of clackamas
>>532339734fixed picel t. fonefagget
very few niggers
>>532339605another gem from that week
>>532329443>they're literally talking about banning all types of huntingbased if true
>>532326710Was awesome until everyone found out how beautiful it was and now the state has been flooded with people that don't understand its culture or history and now its going to become just another west coast shit hole. Idaho is next but lucky for them that state is red.
>>532341172>bill would criminalize all animal husbandry by redefining it as bestialty >memeflaggot fuck off and die ranjeet we prefer our food has parents here
>>532341597>bill would criminalize all animal husbandry by redefining it as bestialtyholy based, who thought it could get even better
toilet bowl
>>532341221>lucky for them*Wrong.*Same outcome for Idaho as Washington and Oregon.(and Utah, and Nevada, and Colorado, and Montana, and New Mexico...)
>>532326710Astoria is the best city in America.
>>532343111checked, it's a nice city (picturesque part of the coast, mouth of Columbia) but most of it is constructed on landslide hazard terraint. geologist
>>532326710Shithole. All of norcal and above are complete fucking white trash.
>>532326710turbo faggots
>>532327365Rogue's dead and gone now
>>532326950Isn't Eastern Oregon kind of a whole different world from Portland though?
>>532328085Democrat even of 20 years ago isn't really the same thing as modern wokism. Barack Obama of 2008 would arguably be a moderate Republican by todays standards.
>>532326710>want to name state columbia>senator is worried people will confuse it for district of columbia>name is washington insteadpotteryshoutout to geoff
>>532326710It would be fucking awesome if Portland, Eugene, and Portland were nuked.
