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Why do shills want you to stop eating carbs? Bread is the healthiest food, kept generations alive. The retards who discard it and eat meat every day have fallen for a massive psyop and look 10 years older. Just take a look at those self Improvement protein guys, they all aged like shit and still cannot get a girlfriend.

Sugar is also shilled as bad when it gives you instant energy and makes the brain happy and working effortlessly
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opposite day ass thread
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Because fat lardarses who eat junk food all day need an excuse to continue eating unhealthily so they make up shit about carbs and dairy to make themselves feel better.
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>>532351049
I found my stool has improved upon eating, bread, buckwheat fruits and vegetables alongside eggs and meat, I think it's some sort of junk food guerilla marketing to get you to eat more processed garbage.
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Carbs are good but always in moderation and best in the morning.
Yes bread kept our ancestors alive but the modern idea of "enough food" is very different to what they would consider enough.
So fatties shouldn't stuff their face with bread, rice or pasta before an evening of sitting at the computer for example.
Natural sugars in fruit or whatever are fine but most sugar products these days are as much chemicals as they are sugar and all that chemical shit is doing harm and seems to be somewhat addictive.
We are designed to eat meat and it is good for us but obviously trying to eat only meat would be retarded and it's a retarded thing to even debate.
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>>532351049
cuz energy on it's own and you still starve
and energy without the work to burn it is fat
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All food is good food. Our only problem is eating too much of everything, and not burning enough calories because we sit on our ass all day.
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Keto diet literally lost me 20% of my total body weight tho. Too many people me included have onset of type 2 diabetes so due to the processed goyslop and soda we consume. One of the symptoms is inability to stop eating once you consume a carb heavy meal because your body cannot regulate sugar levels and keeps craving more. On keto I can literally consume less than 1000 kcal a day and not be hungry. Carbs aren't bad, the sugary processed food that destroys your body's ability to regulate itself is tho
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>>532351352
>we
I don't sit on my ass all day and I'm not a disgusting fat fuck like you
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>>532351637
I'm talking about modern society at large, dumbass.
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>>532351049
add whole wheat flour to bread dough. White flour doesn't have enough fiber.
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>>532351049
>Bread is the healthiest food, kept generations alive.
Healthiest .... it depends what you put in it. If only water , salt , yeast and seed oil. Not really.
It put milk , egg lard, for sure.

But it is true.
No bread .and billions will die from hunger.
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>>532351049
>Sugar is also shilled as bad when it gives you instant energy and makes the brain happy and working effortlessly
sugar is good.for.you.
Itis all psyop.
Just don't try to eat it to get saturated.
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>>532351415
>soda
Jog on back to America, cunt
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>>532351049
I think carbs are fine but I can't digest starch or sucrose. Poor digestion of starch isn't that uncommon and is being linked to a lot of health issues. It doesn't mean carbs are bad but we still don't understand as much as we think.
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Oh, I thought you said crabs.
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>>532351049
You'll be eaten soon
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>>532356052
there is also a silent war against crabs
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>>532351049
>Sugar is also shilled as bad when it gives you instant energy and makes the brain happy and working effortlessly
Sugar is the absolute worst.
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>>532351049
They fucked up bread in America by making it ultra shitty and cheap no one wants it except retarded narcissist feminists and commie fags
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>>532351049
It's not shilling really.
Some people don't have the appropriate enzymes for baked carbs. I say some, it's quite a lot of people. All bloodgroup O people.
Carbs are shit for their health, especially sugars. It's too sour and they don't break the sugar down fast enough to offset that.
I'm type O and never had a sugar rush.
Meat however, as long as it's not too much in one go, directly gives me energy because I have the enzymes to do that.
My stool improved and became consistent when I cut out all the wheat. I still consume +85% chocolate but the bloat is minimised, it's minned instead of maxxed.

Point being, everyone's got different dietary needs.
A baseline ratio of 4:2:0,01 fat:protein:carb works for many but tinkering with it gets you where you need to be.
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>cocaine is also shilled as bad when it gives you instant energy and makes the brain happy and working effortlessly
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>>532351049
I simply cut all carbs and have lost 75lbs since September. The side benefit is when you cut carbs, you also cut out 90 % of goyslop. Goyslop utterly revolves around carbs and sugars, and I'm so glad to have made the difference
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>>532351049
They don't actually want you to eat protein. Not REAL Protein at least. People eating actual animals don't age like that, oh no, they'll come out looking more like Mongols than anything.
Carbs are poor food for when there's nothing else.
What they want to sell you is söy proteins, bugs, and "more protein" as in söy powder in your sweets because it's now by definition good for you. All the chemicals and hormone imbalance will age you like a tard.
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I think the main thing to cut down is sugar more than anything else. Eating actual fruit is fine, of course.
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>>532351049
Carbs are great. I eat like a horse, but I also work physically and lift weights. When my activity goes down I eat fewer carbs, but find they’re the easiest way to gain weight when I want to gain weight. Just know roughly how much you’re eating and you’ll be fine. Monitor your stool and adjust accordingly as well. Maybe fast once in a while and you’re good
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>>532351049
it's american content
their flour is (((enriched))) and (((glyphosated))) and with short fermentation, their bread is fully goyslopped

can't blame them for not eating that
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Bread sustained our ancestors because it was the most reliable and plentiful source of carbs for most of western history. Same goes for rice in the east. And for much of human history, obesity was rare and limited to the richest of nobles, because everyone else had to spend 16 hours a day walking and moving around.
Once we introduced more sugars into our diet, and we adopted a more sedentary lifestyle, the need for plentiful carbohydrates decreased. If you're sitting at a computer for most of the day, there's no reason for you to have a huge intake of carbs that you would get from eating a large serving of bread. Either get up and be active all day, or cut your intake of carbs.
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>>532351637
Don't lie. I can see your brown fatass 4000 miles away.
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>>532351049
Sourdough is the White Man's bread.
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in america, bread is poison
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>>532351049
why not both? why you have to be a divisive faggot? meat and bread meat and potatoes pasta and meatballs just go outside and touch grass you argumentative gayboy
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>>532365444
tell me about it babes
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>>532351049
Let me put it simply...wheat requires enormous areas of cultivation...this contradicts the future policy of food supply for billions of herds of people...
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Goycattle should learn make Essene Bread aka Manna aka The Secret of the Jew aka sprouted bread for 10 000HZ ZOGplosion power ...
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>>532351049
Modern day people barely need carbs, that's why. You faggots sit at your home, then sit in your car to then sit at an office. Carbs are meant to be used as energy for physical activities, otherwise the body stores them as fat. Simple as.
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>>532351049
My entire life I wanted to make bread.

Can someone give me the easiest and tastiest bread recipe I can make that even a gigantic fucking moron like myself cannot possibly fuck up?
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>>532366089
New York Times has the best no knead recipe.
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>>532351049
most bread and flour products use enriched wheat is the problem
and most sugar products is actually corn syrup. both of those are infinitely worse than plain flour and cane sugar. I still use more honey than sugar though
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>>532366023
most of that energy is used by the brain and just maintaining basal metabolic rate. it's not even certain if physical labour needs were higher in the past with new information leading people to believe that peasants actually worked less hours and less strenuously than modern people, with much more of the year free to have time for themselves. you don't have to run a marathon every day to justify eating carbs, this is moronic thinking.
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>>532357334
sorry but you sound like some freakish disease man, learn to digest white people food and stop being a retarded baby
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>>532351415
>dude keto

retarded memeshit that will give you colon cancer in the long run, don't be a fucknut

>>532352953
this
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>>532351049
>bread is the healthiest food
Fun fact. Humans did not get cavities prior to the invention of bread and bread like foods. Animals dont have to brush their teeth because they dont eat bread and processed sugar. By the way, as far as your metabolism is concerned there is very little difference between carbs and sugar. The healthiest food is the least processed food. Baking bread, while fairly benign, is a form of processing. The closer you can get to “i pulled this off a tree” or “i dug this out of the ground” or “i fucking stabbed this thing in the woods” the healthier the food is(with few exceptions), because thats what we evolved to deal with over millions of years.
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>>532351199
dairy is good for you, so are carbs. the issue is the source of both.
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>makes you fat
>gives you diabetes
>takes a lot of water to metabolise causing dehydration
>bloats your face
>feeds cancer
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bread is empty calories with almost no vitamins, minerals, or protein and should be treated like dessert
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>>532351049
> Bread is the healthiest food
Modern bread is basically toxic. Its nothing like the real bread our ancestors consumed.
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>>532351049
GreekAnon, have you ever HAD American bread? It's probably not what you're talking about. Also sugar is in fucking everything, and not healthy outside of small amounts
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>>532351049
Because the food pyramid etc... was written assuming a baseline daily calorie burn that doesn't account for jewish daycare jobs and sedentary lifestyles

>t. Former white collar esg'd out of my career, outdoor manual laborer for the past 5 years. Slimmer, fitter and more energetic in my mid 30s than i ever was as a desk jockey in my 20s, also eating like a goddam roman emperor
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>>532366986
depends what flour you use. you can buy heirloom variety grains and grind your flours form that.
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Bread in its idealized form is great in theory but agriculture is so fucked up its best avoiding food from American farms. Carnivore and other low carb diets are effective because they eliminate all that
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>>532351049
because most carbs come from wheat which is glyphosate saturated. Stupid people like you think it's entirely about carbs but people tend to feel better when they aren't eating straight fucking poison.
Normal bread and rice are also nearly completely useless, sourdough is better but really only if you make it yourself and allow the ferment to complete.
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High Glycemic Index: Many types of bread, particularly white bread made with refined flour, have a high glycemic index (GI). This causes rapid spikes in blood glucose and insulin levels, which, over time, can contribute to insulin resistance and an increased risk of Type 2 diabetes.
Refined Carbohydrate Load: Refined grains are stripped of fiber and nutrients. Diets high in these carbohydrates are linked to increased abdominal fat and higher levels of triglycerides in the blood.
Digestive and Autoimmune Concerns
Gluten-Related Disorders: For individuals with Celiac disease, gluten (a protein found in wheat, barley, and rye) triggers an autoimmune response that damages the lining of the small intestine. Others may experience Non-Celiac Gluten Sensitivity, leading to bloating, gas, and fatigue.
Antinutrients (Phytic Acid): Whole grain breads contain phytic acid, which can bind to minerals like calcium, magnesium, iron, and zinc, preventing their absorption in the digestive tract.
FODMAPs: Wheat is a major source of fructans, a type of fermentable carbohydrate that can cause significant distress (bloating, pain, diarrhea) in people with Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS).
Nutritional and Additive Issues
Nutrient Displacement: Bread is often "calorie-dense" but "nutrient-poor" compared to whole foods like vegetables or lean proteins. Relying heavily on bread can displace more nutrient-rich foods from the diet.
High Sodium Content: Processed bread is a significant source of hidden salt in the modern diet. High sodium intake is a primary driver of hypertension (high blood pressure) and cardiovascular disease.
Industrial Additives: Mass-produced breads often contain emulsifiers, preservatives, and dough conditioners (such as azodicarbonamide). Some studies suggest these additives may negatively alter the gut microbiome and promote low-grade inflammation.
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>>532351049
Because obese people are a huge burden to society which is legitimately bad and carbs are the prime cause of over eating. If you had a guy who weight 250 kilos actually bake a sourdough bread he probably wouldn't be obese but he eats 2 kilos of instant spaghetti and 2 loafs of ultra processed bread instead.
The other face of the coin is that the food industry wants to push animal products, protein specifically way above what you actually need for the simple fact that these are high margin items. If it means shitting on vegetables and bread (primarily carbs) then so be it, it doesn't again hurt that carbs from processed foods and candies and the like are literally killing millions of americans today so most of their talking points aren't actually lies.
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>>532366986
all your "food" is like that, lol
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>>532351758
Then why didn’t you type that, you dumbass
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>>532351049
>Why do shills want you to stop eating carbs? Bread is the healthiest food, kept generations alive. The retards who discard it and eat meat every day have fallen for a massive psyop and look 10 years older. Just take a look at those self Improvement protein guys, they all aged like shit and still cannot get a girlfriend.
>Sugar is also shilled as bad when it gives you instant energy and makes the brain happy and working effortlessly
>t. Stavros Papadopoulos
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>>532351049
Eat your goyslop, nigger.
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>>532358043
She looks too bitchy to have sex with

I still want to but she looks really bitchy and pissed off
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i dont even know how people can get obese
there was a point for like a year i ate only poptarts and drank chocolate milk
i only weighed 170 lbs
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>>532367663
Bro that is just cottage pie, but they didn't mash the potatoes and bake them on top of the filling. It's absolutely delicious. No cap, you should try making it some time.
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Dietary carbohydrates are 100% unnecessary and always harmful.
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>>532351049
>Reverse psychology shilling.
>Why do the elites want us to avoid micro plastics?
>wow micro plastics must be good if elites don’t want us to eat

Nice try
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>>532367812
>you should try making it
no thanks
I eat actual food
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>>532351049
carbs give you energy, they want you weak and tired
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there is nothing healthier in life then a complex carb wheat bread baked at home
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>>532351049
You need to eat it with fat to reduce the insulin spike and glucose uptake but yet I agree
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>>532358043

I'm also doing the keto + in no seed oils diet and lost 30lbs since September. People have told me even my skin looks better.

Carbs aren't inherently bad but most people overeat them. Especially sugar and refined starch.
I think seed oils are the bigger problem though they fuck your metabolism and digestive system. I struggled with IBS like symptoms for years - tried cutting out dairy and gluten to no effect. But within a week of cutting out seed oils 90% of my digestive problems went away.
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>>532367816
Dyel
>>532351049
All mass produced wheat/food is garbage.
The meat AND the Bread. Theyre both dogshit
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>>532367812
Anon Sheppard's/cottage pie is dogshit. The modern British are actually horrible cooks because they took pride in eating dogshit during the war to prove they were sacrificing for their country and never fixed it. Even their fancy shit like beef Wellington is fucking dogshit... It's the worst way to "enjoy" a good cut of beef. Just make gravy and have a piece of good bread you overcomplicated faggots.
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>>532368116
Sure thing buddy.
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>>532351049
how about this,
we're all different, therefore:
>eat what makes YOU healthy
>eat what makes YOU happy

think about it...
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>>532368116
3
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>>532368241
This
It's why they love indian food so much they imported india
It's the ultimate overcomplicated slop
>look saar I put every spice in same dish saar 13.95 please saar what are you doing do not scan for faeces please
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>>532368259
You're telling me that he got that body from eating bread alone?
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>>532367663
We have some of the best food in the world. I love boiled potatoes. I have them several times a week. Boiled beef and some kind of stock/gravy is great too.
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>>532368430
that guy is six months away from a heart attack
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>>532368259
>all that shit to be a 71kg victim wheight dyel
Try again when youre at least 90 kg
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>>532368542
>nitpicking
>denying the obvious impressive results
I accept your concession. You may now kneel and apologize.
>>532368414
Retard.
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>>532368430
looks horrible

>>532368504
im a bong and agree. they just dont understand
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>>532368644
I dont know whats impressive about being 150lbs at 6+ foot but i guess if it makes you feel better, fuckboy
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>>532358043
Same, I eat almost no carbs and I am losing like 1 lbs every 2 days. Just protein and some nuts and a few veggies.
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250g proteins, <100g fats, 200-400g carbs depending on cut/bulk, simple as
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>>532368644
You're are the retard
Nigger
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>>532368259
like anyone wants to listen to what a roid tranny says.
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>>532351049
American bread and wheat is actually poisonous, so they're not wrong about that.
But yeah actually there's nothing wrong with carbs or wheat.
the problem is that americans are so fat and lazy and stupid and will still eat food that was engineered to be actually addictive and dangerous.
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>>532351049
Processed carbs are bad for you. Fruit and blood is better. But people don't have access to blood so they eat bread, rice and potatoes.
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>>532368814
>What's so impressive about a ripped physique with six pack abs on a sedentary guy?
So we're living in denial now, huh. Don't expect anyone with a brain to entertain your autism.

>>532368934
>>532368936
Carbtard meltdown. Go eat some donuts you fat pigs.
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>>532351049
White bread is the ultimate goyslop.
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>>532369102
roid trannys are still trannys buddy.
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>>532367797
>i dont even know how people can get obese
>there was a point for like a year i ate only poptarts and drank chocolate milk

Go to bed 22 year old zoomie try that shit at 45

Also

>170lbs
>not fat

Bro Asmongold is 6'3" and he is like 140lbs, granted he is Mr. Skeletal but you are not thin.
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>>532368411
Kek true. But British slop is worse because it takes twice as long to make bland dogshit. They really can't figure out their is a middle ground between plain fish in dough with vinegar... And billion spice curry slop poured over the same thing. They are the Japanese of bland food though. They have turned that shit into an absolute art. It just sucks fucking dick
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>>532369102
All you can do is insults people with questions instead of actually telling them anything informative.
You are a low IQ orc incapable of any intelligence. Leave this website. I won't tell you again
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>>532351309
It's almost as though fiber is an essential part of gut health.
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>>532369102
now post your own body that your meme fad diet created instead of pictures of others that you saved on your computer
for reference pic related is me and I've been eating 400g+ carbs/day for the past 6 months on a bulk
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>>532369215
> insults people with questions instead of actually telling them anything informative.
I'm not big into throwing pearls to the swine.
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>>532369323
That's not what your mom told me last night
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>>532369138
Wahhh I need sugar in my bread to make it good... Kill yourself
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>>532369305
There are thousands of keto success stories with before & after pictures all over the internet.
Your personal experience is nothing compared to that. Not gonna dox myself for an attention hungry faggot.
>fad diet
Keto is literally the opposite of a fad. It's been around for +100 years and it's literally THE most well-studied diet in the world.
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>>532369102
>>532369270
What you eat has almost 0 relations on how you look so long as you fill the basic nutritional requirements. This is the primary reason why "diets" don't work. Because people believe that just by swapping spaghetti to meat or meats to olive oil they can lose weight or gain muscle when what actually counts is how much you eat.
You can be ripped with low body fat % by eating mostly carbs, by eating mostly proteins or by eating mostly fats. Hell you can eat exclusively baby gorillas and you will still become obese if you eat too many a day. So long as you stay at the right calorie intake for your desired body it's just all going to work out in the end. If a given diet works for you then that's good but it's just your own personal anecdote and is not indicative that that particular diet is any more effective than any other or that the diet has some magical properties.
You guys post exactly like snake oil salesmen, not sure if you do it for free though.
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>>532368514
I know a guy who keto'd his cholesterol to 700+. Germanistani doctors said that it is genetic, that he doesn't need to change his keto diet because it's harmless, and that he must take statins until his liver explodes, which it did. He had to stop statins, and when cholesterol skyrocketed again, he was forced to take up normal eating habits. Ever since he has 180 cholesterol, been several years.
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>>532351049
Carbs won't give you big muscles but they will give you cancer.
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>>532369596
they did not lose weight because of keto, they lost weight because they were in caloric deficit
calories in, calories out is the only thing that matters as far as weight gain/loss goes, so there's nothing inherently evil about carbs (although obviously micros also matter as far as general health goes)

>>532369699
i don't disagree with you, i eat a lot of fats too, it's just that blanket statements like "carb are bad" are retarded
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>>532351049
>makes you fat
>fucks up your liver
>screws with your insulin resistance
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>>532369699
>What you eat has almost 0 relations on how you look so long as you fill the basic nutritional requirements.
No. This is what people with a very superficial understanding of nutrition believe.
Humans have a biologically-mandated natural diet and the more we deviate from it the more we degenerate and get sick.
>>532369817
>they did not lose weight because of keto, they lost weight because they were in caloric deficit
I'm sorry, you're too stupid for me to have a conversation with.
You are profoundly ignorant when it comes of the dozens of hormonal factors that influence body weight and body fat percentage (which you treat both as if they were the same).
Stay with your normie fad diet high in carbs if you can make it work, but with keto/carnivore you'd get multiple times the results in a fraction of the time and effort.
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>>532369817
Holy shit you are fucking stupid... Keto makes it easier to reduce your coric I take because you are burning ketones I stead of converting things to glucose. Yes it was keto
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>>532370159
Caloric intake*
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>>532351049
That doesn't look like any bread I have ever seen
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>>532351049
same with rye and meth
psyops everywhere
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>>532370092
>>532370159
all I'm hearing is that you guys are both fat sedentary retards that need to start hitting the treadmill and eating less
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>>532370235
>>532370235
Meth is suspiciously low in price, where as a loaf of Rye will run you $10
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>>532370228
because you only know mould-based chemical waste slop bread
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>>532370260
Great he's deaf as well
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>>532369210
imagine complaining about fish and chips. hory shet. next you'll be mashing mushy peas.
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>>532370299
Our bread is weird. It all looks the same. I'll admit it. But it's industrial. It's convenient. It's shelf stable.
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>>532369305
Anyone can be fit at 20. It’s literally tutorial mode.
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>>532370395
>it's shelf stable
because it's full of chemicals that prevent it from ever going stale, if you can store it for a month without it going bad then it's poison

>>532370427
i'm 33 you fat nigger
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>>532369500
>sugar in my bread
I don't know what the hell you do to your ryebread in leafland but we don't do that here.
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>>532370427
Yeah he will be fat at slow 4. Th decline starts at 29... accelerates at 35.

At 40 it's over

The good days really end at 25
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>>532351049
stop eating goyslop, that's literally all you have to do. I bake my bread myself
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>>532370352
Kek mmm ya with faggots... So goo
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>>532370395
it also gives you cancer. The bread in OP looks delicious and natural, that kind doesn't even need a metal form, it's just a nice dense blob of wheat dough
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>>532368295
plants are full of hormone disruptors. wreaks havoc on your thyroid and endocrine. literal poison.
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>>532370478
Yes sure do faggot. Find me a rugbrod recipe without sugar or molasses. Don't even know your own heritage. Pathetic
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>>532370474
>i'm 33
and you waste your life on a mongolian basket weaving forum?
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>>532370707
so are you, brother, so are you
(i'm technically working rn tho, whf)
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>>532369817
> they did not lose weight because of keto, they lost weight because they were in caloric deficit
calories in, calories out is the only thing that matters as far as weight gain/loss goes

Keto gives you the highest density nutrients per calorie which makes it easier to be on a deficit while still getting all the protein you need and feeling full. Carbs are mostly empty calories
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>>532370474
You got 2 years before hard mode hits. 10 until nightmare. Get gud now.
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>>532370799
if your intent is weight loss, why would you want to eat more of a macro nutrient that has 9 calories per gram instead of one that has 4 calories per gram?
either way, every athlete/bodybuilder eats high protein, high carb, low fat
every retard that's fat and out of shape shills for keto
all you need to know

>>532370906
two more weeks bro
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>>532370955
>I’ll never age
And I’ll never take advice from retards.
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>>532370796
are you self employed? Or what kind of wfh jobs are there on a saturday
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>>532370799
No what's more important is your body doesn't need to figure out how to switch from fat to glucose constantly if you are in ketosis since your body is already burning ketones. A higher number of calories out is easier to achieve burning ketones. It's a more efficient engine
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>>532366224
>nyt
Aids
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>>532370955
Yes keto is a fat burning diet... Are you actually retarded?
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>>532371008
you said it's easy when you're 20, I proved it's still easy at 30, now you just keep moving the original claim, no need to argue retard

>>532371012
programming, i just need to finish things on time, that's it

>>532371161
caloric deficit is burning fat, regardless of your diet
if you want to lose weight all you have to do is eat less, move more
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>>532371012
shabbos goy
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>>532370561
>he cant even into mushy peas
sad
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>>532351049
It's whatever "processed" carbs are that's the problem. It has all the nutrients and fiber stripped out, bad for the gut flora
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>>532365365
bullshit!

No sane person like sour.

Pure yeast white bread is the white's man bread.
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>>532371211
Yes but you need to transition from burning glucose to ketones which is inefficient... This isn't that complicated
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>>532371252
Im sorry anon the British parts of my family are by far the worst cooks because the stuff they like is dogshit. The only good thing the British ever came up with worth bragging about is Yorkshire pudding
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>>532351049
"Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of Herod" (Mark 8:15)

Demons thrive on carbs. Think of how much evil comes from grain: beer, gluttony, city folk.
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>>532369138
nigger eat black dark bread.
Disgusting.
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>>532369500
it is only.a little.bit of sugar, noob.Like a spoon on a 300 gr of flour. It is for the yeast.
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I was keto for a decade+ for other health issues, it's very good for weight loss actually but bad for muscle gain, so it depends on your goals carbs are good for muscle.
carnivore can give you that tyler durden physique, but not huge muscles
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>>532371451
im so sorry you've been raised in such benighted ignorance about the best part of your ancestral heritage.
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Bread is not a "healthy food", it's survival food. I love to bake my own, but I'm not going to lie about how most breads have little in the way of micronutrients. It's just carbs and a little bit of protein.
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>>532371582
Kek of course it's a long fermentation sourdough... Interesting the faggot bragging about the bread didn't know that right?
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You retards doing keto just need to eat less and move more. Just count calories, balance your plate with less bullshit and more vegetables. Snack less. Keto is a more retarded way of achieving the same thing and you will get colorectal problems.
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>>532351049
Modern wheat is trash. Less that 100 years it's been around, and massive damage to people. Old strains of wheat have crazy good micros and digests well
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>>532371666
Name the best British dish... Regardless of prep time, ingredient availability, or price...
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>>532358043
>Tatted

Nigger tier
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>>532370702
Sure some might add syrup/molasses for colour but it's not needed at all. Just leave it out and it will be the same lol.
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>>532371806
its all wonderful, from brekkie through supper. the selection is wide and deep and never fails to warm an Englishmans heart while strengthening his body and soul for the challenges ahead.

you might as well ask me to choose a favorite from amongst my many children.
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>>532371806
Unironically fish and chips. Beef wellington if you're fancy
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>>532371211
Just trying to help but keep be delusional. Why are slavs such niggerbrained ungrateful savages?
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>>532372182
I actually agree... At least I proved this fag was trolling >>532372136. Thanks for a legitimate answer anon
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>>532372182
That said... Would you trade either for a steak, or a seafood boil? Fuck I'd rather have fried chicken or gator. Point is top tier British food is dogshit in the rest of the world
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You can never convince me that bread looks appetizing, it doesn't even look like real food because it isn't. The ingredients are inedible in nature. You would not survive in the wild by eating wheat and yeast.
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>>532372529
Name a wild grain or seed that made you sick you dumb nigger... Wahh But it's cooked. So is everything you eat faggot
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>>532372274
i was not trolling, you heathen curr.
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>>532372182
This, the right answer. Wellington is complicated af to make but worth a once yearly endeavor for occasion.
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>>532351049
Everyone I have ever met that says carbs are bad has looked like absolute shit. Usually some obese fuck claiming "I lost x amount of lbs since I quit carbs" but they still look like shit. The people that look good mostly eat carbs
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>>532372685
That's not good because then you are actually stupid... I don't respond to retards. Bye
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>>532370159
>Doesn't occur to the leaf that you can eat 6k calories of meat in a day and gain weight
The bar couldn't possibly be set lower and yet they miss it. These things are subhuman.
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>>532372465
Wellington is a chateaubriand, which is steak.
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>>532370707
>33
There are people here who are in their 70s.
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>>532372783
Kek would have been a good point if I hadn't stated the goal was to reduce caloric intake... Fucking dumb nigger
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>>532372764
you just dont know what you're talking about. yo uwere never born and raised in the UK like me. i know whats good me.
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>>532370955
The fat you eat is the fat you wear but you still can't go hard on starches in order to stay satiated.
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>>532351049
Most carbs are shelf stable so they can't make as much money out of them. That's it.
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>>532351352
No that's bullshit. Carbs are calories without the same percentage of nutrients as animal-based products. Peasant food. This is what causes hunger spikes. Your body is telling you not to rely on carb heavy food for sustenance.
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>ctrl f pesticides
>zero results
It's because wheat products are sprayed with poison to help them grow and dry out upon harvest and these are present upon the final product and give health issues.
Both sides are right in their arguments when the question shifts to "which wheat products" instead of "any wheat products"
Glyphosate
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>>532373527
>It's not the intestinal parasites demanding more life-affirming sugars
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>>532351049
>goes to show meat is bad
j peterson is a fucking junkie. that's why he looks old, and is retarded.
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>>532358043
This is why I can't take ketofags seriously. Why should anyone listen to the nutritional advice of someone who's so retarded that he'd let himself become at least 35kg overweight in the first place?
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>>532351049
We eat bread because you could farm and produce it efficiently. A lot of life survives as long as it can get to the state of breeding. Just because it was cheap to mass produce doesn't mean it's the best for a healthy human body.
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>>532351049
The issue with bread is the modern wheat itself. Modern wheat is shit because it has been bred so that the gluten inside is super strong in order to make the bread be airy and fluffy but still hold shape. Then it’s made into flour which is then bleached, it becomed even shittier. Then its made into bread with shit yeast and sometimes some conservatives. So it becomes super shit with absolutely undigest-able gluten and no nutritional value other than carbs. You end up with a a bit of energy and absolutely ruined guts that will make you fart all day long and have headaches.
It cant even be called bread really. It’s wheat based processed meal.
It’s very difficult to find ancient wheat species with which you can make real flour and then real bread.>>532351338
Fruits nowadays are very bad. On the same level as sugary snacks like sweets or gummies. They have no nutritional value except citrus for vitamin c. They are super packed with fructose which is the worst sugar (the one they used to make high fructose corn syrop you find in soda).
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>>532373108
Tell that to the steak and butter gal.
She eats pounds of meat and a whole stick of butter daily.

She claims to have stopped farting completely.
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>>532373930
There's some controversy around this little mong. Didn't the bf get so sick he almost died off it and then others started chanting death to her grift? I seem to recall.
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>>532351049
Carbs are required for proper brain function so it makes sense that they wouldn't want you eating them. It's also why all the no carb people seem so fucking retarded
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And they say she's been caught eating pasta on cam and has high LDL which she plays off.

I had extreme electrolyte issues when I tried carnivore. Couldn't get enough salt without coating it.
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>>532366089
I've been making bread recently.

2 cups whole wheat flour
1 cup yogurt (or ¾ cup milk + 1–2 tsp lemon juice or vinegar)
1 egg
2 tbsp melted butter
1–3 tbsp honey or sugar (optional)
1 tsp baking powder
½ tsp baking soda
¾ tsp salt

It's a little more involved than just flour and water, but it pairs nicely with mozzarella cheese as a light meal.
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>>532351049
Practically all modern bread in shithole USA has some kind of enrichment, GMO flour, or some other nonsense added with too much sugars, and this isn't just wonderbread - it's MOST of the bread available, including fresh bread in your supermarket because they are using enriched GMO flour.

Modern bread and flour (much more starch, carbs, fuck all nutrients and protein) causes massive insulin spikes and a glycemic overload compared to heritage flours which are richer in protein (including non-gluten protein) and nutrients and lower in starch.

Make your own fucking bread and don't use garbage flour

>>532371806
The Brits EXCEL at savoury foods, pastrie, and desserts/sweets.
Sausage rolls and Beef wellington for savory, they also invented sandwiches

They have a myriad of sweets, rolls, muffins, etc they excel at sweets. Also some of the best flavored and highest quality potato chips I've ever tasted.
But the Irish breakfast beats the British breakfast/fry every day of the week
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>three clean ingredients
>easy to make
>last a while
sourdough chads, we won
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>>532374057
Probably, but confirming that seems to imply a reddit voyage which im unwilling to do. Just saying she does look good and supposedly posts her own LDL and cholesterol which are exceedingly normal.

And of course the once a week poop and zero farts is pretty much peak female performance, if true.
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clarify the points we've discussed:
"Prison Gay" is about Absence, not Carbs: Situational sexual behavior in prisons happens because the opposite sex is physically unavailable, not because of the prison diet or parasites. It is a social and physical response to a specific environment.
Carbs and Energy: Carbs provide glucose for the brain and body. While high sugar intake can lead to spikes in dopamine (which affects impulsivity), there is no evidence that this dopamine spike directs a person toward a specific gender. An impulsive person will simply act more quickly on the attractions they already have.
The Parasite Factor: While we discussed how parasites like Toxoplasma can influence risk-taking or "sexual aggression," these are broad personality shifts. They don't have a "GPS" that points a person toward same-sex partners.
Biological Orientation: Real sexual orientation—who you are fundamentally attracted to—is established by prenatal hormones and genetics long before you ever eat a carbohydrate or encounter a parasite.
In short: A person's diet might affect their energy levels or their mood, but it doesn't dictate their sexual "template." People who engage in same-sex behavior are doing so because of their internal orientation or specific situational pressures, not because of what they ate for lunch.
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>>532374470
I use Francine (euro) or King Arthur. Any other flour suggestions?
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>>532374638
Sam Altman eating a lot of those San Francisco sourdough baguettes if you know what I mean
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>>532351637
Struck a nerve, huh?
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>>532351049
there's a huge amount of shilling by liars on youtube etc
carnitard brainwashing did a lot of societal damage that will have to be healed in the coming years
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>>532374820
( X )
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>>532351049
>Bread is the healthiest food
depends on bread
american have onions bread basically
likely own baked with fibers is best
sugar is ok if not overdosed, it does not normally happen in nature in crystal, does it?
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>>532374492
LDL and Cholesterol are more effected by blood sugar and other foods

Animal fats don't equal body fat

>>532374057
>Didn't the bf get so sick he almost died off it and then others started chanting death to her grift?
He didnt almost die, going on a diet of just meat when you're a processed carb & sugar addled goyslop enjoyer is going to be PAINFUL - causing severe electrolyte imbalance, cramps, sicknesss ("Keto Flu"), and the BF probably has lactose intolerance (Dairy) of varying severity, esp. if he's hispanic/asian like she looks.

Your body has to adapt and it reacts violently to you taking away processed garbage and easy energy carbs
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>>532351049
>kept generations alive
generations of useless peasants lmao. history remembers the kings who ate meat, vegetables and fruit. nutrient density is genetic superiority.
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a healthy diet has carbs, protein and fats in a balance, you can look up your country's AMDR's (acceptable macronutrient distribution range), these are based on mountains of research. in australia it's:

Carbohydrates: 45–65% of daily energy intake.
Fat: 20–35% of daily energy intake.
Protein: 15–25% of daily energy intake.

carbs are THE energy basedrce for your body and brain. while you technically can convert proteins and fats to carbs through gluconeogenesis, there's just no need when we have such an abundance of choice in foods, not to mention the price of protein vs carbs. you might also find it harder to get enough fibre
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>>532375650
>basedrce
source* kek
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>>532374782
Einkorn is probably the best heritage flour - lower starch, more non-gluten protein. King Arthur supplies it as well.
Their modern flours are better than the alternatives but they still use modern cultivars

You need to cut out processed modern bread in all forms - including buns (hotdogs, sweets), if you have to buy a store bought or pre-prepared bread or buns it should be a Keto bread - but for the love of god check the ingredients.
The hardest shit IMO is pastries, specifically pastry sheets.
Making pastry sheets is a fucking nightmare compared to buying pre-rolled shit
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>>532375416
>history remembers kings
>genetic superiority
Pic related is this retard's hero.
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>>532351049
Bread was good when natural, now is just goyslop God knows what they put in it. Refined sugar was not existent back when True Christians were slaying jews (barely, them parasites where in low numbers)) and muzzies (a lot) alike, honey was the main sweet. Real honey, not 80% synth glucose.
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>>532375650
Why don't you slide on down from your food pyramid (defunct since 2011) and fuck your own face?

If a carb is not readily available in nature, as a whole food, specifically the environment of your lineage, don't fucking eat it
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>>532351135
same night mouth textile
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>>532375343
>affected
FTFY. Effect is a noun, niggerbrain. Everything else checks out tho.
How to lower LDL?
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>>532357334
I'm O and feel better when eating carbs
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>>532375877
>Their modern flours are better than the alternatives but they still use modern cultivars
*They use modern cultivars for their normal all purpose flour (its still the best all puropse flour on the US market), wheat and bread flour,
their rye and einkorn aren't effected and are great
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>>532375981
bread is just bread dude you can go and see what's in it, there's literally millions of individual businesses in the world producing bread from scratch every day. it's not a complicated food. the australian gov does mandate folic acid added to bread to help ignorant pregnant women get enough so their babies don't come out deformed, but other than that it's just bread



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