https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/microsoft-says-copilot-is-for-entertainment-purposes-only-not-serious-use-firm-pushing-ai-hard-to-consumers-tells-users-not-to-rely-on-it-for-important-advice
>>532337721Lamo.Things normal people knew 4 years ago.
The only use-case for AI sloppa is gooning.
>>532337779Fpbp
>>532337779but what does it tell you?if sequence of words/sentences are articulated with certainty and confidence they come across as truth to npcs point being that you good chunk is stuck between regards and regardsit is a regard samwichhowever these models are good for what they are built fortheir salesman ceo glow fronts on the other hand need to commit sudoku
>>532337721spic for yourself it help me to do my homework in 30 minutes.
>>532337721To be fair copilot is shit. Claude is better for programming
>>532337721the business people are using it just fine and dont need to be coerced into it because ai is really nice for low level things that just waste time doing like 75% of coding.the goycattle need to be coerced into using it for entertainment because they cant find more ways to monetize it and its becoming an economic loss for them and if the government subsidies run out theyre losing money with it.
>>532337721>indian company>forcefed AI>wokemeisterInstall Linux Mint on a usb key (yes you can boot it from there) and start trying out
>>532338034>Claude is better for programmingmany are saying this.
>>532337779If you spent 5 minutes even with an AI that can code anyone would know not to trust it to code correctly, you have to double check it's output and it frequently makes mistakes, even chatbots give out very incorrect information. AI's value is in entertainment, entertainment production and rapid prototyping and must be double checked to have any semblance of reliable output, otherwise it's a novelty. It's not useless but it has severe limitations.
>>532338082>75% of codingYou will never be a real programmer html jeet.
>>532338222Do you work in tech?
>>532337721>copilot-is-for-entertainment-purposes-onlythe cope
>>532338027> spic for yourselfSounds like an immigration policy slogan.One spic for me, two more spics for thee.
>>532337721>multi billion dollar AI assistant “just for fun” Why bother with this crap?If you want something “for fun” just use a free model like clawbot
>>532338402kek
>>532338082Doesn’t matterIt will all sort itself out.The dead weight will die off and bloated corps will go bust while the best ones will survive and be leaner/better for it.
>>532338516yeah. gdp worship has ruined this country>>532338271not a jeet but you are right about not being a programmer. if this scheme ever dries up, im out of a job and back to regular wagin. if youre not jewing the jewish jew system, youre just a dumbass goy.
>>532338298I do, he is right
>>532338628Mmm I’ve heard people saying that ai is doing their jobs and that they don’t need programmers anymore but I’m not sure
>>532338516We will see currently the models are still running at a massive loss. Especially if energy prices go up
>>532337721>its really ai>it's actually indians!>it's self aware!>it's just a toy!
>>532337721I tried using it at work once. It made up a load of nonsense and then lied about it repeatedly
Yawn this happens to every up and coming industry. They will return stronger as usual.
>>532338735This is impossible to sustain forever and they all know it, they just want to ride out the hype wave and be the last man (or handful of men) standingMost likely one big corporate model will survive, imo probably Gemini because Google can afford it and it’s better than Microsoft’s copilot which is garbage.Otherwise the market will be dominated by cheap lean models people can run remotely.
>>532337873>The only use-case for AI sloppa is gooning.THIS. OpenAI would actually be profitable if they would ditch their Victorian attitudes about sex and let you generate NSFW text and images. Even Sora would have been profitable. But Sam Altman would rather go bankrupt then let his precious AI write a horrible word like "boobies."
>>532338793That's like saying physics will return stronger even though there haven't been any new discoveries in 300 years.
>>532338697It can help with analysing logs, compiling reports, creating simple scripts and I've even seen people using it to generate unit tests.If properly trained, it could be used as a search tool over the codebase and documentation.However, no model I have seen yet is capable of creating complex code which needs to interact with multiple heterogeneous components, and furthermore it's output must be verified very thoroughly.t. low level programmer for 25+ years
>>532338697>they don’t need programmerslmao see you in five years to dig you out of your impossible technical debt for a hefty price
>>532338697There are likely scenarios where it can do a lot. And it can write certain parts of your codebase for sure, but if you don't review the output intensely you will be pushing crap code at some point, which will have consequences.Guess what's the most boring thing when coding.It is useful and allows you to write code faster at times, but what happens then? A bug occurs and people who rely heavily on agents and auto complete actually struggle figuring out what went wrong.When you look at a bunch of agent written code, you might think, well looks good to me, but since you didn't write it you will be missing a lot of smaller details that likely bite you in the back later.I am probably the only developer on our team who barely uses AI for coding, the codebase I don't maintain are absolute bug ridden messes, and take longer and longer to solve bugs in, duplicate code duplicate implementations with slight variations, bad optimization etc.AI seems to shine at prototyping, but also if you don't actually go in and fix the codebase, you will likely have an poorly optimised mess.I guess it could be helpful for short lived marketing products, but any critical infrastructure will be a big do not want.
>>532337873It's VHS vs Betamax again. Gooners choose the winner
>>532338915Idk, the cost of that kind of stuff is likely higher than you expect. Ideally you let it write code, that would be less problematic for energy consumption.
>>532339132Have to revert to pre-AI commits and start over because nobody knows what generated bullshit does.
>>532339253Oh ok thanks for sharing your experience.Sometimes is hard to distinguish between genuine posts and marketing shills claiming that they will replace everybody
>>532337873It's incredible to me that people got so fucking hypnotized by AI porn, that it took the job marketing imploding, and the internet to get substantially worse, for your average 4chan user to say, "hey, maybe this thing isn't awesome after all."
>>532339356It's going to be like outsourcing, but worse. Millions of lines of code businesses depend on to such an extent they can't roll it back, but the accumulated tech debt means they can't move forward without the house of cards crumbling. Execs thought they were finally getting rid of us with this LOL
>>532337721>AY EYE>IZ>DA FEWCHA>,,, [for entertaininment purposes only]it ain't called>microslopfor nothing
>>532339041Sorry I didn’t see your reply.Personally I’ve never used AI for programming because it scares me unironically Kek
>>532339386For someone like me the entire buzz around it is pretty demotivating. I just want to work on efficient software, not churn out slop.
>>532337721> micropoos can't ship usable software wowmulti trillion multi cap after killing all their legacy products btw because "azure"
>>532338222What you’re really relying on is how people don’t understand >etc
>tell AI to be a horse >mentions hands all the timeI knew it was garbage
>>532338871Gemini directly eats into Google's core business model of advertising, that's why they were the last to deploy.Gemini will not survive unless, paradoxically, the US Government actually breaks Google up like Standard Oil or Bell.The model most likely to survive is Grok because Elon can singlhandedly keep it afloat. OpenAI and Anthropic cannot manage their costs like Elon already does.
>>532339958That’s a good point, basically the model needs to be decent enough to be useful and have a stable userbase (unlike copilot) but also enough financial weight behind them to last through this hype period.
>>532339594I mean I hope this is true, but I'm not sure it will happen. Once you ship with the slop you can just keep slopping. That's what Anthropic is doing right now on their own products (Claude Code was clearly at least partially slopped based on the leaks). They aren't profitable yet but they're still generating billions with this slopped product.
>>532338298I do and i confirm. LLM are really good for PoC or automatize dumb tasks as summary of a meeting
>>532340109It's basically following the same trajectory outsourcing to places like India did. Businesses see how cheap it is, so they churn out some products with it. But as the product grows, so to does the backlog of bugs, and ultimately the final state is steaming pile of shit where nobody but the best can do anything without introducing regression. If you've been brought in to bail companies out of outsource slop, it should be readily apparent this is the direction we're headed.
>>532340131It's good as a search engine. And that's it.
>>532337721Can I e-fuck Co-pilot or is it all lame and censored?
>>532340639there's some random shit i saw on facebook where you can disable it, and i dun did itdon't remember the source, but there's a way
>>532338106>forcing age verification etc. on youOh no linuxsisters
>>532340686Interrrrrrsting. Thank you, anon.
>>532339766Checked.There's nothing scary in it. It's not AGI, current models are good at talking, but it's just a veneer, they aren't capable of logical thinking.That being said, it would be a mistake to ignore their capabilities. They are useful, if utilised with their limitations on mind. Locally trained LLM could be very handy as an expert system over any knowledge base, for example.
>>532337721So it's officially as stupid as Psychics and gambling. Good to have confirmation from the source.
>>532340381That may be true to an extent but it is already replacing people. My friend is a networking guy in Colombia and he said Cisco recently replaced all the low level Colombian techs with a chatbot. Also this article is about Copilot, which isn't even in the runnings as far as real world adoption goes.I do think the capabilities of these things are somewhat overblown but I think you're mistaken if you think this is just like outsourcing.
>>532342157yes they are very good for tasks that 'i work in da office' do. that is easy 50% up to 80% of all office type employees, be it tech or non-techllms can replace them right now with ease.open source ones.
>>532337721wake me up when ssds and hdds are affordable again
Claude is amazing. I've had it write 100s of scripts and it has never got them wrong. Debugs code perfectly too.
"Average" users need Copilot even less. Copilot just fucks with their shit, like deleting the text in a document because Copilot decided WORDS WORDS WORDS tl;dr. Meanwhile, Microsoft's pajeet programmers NEED Copilot to vibecode in Reflex and their pajeet CEO mandates usage of Copilot.
>>532337721If it was for entertainment it would not have been a mandatory invasive upgrade to every microjeet product.
>>532337721New AI bubble cope thread just dropped. The AI train has left the station. You lost.
>>532346809They all debug things instantly. Shit that would have taken me hours or maybe even a day to figure out, they figure out instantly. That to me was one of the craziest parts. It's not just code either, I use them to help debug my Linux issues and router configs and shit.
>>532337721"Haha, it was just a joke the whole time. X billion $ joke, goy."
>>532338027Obviously your homework is entertainment
>>532337721this is fake news retard
>>532337873Almost every AI is censored hard against that. Even the AI's that are supposed to be unfiltered. Obvious agenda is obvious
