Now that AI makes anyone with a laptop into Bill Gates, how will society handle the influx of innovative software? Your average person can now change the entire world on a whim.
>>532343754The age of prompt engineers is upon us, jeets live for ai, is india really going to become superpooper?
>>532343754retarded take
What a horrible, dangerous attitude. Not saying AI can't be used for software development, but to think it will instantly generate good software is retarded
im not gonna reply because this board is... honestly I dont have the energy to reply. take it or leave it.the honest truth is, claude code w/ opus 4.6 is godsend. it is literally as if I have an entire army of juniors. It can sculpt and draw BEAUTIFULLY... BUT IT SOMETIMES FORGETS TO DRAW EYES; then you tell it to draw eyes and.... now you haev an amazing face.that's the best way I can sum it up with. In my honest opinion, there are just software architects now. Writing code by hand isn't even worth doing for "refining" anymore; it's genuinely more of a hobby thing or if you're writing in some language that an LLM cannot reliably do.
>>532343754Deport jeets and then rangeban india from our internet. And kikes/israel.
>>532343920Yup, we're managers/architects now. A non-technical person using claude will produce SHIT
>>532344092Not true, my roommate has never coded a day in his life and he built an ecommerce site from scratch to compete with Ticketmaster. Did it in 1 weekend. It's going live tomorrow. He's going to be laughing all the way to the bank.
>>532343754You still need to put a lot of time into development, just vibe coding gets you at best a fast prototype
>>532343754Why only software engineers not all white collar jobs?
>>532344295There is not a single person on Earth who still writes code. Not unless that person lives under a rock and hasn't heard of AI.
>>532344564Lmao kid you have no idea.
>>532344606There's a lot of coping going around by people afraid of losing their jobs and becoming obsolete.We're entering a new era where there are far more people than there are jobs available. The competition will be bitter. People will work 24/7 to afford a loaf of bread.
>>532344210Cant wait for it to be exploited. Its cute like minecraft until someone comes with tee n tee and blow up your world. I am pretty sure you and many others will eventuslly hit exploits like midnight pulse or just get fucked by a hacker that exploited your non up to date (insert your subcomponent here) software where you wish you didnt have this idea at all.
>>532344727If LLMs can write good code then we'll be flooded with good software any day now.Not seeing it yet but maybe in two more weeks?
>>532344606He's right though. At least for basic stuff.
>>532344879there was no need in this flood at the first placeLike literaly, devs market were saturated enough. For example - Even in games you can see a lot of releases, too bad 99% of them are garbage and millions are wasted, only to get lulz for "another concord drown the company into closing"
>>532343754AI can't even do shit right in excel lmao wtf are these people on about
>>532345436YOUR AI can't my AI could force open the Strait of Hormuz any day I want I just don't want it, that's all
>>532343754https://www.wheresyoured.at/the-ai-industry-is-lying-to-you/#llms-are-destroying-big-tech-from-the-inside>>LLMs Are Destroying Big Tech From The InsideLLMs allow even the most incompetent dullard to do an impression of a software engineer, by which I mean you can tell it “make me software that does this” or “look at this code and fix it” and said LLM will spend the entire time saying “you got this” and “that’s a great solution.” The problem is that while LLMs can write “all” code, that doesn’t mean the code is good, or that somebody can read the code and understand its intention (as these models do not think), or that having a lot of code is a good thing both in the present and in the future of any company built using generative code. LLM-based code is often verbose, and rarely aligns with in-house coding guidelines and standards, guaranteeing that it’ll take far longer to chew through, which naturally means that those burdened with reviewing it will either skim-read it or feed it into another LLM to work out what the hell to do.Think about this very, very simply for a second: you have given every engineer in the company the explicit remit to write all their code using LLMs, and incentivized them to do so by making sure their LLM use is tracked. You have now massively increased both the operating costs of the company (through token burn costs) and the volume of code being created. To be explicit, allowing an LLM to write all of your code means that you are no longer developing code, nor are you learning how to develop code, nor are you going to become a better software engineer as a result. This means that, across almost every major tech company, software engineers are being incentivized to stop learning how to write software or solve software architecture issues.
>>532345579based same me and my AI are allready solving the time hole bore paradox
>>532343754>high qualitydoubt.jpg
>>532344727Nigger crud apps and business sites were jeeted 15 years ago. This is millennial offshoring. Wow, the browns can 10x work but their work was a race to the bottom since the international internet came on line. It’s like the rise of procedural games/entertainment Shit gets old and its unoriginal .
>>532343893This. Developers can be semi replaced, software engineers and architects cant.Wait until a prompted software becomes a behemoth and breaks. Who is going to fix it?
Im a game developer (solo) and I started back in 2018. I haven't made a whole lot of money, but it's been a decent supplemental income. Because of AI it feels like I have maybe a year left of development before AI games completely flood the market and it makes it impossible for small developers to stick out.
>>532345734That's stupid. You just tell the AI to fix it and it does. It can code faster than any person can.
>>532343754>high qualityYeah ok lol
>>532343893You are clouded by your vision of right now. 5 years ago no one ever thought the dall-e garbage images would be turned into what AI is currently capable of. Sure vibecoding right now is a joke, but soon enough AI will be able to code better than 99.99% of the population. AI robots will make the hardware. AI robots will package the products. AI robots will drive the trucks and fly the planes to distribute the products. The future is AI no matter what libtard retard artist making 100 dollars on patreon a month thinks. The only question that remains is will UBI come in time for the great job replacement? Because if it doesn't people may start overthrowing their governments.
>>532343754>Buggy llm jeetslop applications copypasted by dhalit indentured slaves are the futurekek I very much doubt that, although im sure Chinese engineers will leverage Ai tools to a great extent when they are building the future (that silicon Valley will play absolutely no role in)
>>532343754>high quality software infinitely available Is someone going to tell Microsoft about this?
>>532343754If LLMs were so great, they wouldn't be forced to provide access to them so they can learn directly from the users. And they wouldn't provide access to them at all. Why share when the CEO of any of those companies could just log in one day and ask "shitgpt, throw up an app like uber", "make me a warcraft"?
>>532345829And 99.9% of the population will still have absolutely no fucking idea what good software even looks like. The acceptance criteria is "I can see the UI and it doesn't throw an exception"No matter how good the AI is at writing code it will never solve the retarded stakeholder
>>532344564>There is not a single person on Earth who still writes code.I can't tell if anon is trying to make a joke here or just that underage.
Lisa from accounts just made an app!OH WOWEZES!!!!!!!We are about to have a few years where we end up with more abandonware and vapourware the world has ever seen. And a lot of the talented engineers will have long left the market.At some point, AI companies are going to have to start charging a shitload more for their "products" given that OpenAI has yet to turn a profit and it's shareholders are looking at a £75Bn bill to replace obsolete hardware that it in itself has not turned a profit either.The bubble will burst. And on top of that, most companies will go down the pan, bar the likes of Google and Microsoft who have already bet the farm on it and must double down on it.The need for actual engineers will return. But it will be too late as the good ones will have left and companies will demand the skillset of 20+ experienced engineers for minimum wage as they have already become addicted to AI costs.It's cool. Most software engineers who were clever and got good qualifications and didn't learn on the job will diversify into other fields. Most companies that buy headlong into AI will fail.
>>532343754>high quality software is infinitely availableNo. You can prompt an infinite amount of mediocre slop but you still need to hire a 40+ year old white guy for quality software
>>532345829you literaly are brainless idiot who thinks he understand somethingtry to learn what llm actualy is and be horrified that just a complex but still an autocompleter with 0 awarness whatsoeverAnd creating giant context for it, so it cant predict at least somewhat correcly raises the cost exponentaly
>>532343754>innovative softwarekek
>>532345829Not so fast nerd
>>532343754discoveryanyone being able to make software does not mean anyone making GOOD softwarethe real value in the future is using AI to find shit that doesn't fucking suck fucking dogshitwhich probably means making your own slop
>>532346010and I think that is okay for us who can think we can exploit and in turn we gain more power than them in a world dominated by AI and face value code
>>532345795Yeah but you’re going to have to pay money for access to an ai that can read thousands of lines of code and think of a fix and implement it. Context windows and memory is a thing. Only if you know what you are doing / know what you are looking for will you be able to abuse it. If you just type “fix it” you will run out of tokens and have to pay the ai jew.
>>532346048He's just priming the pump so to speak for mass layoffs of Americans (and eventually a lot of offshore Indians) so they can import of infinity h1b's to keep the AI/commercial RE/etc bubbles alive. These tech faggots are actually spectacularly cooked and they know it.
>>532346167holy shit you are a retard. no engineer worth their salt is paying some nigger jew for ai
>>532345829Software quality is at the worst point ever.Just look at all modern videogames. Recources hog, constant micro stuttering and offer nothing in visuals over 10 years old games. Modern jeet and now AI coding can only produce turd.
>>532343920Lmao another victim of AI dellusion e.g. the Big Donning-Kruger amplificator>>532345622Thank you
>>532346139funny.i am a pro blacksmithi can run my shop without electricitythe skills and knowledge i have keep mankind by definition out of the stone agecut the electric power, which will happen soon, and all these electronic gimmicks are worthlessnot me and my skills.the farmers will come running to feed me...picrel: one of my babies
>>532346397This guy is personally responsible for foisting Javascript onto the world, arguably one of the worst things to ever happen in the history of computers
The productivity gains are already visible. I needed to refactor existing legacy code last week and now I can do so in minutes rather than hours. Still need to check whether the code works correctly. But suddenly I’m feeling ‘fake’ experienced in a technology and can produce pretty decent results. Also had plenty of ideas for additional features and architecture.If you have some background in CS and are somewhat creative, AI will supercharge you. If you just know how to code you’re doomed.
>>532343887Very retarded. It's funny how the CEOs and people who are in charge of the technology always find a way to gatekeep it and tell us normal folk "uh oh! We only have a limited time left before it all goes haywire!". It's the same BS Everytime. They said TV would turn people to mindless zombies (it did but it didn't destroy everyone), they said the Y2K doomsday would destroy us, and now the AI bubble is the new tech doomsday scenario. The problem is that there are very smart people who end up missing because they were smart enough to understand the power of the technology available to people but just dumb enough to think about using it in a positive fashion that would benefit mankind. I'm tired of the tech CEO faggotry Zuck, Besos, and Musk ushered in. Tired of it.
>>532346501>*uses a magnet to steal your shop from a safe distance*Nothing personal, chump.
ok so where are all those 1 person billion dollar apps and shit? all I'm seeing is a bunch of scams that don't do shit and just bait money from VC funds.
>>532344879It can't write good code but it can write code on par with 90% of the slop in itunes/google play store that people are charging for
>>532347032What's funny is the AI companies have the most access to this apparently magical resource, but we don't see them doing it either.Like where the fuck is claude.ai/showcase with all the dazzling websites and apps.
>>532346501It's not going to be that easy anon. It's good that you have a skill and that you are knowledgeable on the subject but there are many factors in determining your survival overall. You're not living in an elder scrolls game where everyone is going to be calm and lined up for your "services". You're not going to easily find people to "feed" you. You will most likely be very stressed and on edge 24/7 in protecting your assets and tools. What will most likely happen is the military of your country will step in, cease your forge and supplies and put you to work among their ranks IF you're as good as you say you are. The military will always have more food, power, and resources than the shitty Providence you live in. No offense just being realistic.
>>532347302What is claude
I was writing low level code for years. It got farmed out to India and I had to move to a glorified crud that, ironically, used an API which accessed all my old code, now maintained by jeets.Performance of my old code has plummeted. The jeets simply do not know what they are doing. I will occasionally have a look at my old codebase only to find that they lack a core understanding of the domain. Sometimes you may find a check in where it looks like someone in jeetland knows what they are doing syntactically, i.e. someone is experienced in C. But they still don't understand why they are making this thing.The CRUD shit can be done all day with Claude code.Companies want it all cheap and quick. And what suffers is quality. They won't accept it's even happening even in real time. The cost saving and speed is all about keeping up with the competition. And let's be honest, CRUD ain't shit. Any first year university student should be able to produce a simple CRUD system. If they can't then they're not worth looking at at junior level when they do graduate.Like I say. We will see a lot of things becoming un-maintainable even with AI, or even not very performant. Companies will demand old school developers return to their roles in 5-6 years when they have already re-skilled elsewhere for less money than even apprentices are on now and be gobsmacked when they get zero applicants.
What a clown even the operating systems have been useless since XP
>>532344210don't forget to keep us posted
>>532343754>high quality software is infinitely availablelol
>>532347499province* sorry typo
>>532347499Seize* another typo.
>>532343920ive been doing some crazy shit with cc. nerds cant gate keep software any more. coding is the only thing these bots are good at.
>>532343893What they mean by good software is the capability to do a task.The software doesn't have to cover every edge case or even to be safe online, but it can do the task you asked it to do with very little effort.
>>532345795>You just tell the AI to fix it and it does.If anyone actually believed that there would be 4 million newly laid off devs and engineers in the US alone right now saving massive amounts of money from unnecessary payroll.
>>532343754Shill topic and retard talking points. Also doesn't belong on this board.
>>532344210Cool, but where did he get the 100M for the marketing campaign from?>>532345622 >>532346025 Why would AI stop to become better now?
>>532343754so when do we start vibecoding for nasa missions then?just fuck my shit up
>>532348072It's true though. My roommate showed me with his app. There was a bug where it didn't want to store credit card information in the database. So he basically just said "this is very important to do it this way, fix it now" and a few minutes later it did what he wanted. He didn't even have to tell how, it just did it.
>>532348327Not true enough since millions of devs and engineers still have their jobs.
>>532343920>this board is... honestly>the honest truth is>In my honest opinion*Trust me guise*You have to go back
>>532345829yes but bots are SHIT AT EVERYTHING except coding
>>532348375Oracle just laid of 30k. More coming. It's happening now bro literally in front of your eyes
JARVISINVENT TIME TRAVEL
>>532348327Also can you not foresee any complications from him not being aware how it did it?Sometimes things can be done the wrong way without causing a crash and then you won't find out until the lawsuit happens because you weren't actually handling credit card information securely and your customers' info got leaked.Compiling successfully isn't the same thing as not having bugs.
>>532346025>>532346010>No matter how good the AI is at writing code it will never solve the retarded stakeholderit's ok, that retarded stakeholder is now going to vibe code their own app and then try paying you AI rates ($1/hr) to fix it!>>532348160>Why would AI stop to become better now?diminishing returns + ouroboros problem>>532347614thankfully normies are waking up to the fact that everything new sucks, especially new software.
>>53234842630k layoffs aren't new though. IBM laid off twice as many tech workers as that in 1993.
>>532345791it's going to be like what happened to books after self-publishing: seas of garbage, and the remaining books that are written by people with actual editors will be gatekept to women + jeets.
>>532346397>developers outsourcing to retarded jeets for pennies on the dollar means AI will be bad in the futureYour retarded
>>532348488He'll be fine nobody will know what's in the database. If he gets sued it means he's big enough to afford a lawyer so what's the difference.
>EggmanSo fucking sick of weirdos like him who wrote a fucking web browser and thinks that entitles him, and his heirs, to rule over humanity as kings in perpetuity.
>>532348650OK, well larger companies are probably less likely to want to take major risks like that with vibe coded PCI compliance, which is why you don't see 4 million tech workers without jobs right now.>>532348426Also Oracle has been replacing their workers with thousands of H1B Indians at the same time so it isn't necessarily the AI motivated decision they're claiming it is.https://nypost.com/2026/04/02/us-news/outrage-over-oracles-thousands-of-h-1b-requests-amid-layoffs/
>>532343754can't wait for the world to start falling apart as more and more services will begin to depend on all that slop codeGithub now is now barely an one-nine service - working about 90.5% of the time
>>532343754>high qualityLMFAO this nigger has never seen a line of code in his life
Well, why didn't Microsoft just fix Windows11 with AI then?If it's that simple, they should just dump the codebase into their AI and have it fixed and turned into the next wonder of technology
>high quality softwareShit bundled together by AI isn't high quality software by any measure
>>532348848Humpty Dumpty actually wrote the first web browser, Mosaic, in the 90s and started Netscape. Doesn't mean he isn't a massive dunning kruger faggot - literally thinks techbros are fucking nobility and pulls the strings of retards like trump these days with all his shekels.
>>532343754>high qualityDoubt
>>532348621>retarded jeets prompting to AI will fix this
>>532346501Based
>>532348800Jak si mám vygenerovať software?
>>532348794oracle is completely dysfunctional now and the next IBM. Anyone who raises them as an example of how AI is "changing the world" is simply clueless.
>>532343754aaaand suddenly> remote code vulnerability in notepad
>>532348800saar, this is normal. 9 nines is not real saar, look at all this green we have!
>>532348160Why isn't someone making the best OS right now just using AI?Or the best browser?Surely they can do better than what's on the market.
>>532348800It dropped below 90% recently. Welcome to the shitskin aislop future.
So who, exactly, does this clown's venture capital shop front shekels to now? Any tech inept normie with an idea for some shitty new app that appeals to fellow NPCs? Holmes tier sociopaths will run wild throwing shit hoping it sticks.
>>532343754Again, those with rights and will of God to print currencies won and those without lost. Chuds lost. No amount of leetcode and hackerone bug bounty record would make you live life like Epstein's clients. Chuds lost again. Enjoy your dry dying days.
>>532348927laying out code isnt difficult for bots because code is a formal system, no syntactical nuance
>>532349555And faggots like this egghead have literally pulled the ladder up behind them. Boomerism incarnate, Andreessen was in the right place at the right time and slapped together a web browser and voila he's rich and now wants to destroy your way of life. Him and his progeny are to rule over the peons forever, with slime like Yarvin advising them how to rule. No jobs for average middle class people, no hope to replicate his success, just endless H1B jeets to take jobs until AI takes them all.
Prompting takes as much effort as doing those things (writing, drawing, composing music) directly that you may as well skip it and learn how to actually do them.And it adds a middle man that can spy on you and steal your intellectual property unless you're using an offline nonproprietary version, and those versions usually have very limited nonagentic capabilities.
ok "make a free photoshop and post it on github". i'm waiting.
>>532348800The problem will keep compounding as more retarded jeets come to replace the few white and asians holding complex systems together that are retiring while all the retarded C-suite, middle management and marketing faggots drink the AI kool-aid. The cracks are already showing on the massive degradation of service as your image shows but it runs much deeper, in the span of a generation making software will become lost knowledge like landing on the moon or traditional animation.
Huffing their own copium, intelligent people are wasting time babysitting a schizo with encyclopaedic knowledge instead of coming up with any real ideas.When you leave cost cutting to AI it fires management instead of regular workers.
>>532345829But how will it get better? This is not AI which can improve it's own code. It all depends on the training data you give but where is new data supposed to come from? By now it already got all it will get. If they start training on each other it will only get worse
>>532348488“Hey AI, document every function and line of code”
>>532350337>AI which can improve it's own codenigga...
>>532350366Retards unironically prompt this and then an absolute turd (like OpenClaw's ""documentation"") shits out of the LLM orifice.
>>532350301innovation was always more important, this undercuts those who can only replicate but not innovate
>ayo chaz lil g-pt me Akanda soft 11 for da real Afrikans
So many fucking Ranjeshs out there. Thank God I'm an expert pajeet wrangler to prevent these retards from destroying everything
>>532349353Not to defend AI, but even if they did, would you trust it?
>>532343754>High quality software is infinitely availableLOL. LMAO. ROFLCOPTER.100% another grifter because you can't be this clueless/retarded. Notice how he gives zero concrete example and stays vague, as usual per the course of snake oil salesmen.
Currently AI is only good for specific things and those things are not decision-making or design.Pick any company going heavy into AI replacement and watch it at minimum lose 50÷ value in the next 5 years.Oracle for example is already mostly scrap.
>>532351554No, but industry shills are implying anything's possible. So why aren't they writing the perfect OS from scratch using AI? They'd be throwing Windows and Android out of the market.Or heck a new browser that is much better than Chrome. It should be easy with the right prompts.There already is evidence that software made with AI and used in medical devices was involved in some mishaps, but it's pending trial.
>>532348800>>532349365>One nine serviceSorry, could you elaborate on this? I get it's like up time or some performance metric but what basis or function is it referring to? Thanks anons
>>532351910Again, I'm not a proponent of AI. I fully agree the reasons that nobody's made an AI OS or reinvented Photoshop is simply because AI is not good enough. There's possibly a "yet" missing off the end of that sentence, but even when it is capable, which one of the hundreds of AI slop laden OSs do you choose?I used to work with medical devices. Astoundingly, the bar of quality is scarily low for most medical devices in the UK as the NHS is plagued by bureaucracy and preferred supplier lists. Some of what we slapped together and labelled as good enough to ship was a joke. I can only imagine what improvements AI has made to it all.
>>532346800Absolutely. Only this week I need to do some refactoring specifically make it more conforming to MVVM pattern and more SOLID-principled. And it just does. Your average NPC coder won’t even be bothered to want to even think about that.
>>532350611None of this has been remotely clever there is no need to constantly reinvent the wheel. Disruption has been a net loss with companies pushing useless subscriptions to insert themselves between you and the actual service
Anything that fucks over techbros is ultimately a positive
>>532343754Nonsense take. People could easily create their own website and they don't. They don't 3D print their stuff. And they won't let "magic AI" create more than the usual things they already know or have. AI for the common people will have safety guards so that they don't shoot themselves in the foot and that's it.
>AI is so good, it's like having 500 gorillion engineers in the palm of my handsMeanwhile in the real world0 life changing software6 gorillion jeets writing codeinfinite ai scam apps
>>532343754>picNOT FROM WHAT IVE FUCKING SEEN!! IT HALLUCINATES THE MOST BASIC SHIT AND CONFIDENTLY LIES! OH YA I’LL JUST WHIP UP A CUSTOMISED VERSION OF MICROSOFT OFFICE. YEAH NAH IT’LL JUST END UP MAKING A FUCKING GUI THAT DOES NOTHING
>>532343827Why would we need indians if we have AI?
>>532353709Yeah and then some jeet will accidentally leak it like claw
>>532354310Another brilliant aspect of AI - we no longer do, nor call centres (which spawned their whole scam industry)
>>532343827Why would Indians be better at prompting than white people
>>532345829>it's come a long way therefore it will continue to go a long way investor brained
>>532343754>Bill GatesBill Gates programmed nothing. Bill Gates was just a rich trust fund baby who copyrighted other people's systems.
>>532344727>people will work 24/7 for a loaf of breadExcept they won’t do that, they will grow food, and trade with each other, and disregard rules and building permits, and burn firewood for warmth, and make their own spirits, and riot and flip the game over and break all the pieces and throw the toys out of the cot and bring the guillotines out of retirement, until something changes.
>>532343754Show me the innovation that is not machine learning, and models with specific things they are good at creating.
it is an amazing technology and people are losing jobs to it. but its not making anything better or cheaper so i dont know what that means
