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I voted for Trump but I still fully support abortion. I don't wanna have to deal with your retarded kid driving on the highway in 16 years.

Debate me.

>https://www.nbc4i.com/news/politics/doctors-oppose-myriad-of-extremist-abortion-bills-in-statehouse/
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>>532410367
In a world with safe affordable and available contraception, why do we "need" barbaric medieval butchery?
If anyone should be aborted in these circumstances, it should be the parents.

There's plenty of ways to do it that don't provide your local rabbi with the meat for his passover supper.
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>>532410367
Republican voters are the biggest argument in favor of abortion that exists
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>>532410367
If you were killed when you were 1 years old it would be the same as if you were killed right now it would have the same result, you would die. If you were killed while you were a fetus or even a zygote it would have the same effect you would die.

Why do you suppose that is ? If you kill the zygote and ends up ending your life why would that be unless the zygote is you? If you take the DNA sample of the zygote and compare it to you decades later you will find that the DNA is exactly the same. That's because you were that zygote.

It's simple deductive logic. It doesn't require belief in a magical man in the clouds it doesn't require fairy tales it is simple logic, and science.

If it is okay to abort a baby before they are born then it should be okay to kill anybody who is an inconvenience to you.
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>>532410367
Why is Grindr so dead tonight bros? I need dick!!
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>>532410542
Abortion is mercy. Would you rather a baby grow up with a homeless whore, subjected to drugs and child trafficking?
You pro-life fags don't care about the baby's life after birth, you just care about it being born.
Pro-choice people care about being able to sufficiently care for the baby after birth.
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>>532410367
It is factually a human being (a living organism belonging to the human species).
Stage of life (zygote, embryo, fetus, newborn, baby, toddler, kid, teenager, adult, elderly...) doesn't make people another species.

Now, whether all human beings are equal and deserve equal rights is a totally different question.
Niggers for exemple are factually human beings.
But do they deserve equal rights?
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Banning abortion = much bigger black population

I have a very racist friend who goes to Evangelical Christian services more than anyone. I asked her what she thought about that and she just said "I love black babies."
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>>532410367
What else would it be? A frog? A maple tree?
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>>532410670
Now say it without the gritted teeth seething tears and address the following
>>532410494
>In a world with safe affordable and available contraception, why do we "need" barbaric medieval butchery?
>If anyone should be aborted in these circumstances, it should be the parents.
>There's plenty of ways to do it that don't provide your local rabbi with the meat for his passover supper.
The issue would lose 90% of its divisiveness if it wasn't late term months after SEVERAL available contraception methods would've sidestepped the situation entirely.
So again I ask why there needs to be an effort to protect Doctor Pedostein's "right" to baby back ribs fot his Moloch Appreciation Feast.
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Yes conception is the beginning of a human being it's not that hard to be responsible
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>>532410367
Genetically it is human.
But it don't have human rights unless its mom says so.
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>>532410367
> believe in science!!!
as a microbiologist, life starts at conception
no need for debate, that's literally settled science
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>>532410542
So your argument against abortion is that you believe in magic?
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>>532410670
If abortion is mercy, so is terminating the recipient.
We weigh future harms here.
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>>532410367
When I take over, not only will abortion be legal, it will be mandatory for all non-White clumps of cells.
White women will be forced to stop being fat, at which point I will gift them my seed, and repopulate the Earth, in accordance with the Gospel. Hallelujah amen can I get an Amen?
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>>532411220
Nigger.
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>>532411055
>if it wasn't late term months after SEVERAL available contraception methods would've sidestepped the situation entirely
Sadly not every person getting an abortion has the means or the knowledge of getting that.
Some poor girl is raped by her uncle, and she doesn't know what to do because she was never taught yet.
How the fuck does she know to get contraceptives or to tell her parents until they notice a bump?

Again, the whore on the street as well. She has sex (Or is forced upon) and isn't intelligent enough to get contraceptive or just simply doesn't have the money.
I'm sure her state medicaid would cover almost 100% of the costs of the abortion but not of a Plan B pill.

There's layers to this. Your insults only prove that you are unwilling to listen to reason.
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>>532410980
See this is what they actually mean by "All men are created equal."

You are a random expression of a human dna chain and you have no other recourse that others do not offer you.

You may pursue happiness, but its not required for your service.
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>>532411194
if abortion is mercy there is no future harm.
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>>532411265
Why do you hate White people? Are you a faggot? If so, repent and present yourself to the LORD, Deus Vult!
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>>532411338
If you are some stupid you don't rat on your family for abuse, you deserve it.
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>>532410367
Jeets aren't human but for some reason we have to pretend they are.
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>>532411402
In the eyes of the girl, she'd be scared to. I didn't know I'd have to explain this to you.
Clearly you cannot step into someone else's shoes. That's incredibly sad.
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>>532411338
>Some poor girl is raped by her uncle, and she doesn't know what to do because she was never taught yet.
A girl that young axiomatically cannot get pregnant. There's this little thing humans have called puberty. So even if you want to spank it to a pregnant_loli tag, that just ain't how biology works.
Plus, we're talking about America and in American schools abortion is taught as a sacred rite and the best thing ever at least a year or two before girls start ovulating. There is no lack of knowledge. Even literal first graders are being taught blowjobs.

So you've not made a case beyond random "What If in this 1% of cases" speculation, which is what dishonest abortion lovers always do.
>oivey what if it was rape
99% of the time it isn't
>oivey what if they don't know things kids are taught by like age 10 these days
99% of the time it isn't
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>>532411338
Feeling based morality is pretty based. I simply feel you are wrong. And you are in fact wrong. Discussion over.
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>>532411535
You're right about him using the 1% case to make a point
But you're wrong about young girls never being able to get pregnant

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lina_Medina
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>>532411535
>Assuming kids listen to their lectures in school
Big assumption.
>99% of the time it isn't
Part of the reason abortion even exists is to help the "1%" you say are so rare.
Even if the cases you say are truly only 1%, if we didn't care about the 1%, we would let people with rare diseases die because it's "too rare to care about". Does that sound so good?

>A girl that young axiomatically cannot get pregnant
I just gave it a simple search, and yes, a girl as young as 10 had to get a legal abortion.
>she shoulda known to get plan b
She was most likely scared shitless and didn't listen to le funny peepee class beforehand.
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>>532410367
fuck off
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>>532411714
>You're right about him using the 1% case to make a point
I would like to clarify I think abortion should be a last resort.
It's sad knowing that it could have been a life, but it's better knowing that it wasn't raised to an awful household or in extreme circumstances.
When it comes to the cases of people who are lazy or just don't feel like being parents yet can easily sustain a child, I hope they get karma.
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>>532411129
Wrong. Human rights are not real. Nobody has human rights the same way nobody has the power to grant wishes like a genie.
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>>532411714
I don't know why you're splitting the difference then bringing in a very rare exception.

>>532411771
>Part of the reason abortion even exists is to help the "1%" you say are so rare.
No, abortion exists because some eugenacists with large noses want meat for passover.
And of course removing consequences from degeneracy increases degeneracy. Turns out if you remove consequences from actions, people do those actions far more recklessly.

Again, literally ZERO of your counterarguments have explained why in the era of modern medicine, we need to metaphorically amputate over minor treatable infections.
You're just engaging in the long practiced hebrew ritual of deflection and avoiding the core point, "making a point" on something else, then declaring yourself right on the point you didn't even engage with.
I heard a dude wrote a diary about that kind of behavior.
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>>532412093
>we need to metaphorically amputate over minor treatable infections
You are speaking word salad. Please be concise and tell me exactly what you want me to refute, and I'll happily tell you what my thoughts are on it.

>You are not agreeing with me so you are le jewish overseer
I'm actually mostly German, seig heil!.

Also, please read: >>532411952
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>>532412261
I believe there was also a passage that when cornered, the dishonest debater would then move to feign ignorance.
Weird how applicable that is, huh?

It is clear what I mean when I am contrasting abortion and amputation with medicinal treatment, as I've been doing since the beginning.

>I'm actually mostly German
A lot of dishonest persons have vaguely germanic names as well.

>>532411952
The conditions of your "last resort" are basically "all the time without limitation or accountability".
What if late term abortion came alongside sterilization of both parents?
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>>532412485
>I am contrasting abortion and amputation with medicinal treatment
Oh, well if there's a medicinal way to perform an abortion then I support that. The least invasive way is always the best way.

>What if late term abortion came alongside sterilization of both parents?
Easy, I don't support late term abortions unless it's a miscarriage. Even then I don't think that technically counts as an abortion.

And if the medicinal ways you say truly exist to not allow "The jews to get their foreskin", then it wouldn't even be an invasive procedure to get rid of the miscarriage.
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>>532412645
Fair enough.
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>>532412752
Sorry for the misunderstanding, before today I didn't even know non-invasive procedures existed.
Thank you for the enlightening debate, though.
Have a good day.
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>>532410367
Democrats want you to believe taking away guns will actually solve anything. They are both stupid positions and fuck up their parties
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>>532410367
Was it conceived by humans? Then it is human. If it was conceived by pandas or whales or something non-human then it isn’t human. Offer free sterilization to the ones that made it if carrying long enough to make adoption an option is such an onerous burden.
Also fuck you.
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>>532410367
>Republicans want you to believe that this is a human being
It is.
>I voted for Trump but I still fully support abortion. I don't wanna have to deal with your retarded kid driving on the highway in 16 years
There's literally nothing wrong with abortions. If some retard gets pregnant they 100% should abort it if they can't take care of it.
>Debate me
Waste of time.
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>>532410367
>Republicans want you to believe that this is a human being
I'll agree that it's not a human if you retarded cuckolds stop pretending niggers are humans.
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>>532410367

Human beings look strange when they're conceived, who would have guess?

The point to life is to continue, abortion cuts that off, therefor it is retarded behavior.

The only problem I have with abortions is that the people who get them aren't made infertile afterwards, that should be the price to pay for getting one.
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>>532410367
I support abortion because it's a eugenics program.
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>>532410670
Name a single time you've seen a homeless child. Just one fucking time.
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>>532414782
>Because I haven't seen it, means it doesn't exist
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>>532410992
That's not true, you freakonomics fuck. Letting negresses have abortions means they can go out and keep fucking everything up. They have no ball and chain that the state ensures is taken care of under penalty of law. You force it to go to term and the mother has to care for it, the father has to care for it, at least monetarily, and it keeps them in the court system for years under threat of jailtime. You have such a short sighted worldview. Niggers are allowed to run roughshod over us because they have no one overseeing their life to make sure the child is being cared for.
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>>532414073
>The only problem I have with abortions is that the people who get them aren't made infertile afterwards, that should be the price to pay for getting one.
Are you me? I'm saying that all the time. Every abortion comes with mandatory sterilization. Would solve a lot of problems.
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>>532414869
It literally doesn't, you fucking nigger. The state comes and picks them up and fosters them. No one here has ever seen a homeless child because they don't fucking exist, you dumb bitch.



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