Wong Kim Arks parents were "Permanent Residents" who were "Domiciled" in San Francisco and held "Allegiance" to the United States of America when they gave birth to Wong Kim Ark. They were not Temporary Visa Holders/Sojourners/Workers, nor were they Illegal Migrants.To be protected under the 14th Amendment you need more than to be "subject to the laws of the united states" as was determined in Elk v. Wilkins (1884) where it was ruled that one must be "completely subject to the united states political jurisdiction" and "owing them (the united states) direct and immediate allegiance."This was later reaffirmed in 1898 with United Sates v. Wong Kim Ark in which the word "Domicile" was used 28 times, and the word "Allegiance" was used 114 times. What was the legal definition of "domicile" in 1898?>Domicile: Lawful presence with the intention to stay permanently. What was the legal definition of "Allegiance" in 1884?>Complete/Permanent/Natural Allegiance: an intrinsic obligation of loyalty to the government from birth.>Partial/Temporary/Local Allegiance: Owed in return for the protection provided by the sovereign during a sojourners stay.Notice the difference between Complete Allegiance and Temporary Allegiance, this is why in both Wong Kim Ark (1898), Elk v. Wilkins (1884), and dozens upon dozens of examples going back to The Pizarro (1817) go to great lengths to mention Domicile and the varying degrees of Allegiance an Alien and a Citizen may hold with whatever sovereigns soil they are standing on.
>>532341570They gotta go back and thats that, plenty of room in sudan if they have nowhere to go.
>>532341570No they wont
>>532341801>in sudanIf it was me, I would never accept Sudan.I would've demanded somewhere North with some woods.
>>532341570If this were true, it's the best thing trump did for the country by a Longshot. If we don't fix demographics, we have no future
>>532341570Birthright citizenship is so retarded.What is even the argument in favour of it? Do any countries apart from the US even have it? We definetly don't have it here in Australia.
>>532341570>intrinsic obligation of loyalty to the government from birthlmao get fucked. 90% of people would immediately swear loyalty to any other government promising to kill their own.
>>532342392Okay, kike. Maybe more wars and displacement will totally fix that! Fucking retard.
>>532342392It’s totally reasonable for a country like America. It just never applied to illegals.
>>532341570you are an extreme schizo and a spammer
>>532342392It’s substantially an American tradition
>>532342563>No, you're the kikeFuck off, chang. No more anchor babies for you, slime.
>>532342392It's obvious from an international standpoint. Someone is a citizen of where they were born. Otherwise you have people with no citizenship and countries shipping them wherever the fuck expecting someone else to deal with them.Same reason you can't refuse entry to your own citizens.Killing the children and the parents makes more sense legally speaking.
>>532342392The argument in favor is "look at this sad child, dissolve your borders immediately", and because we let women govern and interpret the law, it works
>>532342392It absolutely is. They literally have hundreds of agencies in China to assist with scamming this moronic policy.
>>532341570>there are ONE MILLION PLA anchor babies voting in strategic US representative elections>Bugs PAY bounties for anchorbabies for DECADES nowTOTAL DENATURALIZATION.FRAUD VITIATES ALL.
The basis of birthright citizenship was just the legal trick the Union did when they freed the nigger slaves. They said "well you nigger slaves were born here on this land so you're Americans" when even Abraham Lincoln wanted to ship them back to Africa.of course since the Union has always been run by corrupt jewish merchants they kept it on the books so any turd worlders they brought could plop out a fecaloid but we'll slap a tag on your chest and say CONGRATULATIONS YOU'RE AN [ETHNIC]-AMERICAN! NOW GET BACK TO SLAVING TO MAKE MR. SHEKELBERG RICHER
>>53234239299% of the case they have a parent, and can be deported with them.in the tiny small cases they dont then sure, give them citizenship, but thats a miniscule number.
>>532342586>>532342754Nations should, and almost always do, offer citizenship to the children their citizens regardless of where they are born.If the nation of your parents do not grant you citizenship and you are stateless then you should apply for asylum in whatever country you are in, and it should probably be granted. But this should be a very rare occurrence because like I said pretty much every nation immediately grants citizenship to the children of their citizens. Entry should be barred for people travelling from nations that do not do this.Problem solved.
>>532341570Jesus holy ChristDo a fucking constitutional amendment, if that's so important for you. You can change the Constitution, it just takes a ton of votes.If you don't have the votes, it means the people don't care for your bullshit
Making the same thread over and over isn't going rescue your doomed case faggot
>>532343680I'd be worried but you don't have a counterargument
>>532341570I called it weeks ago! Commies will seethe, troons will eye the fetty way out, and KBJ will take the brownest of dumps on the floor while screeching like a nigger witch on fire.
who fucking caresamerica is done either way
>>532342392>What is even the argument in favour of it?picrel
>>532343872Your whole argument is laughable: that people immigrated or just visiting here aren't subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.>be furriner>come to New York<do crime>cops show up>oh no you're a furriner? if only there was some way we could arrest you boohoo>go on crime spree because I'm not subject to the jurisiction of the United States>mfwThat's how stupid you sound>muh owing of allegiancethe content of people's hearts isn't mentioned in the 14thA and would in any case not be admissible given its inherent subjectivityYou're gonna lose and the seething will be most entertaining, 30 years of legal masturbation down the toilet. You can try again in 2055
>>532343568Democrats won't budge on it. And Republicans always have one or two who side with them. Probably worse now given how unpopular Trump is. Midterms aren't going to be pretty, either.
>>532342660>the Chad birthright citizenship
>>532345280And so what, you throw a tantrum because neither the People nor the Supreme Court will let you do your shit?Come on. Be a big boy and go back to sucking on Bibi's thumb.Also in November the Democrats might have the numbers to pass their own Constitutional Amendments, that's going to be fun.
>>532344964>people visting here aren't subject to the jurisdictionyou fundamentally do not understand the argumentJurisdiction is not a binary on/off switch otherwise there wouldn't be exceptionsJurisdiction means allegiance, and allegiance of an alien present in another country is determined by domicile and that precedent set by SCOTUS goes back to The Venus (1814), The Koszta Affair (1853), Elk v. Wilkins (1883), Fong Yue Ting (1893), Law Ow Bew (1892), and finally with Wong Kim Ark in 1898.
>>532342392Triple guess from my flag.It is a common trick even among refugees here.The look for a dumb white girl to get her, avoid authorities while already having the deportation order on them and wait for the birth.This makes not only the child german, but also makes basically impossible to deport the father once its born.It became an entire industry of leaf leaning lawyers to stall for time.
>>532341570>SCOTUS TO RULE 7-2 IN TRUMPS FAVOR ON BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP
>>532345809NoI've studied all those cases, the legislative history etc for nearly 20 years. The bottom line is that you want something to be legally true that isn't. WKA ain't getting overturned, and I can't wait for the torrent of salty conservative tears that's going to flow a few months from now.ps: faggot
>>532342392>Birthright citizenship is so retarded.It is to prevent the government from suddenly deciding you are no longer a citizen because reasons and stripping all of your rights, even if you and your family had been citizens for hundreds of years. Jewish lawmakers did take it a bit far though and abused the wording to grant citizenship to anyone that managed to make it across the border in the 11th hour of their pregnancy
>>532346077>nuh uhtypical non argument
>>532346349>some random>unsourced law>from his assyou know judaism comes from a nigger's ass too, right?you being the niggerand the jew, obviously
>>532341570TRUMP NUMBER ONE WOO HOO
>>532346582>unsourced lawthe source is in the filename retardI already mentioned it above Law Ow Bew (1892)Pic related is another one, can you figure out where this is from?
>>532341570I wish this were true but all the liberal judges will rule against and most likely at least Roberts and Barett with them. Only Thomas and Alito are guaranteed votes for Trump.
>>532342392It made total sense when most immigrants were white europeans. Even white niggers like italians, irish and polacks were a net positive for society and economy. Once you start brining 3rd shitskins the concept collapses
there's practically no chance for this to happen, but we'll see in summer
