Iran deploys new air-defense system to counter US jets, says military commandWhere the fuck did they get this from??? Omg
>>532361059Russia or China presumably
This is the going to be the most glorious mutt slaughter of all time. The webms of these retards getting their legs blown off should be played with the theme of America's funniest home videos in the background.
>>532361059They can and probably have been getting both Russian and chinese manpads via road/railThey unlike most of the GCC have a land connection that nobody really pays attention too
>>532361059what are the chances that israel is supplying Iran with American tech?
>>53236145612th thread where i see the same sentence being posted by this bot, to the coma.
>>532361456>It’s not going to be like Iraq or Afghanistan>the people hate the government.Bro, even if there are people who dislike the current government in Iran, the majority of the Iranians dislike/hate Israel (USA). It would be the exact same shit as in Afghanistan.
>>532361059Why would they hold back on air defense systems? The only explanation for why this could be true is increased support from Russia and/or China.
>>532361725It's a botpost dude, the exact same words and punctuation placements, the same sentence, spam post in a dozen different threads
>>532361568Iran has S-300s, the Bavar-373 which is supposed to be an upgrade of that, Chinese HQ-2s, domestic versions, possibly more recent systems etc. They don't just have manpads.
>>532361804Its a copypasta meme dumbass
>>532361456>the people hate the governmentall the Iranians who hate the government tend to be jews
>>532361799and another bot
>>532361718Very desperate propaganda campaigns happening right now all over the web.
>>532361059>delivered by AliExpress
>>532361059Is Russia helping them
>>532361456Nigga by this time around Iraq was already balls deep in shit, most of America's tour in Iraq were goyim sitting next to oil fields and ravaging gold deposits. It's already not a cake walk
>>532361829It's a bot invariably posted by the same flag
>>532361883True if based
>>532361059>Where the fuck did they get this from??? OmgTrump said that many countries have their own generic tomahawk missiles.
>>532361829Brown people really are as stupid as y9u think
>>532361829also, never answers (You)'s
>>532361839That’s not true. There’s also Indians being paid by jews
>>532361945But theirs actually work
>>532361456This is my favorite bot. It's a real Migger.
>>532361949You're the gullible retard Cletus
>>532361845> bothttps://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/text/cakewalk/It's some kind of gay copypasta but it's mostly the same jeet spamming it from Canada
>>532361456Faggot
>>532361517so why wasn't china deploying these amazing things to the ukrainian front where russia has been slowly losing for 3 years.
>>532361568>russian>russian>russianWhy do I keep seeing this? In what way is russia even in the conversation anymore with 800,000 dead men in ukraine.
>>532361718Former Trump voter here. This is hilarious watching Trump crash and burn. But in all seriousness we can't let this guy get the nuclear codes.
>>532362004The American missile work I'm sure. As long as you get the superPlus monthly subscription package + tip
>>532362037Muslims have the highest rate of inbreeding in the world.It's like when jeets post "jeet means victory". You're a subhuman semite cryptokike pretending to be something different.
>>532362054>It's some kind of gay copypasta but it's mostly the same jeet spamming it from CanadaThere's been bots here for years on end, i don't know why it sounds so ludicrous to you. It's the same IP and the poster never deviates from this pattern nor does he answer (You)'s
Its not new its a heat seeking missile, 70 year old technology.
>>532361821they can also get the components for these systems to fix or upgrade via rail
>>532361059It was global news that China was lending their new air defenses to Iran.
>>532361059pic of the newest AD system
>>532361059Based goat fuckers
>>532362108Its absolutely in Russia benefit to make the Iran war as bad as possibleTrump is already threatening to remove Ukraine military support
>>532361568This. Iran could basically never run out of equipment or ammunition or intel data or loans to continue fighting, as the Chinese economy is simply inexhaustible at this point. Combine this with millions of religious fanatics who practiced for decades for this war and the most defensible terrain possible. ran is the LAST country on Earth anyone should be invading. It would need a mass army of literally millions of men to break through, Vietnam or Korea style.Also, note how Russian and especially Chinese aid tipped the balance even then, when China was an african poverty tier maoist shithole and the US was at its height of cultural, economic, diplomatic, military, etc. might.>>532361821>>532361778I'm pretty sure they have a lot more, and just want to goad a land invasion before using everything. Just try to imagine the US army operate without air superiority. It would be such a shitshow.
>>532361456This kids is what a deluded faggot looks like
>>532362132Apparently they are currently using EDU tier subscription for schools and universities.
>>532361059temu
>>532362336>Just try to imagine the US army operate without air superiority. It would be such a shitshow.I was thinking this last nightA-10 in close ground support would be sitting ducks
>>532362122>Former Trump voter here. This is hilarious watching Trump crash and burn. But in all seriousness we can't let this guy get the nuclear codes.He already has them and there's nothing anyone can do about it. Idiots think there'll be some change in the midterms, there won't.Invading Iran was always a bipartisan issue thanks to AIPAC. It just so happens that so far, no one wanted to bear the responsibility of it.Now that he has, no one will discontinue it, and Massie and Rokhana and Marjorie can shout out loud all they want, they won't change shit.If anything, he solidified his rule because no one wants to take the lead from this fucked position. Also, they present the theatrics of an opposition to the 44% defence bill increase, but it'll also eventually be accepted.Needless to enter a disagreement about this if you think i'm wrong, you will get to see it happen before your eyes sooner than later
>>532362336>millions of religious fanatics who practiced for decadesjews and persians have been fighting for like 3000 years to the great dismay of everybody around them
>>532362336>This. Iran could basically never run out of equipment or ammunition or intel data or loans to continue fighting, as the Chinese economy is simply inexhaustible at this point.Iranians aren't getting the kind of equipment and ammo shipments you imagine from China. They only get intel and small smuggled weaponry like manpads. There is no established corridor for weapons through Afghanistan or Pakistan and if there was any it'd be bombed.They get intel to know where to hit, technical advise on how to operation and electronics and manpads that can easily be smuggled.
>>532362528>>millions of religious fanatics who practiced for decades>jews and persians have been fighting for like 3000 years to the great dismay of everybody around themLooks like the Persians are still winning
>>532362528No they haven't, jews have been irrelevant for almost all of that time. Persians just conquered them and punished them when they rebelled and that was that for them.Jews hold a grudge, but to Persians they have been an irrelevant minority for 99% of history. Now they are relevant again but only because they are willing to do the most vile acts to gain power over others and they have no remorse doing so.
>>532362336>Just try to imagine the US army operate without air superiority.What?>Just try to imagine if the US hadn't invested trillions of dollars into its war machine. It would be worse at war huh?Yeah no shit retard thats why they made the jets in the first place. >>532362642Guess so.
>>532362528>jews and persians have been fighting for like 3000 years to the great dismay of everybody around themMutt's education
>>532361456Then they get missled and the rest retreat
>>532362080China is selling stuff to both side in Ukraine. They're merchants at the core.
>>532361059Is this their Bavar system? It's pretty based.
>>532362619There are 3 rail crossings into IranOne direct from Russia through Azerbaijan2 via Turkmenistan for China3 road crossings for Russia and 4 for ChinaThere is very little information on traffic volumes because its controlled by Iran but its safe to assume its going to be a lot
>>532361059>Where the fuck did they get this from??? Omg
>>532362483The anon is just referencing a 2016 election concern troll copypasta
>>532362910It's not the Bavar. It's the Khordad/Majid IR to Near-IR anti-air system with passive thermal seeking missiles.The retards saying it's a chinese hardware base their analysis on pure speculation. That being said, it wouldn't surprise me if it got a software update for the thermal seeking missiles to be less vulnerable to flares and other counter measures
>>532362751Are you trying to insinuate that jews haven't been constantly making war and trouble in the middle east for 3000 years or something? >>532362688First conflict according to jews in the bible is when their king abraham fought chedorlaomer who is considered a precursor to the persians
>>532361456I cant tell which side would want to spam this
>>532362483hate to be the killjoy retard but you are responding to a super old pre-2016 election copy pasta. MAGAPEDES would spam it and psyche themselves pretending to be under attack from bots.
>>532361059
>>532362968>There is very little information on traffic volumes because its controlled by IranPlease, leave the 20th century behind and join the rest of us, we live in 2026. The US monitors in real time anything that passes there through satellite live feeds.Also, there will be no weapons shipments from Azerbaijan nor Turkmenistan. Neither of these countries will involve itself in the smuggling of weapons to Iran.There's one strong candidate and it's Afghanistan, and the suspicion does not lie on what travels in open air but on the possible presence of underground tunnel networks between both countries and out-of-sight deliveries from China.Pak & Azerbaijan are hornet nests for US Intel and cooperate fully with the US.
>>532362968Just for context, one standard 40ft shipping container could hold up to 1000 complete Verba manpadsor 2000 munitions1 rail delivery could have 10-20 containers
>>532363165Oh, ok. Thank you, wasn't aware of that.
>>532363385Manpads are effective against helis, i doubt they'd be effective against US jets. So far, all targeted and/or hit US jets were by Khordad & Majid systems.
>>532363335what the fuck are you talking aboutthis has been happening for yearsyou think they inspect every containerIran literally bombed Azerbaijan and they are still allowing shipments of "Aid" through after Russia thanked themLets deal in reality, the officials in control will be milking this to the max by turning a blind eye and making bankIts how life works
>>532363536This is just an exampleIt could be anythingFrom propellant to spare partsThese routes are open and nobody has a fucking clue whats being sent through them except the senders and receivers, neither country I have mentioned will give a fuck because, again, they are getting bank
>>532362619The shootdowns seem like theyre done by SHORAD and manpads. These can be hard to use, engagement windows are small and planes move fast. They've been getting better, we had a smattering of aircraft surviving hits over the last few weeks, I think they've gotten better at positioning themselves around likely targets and have received more systems and moved more to the heavily suppressed areas where american planes are flying low. They managed to shoot down one plane, which brought helicopters, a-10s, and a c130, all significantly easier targets, over mainland iran. >>532362283The iran war, to me, is a sign that oct 7 was a strategic success in that it essentially dragged the US into another war, which relieves pressure on Russia.>>532362080Ukraine and Russia still have long range AD, so planes are much more skittish in that war and SHORAD gets used only against drones>>532362441A-10S were never all that survivable. The big titanium bathtub is for pilot survivability, they were always going to get shot down. They've just been a big COIN aircraft for a few decades. Also if a plane gets shot down at 40000 feet and the pilot ejects, hes likely landing in bumfuck nowhere and a10s and helicopters have a chance at grabbing him and getting out. If SHORAD hits a plane, the pilot will probably land in a place covered by SHORAD.
>>532361517is that actually legal? (If so, it's definitely at least unethical.)
>>532363688Azerbaijan is the region from where most of the stingers and other weapons used in the 12 day war as well as the Starlink sats were smuggled into Iran. It's also from where Ebrahim Raissi (ex-president of Iran) was killed. They're a hostile nation to Iran and yes, some, not all of those containers are inspected. If anything goes through them it's smuggled weapons in lower quantities hidden inside a cover of supplies, so back to what i was saying: mostly manpads and electronics.>>532363803I really do believe that the bulk of it goes through underground tunnels between Afghanistan and Iran
>>532361659If they are actually able to shoot airplanes down then zero.
>>532363942>The shootdowns seem like theyre done by SHORAD and manpads.No manpads, no. It's done by two systems that both rely on passive thermal seeking missiles and IR.The 3rd Khordad (medium range)And the Majid (a type of SHORAD truck)
>>532361059Oopsie… looks like Jewish intelligence assets are totally fake.
>>532361456This is true, the lying fake news media is spreading master media manipulator Iranian propaganda. All fake news media journalists should be charged with TREASON. Iran is totally decimated and we didnt need the strait of hormuz anyway.
>>532361456Goybot, post it again
>>532361456peak bait
>>532364320>Oopsie… looks like Jewish intelligence assets are totally fake.We know this from the absolute intel fuck-up of assessment of iranian missile stockpiles. The highest end estimate was of 2500 missiles but they're still firing between 20 and 50 a day, depending on the day, and they don't seem keen on sparing some. There's now speculation that the right number was between 5000 and 8000 missiles and even that could be wrong.Mind you, this 2500 missiles fired despite the 40,000 ammos dropped by US and Israeli aircraft and the alleged destruction of entire Iranian missile depotsEvery single assumption was wrong
>>532361059Rumor has it that israel sold it to iran. :^)))
>>532364075Why wouldn't it be? They are your enemies and are supporting their ally / your enemy. This is how war works.
>>532361456The people who hate the regime left long time ago. The iranians that are in usa talking about lions and pahlavis are former royalists or their descendants. They are considered traitors. Hell, pahlavi when he fled stole so much fucking money from iranian state treasury. You are not getting popular uprising. Not this time. The theocratic totalitarian regime sucks, but its their totalitarian regime.
>>532362254Who else has idea for new Age of Mythology?
>>532364521I don't believe that the assessments WERE incorrect, I think the Christian zionists in charge just fudged the numbers to get a figure they wanted. The fact that cooler minds evacuated all bases in the region really shows how much we knew. Those numbers were an inconvenience to Israel, though.
>>532364123we could argue for days but we will never knowthe one thing I am 100% sure of is that there is shit tonnes of freight moving into Iran via land and what happened in Ukraine from the west to them is now happening from the east to Iran
"We will demonstrate our capabilities in the field.New air defense systems that are being built domestically will be unveiled one after another in the field of action.We will definitely achieve full control over our country's sky and will prove the humiliation of the cowardly enemy to the world more than ever."
>>532361059Iran has unleashed its gamechanging new wunderwaffe. Washington DC will unconditionally surrender in 2 weeks!
Cead chinook, hit in Kuwait base I think
>>532364962Maybe so, but we're not seeing their effect so far. The jets were hit by KHORDAD and MAJID systems, the Iranians have a long time before exhausting their already existing stockpiles of drones and we haven't seen other weapons used and the solid state fuel sodium perchlorate they need is huge and typically requires shipment by sea, also, it's easily detectable without having to physically inspect what's loaded inside. That's how we know the Chinese made a delivery of 2000 tons of it to Iran right after the 12 day war.>>532364847>I think the Christian zionists in charge just fudged the numbers to get a figure they wantedThis wasn't a narrative driven estimate and it was done by serious people. It just so happens that the visibility they thought they had on the underground networks of Iran were wildly off and they likely have stockpiles in places we didn't even know existed.There's also a possibility of there being underground distributed missile manufacturing facilities churning 24/7 an hour that cannot be reached.
>>532361059Where did they get this from?Iranians are white and have just as good of IQs as europeans (not the kurds or baloch, but the azeris and persians). They invented the Shahed drone before Russia or the US thought of it; they have hypersonic missiles with capabilities that the US doesnt have (although china and russia do); they have novel AD. How? Theyre a country of 90m people who've been under attack for 47 years - they put their minds to it and invented, that's how.Jews btfo, lazy americans (maybe I am in this group too desu) btfo, fuck orange bitch zion don and satanic israel.
>>532361059We should nuke Tehran and every population center, hit every hospital and desalination plant and tell all the other despicable brown people on the planet that that will happen to them next if they ever try and get nukes and put themselves on equal footing.I would put Maduro on a leash and make him come out on all fours when I delivered the message to the rest of the world.
>>532361456in my opinion this is shitty bait, but i'm obviously wrong because we see that it was effective.
>>532365623>We should nuke Tehran and every population center, hit every hospital and desalination plantThat's the kind of unhinged discourse that shows how much you're winning.Also, if it can comfort you, you're already hitting the hospitals, universities and desalination plants as well as power plants.
>>532361456Eternal leaf. Good bait
>>532363385No one cares about shitting Russian vaporware that doesn't workIran builds its own systems and they are superior to Russian equipment.
>>532361059>where the fuck did they get this from?From the new air-defense system factory of course.
>>532365789Hit by a KHORDAD medium range weapon
>>532364625Oyest of gevalts
>>532361059>Iran deploys new air-defense system to counter US jeets.Damn, jeets can never catch a break.
>>532365623You are an evil jew and need to kys, fuck you. If anywhere gets nuked it should be haifa and tel aviv. Ideally jews just learn to stop being evil and won't need to be nuked.
>>532365879I agreeSend in the Argentinians
>>532365789probablythe point isIran can get pretty much anything it needs via landand until those routes are stopped this isn't going to end
>>532361059If China is getting involved Trump really needs to pull out of this mess. It's turning into America's Ukraine.
>>532362619Your wrong. Its easily verifiable that you are wrong. Why do you confidently post infactual information like you know anything when you clearly dont know shit.
>>532364847Lol, are you an intelligence salesman. Us government duped by isreal used car salesman.
>>532366372Ok, i'll give you the benefit of the doubt, then verify it if it's easily verifiable. Because the Iranians have been using their own Khordad and Majids to down those US jets so far. They have a very large stockpile of drones, so it'll take time before exhausting it and solid state fuel precursor chemicals are easily detectable without requiring physical inspections, the last such shipment from China came right after the 12 day war along with planetary mixers.I'm fairly confident that i'm more aware of the intricacies of what's happening in that terrain, but i'm willing to hear whatever conter-argument you have to present.Just don't hit me with the "you're wrong but i refuse to elaborate"
>>532365405Like dei purple hair serious? Or adult white male patriot serious?
>>532361456Why do you want to win?
>>532361568Iran also manufactures the Misagh series MANPADS.
>>532361568Russian and Chinese garbage has been worthless, everything Iran has that has been effective is stuff of their own design.
>>532361059But... Trump already won The War for Greater Israel like 37 times. This can't be real.
>>532361456
where indeed. guess this shall remain one of life's mysteries
>>532362108Russia and North Korea are the only countries that are known to in recent history have been willing to sell arms to Iran and cooperate with Iran on arms technology.For example, it is known that Russia has sold about two dozen units of Tor-M1 and 4 batteries of S-300PMU2 to Iran, that Russia has helped Iran build satellites and launch them into orbit, and that some Iranian missiles are closely related to North Korean designs.The British newspaper Financial Times recently claimed that Iran had placed an order with Russia for Verba MANPADS
>>532367421Also, I forgot: Kometa-M military-grade GLONASS receivers
>>532361889https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhjfxZHOT_o
>>532362108>russian>russian>russianrussia russia russia is a democrat hoax
>>532361517lol. iran has some of the best engineers in the world. do you know how long it takes to train s400 and how much logistics/radars/vehicles it requires?
>>532362080China doesnt want Russia to win. They want Russia and the west to exhaust themselves as much as possible
>>532361659Not zero.
>>532361821Thry have piles of bent and burnt metal. None of those exist any more. This was likely a new shipment from China. Which means they are still crap and the growlers will dispose of them soon.
>>532361456I hate my government too doesn't mean I would be friendly to another country bombing America
>>532361456best meme
>>532361059We will just put boots on the ground and disable them. America thrives on killing brown sand niggers
>>532361059>Where the fuck did they get this from???
>>532361059Iran has been holding AA in reserve because it knows that any agression against it will be heavily air based and likely to begin with a surprise attack since they aren't the aggressors. It's like how they keep deploying new missiles, they used the old stock and then they use the newer stuff later. It all comes from the same caves while the US first strike mostly pops balloons and old systems to lul into false sense of security.
It's actually really simple, Iran and China actually try to improve and have actual enemies.The US doesn't give a shit about it's natives and will make them extra retarded goys and will hope foreigners will be good enough to stay relevant.
>>532361059>Ohnoes why didnt Iran's MIC buy advertising to tell everybody about all their capabilities long before the war starts!?Iran invented ChessUSA invented Cornhole>Mutts gonna get cornholed everytime
>>532369212>Thry have piles of bent and burnt metal. None of those exist any more. This was likely a new shipment from China.It was not.It was Khordad and Majid IR based systems with passive thermal seeking Iranian missiles, not Chinese systems. Confirmed by both Iran and the US.These can be mounted on cars or trucks and easily concealed. It's actually much easier to conceal them than even short range missiles that are used against Gulf countries and they don't have a radar signature to detect.
can we do boobs on the ground instead
>>532362108Thank you for the cia narrative, doesn't make it true though.
>>532361417Time to learn to fly a jet 4–5 years.Time to learn how to operate a manpad and shoot down a jet 20 min.Jet costs Around 60–100 million USDcost.of.manpad around 25k–50000 usd.The missiles defeated plane!
>>532361059I like that MIGA is shocked that Trump lied.
>>532363536So wrong.manoads operate in the visible range where a human can see.and in low altitude.But when planes fly high the radars see them.Planes have a higher chance to survive and continue flying when hit from manpad ,because the missile is small and has smaller warhead .That's all.And no pilot will get a warning when a manpad is launched at him.The silent dealtb from belowahahahhhahahahah
>>532369340This fucker must be sued for treason of Russia and executed!
>>532370034>manoads operate in the visible range where a human can see.and in low altitude.Manpads are primarily infrared (IR) homing missiles.They have a shorter range, thus why they're wildly ineffective against US jets.The Iranian hits have been using systems that also rely on IR but benefit from longer ranges, namely:> Khordad 3> Majid
>>532362254THIS WOULD BE SO FUNNY IF THIS WERE TRUE, BLUMPF WOULD BE SO MAD 'STOP SHOOTING DOWN OUR JETS, WE ALREADY WON !!!'
>>532361059China or Russia. Whatever it is can fuck us up nowWe don't have the cards
>>532361059They actually produce them domestically but they also get them from Russia and China probably and NK is also involvedThey also have their own space program and satellites
Kikeed
>>532361456>this war is winnablealmost 100 postshttps://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/text/%22this%20war%20is%20winnable%22/
>>532371767based
>>532361456Yesterday they were saying how this is nothing compared to desert storm and that people who didn't want to die for Israel are brown.
They had them last year but the US destroyed them during the 12 day war.
>>532361059Obviously from China. Get ready to watch it fail spectacularly.
>>532367552>Also, I forgot: Kometa-M military-grade GLONASS receiversIran has completely switched to Beidou now as it has superior performance.
>>532361456Why are always non-Americans the biggest simps for the American empire? Not even Americans are this cucked
>>532369486>It was KhordadThe Khordad system uses only radar guided missiles and large search and track radars, the type of SAM system that USAF is specialized in destroying. The american problem is that Iran has IR sams that are targeted and guided entirely by passive means, meaning that their standard tactics and weapons are useless. Its those that are troublesome. But these systems also have a low maximum altitude and low range, meaning that you can just fly higher and get past them.
Kikeddd
>>532376376Why are always Germans the ones who can't understand sarcasm or nuance?
>>532361659Interesting thought Prolong the war to bring forth their Jew raptureSubvert the goy from both sides Good thinking anon
>>532364075>is that actually legal?what the fuck does that even mean. gonna send the cops to arrest the president of china? retard
People don't realise that it not just America fighting Iran but also Russia
>>532363165>MAGAPEDESony retarded trannies use that word.
>>532379127I prefer MAGGOTS. Maggots feed on the corpses
>>532361517Just say brics browns is annoying to have to keep distinguishing between Communist turdies.
>new AD system>clearly has the same interface as all the videos they've posted over the last month
>>532361059Orange Daddy and Pete have lied about everything. Iran has enormous capabilities.
>>532378912>russiathey are opportunists. i hesitate to claim they have any real allies that wouldn't turn on them if the deal is good.
>>532361659100%
>>532378912You mean China. Russia hasn't done much of anything and never does when it comes to Israel, too many Russian Jews live there to make it a politically viable target.
>>532379547That is the nature of all political alliances.
>>532363385they ordered them too late, they signed agreements with russia few months before attackthey could destroy allmost all usa aviation except strategic bombers if they have functional air defence>>532363536they will not be able to build normal air defence, they should have thought about it during peace time, manpads will allow them to ambush usa planes and helicoptersusa was able to rescue pilot an get deeper into iran on helicopters because that they had no mobile air defence groupsi think they need 3-4k manpads just to react fast
>>532362080Russia doesn't buy them.
>>532380101then by that metric the EU shouldn't exist.neither should US-CAN run military drills together.but it's more complex than that, right?
>>532378000Chinese passive IR has a detection range for the F-35 of 1800km
>>532361059MOOOO OUR ENEMIES ARE SUPPOSED TO BE WEAK NOT STRONG HOW CAN WE WIN NOW NOOO
>>532380373>EU>US-CANBoth these example have been publicly turning on each other for years anon. Nevermind what goes on behind closed doors.
>>532362080Because these are for shooting down aircrafts, not drones you retarded mutt
>>532380539precisely.what they gain is parasitism. yet they are still aligned. why?next you are going to tell me china is actually the good guys
>>532361059>Iran deploys new air-defense system
>>53236105910000 sorties 2 downed planes, wow that new “air defense” really pays for itself>>532361517You write like pan faced gook seething through a vpn. “Hurrrr amerwiguh fowniess howm videeeos hurrr” are you actually a chink boomer, that shit hasn’t been relevant since the early, early 2000s. Get better bants gook
>>532364669MIGA retards have been swallowing Trump propaganda that Russia is a US ally and Ukraine is their real enemy. The fact that Russia is indirectly killing American soldiers now has not changed their opinion.They can not give you a real reason to justify why they believe this. Their opinions are downloaded directly from Fox News.
>>532380026Haha, keep believing this nonsense, that's a good one.Russia is 100% helping
>>532380741>they are still aligned. why?As I said, all political alliances are based on the material interests and opportunism you mentioned as regards Russia. They are aligned because it is a better deal than not being aligned, but they will still turn on each other whenever it suits them.>the good guysThere are no 'good' guys' but if you consider peace and stability to be good, then China definitely does less harm than the USA. China's not the one who has been invading and/or destabilizing countries all over the world.
>>532366544Hmm as if this thread and all the recent US air losses isnt proof if this enough but Iran got some new Chinese tech after the 12 day war. You will have too look at Iranian sources because kike western media denied or didn't report on it. Im gonna spoon feed you. Reality is already playing out in front of your retarded face.
>>532380932Exactly what kind of support has Russia provided to Iran?
>>532380999but you just said they turned on each other and hate each other due to it being 'a bad deal'.so what is really keeping them together? can you quantify a response?
>>532381049It all won't be reported to you on the interwebz, yankee. Military secret
>>532380880>Trump propaganda that Russia is a US allyTrump was the one who tore up the missile agreements with Russia, Trump was the one who first sent advanced US weapons to Ukraine in his first term, Trump was the one who first launched US strikes against the SAA another Russian allies in the Middle East. You appear to have downloaded your opinions directly from MSNBC.
>>532381193>you just said they turned on each otherMmhm. Public spats between EU members, USA threatening Canadian sovereignty, I'm assuming you know all this already.>hate each other due to it being 'a bad deal'I said no such things.>what is really keeping them together?Material interests, as I just said. Are you being deliberately obtuse?
>>532380999Keep dreaming, yankee, meanwhile watch your back US will stab you all over hahaha they are openly saying this. You have no alliance with anyone, lying deceitful devious people
>>532381224So in other words, you're just making baseless assertions.
>>532364075Mutt golem complaining about what is ethical is the funniest this week.
>>532381367so in your mind, the deal is both terrible and should be ripped up.but also it's good enough to keep?you don't have any real objective points. just trying to shit up our board with CCP propaganda that our world order is coming to an end. when it's really just a few key players such as russia & iran causing problems.
>>532381404Keep narking, kike shill. You, shills are seen from a mile away. Nothing will be reported to ya, keep fishing glowie shill
>>532361059The entire American airforce was defeated by a man with a stick
>>532361059>>532361517Its the hubris of the golem that they forgot to improve their weapons. Dei women and niggers are more important.
>>532366544Inb4 you deny sources that arent kiked. Reality will show Iran has capabilities beyond what your current narrative allows and you will move goalposts to cope like you have been this whole conflict.https://defencesecurityasia.com/en/china-iran-ylc-8b-anti-stealth-radar-f35-b2-middle-east-airpower-shift/?utm_source=chatgpt.com
>>532361659jews sold American tech to China in the 80s, now China is selling it to Iran. That's just the circle of life, nothing could have been done about it!
>>532381501>in your mind, the deal is both terrible and should be ripped upI don't even know what deal you are trying to talk about at this point. I never said any deal was terrible, you are mentally shadowboxing with yourself. You probably need to go outside for a while.
>>532361417What the fuck is a magnetic fastener?
>>532381619Exactly. These little kike shills live inside their little fantasy narrative
>>532381508Boy I'm so disappointed you won't share all your super secret knowledge with me. :'(
>>532381404russia provides advisors and weapon supplyusa can fuck up iran if they make serious preparations, it will last few years, but if they do certain things iran will have no changesjust like ukraine lost war of attrition and allmost all manpowerof cource oil will be 200 and eurocucks will have fuel rationining lolits in russian interest to make usa chicken out or bog there, USA can also unblock hormuz
>>532381665you don't understand this argument, because your goal posts keep getting moved.now you don't even have a concrete point.maybe you should stop trying to argue with everyone in this thread?yappy little poodle
>>532381673American education is incredible
>>532381948If my point is lost on you, that's your own shortcoming. For the last couple posts you've been assigning ideas to me, so you can argue against them. That kind of shadowboxing is something you can do alone my friend. I really do recommend you spend some time outdoors today.
>>532382310>CuntWhat is 4chan trying to say by giving me this ID
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>>532382379Hearty keks, I'm pretty envious being a cunt and all.
>>532362080Obvious answer is ukraine isn’t important for china, iran is
>>532368607I don’t think its s400, but there is no reason to think they weren’t being trained for months. Iranians and Russians have both confirmed that they kicked up exchange between the two countries since the “12 day way”
>>532382345you never had a point.all you are doing is agitating everyone ITT with 'muh evil world' philosophy like allies don't truly exist.lmaoget lost, chink.you are genuinely too retarded for meaningful discussion
>>532382885>'muh evil world' philosophyAnd there you go again. I'm realistic about how states act in their own self-interest, making and breaking alliances as it suits them, just as individuals will do. Self-interest is what motivates them. This doesn't mean I'm saying that the world is evil. You seem underage.
>>532383086no. you claim alliances that don't work don't exist, because it doesn't benefit anyone.but at the same time, they benefit everyone so they should exist.you are fucking brain dead. like i have repeatedly mentioned, you don't have a point.maybe you ought to get a job, instead of spending your day on 4chan making non-points.
>>532361659Israel has access to absolutely all corporate emails. They sell all amerivan tech to china. China gives it to iran tp dismantle israel and the usa. This is just hilarious.
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>>532362080First of all, russia has been winning for 3 years. Secobdly, russia has a shit ton of formely chinese territory that it took from china when it was at the weakest point in a recent history. Russia is also a nuclear countrybat their border. Weak russia is in chinas interest. They won't let nato win, but they want russia to be weakened to the point of becoming their vasal state.
>>532361059USA is one black hawk down and a few resulting FPV drone snuff films away from the greatest domestic chimp out of all time
>>532361059>where the fuck did they get this from???oh so now you know how Russia has felt for the last 3+ years.
>>532362080>why dont china deliver antiair systems to russiabecause Cucklesky doenst have a plane in sky you fucking Eglin mutt
>>532361059Based Iran
>>532381254Who lifted sanctions on Russian oil you fucking leaftard?
>>532384247Whoa a US president trying to keep the gas prices down, so crazy, must be a literal KGB agent. Are you going to address any of the things I brought up or just be a pigheaded idiot?
>>532361059A better question would be why they didn't use it earlier, the elder Khamenei probably would have appreciated that.The next question is how long will it remain operational.
>>532362222>attack country for no reason>gets upset someone is helping said country you attacked>nice digits tho
>>532362247Post these global news then, can't seem to find it
>>532383699:))))) They are shocked someone is finally fighting back, these paper tiger bullies, it's epic
>>532362080Ukraine is not known for its large air force lol
>>532362108Divide any Ukrainian claims by about seven or admit to being retarded
>>532361059It was behind the couch the whole time.
>>532361059Hand held launchers. More conviction needed. Scorched Earth. The slow tedious drum roll into the inevitable. Why has it taken even longer to convince that it is necessary. It went in there like a cowboy with a 6 shooter, and then it debated halting a nuclear program by allowing its reactors and fuel? Oh well. It still holds it over them. Is it worried about raising the stakes. No. It's played that hand. Tedious
>>532361059>No link lol pol tards respond to anything
>>532382379>scuntplay much tf2?
>>532362619>There is no established corridor for weapons through Afghanistan or Pakistan and if there was any it'd be bombed.Professor Pape says that Iran got it's centrifuges from Pakistan. If that's the case, I doubt they'd stop weapons shipments from China to Iran. I doubt they'd widen the war to start bombing Pakistan at this point but maybe when things escalate further and there are lots of ground troops killed.
>>532385978Woah, a US president lifting sanctions on the country that is actually killing US soldiers (Iran) and lifting sanctions on the country that is indirectly killing US soldiers (Russia). Yeah, that’s fucking retarded.I can’t tell who is more retarded, you or Trump. It’s a close race to the Down Syndrome Championship.
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