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Why are they firing the Generals?
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Stalin purged Generals and won the war
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>>532346231
They might be Biden-era generals.
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>>532346231
The retards want them to do retarded shit and they aren't retarded enough to do it so they need to look for more retards
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>>532346231
Things are going so well they don't need them anymore
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>>532346231
leaks
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From Tasnim:

Opposition of 30 American generals to a ground attack on Iran

30 American generals have opposed the ground attack on Iran, which was ordered by "Donald Trump."

This opposition comes while so far 12 senior US military officials, including the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, have been dismissed due to their opposition to operations against Iran.
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>>532346290
They graduated Westpoint and went through all their promotions to General in just 4 years?
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One for suspending a pilot for the kid Rock photo op
Deeply unserious leadership
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>>532346231
>Be Trump
>Tell generals you are going to attack Iran
>generals tell you it is a terrible idea
>do it anyway because Israel is our greatest ally
>It goes terribly
>Blame generals
Anything to shift attention away from Epstein and Israel
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>>532346357
Tasnim in Melbourne?
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>>532346231
The iran was is a massive cluster fuck so they lashing out at anyone near them
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>>532346399
Tasnim in Iran.
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>>532346231

because they're not sufficiently shabbos
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>>532346359
Come on, no need to be antisemitic.
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>how do we win this
>we can't
>go die for the jews
>that's not a good idea

>YOU'RE FIRED

probably
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>>532346231
They were winning too much.
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>>532346231
>Generals tell hegseth/trump that iran plan is retarded
>Get told to do it anyway
>Plan fails spectacularly, as predicted
>"It must be the fault of those pussy traitor generals. Fire them immediately and get in some real patriots (read: retard yes men)"
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>>532346669
What exactly is the plan?
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>>532346669
what failed? iran is bombing arab civilians. it doesnt have any military effect, same as the battle of britain and the v-1/v-2 attacks. they cant hit shit. sorry about your cheap gas, but same shit happened with russia invading ukraine. it will pass and irgc will still be smashed.
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>>532346231
They need yes men, no one intelligent wants to do what these fat retards are going to try next
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>>532346231
>Why are they firing the Generals?
they won't do war crimes.
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>>532346231
they are tired of winning so much. now some new generals will have the opportunity to participate in the winning
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>>532346669
>>532346369
this and they probably refused his orders because he's blatantly telling them to commit war crimes
expect some crazy leaks and post-trump trials
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He 100% gave them orders that will either lead to defeat or to some incredibly high casualties.
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>>532346231
They are jealous of their freedoms.
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>>532346799
>what failed? iran is bombing
If it succeeded, Iran would not be bombing.
It is bombing American allies, it is bombing American allies infrastructure, it is bombing American bases on the territory of American allies.
It has closed the Strait of Hormuz, this is hammering gas prices and the global economy.
That is not a success. That is not what winning looks like.
You sound like Andrew Tate claiming he meant to lose.
>>532346828
They had no problem doing them in Afghanistan and Iraq.
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>>532346231
The smart generals are asking to leave to avoid the war crime trials
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>>532346231
>Why are they firing the Generals?
They are woke generals. They said no more woke military. You can't have woke military.
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>>532346359
It's called the fast-track, or nepotism, you fucking pleb wageslave antisemite monster.
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>>532347377
fired =/= asking to leave
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>>532346284
the war was won not thanks to Stalin, but despite Stalin.
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>>532347321
no, you have it backwards.

america is bombing iran, its infrastructure, its military, its leadership, its missiles, navy, planes, nuclear sites irgc, ayatollah, etc. iran isnt doing jack shit to america. iran is killing random arab civilians, which are otherwise not involved in the war, as a form of hostage taking. we are intercepting about 95% of these strikes on arab nations, which are nominal allies in the region, but not our defense responsibility (they are responsible for their own defenses).

we are bombing iran exactly because they act like this, all the time, bombing arab and jewish civilians, chanting death to america, trying to assassinate our president, etc.

what iran tries and fails to do, we do to them and succeed. this is the easiest war in US history. stopping Iranian terror attacks cannot be done by appeasement. it can only be done by bombing irgc, and its leadership, and military capabilities.

iran is responsible for its attacks, not the US. we are conducting a regional defense against them, and succeeding by an overwhelming margin (20:1 ~95%+). we are also engaging in offensive strikes tondestroy irgc ability to ever conduct such attacks again with impunity throught iran, and have destroyed 30-35% of the enemy capacity. meanwhile our losses are 13 soldiers, and 6 planes; essentially nothing, or like 0.01% of our combat forces in the area.

iran is absolutely getting curb stomped and all theyre able to do about it is blow up mostly random civilian shit belonging to other arabs. nothing significant is being achieved by irgc, and certainly nothing that could deter the US militarily.
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>>532346231
because they are winning
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>>532347889
Why would you continue to bombing weeks after winning?
Would you bomb nuclear sites a year after you destroyed them?
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>>532346291
Maybe the Generals are retarded.
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>>532346879
Yeah, probably; that is a real sane observation.
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>>532347955
>Maybe the Generals are retarded.
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>>532346290
Or Obama who stole Trump's NP
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>>532348237
Obama stole Trumps what?
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>>532346732
>We are Americans, goddammit
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>>532348281
NP
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>>532347950
there is only so much sortie generation capacity. these wars proceed in phases. the first phase destroyed regime leadership (which were still above ground in the open) and the integrated air defense network of radars and sams operated by iran. this first phase was won extremely easily, much more easily than any prediction or projection could have imagined. we typically play for several weeks of suppression of enemy air defense (SEAD) before beign able to transition to phase 2 destruction of enemy air defense (DEAD). the phases are distinguished by use of drones, stealth, and stand-off weapons in phase 1 versus conventional aircraft and stand-in munitions in phase 2. typically phase 1 correlates to establishing air superiority, whereas phase 2 involves establishing air dominance. after eatablishing air dominance, we are free to strike irgc targets (leadership, missiles, ships, launchers, ammo and fuel depots, etc) at will. and so we have been for a few weeks, and achieved 30-35% estimated destruction of irgc military capability while defeating 95%+ of the 'death blossom' our strikes have caused as 'use it or lose it' mentality sets in and leadership structures decay toward independent tactical commands.

ultimately irgc has failed to deter US military action and been significantly attrited, having demonstrated no capability to disrupt US airstrikes, except a single F-15 today (yesterday). we lost more f-15s to friendly fire and air accidents than their entire nation.

it is literally the easiest war in US history. since we cannot be deterred militarily, we can keep hitting targets essentially forever until theres nothing left to kill. irans theory of victory relies on deterring US strikes--this can be achieved with a diplomatic breakthru, ceasefire, nuclear deal, regime change, etc, but almost certainly not by irgc militarily. they simply arent an effective military-vs-military force against the US due to massive overmatch, and terror bombing like hitler.
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>>532348676
>we won but there are many more phases after that
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>>532346231
They told the two TV personalities in charge that another forever war in the middle east would be a bad idea
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>>532346231
I’m sure there are various reasons for it. Some are dissenting, some are not performing as expected, or just retiring because they see no point in participating.
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>>532346231
The generals are telling trump he is a retard for starting another forever war for the israel.
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>>532346231
Because they are the fag and drag brigade leaders.
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>>532349012
if you retire you're not fired
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>>532346231
Regime change :^)
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>>532346231
>Why are they firing the Generals?
Why does anyone do anything?
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>>532346369
>it goes terribly
Proof?
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>>532346231
getting fired now looks better than leading the inevitable catastrophe of an Iran invasion.
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>>532346231
Guide to dictatorship 101:
1. Purge all military and police department of any and all perceived enemies.
2. Activate wartime powers to suspend elections indefinitely.
3. Profit.
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>>532346369
funny how no one cared about pedophilia before

rather curious
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>>532348810
yes, there are many victories before war ends. we won the battle and will win the war. iran cant do shit but terror bomb random arab civilians. it wont work, it isnt working, and we can tit-for-tat match (overmatch) irgc until all of iran is destroyed for an entire generation if necessary.

it isnt necessary though. iran ended up at war with the US due to a failure of diplomacy. it will remain at war with the US until diplomacy succeeds. the old saying goes war is diplomacy by other means--meaning both sides diplomats and negotiators may believe in their positions entirely until bombs change things enough to make peace.

we have indeed won already. irgc would rather martyr their entire nation and themselves than lose power as a consequence of its military defeat. it is immoral to destroy a nation due to its capture by a military death cult; however, like the nazi party failed to surrender after the outcome of ww2 was decided by d-day and stalingrad, it is unsurprising to have to do a significant amount of destruction to convince the diehards to leave power (or die first).

not all nations need the same amount of destruction to eject their junta-revolutionaires. japan was nuked twice to be convinced, then became our friends. persia will be the same. we just have to bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb irgc until theres no reasons left to fight.

sorry for your gas. but it is worth it, and you can buy american.
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They refused to swear an oath of fealty to hegseth.
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>>532349292
>reee tjos os dictatorship
>you should have voted for lockdowns
>and population DISARM

kek, how easy cattle forgets
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>>532349292
Could donny try to escalate this so he can claim
>we've never before had a conflict like this, people are telling me that, and I just dont see how we can have an election amidst all this, believe it, the best minds are saying sir we cant organise an election and fight at the same time sir it's just not possible sir
>>532349343
before?
but its over
this is a f t e r
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>>532349610
war ends when diplomats agree
war is won when generals agree
we won already
iran doesnt agree because their generals are dead
iran doesnt have peace because their diplomats are dead
once iran has new generals and new diplomats their nation and the world will understand how completely this war was won within the first 2 weeks. everything that happens next is just extra destruction required to find the right people.
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>>532346231
They want Yes men. Problem is if your administration is full of Yes men then there is no one to tell you when you're about to fuck up.
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>>532349869
Sure Pete, whatever you say.
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>>532349940
i appreciate it anon, and i hope it helps
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>>532349869
do you usually keep fighting 5 weeks after winning?
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>>532350099
i always keep fighting for the sport of it. good fights are rare. when then end too easily, it is rarely satisfying, and you never kick someone when they go down or tap out. our warfighting in america is most always done with a grin and ends in handshakes.
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>>532346231
A lot were women. So justified..,
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Because the fun and game are over.
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>>532347955
They are. Just not retarded enough.
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>>532346231
>Why does a man surrounding himself with yes-men fire no-men?
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>>532346284
jiang predicted this
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>>532346231
because the extracting radioactive material plan is stupid, even if possible it takes month or more.
So they tell him it's bad plan, fired
They tell him it can't be done in weeks fired.
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>>532350763
if it takes a month to dig out we just bomb the iranians that go try to dig it out. we want you to accept the premise that the nuclear material is unreachable, and so we sell you the idea that we will launch a SMO to go get it, and you provide the service of deciding thats impossible and telling everyone about it. now we won implicitly, with or without 4 month SMO to dig up the uranium.
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>>532346231
These are the generals who disagree with the war with Iran and because of that they are not trustworthy.

Ground invasion in imminent at this point.
He needs new generals to lead it.
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>>532346446
what is tasnin
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>>532346284
Lmao
He got humiliated in the Winter War due to his retardness.
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>>532350993
>disagree with the war with Iran and because of that they are not trustworthy
why not
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>>532351120
But they won the war the winter war is such a strange thing because you lost but somehow it is a win
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If Trump when asked, doesn’t end the fight…The 30 generals should talk to and flip the attorney general, have the US marshals bring up charges, and arrest all the fuckers in a clean sweep. The dems should stay course keep funding away from all the dangerous people. Trump wants years long wars and no protections or stop gap programs for civilians. He literally wants WW3

We don’t have enough resources to keep homeland protected if its expended in iran. We blew through a lot. They hit a decisive point where they gotta stop. The public is not onboard with an escalation. Our quality of life is too low and there is no morality to the fight
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>>532350988
2 more Epsteins and israel will win
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>>532349239
>Proof?
American bases in the region are bombed.
Iran has taken control of Hormuz.
America started hitting civilian targets to put pressure on Iran, but every Iranian negotiator and his family gets killed within 24 hours, making negotiations impossible.
No end in sight.
That's why it goes terribly.
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>>532346231
They don't need doomers
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>>532351311
And this is the end of the petrodollar all for Israel and Epstein
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>>532351242
The reason it's seen as both as a win and a loss is because the Soviets underperformed massively and they were fine with territorial concessions instead of complete annexation. Finland was in no position to win the war
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>>532351382
But they took more land then the original deal you got in the beginning if finland just signed the deal you had more land and no war to begin with.
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>>532349378
True. It's pretty clear that Hegseth fears dismissal at this point. Especially after Zognald fired the GILF (Bondi) for releasing some of the Epstein files.
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Maybe the generals were not American First like President Trump? Maybe they didn’t want to flight for the safety of American People? Or then simply were not blessed because they didn’t bless Israel?
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>>532346231
Trump (or more like, trump's handlers) want to use nukes.
Some generals still have some glimpse of either brains or morals and refused
Truth is, if the US really uses nukes, then gloves are off for *everyone*, not only Iran.
>hurr we will just nuke the others too
well you better hope the US has enough nukes for everyone then. For Russia, for Iran, for China, for Pakistan. Also for every little shithole that will be given nukes too.
Imagine chinese industrial overproductive capacity turned into a war economy, directed at building nukes.
Ameriniggers better not be *that* stupid



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