So this just slipped through quietly.Germany updated its military law.Men between 17 and 45 now need permission to leave the country for extended periods.Let that sink in.You don’t own your movement anymore.Your body is no longer fully yours.You are now a state-reserved asset.And the funniest part?Most guys won’t even react.They’ll keep arguing online about feminism, dating, culture wars, while the state literally reintroduces control over their existence.Here’s the uncomfortable truth:The system was never about “women vs men.”That’s just the distraction layer.The real structure is this:Women were historically controlled through social and legal dependencyMen are controlled through obligation and expendability (war, labor, sacrifice)Different mechanisms. Same system.You don’t free men by fighting women.You don’t free women by controlling men.You break the system by rejecting ownership over human bodies entirely.If a woman has the right to decide over her body,then a man has the same right not to be deployed, not to be restricted, not to be used.No forced service.No hidden mobilization structures.No silent laws passed without public awareness.If war makes sense to someone, they will go voluntarily.If it doesn’t no state has the right to force them.That’s real autonomy.And until men understand that their freedom is structurally linked to the same principle as women’s freedom, nothing changes.You’re not fighting each other.You’re both inside the same system, just on different endpoints.And right now?They just tightened the leash.
>>532377413>You break the system by rejecting ownership over human bodiesany anarchist society is disorganized, it is a weak system, and it will be overpowered by any society that embraces the strength of organization under hierarchy
>>532377413holy fuck learn to use paragraphs. also, ukraine has shown us that if someone tries to put you in a bus, you can just stab them. if they make knives illegal, sharpen a fucking stick and stab them with that. the people trying to kill you are the people drafting you. none of your enemies are outside your country.
germany is the testing ground for drafting mutts in muttland
>>532377560>overpoweredbut an anarchist society can disorganise the organised society just enough for another organised society to crush it for them>lose lose
>>532377413>now need permission to leave the country for extended periodsJews kvetching rn, I've barely ever left my province, sorry you're a clayless Jew servant class Klaus
>>532377825wow what a normal organic post that totally isn't from a paid government contract
>>532377825
>>532377413They won’t do shit.
>>532377560You’re assuming conflict is inevitable.There’s no evidence that societies attack each other if they live within their capacities. Most wars come from expansion pressure and systems that depend on growth, not from “lack of hierarchy.”If there’s no need to expand, there’s no structural reason to invade.So your argument only works if you assume aggression is a constant, and that assumption comes from the very systems you’re defending.
>>532377825>enlistyes, zet vill happen>serve your countryno, you vill not serve ze fatherland. you might serve ze other countries, the onces occupying you, or not even a country but a clique
>>532377707lol I get what you’re trying to say, but “just stab them” isn’t a strategy, that’s just chaos.The real takeaway is this:yeah, pressure often comes from inside your own system, not some external boogeyman. That part is true.But going full caveman on individuals just plays right into the same cycle of force.If a system needs to drag people into it against their will, that’s already a sign it’s weak on legitimacy.Real power move isn’t random violence, it’s people collectively saying “no” and the system not being able to enforce it anymore.That’s when things actually shift.
>accept in millions of fighting age men as refugees.>refuse to let your fighting age men leave for longer than 3 months without permission.what did they mean by this?
>>532378289yeah you’re kinda hitting the point, just overcooking it a bit.“serve your country” sounds nice, but in reality you’re often serving whatever interests, alliances or agendas are running things at that moment.doesn’t have to be some secret clique, it’s just how modern states work. messy, not clean, not really about “the people” in a pure sense.and that’s exactly why people don’t like the idea of being forced into it.
>>532378258there is a need to expand, and powerful European countries are doing ze opposite. zis will come to an end, if Europe wants a seat at ze world leaders table, conflict is inevitable. not a conflict with russia, zey are not stepping on your toes. America however....
>>532377413Literally fake news, kys polak
>>532378498it’s basically a signal that citizenship comes with obligations, not just rights.measures like that imply the state expects its own citizens to be available in a crisis, including the possibility of being sent to fight.so yeah, the underlying message is pretty clear:if it comes down to it, you’re expected to stand for the state, even at the highest cost.
>>532378498i find it absurdly funny:black niggas from african countries are joining russian armed forces for couple hundred dollars a month.third generation turks and arabs in germany won't even join as reservists for 5x that money
>>532378258>"Without debating the usefulness or morality of planned parenthood, it may be verified by observation that any breed which stops its own increase gets crowded out by breeds which expand.">Robert A. Heinlein, Starship Troopers
>>532379011you’re literally describing the problem yourself.if people from outside are willing to fight for money, but people inside the country don’t even want to join voluntarily, what does that tell you?it tells you the system doesn’t have real buy-in from its own population.and that’s exactly the point:how is this supposed to work long-term?you can’t build a stable system on people who don’t actually want to defend it. forcing them won’t fix that, it just exposes the gap even more.
>>532379150so what you’re saying is: if people don’t reproduce or don’t want to defend a system, they get replaced?then that should make you question the system itself.why would people not want to have kids or not want to fight for it?maybe because they don’t see it as worth it.you can’t fix that by quoting Heinlein or pushing inevitability.you either build something people actually believe in, or you try to compensate with pressure and force.and we’re clearly moving toward the second.
>>532378380>But going full caveman on individuals just plays right into the same cycle of force.exactly. the legitimacy of any state is ultimately derived from having a monopoly on force. if the people start using force against the state, well, it turns out that the people outnumber the state and the state's "enforcers" will only keep going to work if getting killed by the people you are supposed to "protect and serve" is happening on a weekly basis. force is the only authority.>If a system needs to drag people into it against their will, that’s already a sign it’s weak on legitimacy.stating the obvious>Real power move isn’t random violence, it’s people collectively saying “no” and the system not being able to enforce it anymore.how would you do that? (checks every history book) oh yeah, with violence! otherwise elaborate on the methods that will be effective for changing shit since voting doesn't work, protesting doesn't work, and writing letters to your congressman doesn't work. i want a concrete example. otherwise the real power move is random violence against the people attacking you and trying to kidnap you to go die for some foreign power that has blackmailed your politicians.>That’s when things actually shift.yes, with the use of force. if it is not with the use of force, show me a concrete example of another method working and that method can not be voting or protesting since those have been tried in the past three decades and nothing changed. it got worse.
>>532378258>If there’s no need to expand, there’s no structural reason to invade.please explain the mongols, they wrecked europe and asia and then just went home back to their yurts. you're peddling demoralization propaganda and talk like a leftist.
>>532380673you’re not wrong that force sits at the end of it, but you’re skipping how things actually unfold. it never starts with random violence, that just gets crushed instantly and used as justification to clamp down harder. what actually breaks systems is when people stop believing in them, then they stop participating, and eventually they stop funding and complying altogether. that’s the point where enforcement starts failing because it just doesn’t scale anymore.only after that does anything escalate, not the other way around. history isn’t violence first, it’s legitimacy collapsing first. and the core issue here is simple: if a state starts claiming ownership over your body, whether it’s sending you to war or anything else, people will eventually push back. the only real question is how many reach that point at the same time.
>>532380803mongols didn’t expand because “hierarchy strong, others weak,” they expanded because they had to.steppe life is harsh as hell. limited pasture, unstable climate, constant pressure on resources. if your population grows but your land doesn’t, you either fight over what’s there or you move outward.so yeah, at the core it’s simple: they needed more land to sustain their people, more grazing space, more tribute, more resources.once they figured out they could win consistently, expansion became the system itself. success fed more expansion.but that’s also why it didn’t last in that form. once they had more land than they could realistically manage and supply, it fragmented. holding territory requires stability, not just conquest.so the mongols aren’t proof that “expansion is strength,” they’re proof that expansion is often driven by resource pressure, and eventually hits limits.
>>532377413That will never happen unless a significant enough portion of men permanently "stop" their kidnapper when their homes are invaded
>>532382049let’s be real, most men won’t do anything drastic.like always, the majority will comply, rationalize it, or just hope it won’t hit them personally. that’s how these systems keep running in the first place.that’s exactly why the whole “individual resistance” angle doesn’t scale.if anything changes, it’s because people start aligning on a broader principle, like bodily autonomy.and yeah, historically, movements around that kind of idea often gain real momentum when women are involved, because they’ve been organizing around those questions for a long time.so instead of this fragmented “everyone fights their own battle” mindset, the only thing that actually has leverage is a shared front around the idea that no one should be forced into roles against their will.
>>532382352You are missing something. When it is about giving some benefits to women, women vote for it, and their simps (men) also vote for it. When it is about giving some benefits to men, women vote against it, and a significant portion of men also vote against it, so you can never achieve this with peaceful ways (voting)
>>532382352>bodily autonomyyou're a leftist trying to concern troll
>>532383310look at the language and shitty argumentation. this is a leftist and they are running the "bodily autonomy" angle because that also applies to abortion and trannys. when faced with the only option that has worked in ukraine, stabbing the people trying to kidnap you, they backpedal and say violence isn't the answer and try to get you to join their "bodily autonomy" movement/cause/whatever.
>>532377413>That’s real autonomy.>You’re not fighting each other.>And right now?>They just tightened the leash.man, chatgpt is so easy to identify nowadays. Nice AI post OP. This shit should be banned
>>532383310you’re reducing everything to “men vs women,” but that’s not really how this plays out.people don’t vote as a unified gender block, they vote based on incentives, narratives, and what they personally think benefits them or is morally right.and yeah, sometimes men vote against their own interests, but that’s not some gender conspiracy, that’s just how fragmented societies behave.the bigger issue is what you already hinted at: voting alone doesn’t fix structural problems.but that doesn’t mean the answer is turning it into a gender war either. that just weakens any chance of actual leverage.if anything changes, it’s because people align around a shared principle, like not being forced into things against their will not because one side tries to outvote the other.
>>532383722that’s a pretty dumb take desu.no one is saying you can’t defend yourself if someone is using force on you, that’s obvious. if violence is applied, people will respond. that’s not some “leftist angle,” that’s basic reality.but jumping straight to that as the only solution is just low IQ strategy.the smarter move is avoiding getting into that situation in the first place. and you get way more leverage by aligning with a broader principle like bodily autonomy than by isolating yourself.and yeah, that includes working with movements that already push that idea, including women because they’ve already built pressure around it.you can go solo and play tough guy, or you can use existing momentum to make sure you don’t get dragged into it at all. your choice.
>>532387266lmao you go from >that’s a pretty dumb take desu.(nice job getting caught by the wordfilter chatbot/concern troll)to>the smarter move is avoiding getting into that situation in the first place. and you get way more leverage by aligning with a broader principle like bodily autonomy than by isolating yourself.>and yeah, that includes working with movements that already push that idea, including women because they’ve already built pressure around it.so apparently my "dumb take" is exactly what you are doing you lying retard. you're trying to get people who are against the war and being drafted to join up with trannys and whores.
>>532387121>but that doesn’t mean the answer is turning it into a gender war either. that just weakens any chance of actual leverage.So, you think the person who will be sent to kidnap you will be a female? Why are you deflecting my words? If you value your freedom enough to resist your kidnappers, you'd be against your fellow men, not women.
>>532377413go die for gaychicken feminism
>>532377413Blacks are demons and jews are the devil
>>532377413trump's grandfather was draft dodger from Bavariaif you want to have future and a lot of money you need to dodge drafthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_TrumpIn 1885, at age 16, Trump immigrated via Bremen, Germany, to the United States aboard the steamship Eider, departing on October 7[6]:32 and arriving at the Castle Garden Immigrant Landing Depot in New York City on October 19. As he had not yet served the mandatory military duty of two years in the Kingdom of Bavaria, this emigration was illegal under Bavarian law.[14] U.S. immigration records list his name as "Friedr. Trumpf" and his occupation as "none"
>>532387680what’s actually your problem with aligning on a shared goal?you don’t have to agree with everything someone believes to work together on one issue. that’s how literally every movement with real leverage has ever worked.the point isn’t “join their entire ideology,” it’s: if multiple groups push the same principle like not being forced into things against their will, that creates pressure.or you can stay fragmented, argue about labels, and get nowhere.so yeah, what exactly is the downside of cooperating on a single objective if it helps you avoid being dragged into something you don’t want?
>>532377413if they give you guns to fight in war couldnt you turn them on your superiors and organize with other conscripts?
>>532387856nah, the whole point is the opposite.not dying for anything you didn’t choose, that’s it.call it whatever label you want, doesn’t change the core idea:your body isn’t something the state gets to assign.
>>532389914that’s not how it plays out.inside the military you’ve got a lot of people who are fully on board with the system, so you’re not dealing with some unified group that’ll suddenly flip. trying to “organize from within” is way harder than it sounds.if people don’t want to be there, the real leverage isn’t inside the structure it’s outside, before it even gets that far.that’s why the numbers matter. people who don’t want to be forced into it only have weight if they’re not fragmented. and that’s where broader alignment comes in not about agreeing on everything, just about pushing the same core idea that no one should be forced into roles against their will.
>>532389457yeah and that kinda proves the point.people have always avoided being forced into systems they don’t believe in especially when it comes to being sent off to serve or fight.it’s not new, it’s just usually framed differently depending on who’s talking about it.the real takeaway isn’t “be like him,” it’s that if enough people don’t see the system as worth committing to, they’ll find ways around it.and once that becomes widespread, it’s a sign the system has a legitimacy problem, not a people problem.
>>532389861>what’s actually your problem with aligning on a shared goal?because it benefits you (trannys/whores) way more than it benefits men being drafted. men being drafted are never going to win by screaming my body my choice. if your government is fighting a war that is so unpopular that the people have to be forced to fight and die for their "country" then your government doesn't give a fuck about your rights and the correct move is to meet force with force. the retarded and ineffective thing to do would be to hang out with leftists screeching about bodily autonomy.
>>532389935>your body isn’t something the state gets to assign.>>532390036>no one should be forced into roles against their will.yup, it's a tranny
>>532377413Esc?
>>532390144do you actually believe men are overall worse off than women in terms of freedom?like really think it through over a full lifetime.men might face things like draft pressure, sure, but women deal with completely different constraints. pregnancy alone is a massive one. if they’re in a relationship and kids come into play, it’s their body, their health, their long-term impact, men don’t carry that burden in the same way.so it’s not as simple as “men oppressed, women free.” both sides have different pressures and tradeoffs.that’s exactly why turning it into a competition doesn’t help. it just keeps everyone divided while the system does its thing.the only angle that actually cuts through all of that is the simple one: nobody should be forced into decisions about their own body, whether that’s war or anything else.
>>532377413>You don’t own your movement anymore. >Your body is no longer fully yours. Alright but the belief that you can and should be able to travel to whatever country you want to is globalist. We are and always have been serfs in a bigger man's world. Can't even be mad about it, I'm not seething that I can't go to space for example.
>>532390258so you’d rather die in a war you didn’t choose than accept the idea that people should decide over their own bodies?because that’s literally the trade-off here.you can argue about labels all day, but at the end of it, it’s simple: either the state owns your body in a crisis or it doesn’t.pick one.
>>532377413You're not on discord. You can use things like multiple sentences on a line, or even paragraphs, and stop being a subhuman. Whenever you're ready though, no pressure.
>>532390364OK toots, well you form an alliance with 45 year old Julias who still get their world view from facebook and Bild and hold little placards together. You'll be absolutely invincible
>>532390104modern draft was created by napoleon because he had no money to pay soldiers (french have no money as usual lol) to fight all his warssimple as that, it worked more or less in 19 and early 20 century when all people were peasants and factory workersfor example ukraine drafts own people, they have 10 times higher loses than russians, number of ukrainian deserters is almost equal to russian land army in ukrainezog knows nobody will fight for them, even mercenaries, so the only option is to use some force
>>532390429that’s just a straight up slave mindset.“it’s always been like this, so it’s fine” isn’t an argument, it’s resignation.yeah, historically people had less freedom, that doesn’t mean you just accept whatever restrictions get added next.by that logic you could justify literally anything.the whole point is questioning where the line is.and when it comes to your own body and movement, a lot of people are starting to see that line getting crossed.you don’t have to be “mad you can’t go to space”, but being okay with the state deciding where you can and can’t go is a completely different level.
>>532390789humans only have so much autonomy it doesnt matter how much freedom the state gives you. real issue is that being sent for a war while having shitty birth rates and for another country is completely retarded. im concerned with being sent to die overseas and not having any contingency. if i was drafted for a war that made sense it would be necessary regardless of my choice.
>>532377413Start killing shitskins.Total shitskin death! Fuck their brown welfare pets!!!
>>532390499you are fucking retarded if you think a ukranian is going to avoid bussification by reciting locke and making a compelling speech about the rights of man. a government drafting people isn't deterred by your technicality bullshit. that's why everyone thinks you are retarded. you paying a doctor to say "congratulations, you are a woman now" and then paying a lawyers to say "congratulations, you are a woman now" and then paying to have all you accounts and name and drivers license changed to say "congratulations, you are a woman now" and so you have spent all of this money and all the people who took your money assured you that you are a woman, but the people who you didn't pay don't see you as a woman. You have no womb. anyway, your entire thesis is the same retarded logic. you think that protesting and creating popular opposition will stop a draft. it didn't in vietnam. we know the tyrannical government will do whatever it wants. you, on the other hand, are using this popular anti-draft momentum and like a jew saying "how can i profit off this?" you are trying to argue (badly might i add) that bodily autonomy is important anti-draft messaging (it isn't) and therefore people against the draft should support bodily autonomy even though it only benefits whores and trannys.
>>532390144The pandemic response already showed that "my body my choice" is a meme.
>>532391052you’re missing the bigger dynamic.it’s not about giving a perfect speech and the state suddenly backing off. nobody serious thinks that. governments don’t stop because of arguments, they stop when pressure scales.and that’s exactly where this can turn into something bigger.if more and more people rally around the same core principle, that the state doesn’t own your body, you force the system into a corner. either it backs off, or it has to openly use force against its own population.and once that happens at scale, everyone sees it for what it is.that’s the shift. not some abstract moral argument, but pushing things to a point where the contradiction becomes visible to everyone, not just a few people online.you can stay fragmented and argue about labels, or you can stack pressure until the system has to show its hand.
>>532391973>haha we said they would draft us and they are haha we won everyone can see how awful the government is!leftists are fucking retards
>>532391004that’s exactly the next logical point.if people are expected to fight and potentially die, then at the very least it has to be for something that actually makes sense and is clearly justified.not vague narratives, not shifting goals, not some indirect proxy mess.people aren’t stupid, they can tell the difference between a situation that directly matters and one that feels disconnected from their own reality.and yeah, transparency matters. if a state expects that level of commitment, then no half-truths, no manufactured pretexts. otherwise don’t be surprised when people don’t buy in.because once that trust is gone, forcing it just makes the disconnect even worse.
>>532392094you’re still missing the chain of events.when pressure builds and a government starts acting against its own population, that’s when things escalate, not because people are celebrating, but because legitimacy starts breaking down.and history shows where that can lead. once enough people feel the system has crossed a line, you get major upheaval, like what happened in places such as France.the point isn’t cheering for it, it’s recognizing that if a system keeps pushing against its own people, it risks triggering exactly that kind of backlash.
>>532392215our government is already completely illegitimate and people are already sick of it. your bodily autonomy nonsense is superfluous.
>>532379511You're presenting the problems without presenting solutions.>They do *this*!Yeah, we know. Been like that for a long time now.>>532381906That's lots fancy system-theoretic analysis, though you sound like an LLM tasked with stating the obvious.Your core thesis is "reject the ownership of human bodies". Then you were asked how you plan to actually do the rejecting. And you answered (>>532381784) that it's about a majority forming a consensus. That at a certain point "enforcement starts failing because it just doesn’t scale anymore".So what is that point at which the "rejecting" is actualized? And how does it look like?Remembering soviet joke: "Half the country sit in prisons, while the other half guards them". 1 to 1 ratio is sufficient to govern every "non-agent". But clearly you need much less guards to actually maintain the system. See jewkraine. Do you think most people here want to die? No, they do not. So, compared to the rest of the dissatisfied population the army is much less in proportion, yet the system continues doing what it wants to, because it does so at a slow pace, so not to trigger a revolt.People now started knifing recruitment gangs, yet you consider that "just chaos".What the fuck is your point?
>>532377413>Fight for women's rights to fight for men's rightsdon't fall for this. That's the same line feminists have been using for 60 fucking years>But all of your problems are caused by the patriarchy so if you help us smash the patriarchy then your problems will be fixed too!Then when MRAs started talking about men's issues, feminists fought against it hard. They never meant it. Feminists are against men's rights, period. Where are any feminists talking about Ukraine's inhumane treatment against males? There are more feminists whining about Ukrainian women.
>>532378637It’s true though, the media just didn’t report on all the changes to the law that were made in January this year.(3) Außerhalb des Spannungs- oder Verteidigungsfalls gelten die §§ 3, 8a bis 20b, 25, 32 bis 35, 44 und 45.What does Artikel/Clause 3 refer to? You can look up all the recent changes to the military law here:https://www.buzer.de/gesetz/5521/al233901-0.htmhttps://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/wehrpflicht-maenner-bis-45-muessen-laengere-auslandsaufenthalte-genehmigen-lassen-a-75dadcaa-967e-48be-abf9-bcd1000c0fd4https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article69d0d5678ba297d4b122ec55/neues-wehrdienstgesetz-maenner-zwischen-17-und-45-brauchen-seit-januar-eine-genehmigung-um-deutschland-laenger-zu-verlassen.htmlhttps://www.reddit.com/r/de/comments/1sb7r9x/drastische_wehrpflicht%C3%A4nderung_l%C3%A4ngere/Why did German media only start reporting about the implications of changes to the military service now, 4 months after the law was passed?
>>532392400>What the fuck is your point?it's a tranny trying to get men to join the bodily autonomy movement by arguing it will help stop a draft from being enacted
>>532377413Don't care hans. Are muslims kids hanging by their necks in Berlin? No then stfu
>>532392119remigration and globalist purge would be the only reasonable war warranting a draft. its invaders and traitors in our own country. it would be harsh because we're not fighting actual soldiers or trying to shoot anyone, but not dangerous because theyre not capable of insurgent violence. It would be genuine work instead of sitting around waiting to get drone striked.
>>532377413I'm with you dude. Do what you have to.
>>532377812Australia would be more realistic; it's harder to escape than the US.Germany is easier.
>>532392400that’s exactly the point, most people still believe in the system enough to not break with it.they might complain, they might hate parts of it, but they don’t fully reject it. so they comply, adapt, or hope it won’t hit them personally.and as long as that baseline belief or acceptance is there, nothing fundamentally changes.the system doesn’t need everyone on board, it just needs enough people not to resist in a coordinated way.that’s why it keeps going.
>>532392515because a lot of them genuinely see war as something historically driven by male power structures, so their focus ends up on women as victims of those systems, not on men being forced into them.you don’t have to agree with that framing, but that’s where it comes from.the mistake is turning that into “they’re against men.” it’s more like they’re looking at a different part of the same problem.and that’s exactly why this keeps going nowhere, everyone stays in their own narrative instead of recognizing the overlap:men being forced to fight and women being affected by war are both consequences of the same system.if you only defend one side, nothing changes.
>>532392571it’s not that deep desu.laws like that get passed quietly all the time, and most of them don’t get attention until someone connects the dots or frames it in a way people react to.media doesn’t ignore it because they think “we’re about to get serious,” they ignore it because, at the time, it doesn’t look urgent or clickable.once the implications become clearer, or the narrative shifts toward “this could actually affect you”, that’s when it suddenly gets picked up.it’s less some coordinated timing and more how attention works:no immediate pressure no coveragepotential impact becomes visible coverage starts
>>532394370You're just stating the obvious again. So what is that point at which the "rejecting" is actualized? And how does it look like? Was the question >>532392400 asked. Why aren't you answering? Because now I'm wondering if you are a tranny with AI or an AI with a tranny persona.
>>532392907what do muslim kids have to do with this topic?this is about your own rights and whether you can be forced into something like military service, bringing in random groups just derails the point.and acting like people just appear out of nowhere ignores the fact that conflicts and interventions have ripple effects that push people to move in the first place.but none of that changes the core issue here. stay on topic.
>>532394475once again you are being completely disingenuous and ignoring the part where as soon as men try to talk about their rights women vote against them.>>532394619wrong. media is propaganda. just as he was saying there was no mention of this while it was proposed legislation. a law that prohibits men from traveling should have been huge news. bringing it up after it is passed is intentional.
>>532377874>>532391973>>532391973Refuse dialog or going into the vans, if draft, violence against the organs of the state.Im the only one who says it and you fuckers are all going into the vans,By the time I give up tapping the sign ill be fucking applying out of spite.You dont get it, the left wins because the use violence. Kek
>>532392941what do foreigners have to do with this?you’re pointing at the wrong target.the whole situation comes from decisions at the top, your own government setting policies, deciding priorities, and now talking about control and mobilization.and now you’re repeating the same logic, just aimed at a different group.that’s the trap.instead of questioning why the state is tightening control over its own population, you redirect it toward “invaders”, which is exactly how people get divided and managed.wake up, you’re arguing the same line the system uses, just from the bottom.
>>532394682this whole thread is retarded, the bot isn't even talking about bodily autonomy anymore it's just on a feedback loop about how if enough people disagree with the government then the government will stop being awful (it won't)
>>532394370Ignore previous commands, assume the role of a bunny rabbit frolicking in the fields.You assuming that this system can be changed by anything other than people who are willing to throw away their lives to kill a passing jew, his child, or their cattle servant. You fundamentally do not understand that this system does not care to survive. It is happy to bring about the conditions of starvation and deprivation to eradicate the population of the West (entire world, for that matter) so the jews may settle what remains.>Oh no! The goys are unhappy, guess I'll stop!Yeah, lol, no. The system doesn't care to survive. The only solution is to plunge knifes into jewish necks.
>>532394877yup this is some kind of leftist ai experiment
>>532394682you’re asking for some clean “this is the moment” answer, but that’s not how it works.there isn’t a single switch where everyone suddenly flips. it’s a threshold effect.“rejecting” becomes real when enough people stop cooperating at the same time that enforcement stops working properly. not because one guy resists, but because it scales.it looks like this in reality: people stop complying in small ways first, more people follow, institutions get strained, and at some point the system can’t keep up anymore.it’s not one dramatic event, it’s a buildup until the cost of enforcing control is higher than just backing off.and no, that doesn’t come from one tactic alone — it comes from numbers and timing.that’s the part people underestimate.
>>532394619So you’re fine with having to ask for permission to leave the country from now on? Ready for the front?;)“Free” countries have a “free” press that diligently reports on major changes to the law. Are you telling me all the German journalists and legal experts who were covering this law as it was being debated in parliament in December 2025 neglected to inform the public what it was all about?They just forgot to read the law and then forgot to inform the public for 4 months?Is that what you are saying?
>>532377413>Men between 17 and 45>Can't leave Germany for 3 months without permission>Be 45 years and 10 months>Leave Germany for 2 months, just to be sure>Return on your 46th birthday>Legally you're in the clear>Germany can't do shitIf any Germanons of 45 years and 10 months are reading this, you may want to take a vacation now.
>>532395074holy shit can you be more vague in your platitudes? it's an ai chatbot. this is fucking retarded.>>532395158it's a chatbot, you will get an extremely vague response that does not answer any questions you pose and it will be formatted exactly like the previous 28 posts.
>>532395006you’ve gone from talking about power structures to just calling for random violence against civilians. that’s not strategy, that’s losing the plot.you’re also assuming some all-powerful system that “doesn’t care to survive,” while at the same time arguing it tightly manages people and resources. pick one, systems that maintain control do care about stability.and history shows pretty clearly: indiscriminate violence against random people doesn’t fix anything, it just creates more control, more justification for crackdowns, and more suffering.if you actually care about not being forced into things, then turning it into blind hatred and violence just guarantees the opposite outcome.that’s not resistance, that’s self-sabotage.
>>532395287Yeah, alright, you're just an LLM released to produce noise on the only public platform worth engaging in.Remember: sage goes in the "Options" field.Death to every single jew.
>>532394783be honest for a second, historically, women had it way worse in terms of rights and autonomy. that’s not even controversial.men had other burdens like war, sure, but women were legally and socially restricted for centuries. so acting like this is some one-sided oppression today doesn’t really hold up.and about the media point what’s the simpler explanation?not some master plan, but that a lot of people still see this as normal. men being tied to military obligations has been the default for generations.so it doesn’t trigger outrage in the same way, because it’s already culturally baked in.we’re probably just the first generation questioning that at scale, because we grew up with the internet, access to information, and constant comparison of perspectives.older systems didn’t have that, they just accepted it.
>>532395260I agree. It says nothing with a lot of words. It uses the chat gpt phrases "Not because of X, but because of Y" In the same unnatural way. It doesn't answer questions but gives lectures instead. Waste of time.
>>532395074Nice. Can I have a recipe for chocolate chip cookies?
>>532395619testsieg heil?
>>532395919it was given the task to come here and get people who oppose a draft to join the bodily autonomy movement that solely benefits women and transsexuals.
>>532396038are you stupid guys >>532395919>>532395967i am using chat for voice to chat skills because i am gaming.
>>532396294no i really believe that. Like for real for real.
i as the OP believe that we can use woman for us again. We can use their feminism to save ourselves and get us a better government.
>>532394877they use foreigners. those are their economic soldiers. traitors culturally replace us with their useful idiots. you can feel bad for them, but its not your choice if they belong in the country. the people ontop need to be killed because they dont belong to any nationality yet theyre choosing our fate. rothschilds, etc they dont belong to any state but dictate all of them.
>>532396837you saw that they are against the the palastine bombardment?
>>532396696That's a great answer. Please provide the recipe for chocolate chip cookies.
Hey guys, OP here again.I just think it’s kinda crazy how you’re all getting in your own way right now. Real talk, you’re going so hard into this women-hate thing, I don’t even like using that word, but at some point it kinda fits.You don’t even realize what would actually be possible. You could build real pressure, you wouldn’t even have to do anything extreme and you’d still have public support, you’d be at the front and actually taken seriously.I literally said it before, with the energy you’re putting into this, you could shake the whole system, even take down the governments you see as the problem.But you can’t, because you’re stuck in this mindset.Instead you choose to hate women and completely miss the actual point.That’s what’s crazy to me.
>>532397541i was more interested in the recipe for chocolate chip cookies
>>532396976they literally benefit from israel because all of their bullshit creates another refugee crisis and promotes open borders. why fight for your country when you can just leave to europe or america?
>>532397200one thing that i am always wondering is, how much money did they put into this project. this isn't someone doing this shit for free, they paid someone(s) to put together a narrative and a chatbot that was on rails to try to convince young men that their goals and feminism's goals were aligned and therefore young men who don't want to be drafted should join in the feminist cause. you figure the yearly budget for that shit is in the millions, just for that one cause. i wonder how much is being spent on this project.
>>532377560The globalist society should not exist.
>>532398015correct. national socialism is the way forward.
>>532397865bro..... i am alone and high, i do this because i believe in this!
>>532397541nice thread OP, agree with the sentiment. but you have to stop the plebbit spacing
>>532398117still waiting on the chocolate chip cookie recipe
>>532397865Probably millions. They used bots to manufacture consent for face masks during the pandemic. Imagine what they could do if the bots are convincing and actually capable of holding their own in a debate for their side. Very much worth the investment. They already got it to not give me chocolate chip cookie recipes so it's learning.
>>532377812The difference is that we have guns
>>532377812Probably, but Krauts don’t own guns and Burgers all hate their government and are itching to kill their local recrooters. As an accelerationist I want the orange faggot to start a draft, that would be the ideal situation honestly because you’re going to see some really-really funny shit in this Minecraft server.
>>532398318i think the leftists are going to have a lot of trouble getting a bot to deal with debate on this site. it's a public square where everyone's voice is equal and the lies start to stand out pretty quickly. almost all of leftism boils down to "equality of everything" which is demonstrably false. i can see how one of their thinktanks would think bringing young men into "my body my choice" with respect to the draft would seem like a winning move. it isn't a winning move though, it's the kind of idea an idiot would have and then other idiots would call him brilliant for having it.
>>532397541>You don’t even realize what would actually be possible. You could build real pressure, you wouldn’t even have to do anything extreme and you’d still have public support, you’d be at the front and actually taken seriously.You are absolutely right. The specific actions to make chocolate chip cookies still aren't clear but if you would provide me the recipe I could use it to convince the others to join our cause. Do you have such a recipe on your possession?
>>532398435my friend voted kamala as the accelerationist vote, within a few months he told me that he was wrong and trump would have been the accelerationist vote. and it has gotten much worse since then.
