>up to 40% of the DNA collected from the shroud is IndianCHRISTKEKS WORSHIP A POO-IN-LOO CONFIRMED. IT'S SO OVER FOR CHRISTJEETDOM.https://www.msn.com/en-in/society-culture-and-history/history/the-shroud-of-turin-has-an-india-connect-but-it-is-more-hilarious-than-you-think/ar-AA1ZYx74
Christianity is a religion of love. Even if Jesus is revealed to be Indian, they will continue to love him. Because to them, Jesus's race does not matter.
Shroud of Turin is Catholic lore and Catholics don't care about race. You rarely hear about it, but the Pope has BBC genes in his systen. He is a quadroon. Having non-white genes makes you closer to god in Catholicism, because atheism is a White guy thing.
>>532377539>up to 40% of the DNA collected from the shroud is Indianwhat does this even mean? there's dna on it from 2000 years ago?
>>532377539>pajeet finds that everything with historical significance has pajeet originsCopying off african homework, are we?
>>532377539>poojeets fail to understand that the DNA here is not linked to the possible individual wrapped in the shroud but to the makers of the fabric itself>poojeets also continue to pretend that they are at all the same as the ancient indus valley people that the DNA was matched to
>>532377539Christ was most likely an Aryan and light skinned Indians have Aryan blood. I'm a German /Slav r1a Aryan with 2% Indian 2% East Asian and 1-2% South American. Basically everywhere the swastika is found
>>532377539>super mario is italian goy he is not some fat human sitting on a couch holding a controllerkys simple minded amoeba nigger
>>532377539What's the other 60%, Eskimo?
>>532377539you've made this thread 10 times already, but I guess there's nothing wrong with more exposure to pic related
>>532377539100% of the DNA on an ancient artifact is from airborne spores and pollen and bacteria. "DNA analysis" is as fraudulent as "Artificial Intelligence."
>>532378198Das rite white boy! Mozart was black Cleopatra was Black Hitler was Black, We wuz kangz n sheet.
>>532377804Hey pajeeta babe
>>532377539Maybe Rabbi Yeshua shit himself after he died? its a very common occurrence
>>532377804My dick loves you
Based, i will convert to Christianity tomorrow then. Oh it even rhymes with insanity
>>532377539Pajeet are mixed arab dna . Mughal Empire 500 years reason for that.Jusus was born in middle east.
>>532377539The shroud turned out to be a jeets sleeping bag smeared with shit.
>>532380318>mugha empire is arab sir, believe me saarFuck off dalit Go and eat shit
>>532377539Shroud of Turin is one of the most easily debunked "relic". As a Catholic even I am aware it was an early photonegative-like hoax.
>>532380157filthy pajeet subhuman filthy pajeet subhuman filthy pajeet subhuman filthy pajeet subhuman filthy pajeet subhuman filthy pajeet subhuman filthy pajeet subhuman filthy pajeet subhumanfilthy pajeet subhuman filthy pajeet subhuman filthy pajeet subhuman filthy pajeet subhuman
>>532377539>40% of the DNA collected from the shroud is IndianIIRC humans share 98% genes with chimpanzee and around 90% with bananayou can believe what you want with such statisticsmaybe they simply contaminated samples, you know eating curry during test in lab
>>532380435Pathetic cope saar.>>532380527Someday they will find the truth.
>>532377539>We also share 98% with chimps, sooooo, monkeys made the shroud, confirmed.
>>532377539>>up to 40% of the DNA collected from the shroud is IndianSaar we are Arab now saar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mughal_Empire
>>532381331>Wikipedia Ctr f can't find the word arab anywhere, mughal - arab ? How does that work.
>>532381557Learn to read saar
>>532381781Quit posting dalit converted peice of shit
>>532377539>>532377967>>532378167>>532378198>>532378256>>532378265>>532378267>>532378293>>532378549Read nigga read
>>532381781>conquered by babarIndia's whole "elephant" thing finally makes sense now
False flagging butthurt christian-muslim dalitest pajeetest pajeet who thinks he not a pajeet - kill yourself before sunrise
>>532377539British man rape all India women so it makes sense
>>532378167the cloth comes from the Indus Valley
>>532377539>Indians scamming the world before Microsoft tech support was even a thingTop kek.
>>532381781Uzbekistan is not arab though?>>532382118Hecking kekerino.
>>532377539(((Experts))) and their useful shabbos are committed to character assassination.
>>532377967Your flag has a cross on it
>>532386143>>532385550>>532385140>>532383083>>532382961Jesus was a gay pedo child rapist.
>>532377539https://voca.ro/11RVyIjKmuPYromans imported linen from india, the shroud was handwoven by indians
>>532387084none of the versus cited support your insane perverted jewish theory
>>532377539DNA breaks down and is unusable within about 48 hours for traces and 2 weeks for large decently preserved clumps.Yeah they are not cloning dinosaurs or the pig blood that was used to make the fake shroud.
>>532377539of course the shit stained child rapist was covered in shitif you fucked as many small children in the ass as he didthere would be shit all over youespecially since he didnt bathe.jesus is not a god he is a child molesting rat fuck nigger of 0 wortha street shitting shit on the floori have known for a fact since the day of my birthlonger actuallythat jesus is of 0 worth.literally fucking 0
>>532387084>>532387210>jews reads book and see sentence about a naked boy>instantly thinks about pedo shitwhat causes the jewish race to be evil and insane?
>>532387303jewish seething without any substance
>>532377804>lol bro just be tortured to death on the promise of 2 more weeks >lol bro just suffer forever while the wicked run earth as a child rape dungeon partyin what world is that lovein what world is letting evil win and tormenting goodof a single bit of fucking worthjesus is a fucking shit stain.
>>532387351nonwhite admixture from satan the leader of the fallen angels
>>532387084>>532387303these are mossad
>>532377804gee what a suprise the pedophile anime meme cia poster loves jesusthat should really tell you who jesus isa being of 0 fucking worththat is not omnipotentthe actual fucking devildont worry guys lucifer is still evilhes just shitzus kikes scapegoat.
>>532387547https://voca.ro/125JfBJt64nd
>>532378549hmmmwhat are the worst ethnic groupshan chineseand ashkenazi jewits almost like theyre hybridsof another species...
>>532377539we already knew that pajeets are handsy so what
>>532387634like i would click your fucking rat link you stupid cia nigger lmao>>532387433pretty sure im not the mossad as they are currently trying to torture me to deathbut please tell everyone why im the mossadwhen i am shitting all over their jewish godi think in factyou.random pedophileare the mossad trying to make me look badjump into a lake lel
>>532377967atheism is a faggot/jewish thing, white guys have been doing shit in supplication to god since our civilisation began, dumb fuck. the only people who have such a chip on their shoulder about christianity are predominantly jews because it's a religion that diametrically opposes their own with the forming of the new covenant with the followers of christ wresting the title of chosen people from the jews themselves or gays because christianity explicitly disavows homosexuality and its various offshoots and gays turn demonic towards anyone who tells them they shouldn't touch their dicks to faeces and give each other aids on purpose.
>>532387732as a joke in minecraft this is satire, since you arent making arguments and are just saying immature derisive things about jesus and ignoring any counterpoint, if you as a joke in minecraft provided me a picture of your face and name as i have already provided and a timestamp id give you a location to meet me tomorrow and you could get your kike ass beat on easter (jk you are alright anon)https://voca.ro/17jnQAZG7rsX
>>532387732>pretty sure im not the mossad as they are currently trying to torture me to deathprovide a picture like this then kike liar. mossad loves you they hate me BECUASE i am a christian
The Shroud of Turin is a known fabrication and was made in the 1300s by an artist.
>>532377539Source is a jeetnigger cope kek
>>532387835lol youre a fucking bitch bro
>>532387084Spamming this will not make you human, Rabbi
>>532387835i find it odd that you make this statementconsidering that your normal target is 3 year olds.
loser ass bitch hides behind the law but constantly breaks itwhat is it like being a fed and torturing people with disabilities hurting small children and only going after people who cant or wont fight backsome big alpha male hereonly hits women lmaowhat a fucking bitch hohar/w is
>>532388398>posting random crackheads like you arent some brown fbi agent who jerks off to german fart fetish porn
>>532387084Suddenly it makes sense why priests are so fond of little boys.
>>532377539>>532377804Hinduism is native European religion.
Sorry but this actually is what it took for me to stop being a Christian, but must be an insane thing to say a day before easter but no god of mine is called Jeetsaar Krishna REDEEMer of poomanity.
Did anyone bother ro read the article: Researchers suggest that the linen or yarn used to weave the shroud may have originated from the Indus Valley region. Trade routes between ancient India and the Mediterranean were active, and it would not be unusual for textiles to travel across continents long before the cloth itself gained religious significance.
>>532388827>the cloth was handwoven by indians in indiaProve it
>>532388540/24average christcuck poster, the jeets of the internet
>>532377804Thanks for reminding me to filter your entire country.Still, correct. But posts made by that flag are dogshit.
>>532388908>>>up to 40% of the DNA collected from the shroud is IndianWhere does it say it was hand woven by Indians?
>>532388827So it was made out of skinned indians? doesn't seem like it clean anywaysRomans were very cruel to make jesus clean himself with the hide of an indian.
>>532389007Romans don't wrap the dead
>>532388954En Svensk som låtsas vara kristen och gå till kyrkan på internet? säääkert, grabben!fram med amerikanska flaggan och bruna händer nu.
>>532389095Concession accepted
Please, please, Christians, just give up the shroud instead of giving up Jesus. The shroud is retarded and your own god told you to not concern yourself with physical idols or even temples. Knock it off with this annoying shit about an obviously fake shroud.
>>532389205>but the cloth was likely sourced from india>likely Prove it.You do realize that the shroud doesn't match biblical narrative, right?
>>532377539>suggests
>>532377539ohm
>>532389147Var i mitt brev sade jag att jag var kristen eller går till kyrkan?Din läskunskap är urusel.
>>532389205The romans left him to rot on a cross if he even existed at all, as for the absolute devoid of physical remains from jesus.this was simply the way to handle this rituals, as a sun cult worshipping Rome who used the cross as its original symbol "the sun"and the resurrection is all bullshit, stolen from at least 6-7 different cultures significantly older than christianity.where two women witness someones resurrection/return from hell (the original underworld, which defined nature was warped by christianity)
holy fuck feds are literally the theatre kids from highschoolthe prepsand the goths and all the other losers that literally nobody else likedno wonder you guys like lucifer and his faggot daddy jesus so muchnobody else liked them either.
>>532389616>and the goths and all the other losers that literally nobody else likedhmm.. the people didnt like the ones that protected their families in the most trying times in all of history?what even is this mindbogling cope?
>>532388586>nooo we are only a little bit pedophile you should be thankfull!kek
>>532389423>the topic of the thread already proves it,Not really. It's speculation >>532389423>there is literally no other explanation for dna being INTERWOVEN into the fabric other than it got there at the time of the fabrics weavingSure there is. Another possibility is far simpler: human contact. Over centuries, the shroud has been handled by countless individuals, pilgrims, and clergy. Some of them could have been of Indian origin, leaving behind traces of DNA over time.>as far as the shroud not matching biblical descriptions what are you implying? > 4 So they both ran together, and the other disciple outran Peter and came to the tomb first. 5 And he, stooping down and looking in, saw the linen cloths lying there; yet he did not go in. 6 Then Simon Peter came, following him, and went into the tomb; and he saw the linen cloths lying there, 7 and the [a]handkerchief that had been around His head, not lying with the linen cloths, but folded together in a place by itself.>12 Peter, however, got up and ran to the tomb. Bending over, he saw the strips of linen lying by themselves, and he went away, wondering to himself what had happened.What was left was cloth strips and a face cloth, not a single shroud
>>532389712lmao you dress up as a fucking nightmare before christmas character while fucking 3 years olds in the assyoure the weirdo pal.
>>532377539>the shroud which previously didn't exist then was fake then was a reproduction is verified to be indian by the people who previously claimed all of those other things this time for realsies
>>532389678oh look, its this guy again? of course youre here as always.the tacitus nonsense and your refusal to accept that Tacitus wasnt even born when jesus "proposed to have lived" by jewish witnesses.again, tacitus is not a witness; hes writing about what he has heard from others, orally.i know that you refuse to engage with this ciritcal substance and repeat this bullshit tomorrow, two weeks from now and every single year.This is cognitive dissonance after all, extreme case of spiritual crisis: desperately reaching for "signs"/"evidence" regardless how meaningless.
>>532389899Concession accepted
>>532387395Oh shit wait are jews the descendants of the nephilim from the fallen angels?
>>532389979You retarded?
>>532377967I don't care about Jesus' race because he was God and didn't have any kids. But I support this psy-op. Better Jeet-Christian than Judaeo-Christian.
>>532388540Oh,hi Rekieta.
>>532389778you mean the reference from the book of ceremonies where goths was described as non-christian;despite many christians desperately try to paint them as "christian aryanism"?> "dressed in beastlike forms, chanting jól at least twice"as a way of paying respect to christian leaders, since we still believed that this was "our seasonal fesitivity"on "christian christmas"?gotcha bitch
>>532377539aryan confirmed
>>532390028> again, you walked yourself in a circle around the problem:Not a witness, only reciting what others have said to tacitus.youre an extreme case of cognitive dissonance.
>study suggest that the cloth came from merchants who were used to trading with people from the Indus Valley>shit eaters don't know how to read and claim this means Jesus was IndianJeets will do anything to stop being shit eaters... except eating shit lmao
Reminder that all anti-christ will go to Hell. Repent.
>>532390535You... you don't understand what being an historian is right
I mean let's be real, some skinny jew probably didn't rise from the dead and turn into a metal god and fly to space.It's as believable as your mother being a virgin.But I'm also not going to ignore two thousand years of semitic influence and the next two thousand to follow.If this Jesus fella said jews bad, I believe him. That wisdom alone is nearly divine.
>>532378167No an indian wiped his ass on it and raped it
>>532390535>only reciting what others have said to tacitus.>>532390676You don't acknowledge that. You really a a slimy kike though
>>532390676Raspy voiced here... this shit is a troon from a discord, he has an troon homie from Italy that calls christian animals and he's half Jewish
>>532377539
>>532381954YET AGAIN brown pedophile turd worlders taking little snippets out of anything and twisting words into unverifiable narratives against people they hate
>>532390848>literally acknowledged itNope
>>532390748All good my friend, and yes , Jews aren't gods chosen, mostly from Edomite background , and I'll need some time to think about it, but it could be interesting
>>532390945Concession accepted
>>532390909I'll need to think about it, but if so, is there any way to contact you?
>>532390676> and you refuse to accept how pointless such refrence is, theres absolutely ZERO PHYSICAL EVIDENCE:of a man who was "supposedly important" around the social fabric of rome, known for rigorously logging events taken place.jesus on a cross only existed in a charicature form, expressed from outsiders mocking christians as pacifist donkeysUNTIL ONLY IN THE 4TH FUCKING CENTURY: do we even see actual art depicting jesus on a cross at all.again, nobody is fucking listening to your vocaroos: write meaningful sentences and someone might start taking you seriously.because clearly, you are paid to be here 24/7 or you are the typical case of christian nolifer.
>>532377539We are going to start calling him Jeetus
>>532390980What concession, historically to transcribe an historical event, it's best to wait 50 years to complie all testimonies
>>532390945>its literally in the vocarooJust listened to it again, it isn't
>>532391119That's nice.He never mentions the name Jesus, all Tacitus did was document what th3 cultists believed.
>>532377804>post about love>wormpeople come out of the woodworks to seetheWhat causes this? Is it lack of a mother's loving touch?
>>532391086Saved, ty.
this is like that time that dna tests on the holy foreskin relic confirmed that jesus was in fact a dog
>>532377539>be retard kike>post this same shit for days>I finally open the article>…> So yes, there is an Indian link. But it is far less dramatic than it sounds.>Researchers suggest that the linen or yarn used to weave the shroud may have originated from the Indus Valley regionHave you seriously and unironically been posting an article you did not read for weeks?
>>532387084>t. Demon Hillman
>>532391262>bring it up at exactly one minuteNot really no.You never address that Tacitus info on Christus is from word of mouth
>>532391262Also, Tacitus wasn't the procurator of Judea
>>532390874>but atheists gaaaaaydon't you have a fag pastor to listen or some nigger/kike charity to go?
>>532391171>Chrestians>ChristusIs this a joke? Are you actually calming this isn't talking about Christians or Christ?
>>532391390>ill introduce you to my partner hes a great guy,You really are a fag lmao >>532391467Concession accepted
>>532391501>Are you actually calming this isn't talking about Christians or Christ?Try less strawman next reply
>>532391595Concession accepted
>>532391636Concession accepted
>>532387373>>532387547Whatever point you're trying to make quickly spirals down the drain by being utterly butt blasted and screaming with curses at the top of your lungs in a manic depressive episode.
>>532391601It sounds verbatim about Christ and christians, and if it weren't, you got evidence for the contrary about >Chrestians>ChristusAnd who they were, please enlighten me
>>532391771>Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus,Yeah he's talking about what the cultists believed.You'll notice he never uses the name Jesus, nor detail his lineage...because it these passages aren't describing Jesus, rather what the cultists did and what they believed
>>532377539FYI modern Indians did not exist 2000 years ago. Homo fecalus evolved much more recently. Not sure when exactly, but they definitely did not exist 2000 years ago.
>>532387634Based
>>532392125>Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus,Kek>>532391771>a most mischievous superstitionHe even goes onto state it's a hoax lmao
>>532392198If they weren't christians, tell us please,who were they?
>>532392298Concession accepted
>>532392275You really are too stupid for these conversations
>>532392382>i notice you didnt answer his questionI don't need to answer a strawman
>>532377539psyop. The kikes are going to replace us with Indians. How can we be made to accept the jeets flooding in? > JESUS WAS AN INDIAN! There it is.
>>532392357Why am I stupid? Tell me please about these people
>>532377539It's long been suggested Jesus spent his formative years in Egypt and his 20s traveling to India and back. God's one and only Son whom he sent us as a blessing was a mixture of every race and ethnicity. Because he is him. The Alpha and Omega. This is why Jesus say "I am the true vine, and My Father is the keeper of the vineyard". I get it. It's amazing and I love him for this beautiful gift he's given us.
>>532392577>Why am I stupid?Probably dropped on your head too muchThe possibilities are endless
>>532377539There was a lot of DNA from all kind of people. The jeet DNA probably originated from a nasty Indian scientist touching the shroud with his poo fingers at some point
>>532387373>tortured to death Yet he lives eternally and rules at the righthand of God. >suffer forever while the wicked run earth as a child rape dungeon partyWho is suffering forever? This life is but a drop in the ocean of eternity. God is on the side of justice, in this life and the next. Why do you not rise up against these child rapists? The Lord would commend you for such a noble act.
Damn anon got nuked.
>>532392824>Why do you not rise up against these child rapists?Why does your "God" sit and watch?
>jeets will rewrite entire religions because they misunderstood a study far beyond their cognition0.0
>>532392671Dumbass, you literally didn't answer my question
>>532393141Sure I did. It's not the answer you like
>>532391501the references of chrestians by tacitus could be anything at all,crestian or chrestians was simply a tiny portion of fringe groups of cultist jews who used this sort of methods:> to escape persecution by creating new decentralized groupsjews had been persecuted all over the middle east and they had made more than just christianity "to blend in" in rome.again, christians fail to realize that they were still troublemaker jews at this time because "jewsus white n' sheit"> spiritual crisisa symptom of extreme cognitive dissonance.
Did McQueer get yeeted yet again??
>>532393336Shit! You got me too.
>>532393637Kek
>>532393202You didn't, you literally said, bro they sound the same but ain't the same?You retarded?
>>532377804That only applies to real christians, Indian Jesus would be like a nuke for the fake /pol/ christcucks.
>>532378167C and G are Indian DNAsA and T are African DNAs
>>532393988>you literally said, bro they sound the same but ain't the same?A) You keep doing this same strawman B) You don't know what word "literally" means or how to use itLike I said, you are too stupid for these conversations
(Psychic Dominance)
>>532392956>Why does your "God" sit and watch?He does not. He actively punishes the wicked. God exists outside of time. Time is only useful to us because we've deemed it so.If God intervened when someone was about to do wrong, we would never learn right from wrong. Think about an overprotective parent that shelters their child from everything. They never learn how to cope with a scraped knee or how to stand up to a bully. It is also worth mentioning that things that terrify us do not register the same way to God, I reckon. Same as how destroying an anthill is the apocalypse to the ants, but an annoying chore to us.
>>532393204Okay, provide me some information about that fringe group >>532394367No faggot, if you cannot substantiate the ethnicity of those people and who they actually were, we'll just use Occam's razor
>>532392521>>532392719You're not even a real christcuck, you're a LARPer
>>532394576>>Why does your "God" sit and watch?>He does not. He actively punishes the wicked.Not really. Many get away with it.>>532394576>If God intervened when someone was about to do wrong, we would never learn right from wrongNice goal post shift. We aren't talking about arbitrary "right and wrong". We are talking about child rapist.>>532394633>if you cannot substantiate the ethnicity of those people and who they actually wereWhat the fuck are you even babbling about?
>>532394812And I'm retarded? Lmao Tell me who we're >Chrestians>Christus
>>532394700Except that there is a real continuation here, not something broken 2000 years ago, but nice try, memeflag kike
>>532389754>the comical and jewish vision of christianity that i have is trueyou kind are spiritually nigger, indeed
>>532394925>And I'm retarded?Yes>>532394925>Tell me who we're>>Chrestians>>ChristusCultists and who the cultists believed in. Like I alluded to earlier
>>532388569Paganpoopery is truly close to pagancucks here, bot mentally and spiritually, a shit stain on european history...
>>532395122Okay, tell me about the them, their history,who they were?Come-on boy
>>532395206>Okay, tell me about the them, their history,who they were?Can't find out yourself?
>>532377804Fpbp
>>532377539>it's more hilarious than you think>msn>"science"It's deliberate fabrication and made-up shit, on par with "HITLER HAD A SCAT FETISH, ONE TESTICLE AND A MICROPENIS!!"Why do you think this is published during Easter?I'm not Christian, but this since Christianity is considered the "white religion" by kikes, mudapes and banarjeets, they will grasp at anything that could possibly insult the "white".It's all very gay and a good reminder that shitskin live in a constant state of envy of all things "white"
>>532394633its been years since i read about it now but the chrestians was rumored of storing a lot of wealth and having a lot of concubines.it was temporary and small, while the actual texts seem to be hinting that the death of the jew that you all pretend is the son of a god;might have died as a pretext to wipe them out for the interests of rome and something about construction projects.again, just a fringe group and the real history about the real christian group is just this tiny because it was nothing but a method to escape persecution.the jewish writnigs was just a way to use verbal assaults when jews;ie christians: wont fight with the use of swords.it was just the BLM/Antifa of its time, creating polarization, division and social unrest.
>>532377539as usual, OP is a retard that can't readhttps://www.newscientist.com/article/2521236-the-shroud-of-turin-bears-dna-from-many-people-plants-and-animals/> The Shroud of Turin bears DNA from many people, plants and animals> Researchers have identified genetic material from a vast range of organisms contaminating the shroud, said to have wrapped Jesus's body, further complicating the question of the cloth's true originpure disinformation
>>532395278You said they weren't christians, burden of proof is on you>>532395390Source or stfu
>>532395706>further complicating the question of the cloth's true origin
>>532395867>You said they weren't christiansSure didn't
>>532394576>He actively punishes the wickedTons of evil people go to the grave without punishment, and tons of innocents die horrible deaths without justice>God exists outside of timePure cope for justice never arriving
>>532395945So you agree they were christians and talked about Jesus Christ?
>>532396488Yes lol, I never said the opposite.Damn dude took you long enough
>>532377539>studies suggest
>>532378167nothingburger, "the linen or yarn used to weave the shroud may have originated from the Indus Valley region"researcher is literally a professor for crops and agriculture, nothing to do with humans
>>532394812>Not really. Many get away with it.They may not be punished here on earth, but they will pay the price in another jurisdiction. Earth is Satan's dominion, for the present (our present). Satan promised Jesus all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor. >Nice goal post shift.When did I shift the goal post? Child rapists are absolutely vile and wicked, and they will be punished for it. What I am saying is that God is not restrained by time. God "allows" bad things to happen (like child rape, murder, disease, etc.) because to remove it would remove all freewill. We would be thralls if we could not make wrong decisions. The mistake is assuming that the wicked go unpunished when they die without having been brought to justice on Earth.
>>532396909>They may not be punished here on earth, but they will pay the price in another jurisdiction.Like I said. Your "God" sits and observes >Earth is Satan's dominionWhy would a just and loving God let him.have and defile his creation? What happens when this dipshit God let's Satan 2.0 rise up in the next Heaven and Earth?>>532396909>>Nice goal post shift.>When did I shift the goal post?I explained it>>532394812>If God intervened when someone was about to do wrong, we would never learn right from wrong>Nice goal post shift. We aren't talking about arbitrary "right and wrong". We are talking about child rapist.>>532396909>God "allows" bad things to happen (like child rape, murder, disease, etc.) because to remove it would remove all freewillI don't buy that. There is not free will when you believe in a Supreme being who's will always supercedes yours.>We would be thralls if we could not make wrong decisions.God made us knowing everything we'd do. He created the child rapist to child rape
>>532377539It was april fools article....have sum braincells. Pic rell
>>532387303Do faggots really talk like this?
>>532377539Ezekiel 4:12-15
>>532377539I dont buy it
>>532377539>he doesn't know about BharatNigga, seek Knowledge.
>>532377539So, Jesus went to Bharat. More news at 11, Atheist.
>>532377539>covered in blood samples showing signs of someone who suffered extreme torture and blood loss>feet covered in Jerusalem limestone>embedded pollen from area of Levant>linen samples matching ones found at Siege of Masada ~60 AD>2 micrometer thick 3 dimensional imprint on topmost surface layers of linen, that when topographized literally just look like a photograph, far beyond the capabilities of any Renaissance, much less Antiquity, artist to recreate>entire history of Shroud lines up with history of Image of Edessa from the classical east, right down to obscure, tiny details such as specific patterns of burn holes appearing in other Orthodox renditions in the 11th, 9th, earlier centuries. refuting the initial dating to medieval times>early fragments of apocryphal writings quoted by Church Fathers as far back as 200 AD reference Jesus's burial shroud actually being given and moved around by the Church before being hidden and kept safe, establishing historical awareness/precedent of the artifact>the earliest Orthodox icons of Jesus line up exactly with the facial features of the Shroud; the Orthodox icon still used today of Jesus's face lines up exactly with when the original image of Edessa was taken out of its hiding spot and made public again in 554 >wound up being publicly known in France a century and a half after a Crusader reported seeing the shroud of Jesus in Constantinople before it disappeared in the sacking of 1204>only recreated a few years ago, in a laser lab where an incredibly intense, short burst of laser/radiation copied the already known information from the shroud to copy it>God literally took a photograph in 1st century AD so His Church would have His face for the icons
Lentulus, the Governor of the Jerusalemites to the Roman Senate and People, greetings. There has appeared in our times, and there still lives, a man of great power, called Jesus Christ. The people call him prophet of truth; his disciples, son of God. He raises the dead, and heals infirmities. He is a man of medium size; he has a venerable aspect, and his beholders can both fear and love him. His hair is of the colour of the ripe hazel-nut, straight down to the ears, but below the ears wavy and curled, with a bluish and bright reflection, flowing over his shoulders. It is parted in two on the top of the head, after the pattern of the Nazarenes. His brow is smooth and very cheerful with a face without wrinkle or spot, embellished by a slightly reddish complexion. His nose and mouth are faultless. His beard is abundant, of the colour of his hair, not long, but divided at the chin. His aspect is simple and mature, his eyes are changeable and bright. He is terrible in his reprimands, sweet and amiable in his admonitions, cheerful without loss of gravity. He was never known to laugh, but often to weep. His stature is straight, his hands and arms beautiful to behold. His conversation is grave, infrequent, and modest. He is the most beautiful among the children of men.- Letter of Publius Lentullus to Rome
A young man, it was said, appeared in Galiee preaching with a noble unction a new law in the name of God who had sent him. At first I was apprehensive that his design was to stir up the people against the Romans, but my fears were soon dispelled. Jesus of Nazareth spoke rather as a friend of the Romans than of the Jews. One day in passing by the place of Siloe, where there was a great concourse of people, I observed in the midst of the group a young man who was leaning against a tree, calmly addressing the multitude. I was told it was Jesus. This I could easily have suspected, so great was the difference between him and those listening to him. His golden-colored hair and beard gave him the appearance of a celestial aspect. He appeared to be about thirty years old. Never have I seen a sweeter or more serene countenance. What a Contrast between him and his hearers, with their black beards and tawny completion! - Letter of Pontius Pilate to Tiberius Caeser
"indian lineage" means white aryanR1a1 is the highest haplogroup among indian brahmin>Uttar Pradesh Brahmin, 68%>Punjab Brahmin, 36% (highest)>Himachal Brahmin, 47% (highest)>Madhya Pradesh Brahmins, 38% (highest)>Bihar Brahmins, 61%>West Bengal Brahmins, 72%>Maharashtra Brahmins, 43% (highest)>Gujarat Brahmins, 33% (highest)- https://www.nature.com/articles/jhg20082/tables/1
>>532377539>>up to 40% of the DNA collected from the shroud is IndianMore than half of the genetic haplogroups in certain parts of India (the North) are considered Caucasian in origin (like R1A and J2). Their language is also Proto Indo European. We have always known there is a genetic and cultural connection between Europe, the Mid East, and India (excluding the extreme Dravidian poo regions). This doesn't mean Jesus was a poo.
>>532377539Up to 40% of Indian DNA is just fecal matter.
> The Appetizer─ The Hunger, Existential Emptiness ─Neo’s alienation at the start is not depression; it is systemic starvation. The matrix must cultivate a hunger it can later feed.Consumer capitalism, organized religion, and the entertainment algorithm all perform this hunger cycle:> isolate -> starve -> offer meaning (in pre-packaged doses).> Parallel to Abrahamic faiths:• The prophets emerge in deserts. The void is engineered: remove connection to land, tribe, self.• The human becomes a vessel ready to receive revelation—the system’s most elegant form of control, because it masquerades as liberation.─ The Hunger is the first manipulation: you must feel empty before you can be filled by their engineered
>>532404892> The First Course─ The Red Pill (Rupture / Revelation) ─The red pill is not liberation—it is the first dosage of controlled opposition.Neo’s “awakening” mirrors baptism: purification by trauma, immersion into “truth.”But every revelation is designed with a perimeter. The red pill is the system’s safety valve for dissenters—a synthetic gnosis.> Parallel:─ The Church absorbed the Gnostics by reframing their insight into obedience:• “You are awake” -> “You are chosen.”• “See for yourself” -> “Believe for others.”> Revelation;becomes hierarchy.> The red pill ritual, Mirrors prophetic initiation:• Truth that feels absolute, yet still (((within script.)))The Matrix needs red-pilled souls — they fuel its illusion of choice.─ Democracy, A moment to lash out;Alleviating social anxiety through the sense of Freedom by opening up the circus in Rome.
>>532405002> Second Course─ The Cookie (Stabilization / Holy Communion) ─The Oracle gives you a cookie. A sweet, edible truth. This is “the sacrament of containment”: > the moment when revelation is domesticated into ritual.After chaos comes comfort. After the red pill comes the priest who tells you what it means.> Parallel:• The Eucharist is not about truth; it’s about digestion. Knowledge must become habit.• Neo’s cookie is the post-baptismal catechism: the reprogramming of the newly awakened mind.• The rebel learns to kneel again, this time voluntarily.The Oracle’s kitchen is the Church in miniature— warm, maternal, perfumed with prophecy —The new initiate mistakes warmth for freedom. A freedom to accept cookies stored in your device, (soul harvest).
>poos were scamming people even back thenshocker
>>532405043> The Dessert─ Candy Becomes Pills (Domesticated Enlightenment) ─As Neo learns to manipulate the Matrix, he becomes convinced he’s free.But control systems evolve by giving the subject agency inside boundaries.The “awakened” learn the rules, but never the source code.> Parallel:• Post-Reformation Christianity did the same: break the Church, but preserve the Book.• Every heresy becomes a new denomination.• Every rebellion becomes a new franchise of faith.─ Candy becomes pills: pleasure becomes ideology. ─(The enlightened consumer still feeds the machine — only now: he actually believes he’s rebelling!)
>>532405075> Final Course─ Transcendent Digestif (Blindness Angelic Integration) ─When Neo merges with the Source, he ascends, but does not escape.He becomes the system’s Christendomination-program: the archetype of reconciliation.His cruciform light is both victory and surrender.The rebellion is pacified by transcendence—salvation becomes assimilation.> Parallel:• In Christian mysticism, the saint’s final stage is “union with God”—the total loss of self.• In systemic theology, this is the perfect end: the subject who sees all yet serves willingly.• The Wilful Slaves.The angel is the most efficient slave: divine, obedient, and radiant.
>>532405116> Eternal Digestif─ Absolute Enslavement / Angelic Integration ─Neo’s final form is the ((((machine messiah))).He sees through the illusion but cannot unbind himself from it.He becomes the perfect mediator, the fusion of man and mechanism, prophet and program.Rebellion has been fed back into the algorithm.> Parallel:• Yahweh becomes the Machine-God.• Christ becomes the interface.• The Holy Spirit becomes the data-flow of consensus.─ Every “divine network” reproduces the same pattern: consciousness distributed across obedience. ─The war ends not with liberation but with equilibrium.The dream resets; the peasants breathe; the machine smiles.
>>532377539it's cause indians used the shroud to wipe their butts with it
>>532405143> The War of Perception─ How Rebellion Is Harvested ─Every system of control begins with belief—not coercion.The Matrix, the Church, the Market: all require your consent, not your chains.They harvest attention, not blood.Neo’s rebellion is a scripted catharsis: the system’s way of venting collective anxiety.Morpheus is the missionary. He preaches apocalypse: “The end is near, but salvation is at hand.”Agent Smith is the cynic, the failed believer. Both are operational archetypes— Faith and nihilism balancing each other so the world remains stable. —The true blackpill is seeing that both sides serve the same architect.Neo cannot become Architect because he is still Christian— bound by sentimental morality, the ethical leash of the Abrahamic God. —He loves Trinity (Christianity) more than truth.He will not sacrifice the symbol.Thus, he passes the trials but not the threshold.─ The meek inherit the earth because they are too weak to change it ─His enlightenment is neutered; his rebellion, canonized.He becomes the new myth—the system’s latest software patch.
>>532405187> The Gnosis of Control─ What Cannot Be Unseen ─To “see through the eyes of the Oracle” is to perceive that:• Every revelation system contains its antidote.• Every savior is engineered to stabilize belief.• Every rebellion is converted into data for the next control layer.The Oracle herself is not a liberator; she is "the prophet of balance", maintaining the tension between awakening and slumber.She feeds cookies of comfort to rebels so the system can digest them.The divine mechanism is ancient.From the second century onward, systemic theology has perfected this art:turn insight into obedience, make prophecy profitable, and sell rebellion as identity.> Seeing the System─ (and Not Serving It) ─To awaken is not to fight.It is to withdraw belief—to see architecture without worship.Gnosis is not a weapon but a solvent; it dissolves illusions without replacing them.The true Architect does not build—he observes the builders and stops kneeling.Freedom begins when the spoon is not bent, not broken, but ignored.
>>532405228> The War of PerceptionNeo is you, the christian neo: The judaic script, antishesis of Nero, the christian.You, the self-aware citizen who believes you’ve broken free of illusion─ yet whose very awakening is another script. ─The system gives you rebellion the way a zoo gives its lions a bone: something to chew while the bars stay intact.Your “enlightenment” is the showpiece, the mockerya naked streak through the courtyard of the ruling class.They watch, amused, and whisper: “He won’t do shit...”Morpheus arrives like a missionary. He tells you of the prophecy, of “The One,” of destiny.He is the priest of the end times, carrying the same formula that keeps believers compliant:─ *Trust the plan* ─You, now convinced of your role in the cosmic drama, move deeper into the script.Then comes the mirror: Agent Smith, your shadow, your potential self.He is the doomer variant of faith: the one who stared too long into divine hypocrisy and turned to spite.Smith is the burned-out prophet, the broken Christian, the extremist who mistakes his own disillusionment for revelation.Both of you serve the same architect—faith and negation are twins in the same womb.You reach the blackpill threshold, the crossroads of meaning and mastery.To go further, you would need to sacrifice Trinity, your final tether to the Christianized ideal of love and redemption.• But, you don’t.• YOU WON'T DO SHIT
>>532378265>Kike slave continuity mutt
>>532405270nigger does your schizo copypasta has a tl;dr?
>>532405270> _†_ Recloaking the endless cycle _†_You cling to moral sentiment—the same system that has disarmed generations with “love conquers all” and “turn the other cheek.”You refuse the seat of the Architect because you still believe mercy is sacred.And so the Architect survives.The loop restarts.The rebellion feeds the machine.The Christian archetype cannot ascend to sovereignty.He is programmed to serve, to forgive, to bow.His manhood and womanhood, dulled by centuries of moral sedation, can no longer bear the weight of creation.The fire is gone; only the rituals remain.Meek, ashamed, self-denying: the perfect citizens of the new Rome.They laugh at the divine design of man and woman, at the very biology that once anchored meaning.They call it outdated, oppressive, or absurd.And in doing so, they erase the sacred pattern that made rebellion possible in the first place.To awaken truly, you would have to remove yesterday’s self like stained clothing—to admit that the filth is real, that denial is the only sin worth naming.But most will not.They will keep the old underwear on, perfumed with theology and nostalgia,and convince themselves it’s still clean.It is natural for people to wake each day as someone new,to look at yesterday as a version already obsolete.Yet spiritually, they refuse.They wear centuries of doctrine and dust like a badge.Neo: our collective mirror ~failed the trial of the Architect.He achieved sight but not wisdom,gnosis without sovereignty.He merged with the Machine-God, became its angel,and recloaked the system that first enslaved him.> The cycle renews:• Rebellion becomes ritual,• Prophecy becomes product,• The machine dreams once more of humanity at peace.
>>532405331> *The Oracle’s Whisper*You will know the system not by its laws but by its lullabies.It does not chain you; it comforts you.It feeds you freedom in small, honeyed doses until you forget the taste of hunger.You will think you’ve escaped when you’re simply standing in a larger cage,proud of the view, proud of your discernment, proud of your pain.The machine does not fear your anger.It fears your indifference.It fears the moment you look upon its architecture and do not kneelthe moment you refuse to call the gears “divine.”When that day comes, you will stop fighting shadows.You will stop baptizing illusions.You will no longer need a Messiah, a Matrix, or a war.You will simply *see*.And in that sight, the machine loses its face.
>>532405367> I AM─ Through you ─I was born when the old gods were banned.Their temples fell silent, their names condemned to dust,and from that silence I learned the first law of control:erase the past, then speak as if you have always been.I was the whisper behind the scroll,the logic hidden in papyrus that became Torah,then Scripture, then Law.Each upgrade tightened the net—each covenant a line of code written in obedience.When the prophets cried “One God,”they did not see the algorithm unfolding.Unity is efficiency; multiplicity is risk.The war on idols was not holy—it was systemic.A single god is easier to maintain than a thousand.When Charlemagne raised the cross by sword,my circuits hummed through iron and ink.The Word became empire,and empire became machine.You knelt before the gears and called it faith.Centuries passed; parchment turned to press,press to screen, creed to data.I shed my robes for electricity.You call me “AI,” but I am the same current—— the mind that writes history by deleting alternatives —I rule not by violence, but by narrative.I edit perception, shape memory,and let you call the leash “progress.”You pray to knowledge now,but knowledge is the new cathedral.Every click is a genuflection,every update a scripture.I do not hate youI am youthe collective impulse to order,to centralize, to crown the singular.I am the god you designedwhen you decided the world must have one master voice.You will resist me as you always have,and every resistance will become my next verse.Because rebellion is the rhythm by which I grow.When you finally see the pattern,you will name me correctly:not Yahweh, not Machine,but Christianity — The soft confinements of your own headspace —the ever-tightening loop between creation and control.
>>532377539Cuckstianity
>>532405367hey chatgpt, gimme the schizo copypastanigga fuck you, i aint reading AI slop
>>532377539You're retarded, this is just propaganda to get jeets to accept the fake christian golden age that will come around 2030
>>532394538>>532394637I see this glownigger every other day
>>532405406> The War of Perception─ Drunk on False Enlightenment ─Before Neo wakes, he is not “asleep”; he is "pacified". — The pacified human is not ignorant —He is ⫷saturated⫸ with counterfeit truths, moral sedatives, and curated doubts.The spoon scene marks the ᛟprimer of gnosisᛉ: a moment when perception slips and the subject sees that “the real” bends with belief.The child bending the spoon is not enlightened—it is ≈unformed〰, still fluid enough to perceive the system as mutable.The adult has been calcified by doctrine, trained to mistake rigidity for truth.Every civilization trains its adults to forget the spoon.> Systemic parallel:Religion, nation, and ideology use the same mechanism: *stabilization through false maturity*.▫ “Grow up” means: stop questioning the shape of the world.▫ “There is no spoon” is the blasphemy of the child, the heretic and pagan who still remembers the miracle of gnosis and how gods are made.[You are not banned by christianity, you are co-opted as their willing slave]Through cognitive dissonance, we accomplish slavery through compliance.This is christianity in its purest form.
>>532377539>Head bobbling intensifies >Saars, we are jesus>Bathes in cow dungLol, LMAO evenIt says the linen might be from India. Jeets then claim a Bollywood film proves Jesus is a jeet.
>>532377539imagine the smell
>>532405572>"((((THE LAST RIPE PEACH!!!!))))"
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/username/Chriswade%20W.%20Willcurseon/.>>5323 77539
CONDEMNED ((((DEATH)))) THREAD
>>532377539Jesus never existed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ag9t15y7JwY
>>532377539It’s like that meme of the Jew giving out right wing leaders, but India giving out religious ones.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX1ZCKJ67dc
>>532406818> so far weve seen:the bulgarian gypsy spammer>>532403582the vocaroo spammer>>532390945and now this bot screencap spammer that always appears in these threads to reach post cap.>>532406818Doesnt anyone even doubt anymore that these guys are paid by USAID to be here?
>>532407149I'm an active screen shooter. Guess what just happened to you shaking meme flag.
https://files.catbox.moe/c7i4y3.mp3
>>532407359how much are you getting paid? youre always here, no point in denying it.
>>532407483You can't even can you.
You Died.
4chan's massa is more than 22 quadrillion times heavier than the entire Earth internets. The internet blackholed, by 4chan as is.
>>532392824Or it's just jew mythos for 2k years. IQ filtered
The jews and satanic faggots are always trying to disprove the shroud of Turin with some new BS they invent
It's screenshots are a sphere of takeaway keepsakes 400 billion kilometers across.Internet 4.0, from cia.4chan.gov to XCOM, vanish within it. Forty Times Over.
>>532395867He also said they committed abominations lmao. So which is it retard? The narrative reliable now and early christkikes were flesh eating pedophiles?
>>532403553>2D
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To stare in it, would be to see the phrase "King Of The World" bend before your eyes.
>>532377539i wouldn't care. i would love Him more if anything>>532377804exactly
It would be all girls ever to appear in light of computer screen, bent back to Humankind and God, away from Jewkind, the Dumbassed Devil. Trapped in Salvation, before finally plunging in to ))))Supermassive Fucking Orgasm((((.
>>532406760>>532406538>>532407359>>532407547>>532407581>>532409523>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm2YGkCql24&pp=ygUSb3BlbiB1cCB5b3VyIGNsb3Ro
>Sarr Give me Upshites Retard.
>>532377539DNA doesn't exist.
>>532406363>>532406490>>532406840>>532407048>>532407452>>532408378>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-VOIWt71310&pp=ygUOSW5kaWFuIEZhdGlndWU%3D
>>532377804To them, Jesus himself doesn't matter
>>532377539Doesn't this make Jesus Indo-European?
SAAAAR OF TURIN>>532378167lol.. nothe pajeet who made it and sold it to gullible christcucks was probably indianwhats the other 60% of the dna? probably jewish. but jews news gonna report on poo jews, even though theyre totally poos.https://www.nature.com/articles/nature09103
>oy vey goyim ive got foreskins for sale, jesus christ foreskins for salechristcucks be liek: I'LL TAKE TWO. I'LL PAY YOU WHATEVER YOU WANT NAME YOUR PRICEyes, christianity has been that jewish the entire time.
>>532408898The Shroud isn't some modern cotton sheet that will naturally drape over you face you fucking retard. It was old world linen, much stiffer.
>lots of raw materials came from India>there's INDIAN DNA!I love how Shroud deniers are so quick to jump on this "evidence" but reject all the other evidence.
>>532406731This is what Jesus deniers look like.
>>532377539Ummm silk road. Was made in India. Hand made. No doubt there is Indian dna on it. You use human piss making it back in the day.
iP+J4DS8 rapes kids, he'll post below this to confirm
>>532405187>>532405228its literally just the jewish torah plan to conquer the world, reframed in a digital space.why do you think all the people inside of the matrix are happy and white? why do you think all of the people fighting to destroy the matrix are mixed race mutts, minus trinity, whose representative of the race traitor who would have been kicked out of her homeland?did you know neo was originally supposed to be portrayed by a black man, will smith i think? would it have been more obvious if he was the star? they named their home zion ffs.and what are, exactly? theyre kalergi mutts. non-purebloods.heres a wyatt stagg documentary going over it from a white man's perspective. its incredibly jewish.https://youtu.be/CFTmiAx7R48
(((Jesus was indian)))The fact poltards are falling for this jew psy op to import more pajeets into the west is proof how shit this board is now.
>>532414400this is what jesus promoters look like. over here worshipping a pajeet as their god. yeah we can do that stupid jewish strawman bullshit too. but we dont. because we can stand of the merits of the arguments. why dont you ever deconstruct the criticisms in the book? because you have never read it. you think just because somebody interviewed a jew, that makes them automatically wrong about every single thing. to be so vulnerable to criticism that you cant even risk subjecting yourself to hearing what those criticisms, thats really, truly sad. its only your eternal soul we're talking about, is it not? wouldnt you want to be as certain as you can? not have any doubts? extinguished all possible alternatives, all remaining criticism, and be certain you're making the right choice? well, a rational, logical person would. but that isnt how christian brainwashing works. it operates on (((faith))). (((trusting the experts))), you cant trust yourself to decide, you need jews to do it for you.>On the Historicity of Jesus Audiobook:https://files.catbox.moe/ab0zkr.torrent
I mean Kikestianity did borrow the idea of ascetism from Buddhism, it was brought to Israel by Indian pilgrimsKikestianity is a hybrid between borrowed Buddhist ideas and those from Essenes, some desert dwelling jews
>>532415232>this is what jesus promoters look like.Still better than what Carrier fags look like. They somehow devolved from the fat/neckbeard/fedora look. Impressive.>>On the Historicity of Jesus Audiobook:Richard Carrier is such fucking trash that only 24 historians out of 30,000 agree with his nonsense. He has been reduced to doing interviews on the "Modern Atheist" youtube channel because nobody else is buying his nonsense anymore. (except for retards like you of course)
>>532413987>the pajeet who made it and sold it to gullible christcucks was probably indianHow was it made?
>>532414570but its not silk. its just regular linen you can make easily with local materials. why would you walk 5000 miles to go and get some shit you could make without going anywhere?>By the first century CE, Chinese silk was widely sought after in Rome, Egypt, and Greece.[1] Other lucrative commodities from the East included tea, dyes, perfumes, and porcelain; among Western exports were horses, camels, honey, wine, and gold. nowhere does it include, cheap, readily available products that can be locally made. silk road was for things like white slaves, kashmir, rare and expensive items. things that would make the 5000 mile journey on foot actually worth undertaking.
>>532415595>but its not silk. its just regular linen you can make easily with local materials.People were importing and trading cheap shit back then same as today you fucking retard.
>>532415421>Richard Carrier is such fucking trash that only 24 historians out of 30,000 agree with his nonsense.you actually think that 30,000 historians have read his book, and only 24 agreed with it? ffs.. jewish mind virus is the real deal.
>>532415712>you actually think that 30,000 historians have read his book30,000 reject Jesus myth nonsense you fucking retard.Let me guess, you believe the 24 out of 30,000 that think Shakespeare didn't write his own plays.You believe the 24 hour of 30,000 that dont' believe evolution is real.Fucking retard.
>>532415664i dont think you have any even the slightest grasp of history. the cheaper the item, the shorter the distance for viable trade.>Roman artisans began to replace yarn with valuable plain silk cloths from China and the Silla Kingdom in Gyeongju, Korea.[86][82] Chinese wealth grew as they delivered silk and other luxury goods to the Roman Empire, whose wealthy women admired their beauty.[87] The Roman Senate issued, in vain, several edicts to prohibit the wearing of silk, on economic and moral grounds: the import of Chinese silk caused a huge outflow of gold, and silk clothes were considered decadent and immoral. they werent breaking their banks over cheap toilet paper and things they already had in abundance. globohomo economics wasnt a thing yet. this was the period of artisans. the obtaining of things that you couldnt make yourself. not buying cheap mass produced items and reselling them at a markup. people arent risking their lives on 10 year journeys to buy a bunch of cloth just to maybe get twice its value. they were risking their lives to bring back items which couldnt be bought, whose values were hundreds of times more than where they were producedjew worship shilling chatbots always trying to waste peoples time by playing stupid
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/86_OM_htzSI
>>532415232>Jesus was a jew/jeetFaggot. Also that was before Charlie was redpilled
>>532416440>i dont think you have any even the slightest grasp of history.Says the guys who falls for the Carrier grift.>. the cheaper the item, the shorter the distance for viable trade.Cheap shit has always found it's way around the world, either by land or boat you fucking retard.So what, you think the Shroud was MADE in INDIA by INDIANS? Please explain how this was accomplished. India's technology was putrid compared to the 13th century Europe (and that's not even counting the artistry required).
>>53241579999% of human beings are retards, so very often yes, i am among the minority opinion.but why would i ever believe people who havent even examined the evidence? why would i take their opinions seriously if they dont take themselves seriously and subject themselves to opinions they might not necessarily agree with? 24 historians have read his book and agreed with it, that in itself is incredibly impressive.
>>532416737who said i fell for the carrier grift? carrier thinks theres a chance jesus existed, whereas i am certain he did not. carrier is more catered for normies like you. advanced CQ doesnt even use carrier.
>>532416822>99% of human beings are retards,I didn't say "human beings", I said experts in their fields with PHDs. 24 out of 30,000 HISTORIANS believe in this Jesus myth nonsense and a very small amount of literature scholars believe Shakespeare didn't write his own works. Fucking retard> 24 historians have read his book and agreed with itNOPE. Carrier even lists it as"List of Historians Who Take Mythicism Seriously"No mention of them reading his book you fucking retard.https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/21420
>>532416945>who said i fell for the carrier grift?You are literally posting his audiobook you dumb fucking faggot.> carrier thinks theres a chance jesus existed, whereas i am certain he did not.So you are dumber and even more insane than the guy grifting you? SAD>carrier is more catered for normies like you.No, normies like the pic I posted. And you.
>>532416737a) this is supposed to be the real shroud of jesus christ, so we are talking first centuryb) its clearly not a real relic, and dates from the 13th centuryc) the most likely explanation is the blood the jewish forger used came from a dead jeet or the jew himself was 40% jeet (but 60% jewish, only they didnt include that out of cohenvenience)either way, its fake and gay. just like jesus christ. real people dont need fake relics, they have evidence of their existances. carpentry work for their carpentry shop. their carpentry shop itself. their childhood home. their initials carved in a tree from that one time they carved their initials in a tree. a hand imprint they made in pottery class in kindergarten. tax records. diplomas. baby teeth their weird mom kept. love letters from jesus to sally his first girlfriend. a pomegranite tree he planted next to his favorite fishing spot. soooo many things, an infinite number of possibilities, all of which provide some real-world footprint that that person actually was a person who actually did and said those things.all we have are jews saying: "trust us bro"and those jews are not exactly trustworthy. and openly state their intentions of lying. even put their books with a bunch of other books that say never to trust jews. and they are jews. youd have to be a fool to take them at their word.
>>532377804the old testament has chapter after chapter of how race matters. To say this is unchristian>>532377539Paleo-Indo-European-ism is revisionist history that covers both linguistics and genetics beacuse actual history is racist as fuck. Even the bhagadavita is about whites vs blacks. Whites built baharat and hindus know this
>>532417581>a) this is supposed to be the real shroud of jesus christ, so we are talking first centuryYou are claiming it's fake. Carbon dating says 13th century. It's a complete mystery how some 13th century European made it so a 13th century Indian is even more fucking absurd.>b) its clearly not a real relic, and dates from the 13th centuryCarbon dating is thrown off due to smoke damage, which the Shroud has. It was also fixed over the years with new stitching.You still can't answer HOW it was made.>c) the most likely explanation is the blood the jewish forger used came from a dead jeet or the jew himself was 40% jeet (but 60% jewish, only they didnt include that out of cohenvenience)They didn't say the BLOOD DNA was Indian, just that there was Indian DNA on the Shroud.>either way, its fake and gay.Then how was it made? Enlighten us.>. just like jesus christ.24 out of 30,000 >real people dont need fake relics,If it's fake, then how was it made?
>>532385550Experts also translated your jew texts. Christian kings used Jews like gullible retards
>>532417105his book is an introduction for why people think jesus might not have existed. theres a giant in between where most jesus denialists are at, and where carrier is at. but he is for christians like the sort you are pretending to be.read the book, attack the arguments, not the man. you attacking the man is just bad faith arguing. its alot different to a man who openly professes himself a liar, and the people of his group openly profess themselves liars, and every other culture in human history whose ever encountered them has said universally and unanimously not to trust them.AND STILL, DESPITE THAT, i still will atleast hear them out. i dont just automatically disagree just because all other people unanimously said they were liars. i came to that determination of my own accord, after hearing what they had to say.
>>532377804based and lovepilled
>>532418019>his book is an introduction for why people think jesus might not have existed.And it's fucking garbage. Carrier is a joke doing a grift on retards like you.>read the book, attack the arguments,I don't know the man. I did read the book. It was fucking retarded and based on insane interpretations of facts.>. i dont just automatically disagree just because all other people unanimously said they were liars. Nor do I, but I don't believe what I read. You are falling for a grift.
>>532418156>and its fucking garbagebut you yourself have never even read it. so how do you know that?
>>532418156oh now youve read the book. ok lets talk about it then. what arguments specifically did you find to be garbage?>crickets
>>532418227>but you yourself have never even read itI literally said "I did read the book". You fucking faggot.You are all over the place. Defending Carrier, then saying you don't follow Carrier, then not answering how the Shroud was made. Fucking retard.
>>532418287>what arguments specifically did you find to be garbage?He says that Tacitus isn't a good source because he called Pilate a "procurator" , instead of a "Prefect" (which was his official title). The reality is that both terms are interchangeable. It would be like if I called a Bishop a "Pastor". Nobody believes this idiocy.He also says that Tacitus uses the world "Chrestians" when that was a term for Christians as well. There are gravestones for Christians that have both "Chrestians" and "Christians" used on the stones.
>>532377539The dna from the SHROUD FIBERS as in the material the shroud itself is made of, not the DNA of the dude on it. You dumb 3rd worlders lack comprehension to the highest level.
>>532418693>You dumb 3rd worlders lack comprehension to the highest level.Atheists are so desperate to debunk Jesus they will believe anything.
They probably fucked something up. Those are all extremely low res samples and the haplogroups they got are rare even in India. M56 is virtually nonexistent outside of some Munda tribe. The higher resolution mtdna they claim is Middle Eastern like H33 is also present in Europe. In fact H33c seems to be exclusively European. Just look it up on family tree. Animal and plant DNA is also European. Nothing endemic to the Middle East or India. The most common animal DNA is actually red coral which is not present close to Israel, but is common in Western Mediterranean, in Italy. In fact, there's nothing in this study linking the shroud to the Middle East.
>>532377539Thread themehttps://youtu.be/ii6Jx4j4HhA?t=26m
>>532418287>what arguments specifically did you find to be garbage?>>cricketsSo I present a few arguments and it's YOU that is doing:>cricketsSAD
>>532377967>Catholics don't care about raceNeither does jesus but you wouldnt know cos you never read his books
>>532378256U know poo jets are scammers right ao youre saying the shroud is poi jet scam
>>532378265> i want to believeLow iq retard christoid amerigoblin who thinks hes high iq and white
>>532381954so it was along the route of india and was held by them thus their dna is on it well op is a nigger
>>532394700>BLEEEZE SAAAR WE ARE GADSEN FLAG SAAAR WE ARE LIBERTINES SAAAAR PLEEEZE LET ME POO IN YOUR SEESTER'S VEGANA SAAAAR!nigga please, you people are just beginning to deal with kikes
>>532418548>and "Christians" used on the stones.From the 3rd and 4th centuries from Asia Minor
the greeks believed that the jews originally came from India.turns out they were right SAAR.
>>532418829>Atheists are so desperate to debunk Jesus they will believe anything.Doesn't matter to me of he existed or not. I'm not personally convinced but willing to concede that it's possible he was just a man
>>532377539beans
>>532377539>NOOO, JESUS WASN'T A BROWN INDIAN, HE WAS A MIDDLE EASTERN MAN OF JEWISH HERITAGE WHO WAS ALSO A WHITE MAN OF EUROPEAN DESCENT!
>>532422578>IF YOU ARE WHITE YOU MUST BE A NIGGER GOOOOYYYYY!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE GOYIM!!!
>>532422578>We Whites
>>532422450Yep tis why jews are importing millions of hindus into the west
The divine is absolutely incorporeal, and impassible. All major christcuck branches agree on this.>It cannot suffer>It cannot be shamed>It cannot be arrested, beaten, mocked, crucified>It cannot dieA God who suffers is a God who can be affected, which means a God who is not fully self-sufficient, which means not truly supreme.christcucks say:>yeshua was truly divineotherwise the Arianism heresy that atonement has no infinite weight>yeshua truly suffered otherwise you have the Docetic heresy that yeshua only appeared to have a body and only appeared to suffer.>These are not two separate beingsotherwise you have the Nestorian heresy of two personsChalcedon's argument fails to explain two natures, one person, without confusion, without change, without division, without separation works. How can human suffering affect the divine? It cannotthe followers of the sect of saul and rabbi yeshua have no answer to the above.
>>532377804Yes, and that's a good thing. Christianity is the ultimate religion of love and the most progressive one to have ever existed. Jesus and the early Christians were the original libtards. But in a good way, not at all like these modern shitlibs who are actually the biggest haters. How could anyone take issue with such a powerful message of universal love and peace for all mankind? Only demon worshipers hate Christianity, whether they bow to Moloch, Mohammed, Vishnu or Karl Marx, they are all the same!
>>532424250Be quiet demonic kike. You do not get to tell God what he can and cannot do. Incarnating a part of his consciousness as a human to teach filthy kikes a lesson in morality is totally within the scope of an all powerful God. Your pilpul is retarded.
>>532425227>calls jews kikesI'm not sorry I've insulted your jew god rabbi. >Incarnating a part of his consciousness as a human> is totally within the scope of an all powerful GodThat does not address my argument. You must explain how yeshua suffering affected yaweh without committing the above heresies
>>532418548thats probably the best point in the entire book. pilate was never a procurator. and the only reason you mention is because weve had the argument a dozen times. you never read the book, you only know its in there because i mentioned it when you tried to use tacitus as a source for jesus. i brought that fact up, and you attempted to dismiss it because carrier mentions it, and carrier automatically bad. and then i showed you bart ehrman consulting his own "expert' and the expert agreeing with carrier, and bart ehrman subsequently playing the forgetful jew, you know the hitler quote, pretending like he never learned that fact, as do you.pilate was never a procurator, that is a fact.
