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>I think the US will be leaving NATO very soon

>Tehran has finalized secret agreements with France, Switzerland, Austria, Italy, and Spain. These nations have closed their airspace to US forces, a concession for Iran permitting oil tanker passage through the Strait of Hormuz.
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>>532415645
Good, it needs to happen if Europe is to have any chance of becoming a real power
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>>532415645
>THE PRIME ANALYSIS
the fuck is that supposed to be
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>>532415645
Can’t do it without congress
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>>532415645
USA needs NATO because all the cuck euro countries have to spend a certain amount of money on US equipment
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>>532415645
There’s only one ally US truly needs and they will never abandon it. Fuck NATO, literally useless freeriders.
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>>532415645
Austria and Switzerland are landlocked, why would they be making any deals with Iran
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>>532417531
Because Europeans love Muslims and they'll do anything to make them happy.
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>>532417531
They need energy
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>>532417656
Absolutely nothing makes a migger seethe more than a country that is not subservient to Israel.
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>>532415645
Good. Burgers can't even win their own wars and the last time article 5 was activated was to force us to fight another one of their fucking zog wars.

Fuck America, fuck off out of the west. Nigger countries are not welcome in NATO
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>>532417928
Cope all you want, retard.
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>>532415645
I doubt it, NATO’s secretary general is gonna come butter up Trump again

But long term I doubt the US will ever be as invested in NATO as it was during the Cold War. The first president to start this wasn’t Trump, it was Obama. Biden was an old school Atlanticist but the younger Dems are likely more to buy into Obama’s pivot to Asia which was to shift focus from Europe and ME to East and Southeast Asia. Japan/China have the most US debt and Canada/Mexico are the two most important allies technically, it’s largely just the MIC that wants to maintain the status quo because NATO defense spending is business for them
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>>532418086
UK is the one who activated it despite us telling them it wasn't necessary. Do some research, retarded zoomer.
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>>532418164
Come on. Seethe. Grit your teeth. Clench your fist. There are people who are not loyal to Israel, and will never be.
Do you feel your heart rate rising?
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>>532415952
AI psychosis flare up, don't worry about it. It's just the barbie bimbodoll mind virus.
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>>532415645
of course my cuck country still licks their boots.
fml.
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>>532418335
You're the one seething. I made a joke calling Europe out and you immediately shit your pants and started crying like a baby.
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>>532415645
lmao
an alliance does not mean countries will join you when you start wars
holy fuck
it is a defensive pact FOR THIS VERY REASON
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>>532418451
lmao
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>one day Russia joins NATO
>EURUSNATO VS decayed America and rogue belligerent Israel
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>>532418249
Re read what I wrote faggot. I didn't say America activated it. It wouldn't have been necessary if you weren't going around doing as the Jew commands you to

You wish I was a Zoomer. Then I'd be eligible to be sent to die for your kike wars if it gets ugly. You're a plague and an embarrassment to whites across the planet.
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>>532415645
Of course we will, so Israel can go bomb the fuck out of turkey, because turkeys on the menu.
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>>532415645
Realistic Europe can defend itself
It has a gdp and population comparable to the US
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>>532417531
Switzerland has very big companies involved in commodities trading, logistics, etc.
The ships don't go to Switzerland, but they're Swiss-owned and/or carrying Swiss-owned goods.

As for Austria, they're probably making sure the flow of Red Bull continues globally.
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>>532415645
Good
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>>532419729
Turkey's in NATO
Gonna be interesting.

I predict: Russia + US + Israel vs NATO
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>>532417928
This
>>532418164
Seething kike
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>>532415645

Even the Euros are not that retarded. A move like that would push the US immediately closer to Russia. Trump already said that he wanted to "pull Russia away from China". This will make him move decisively in that direction.
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>>532415645
>NATO

The only good thing about Zion Don doing isreal’s bidding is the fact that it might just blow up NATO.

These countries that have used their money to build up their social services while American tax dollars pay for their defense are in for some serious cutbacks when they actually have to pay their own way for the first time since World War II.

They have smugly acted as if they were “enlightened” while ignoring the massive line items that they have shifted from their budgets to the American pockets.

You all will soon be shocked when you find yourself with zero American support propping up your country’s bloated budget.

The seething and backbiting from Brussels as they try to shift expenditures may even blow up the EU, so once again, you euros will owe us your thanks
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>>532415757
I agree. They've been coasting.
Canada too. NORAD needs to be next on the negotiation block. Canada and Canadians love to chide America, but have no idea how much we rely on them for defence.
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>>532421386
>These countries that have used their money to build up their social services while American tax dollars pay for their defense are in for some serious cutbacks when they actually have to pay their own way for the first time since World War II.
The deal was we all use petro dollars, you provide army security. You don't like that? No problem. Don't cry when your dollar becomes worthless and you starve to death.
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>>532415645
>Biologicals
sub 100 IQ
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>>532420629
Yeah, Israel has a hard on for that greater Israel plan and turkey is part of it, so you know they have something in the works.
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>>532415645
You know.I think that would be in the best interests of everyone involved.
Americans can re-calibrate towards dying for Israel and using historical materialism to create the conditions for the apocalypse or whatever they're into and we can have sovereignty and less jew-loving.
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>>532418645
Lol Israel would betray us day 1
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>>532415645
NATO has never been an offensive alliance. Part of the rationale for decolonization from the American perspective was to stop a random countries dumbass foreign interests dragging the entire alliance into a stupid fight it got itself into.

This logic is fundamentally sound, and describes this Iran campaign that not even the American people are thrilled about. NATO is considerably more skeptical after a lot of goodwill and trust was lost in Operation Iraqi Freedom in 2003.
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I think Iran is stupid to let any oil tankers through whatsoever. At least not without a big tax.
The reality is that if the US pulls outbof nato it will concentrate more resources against Iran.
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>>532421386
>These countries that have used their money to build up their social services
America spends just as much on social services. It's just squandered by Soviet levels of corruption. We're taxed like Europeans but don't get the social services.
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>>532421982
>a lot of goodwill and trust was lost in Operation Iraqi Freedom in 2003
So another unjustified invasion based on lies. The US demands Europe participates? So basically you can say, the kikes are dividing the west and benefiting for themselves.
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>>532415757
lmao
it's already over for western Europe
the demographics of Europe have already sealed the deal and this posturing is just cope
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>>532421639
The burger golems do not comprehend soft power

Even as their military is denied access to their allies countries they still don't understand how this is a collapse of their hegemony. They're literally too dumb to understand.
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>>532415645
We don't care what Europeans think any more. They've allowed their civilization to be taken over by Jihadist invaders. Until they sort that out, we have zero respect for them. Trying to argue with 90% of Europe is a waste of time. Their people are beyond demoralized. Intergenerational cucking has completely drained them of the will to stand up for anything virtuous, even the basic animal values of self-preservation. They are essentially told they must care for every foreigner, and many of them go along with it. Euros are educated in self-destructive nihilism from birth, and the fruit of this despondency is a complete spiritual collapse of the continent.

The reality is, Europe is just becoming a satellite continent for Africa and the Middle East. There is no visible assimilation or even an attempt at it. Europeans are nothing but the dogs of Muslims. They have established themselves as the ruling class in Europe, they live there, but are not subject to European laws or values, while native Europeans exist to serve them and must placate their every whim.

A Muslim can mass murder dozens of Europeans. And what is their instinct? Mourn for their dead brothers and sisters? Desire revenge? Make sure it doesn't happen again by getting them out? No. When an attack happens, Europeans don't shed tears for the dead. They shed tears thinking about the backlash against Muslims. They cry about how, "oh, this attack will cause the far right to be more popular!" Meanwhile they reassure themselves that we are all human while Muslims laugh at them for being weak spineless cucks and blatantly take advantage of them, proudly sucking Europe dry.

It is like they want to go extinct. They hate themselves more than anything else in the world. A continent of useless, self hating pussies who somehow think they are also superior to the rest of the world because they care about "muh human rights" (lel)
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>>532422048
The rich people are untaxed. The rich people in the US are milking the system like maniacs. They totally rule the government
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>>532421639
> starve to death.

lol, as if. Even our poorest niggers and spics are fat

Petrodollar doesn’t matter now that we passed peak oil, now it’s control of the diminishing resource
Also
>dat flag
Pay debts €€€
germoney is done with subsidies for your hairdressers to retire at 45…
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>>532415645
If EU cuts a deal with Iran and oil prices come down, this is the same thing as "reopening the strait."

The US doesn't get its oil through the Hormuz. It's just affected by the price increase like everyone else. There are no US-bound ships transiting the Hormuz lmfao it's on the other side of the world.
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>>532422167
BRO YOUR DEBT IS 39 TRILLION
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>>532422050
>So another unjustified invasion based on lies.
Basically. The US might be treated better regarding airspace usage if hadn't spent the last few months before invading Iran threatening to invade NATO members. However, there's not a whole lot of military rationale to spend their blood and treasure on a mess the US has self-inflicted; and that's in addition to the understandable impulse to spite Donald Trump between the invasion threats and trade war he initiated against them.
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>>532422254
Trump is a fucking lunatic. I was down with the idea of a great leader taking power and solving our ciilizational crisis. But this isn't the guy. At best you can say he's a madman.
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>>532422254
Almost nobody wanted this war.
Anyone who says the U.S. Government follows the will of the people is delusional
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>>532422211
>The US doesn't get its oil through the Hormuz.
It does actually. Most of our refining is set up for Persian Gulf crude, and the US is a net importer of crude oil.
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>>532421386
>force their toilet paper currency on the rest of the word in exchange for defense
>leverages extortion tariffs on his allies despite already taxing them indirectly with their toilet papet dolar deal that offloads american national debt on the rest of the world
>threatens and disrepects allies
>goes back on their part of the deal of providing military support, yet demands the rest of the world keep taking their toilet paper currency
>starts unilaterally a war of aggression that impacts greatly said allies economies
And yet imbeciles like you pretend not only that you are not robber barons bullying their alleged allies, but even have the gall to act all indignant.
I don't like china, but you morons deserve to have the entire world against you. I do feel sorry for the normal citizens in your country that will suffer the insanity you glowniggers and deranged boomer zionist evangelicals are promoting, since you are the only ones really supporting all this idiocy.
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>>532421560
Defence from who? They have always been your only real threat.
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>>532422122
>the rich people are untaxed
the bottom 90% only account for 12% of federal income, we could all go on a tax strike and the gov would barely notice
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>>532422543
>North West Passage
Aussies might be the next stupidest populace after Canada. The whole 'Commonwealth' is full of retards.
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What a dumb analysis. The real reason is because America is that because America constantly fucks with Ukraine, threatened Denmark and sanctions the international court in The Hague. While deals with Trump are meaningless, as they can change on a whim just like with the tariffs. If you join the American war then Trump might just pull out the next day leaving you with the mess.
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>>532422088
> soft power

Is that your nickname for your knob, Bruce?

Americans more than understand, we have been paying the world to hate us anyway under the guise of soft power since WWII.

Those of us that read what USAID was up to with our tax dollars are more than happy to stop payment on their nonsense money laundering and foreign bribery schemes. It’s not like it even bought us any good will.

An actual question for any of you 5 eyes countries, Do any of you think that these places that have cut a deal with Iran have the ability to stop the USA from using their bases and airspace if we say, fuck you, I do what I want?

(((International law))) means exactly dick without a big fucking armed force backing it up
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>>532415645
Whatever Trump does can be undone by the next president, unless congress makes it official.
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>>532422980
>Americans more than understand, we have been paying the world to hate us anyway under the guise of soft power since WWII.
Imagine being this thin skinned and narcissistic. Outside of commieland and a few countries we bombed like Vietnam (who we later became buddies with), the US was well liked until the Iraq War, largely recovered that reputation under Obama to the point that China's natural economic bloc of neighboring Asian countries would rather work with us than the Chinese (this was the point of the TPP). And then Trump collapsed it for asinine reasons as the embodiment of the Republican base's thin skinned paranoia that everyone is out to get them.
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>>532422980
>It’s not like it even bought us any good will
Except you had/have bases almost everywhere on the planet through your soft power. They are the arteries of your fucking enormous logistics network and the exact reason you are able to project hard power when you want. You claim to understand but clearly do not.

>Do any of you think that these places that have cut a deal with Iran have the ability to stop the USA from using their bases and airspace if we say, fuck you, I do what I want?
No 1 country can stop you. But you're not fighting 1 country at a time because you're a fucking nigger chimp of a country. Europe openly made it clear they would fight if you tried it in Greenland.
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>>532423261
>You claim to understand but clearly do not.
Republicans claim to be the pro-military party, but they don't understand the first thing about military science or grand strategy. They're completely delusional.
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>>532423351
You're projecting
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>>532422537
>memeflaggots

I’m not for this war for isreal at all, but it shows that delusional faggots like you have zero clue on how much the world has lived on the largesses of the American taxpayer.

You think that propping up welfare states around the world helps Americans, and yet accuse us of being robber barons when our economy has been hollowed out by this (((deal))) that has helped nobody but the (((international))) and (((non-governmental)))

Why is Yuan value still tied and adjusted to the value of the Dollar?

Again
>memeflaggot
Why do you hide your origin, faggot?
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>>532415645
NATO is dead and I couldn't care less about it. I'm waiting now for a mutual defense treaty with Russia and the inevitable war to reduce Europe to farming colonies supplying the world with wine, cheese and cute blonde concubines.
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>>532423618
No, you simply don't understand America's lilypad strategy, and the alliance system that lets us have a standard of living 20-30% better than it would be if we had to be a normal country.
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>>532417531
They have massive navigable rivers dipshit. Fucking mutt.
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>>532422683
It's because money is so insanely detached from production these days that speculation is more profitable than work, something that simply isn't sustainable.
We live in a world where the people who make the most money primarily just have money that makes more money for them: It's not even neo-feudalist because feudal estates actually produced something other than dollars.
The actual core problem is that as the number of currency in the system rises, you need a similar amount of increase in actual real-world production to prevent excess inflation.But when investing and speculation are more profitable than production, production stalls and the amount of currency in the system increases.
This is doubly dangerous because the world can only physically produce so much, whereas investing can theoretically yield infinite money. The rich use this financial magic to live far in excess of their productivity, so they don't want it to stop. In fact, the more other rich people use investment, the more they need to do it to stay ahead themselves.
Worse yet, the other anchor in all of this is that the investment is tied to salaries at companies and organization, pensions, retirement savings, and other social services. Because people don't do things anymore unless they get paid (because our system has been optimized to squeeze out as many unpaid third-place locations as possible) and the money they use things comes from these investments, slowing down the investment causes everything else to stall, production included.
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>>532423154
>the US was well liked until the Iraq War
Our (((allies))) have been running psyops against their own people to prevent American culture from completely dominating them without the US firing a single shot.
We're now at a point in history where these same (((allies))) are trying to run a psyop against the American people to convince them that backing out of a one-sided defense alliance is somehow against their own interests.
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>>532423261
> have bases almost everywhere on the planet through your soft power.

Wrong, that was through hard power.

When you are the main superpower, you get to dictate the terms of what you want to defend your vassals and your interests against the other large superpowers.

Why doesn’t Greece or Mongolia have bases where they please like they did in their history? Only because their empires are long gone but their idea of “soft power” was not killing off the local tax collectors and functionaries and putting them to work for their empires. It’s not like their vassals had any real say in the matter, much like ours today.
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>>532424161
So the economic system is caught at an impasse:
>If they don't produce more to keep up with currency, they risk people abandoning production entirely to focus only on the more profitable speculation, which will render currency meaningless and cause everything to collapse
>If they try to produce more, they face regulatory capture performed by businesses intended to prevent anyone from reducing their own income or market share, not to mention real-life concerns like exhausting local resources or damaging the environment
>If they try to make people invest less, then they face the economy stalling because confidence in businesses will be reduced and therefore the value of investments will sink
The ultimate issue is that there are too many middlemen and none of them are willing to give up their spot to make sure that there are enough people for them to profit off of.
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>>532424170
Okay, enjoy a 20-30% reduction in your living standards if the US actually has to pay denbts and sell things people want to build foreign currency reserves.

Dollar dominance gives a massive free ride to unproductive yokels, that would have to be abandoned like rural Russians in the 90s if we were a normal country.
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>>532424386
>yokels
I mean sure I guess you could say that
The most unproductive people in the world wear designer dresses and three-piece suits, but go off, king
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If it's secret how does a literal who on twitter know about it?
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>>532424430
>The most unproductive people in the world wear designer dresses and three-piece suits, but go off, king
Okay commie. This is not the case any place in the world, but go off. MAGA isn't beating the Maoism-with-American-characteristics allegations.
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>>532424320
>When you are the main superpower, you get to dictate the terms of what you want to defend your vassals and your interests against the other large superpowers.
Wtf. Lol you clown. Being allowed to put bases in other countries without having to fight them is the very definition of soft power. It is the ability to persuade or influence through diplomacy or culture instead of force.

I'm out, you're just changing what words mean to try and make your shit make sense.
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>>532424517
The difference between someone in a podunk literal who town in Nebraska is that he and all of his relatives can get handed 30k a year by the government and still not waste as much money as the people who we rely on to build our infrastructure and organize our healthcare
Additionally, I live in Virginia and I have never voted for Trump
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>>532415645
>biologicals
AI is so fucking cringe.
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>>532422167
You are all fat due to eating nutrition less corn syrup, since that's practically all you produce, your beef is fed corn syrup your goycattle is fed corn syrup.
I guess you won't starve straight away though.
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>>532415645
Europe showing their true colors. Europe is no longer western.

Return to us or rot and burn Yuro fags
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>>532424767
Cope and seethe. Everyone who visits Europe that I know complains about the lack of food

I managed to impress a german white cutie with the amount of food i was able to buy for 20 bucks when i took her to Jack in the Box

I hope you enjoy being russian clay just cause you were too proud or stupid to line up with us, the good guys
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>>532418398
worried about you lot the most, military build-up, acquisition of nukes, plus potential for an outside force to create a pressure cooker could make you a serious problem in 5-10 years
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>>532417128
Nigeria?
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>>532424517
Like, for real, are you actually arguing that the problem is that there are a bunch of useless eaters in the Midwest or Rust Belt who have already been abandoned by their government, rather than the much simpler explanation that the supposed experts in charge of wealth and power and influence in the US are a bunch of grifters who have finally run out of corners to cut and are in the process of letting everything rot to preserve their own profit margin?
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It's fascinating to me how mutts and jews can spread pure propaganda through their weaponized loudspeak xitter and there's just no one to question it. Especially the European cucklords who just take it in the ass because they cannot utter a word without getting overthrown by their own people.

For the record - the airspaces aren't actually closed. Not only do they fly through them with transponders off, but they also fly with transponders on every now and then. Stop falling for pentagon propaganda and especially stop falling for jewish lies.
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>>532422683
>the bottom 90% only account for 12% of federal income, we could all go on a tax strike and the gov would barely notice
But accounts of 100% of all govermental needs. Looks like a gross misspayment.
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>>532424547
> Bruce playing semantics

Aussies practically begged the USA to help fortify and back up their naval forces with our presence there as a counter to the communist Chinese threat.

We kept Sydney from looking like Shanghai for half a century, and then you went and did it to yourselves…

At least you can rent a Chinese girl’s asshole for cheap without leaving town now, Bruce
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>>532421560
>They've been coasting
The US literally forced us to dissarm in order to join NATO.
>you don't need those balsitic missiles bro, we got your back
>you don't need 200k man army bro
>you don't need all those tanks bro
>etc.
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>>532425039
ISRAEL
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>>532424386
>enjoy a 20-30% reduction in your living standards if the US actually has to pay denbts
kek, try 50-80%
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>>532425187
Fuck it, why don't we just make the whole world LLMs?
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>>532424889
The west is the civilization of Xenophon and Cicero. Not of Schlumi and Moshe.
You have decided that you want to be part of the latter (entirely imaginary) civilizational complex and it is part of why your country is in the absolute shitter and in the grasp of child-raping shtetl-trash and their mercenary goons.
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>>532415645
>Europeans not rushing to US defence now is the problem
>Not the 4+ year war in Europe that US is ignoring
Fuck you mutts, you reap the whirlwind.
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>>532416315
>>532418086
>>532421639
They will still buy from us, that's the funny thing about all this euro sperging is they can't replace our arms, or our consumer markets. Not like India and china is going to be buying Audis and BMWs. Europe is in for some serious continent-wide austerity in the next 20 years, it's going to make 2003 greece look quaint.
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>>532415645

Fake and gay news
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>>532425440
We spent billions on your aggressive war against Russia that we told you was a bad idea. A war that benefitted only you, and us not at all
Get your ass in the desert and start killing ragheads for Israel, Sven, and maybe we'll consider bailing you out against Ivan
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Seen this pointless conversation thousands of times now. Go on then, leave NATO. You've been saying you will for 2 years now.
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>>532425440
Have you every wondered once in your retard life who is buying your crappy cars? Guess what it's not Iranians. When 20% of your nations GDP is autos and the primary export for them is USA, it's time to shit the fuck up and lick boot. But I honestly wish trump would tariff all European autos 1000% over this and watch the EU collapse.
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>>532425100
Anon is a europoor larping as an American because he's deeply concerned that America breaking away from NATO will mean upsetting their role as a lamprey to the rules-based order.
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>>532425720
They 100% took advantage of Biden being senile and corrupt.
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>>532421639
>The deal was we all use petro dollars, you provide army security.

I actually argree with you on this point, that is in fact the essence of the Bretton Woods agreement. However, having said that, two other things are also true. One: The US currency is likely to remain the worlds majority reserve currency, because of all the other possible currencies, it is still the most stable and translucent. and Two: If the American economy collapses, so will the whole worlds. Its all interconnected, and there is no known method to decouple, we would certainly be in uncharted waters.

We live in interesting times.
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>>532425100
> who have already been abandoned by their government,
They have not. That's part of the problem. They're far from the most unproductive people in the US: that's probably the blacks wasting some of the highest value real estate on the planet and thanking the American people for this largess with horrific crime and the negative externalities of being annoying to live around.

After that, useless wiggers defrauding disability and doing bullshit jobs for the state government are keeping a lot of places that should be allowed to die on life support. Getting their young and potentially production somewhere they can do something other than spend tax dollars on vapes and tattoos is very important, but given the laziness and lack of care, I don't think they'd even be particularly good factory drones.
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>>532425833
What fucking rules-based order? Israel breaks the rules constantly and we're expected to go along with it like a pussywhipped boomer who still takes calls from his physically abusive ex but refuses to do anything about it because she's a woman and can do no wrong.
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>>532423945
>if we had to be a normal country.
What is american exceptionalism?
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>>532426133
You have a very pathological view of society.
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>>532415645
It's easier to leave nato than to force turkey out. israel has its eyes on turkey and syria

put two and two together
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>>532415757
Meanwhile India is our ally of the future (Israel is more like our Father)
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>>532426549
>israel has its eyes on turkey and syria
Wow, somebody on the internet said it so it must be true.
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>>532415645
Can safely say this is fake fanfic because Italy hasn't closed shit
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>>532426689
>knows nothing
>makes it everyone else's problem

Many such cases.
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>>532425543
Bring it on, I want amerizog culture gone, shitskins dying of cold in the streets and old alliances restored.
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>>532426647
Plus India already has the big dog army already to ready to go and they have the same government much of the countries in Europe have.
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>>532426647
Who knew that the developing world develops? Our constitution is older than Israel's and India's combined.
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>>532426748
Is that another statement that you wish to pass off as fact?
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>>532426689
>greater israel is just a conspiracy theory antisemitic hoax
you 10 years ago, probably
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>>532422980
>we have been paying the world to hate us anyway
We only hate you now because you managed to put an orange warmongering pedophile to represent you in the world stage, you voted for this, this is 100% your fault.
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>>532426133
So are you a fascist or what? You don't like the Republicans, and the Democrats are the people keeping urban centers a concrete jungle. Libertarians are a joke and part of how we got here (yeah bro trickle down economics definitely works), and what the fuck else is there for you to be? You're clearly not a distributivist (very pie in the sky given the mechanisms of economics).
It really is as simple as
>we used to produce more stuff and now we don't
That tells you what happened to American economics. All the yokels you complain about were what kept this economy running. But oh no, we don't need them, we can do everything on computers in AC. And all of our farm workers can be imported so that we can pay them less seasonally and then spend billions of dollars to fail to evict them, posturing to our "working class" base that we haven't cared about since the 1960s so we can farm votes and continue to spend money paying off other guys in the federal government or paying contracting companies to do our job for us with the same taxes we extract from them at four times the rate we pay our own employees. Or better yet, how about I'm a tech company that imports hundreds of thousands if not millions of foreign keyboard jockeys to undercut my own nation's wages while making the majority of services that they were hired on to improve and maintain worse?
Seriously. It's all varying degrees of middle management and upper management trying to pull as much money out of as many people as possible without worrying about the long term consequences of any of it because they decided fuck you, I got mine.
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>>532426761

World's largest air forces by budget

Military
Fleet Count
2024 Defense Budget

1. USA
14,486
$997 billion

2. China
4,392
$314 billion

3. Russia
4,211
$149 billion

4. Germany
745
$88.5 billion

5. India
2,296
$86.1 billion
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>>532426871
Implications?
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>>532426914
>Democrats are the people keeping urban centers a concrete jungle.
That's Republicans. It's a rural vs city fight and when rural gets more power the city suffers. Go to your local town hall meetings and learn about the real world
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>>532426647
We ain't no friends mutts.
Plus until you don't completely destroy the Iranians and take control of hormuz and then let us nuke Pakis back to a unsurvivable desert shithole we can't be frens. Sorry mutt saars
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>>532427075
You will be our vassal
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>>532427035
post nose
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>>532427044
>when rural wins
You mean when suburbia wins. The rural US might as well not exist. Suburbia, on the other hand, contains all the people just wealthy enough and just angry enough to start shit with the urban centers.
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>>532426957
Consider this much more relevant statistic
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>>532427130
Post your mother's feet, you hobbit.
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>>532415645
>the us uses their airspace anyway
>they dont do shit
wow!
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>>532415645
Austria and Switzerland never were in NATO....
>long term strategic partnership
Like fucking over cunts' energy sources, slapping them with tariffs and threatening to occupy their overseas territories...
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>>532425015
>Everyone who visits Europe that I know complains about the lack of food
What?
Are you serious with that?
I alone know dozens of people here who spend a lot of money on ozempic...
Food here is generally cheaper than in the US, except maybe the lowest quality goyslop.
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>>532427682
I used to think about moving to Austria but I want to make sure that if America goes down it doesn't take anywhere nice down with it
I don't expect other Americans will have those principles: Expect a lot of English-speaking Business PolSci, and Computer Science majors
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>>532427274
Our leaders are experts at making threats but never following through, better to just keep quiet than trying to be something you're not. I feel in the current year we have reached new highs in the divide between elites and normal people. The elite start wars and fool around with stuff none care about.
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>>532422066
All births in US are by shitskins. TExas is full of Indians. You mutts really are fucking delusional. You're already minority White. Even the UK isn't nearly as bad as you are, they're still 80% White, and they're about to flip full ethno-nationalist.
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>>532417531
Why not? What are you gonna do about it you fucking mutt nigger? Europe will nuke your mutt ass to a crisp you fucking kikebot goycattle.
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>>532425015
Funny thing, I had a girl visit me from Texas just last year, and she couldn't stop eating delicious Polish kielbasa
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>>532415757
This.
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>>532428476
You let an Indian on your dick? I mean, it's yours to risk I guess.
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>>532422066
>American talking about demographics

Do you people have any self-awareness?
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>>532415645
i hope it was also a million bucks a ship
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It makes sense Iranian refugees or Iranian oil?
Not a hard decision to make.
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>>532421981
Most likely yes.
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>>532420249
Europe has twice the population of USA.
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>>532428741
Yeah, but then you need to start treating Eastern Europeans like people
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>>532422167
To be fair, didn't Trump say he would remove funding for agriculture recently?
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>>532422088
Soft power can only exist if backed by hard power.
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>>532415645
Why are you people so gay and retarded. This is all theatrics to allow Europe to get oil while the war will keep going.
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>>532424547
No it’s hard power since it’s backed by force. It’s not some fag in a suit words on their own which make it happen it’s the implication that if they say no that something bad will happen either they will end up getting fucked in an invasion or the people they say no to will fuck then up.
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>>532428790
>start treating Eastern Europeans like people
oh that will never happen
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>>532415645
>US threatens and pisses on every ally they have
>wtf why aren't they doing as told?
Comical levels of incompetence.
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>>532426914
>All the yokels you complain about were what kept this economy running
No, they failed to keep up and fell behind Asia in the 70s and 80s, and want gibs to keep their zombie "industry" that absolutely sucks if you ever have to deal with it (as opposed to hitting up Ryan Xi on WeChat and getting responsive customer service) it alive.

The hinterlands of America is a patchwork of these boomer petty tyrants that can't run a business begging for gibs, hiring illegals under the table, using political connections in local governments to keep their shitty unproductive businesses afloat.
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>>532421386
>American tax dollars pay for their defense
Tell me how the US using RAF Lakenheath to host, fuel and load their bomber is helping UK defense?
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>>532428741
>Europe has twice the population of USA
Half the GDP.
10% of the military power.
2% of the global reach (entirely thru French Islands)
Barely 80 million Germans, who rule Europe and consider everyone else subhuman.
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>>532429435
>Half the GDP.
To be fair, USA GDP primarily consists around four or five companies money laundering and completely relies on customers outside of the US.
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>>532424320
Wrong, go look at the 16-18th century. European countries like Portugal, France, Britain, Netherlands got to carve out bases everywhere because their goods were in such demand. Their hard power was only used very rarely, and often more against rival merchant powers like the Mamluks or Ottomans than the people they wanted to have operating bases in. None of the people obsessing over hard power have any idea what hard power or soft power even mean, or how it was actually used. But hey, keep cheerleading this decaying country to its ruin.
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>>532429494
So you're jealous is what I'm hearing.
Every Swedish bank has literally ALL their money invested in Nvidia and other U.S. companies.
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>>532429744
>Every Swedish bank has literally ALL their money invested in Nvidia and other U.S. companies.
Exactly.
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>>532415645
>trump europe needs to be more aggressive and help it's people
also trump, send your people at war for me cause i attacked iran.
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>>532422066
you are a european country. europe is western civilization. our death is your death, and you are too blinded by politics to realize it
the day will come when the european men are wiped off the map, and your descendants will cry about it like greeks today do about byzantium
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>>532429435
Gdp is a completely meme in a world where the petro-dollar evaporates, and international trade breaks down.

Russia proved when it withstood international sanctions with minimal effects on the general economy.

In the scenario where the USD collapses all that matters is.

1.) Iron, aluminum & steel production.

2.) Coal,nat gas and Oil.

3.) Farmland and fertilizer (nitrogen and potash.)

When you look that perspective, Europe is decent and would be even better of it it prevents American from accessing Eurasian trade and resources. And redirects said resources to Europe.
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>>532429835
>prevents American
They'd need a military to do that.
Instead, the USA just denied them access to oil, gasoline, and heating gas other than from the American technocracy.
Checkmate. Let's see windmills keep you warm in the Swedish winter.
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>>532422348
he is Chaos anon, look up the Egyptian god kek, and the impact kek as a way of saying lol has had on 4chan. We wanted chaos, and we got it.
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I'll be called an eurocuck, europoor etc but i personally have nothong against the USA, i like your country, i like our alliance, but why the fuck would the USA attack iran, for the sake of israel, fucking up the world economy AND expect every other country in NATO, which was born more as a defense coaliton, to join in and only risk to fuck up the situation even more and make it a seriously large scale conflict? I didn't mind the tariffs at all, in my opinion it was a net positive for both the USA and Europe and some bants between the two parts makes the relationship stronger, but for fuck sake israel has literally permeated every aspect of your politics, and you think that europe is now not a good ally.
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>>532415757
Europe is becoming Saudi Arabia north. A colony for the Arabs. It's over for Europe. Likewise, Australia is becoming a Chinese colony. It's over for the roos. America is the last hope for the West.
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>>532430165
>America is the last hope for the West.
The west is lost then when their last hope can't even open a pool lol
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>>532428398
>and they're about to flip full ethno-nationalist.
HAHAHAHAHA
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>>532428811
It's the other way around mutt. Your hard power was backed by soft power but mutts have become too low IQ to understand this
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>>532415757
The US leaving NATO would guarantee Russian/Chinese invasion of Eastern European NATO members. Perhaps not immediately, but inevitably. The USSR was able to rival the combined Europe + colonies + USA for a time. Picking off Europe alone is very possible (especially with how our leaders have weakened our nations). We aren't energy independent, and have totally deindustrialised. It would/will take decades to get Europe into a state we could even begin to mount a Total War.
Europe's political class genuinely believed their propaganda: we reached the end of history, people are interchangeable, right-wing = bad, building things is dirty so lets become dependant on China for it, etc.
Perhaps you're unknowingly right: only the consequences of Total War being upon Europe will shake us awake from the fantasy our politics have been living in.
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>>532416315
>all the cuck euro countries have to spend a certain amount of money on US equipment
There's no requirement for them to do that, it's why Germany's defense industry is so strong.
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>>532415645
usa has finalized open agreement with Russia back on alaska
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KILL ALL MUTTS. europe + china + canada we can invade US and rape all their worthless women to death while genociding their fat worthless subhuman NIGGER KIKE-LOVING tranny men
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>>532430510
you won't do shit :)
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>>532415645
After everything trump has done, I am not surprised if europe turns away.
Still have no idea what happened with the ukraine war, that might be somethung as well.

Trump has made it very clear, that he considers us his enemy every step of the way, else I would have instantly opposed this.
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>>532430412
nobody will invade europe, you will be nuked with hypersonic missiles

you still live in 19 century in steampunk age
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>>532430165
Australias becoming a jeet colony we wish it was the chinks, at least they wouldn't be trying to rape underage women and shitting on the streets.

Australias more white than America, you mutts are cooked and beyond saving
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>>532425543
>the funny thing about all this euro sperging is they can't replace our arms
Well, your overpriced missiles failed to shoot down cheap temu drones and your stealth completely bypassed by infrared tracking. It doesn't reply inspire confidence in your arms industry any more.
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>>532425543
>Not like India and china is going to be buying Au-ACK
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>>532430731
Britain alone has +200 nuclear warheads, more than enough to wipe out Russia and China. No one is going to nuke because of this. Combined Russia and China can probably take Europe in a conventional war if there's no outside support for Europe. Europe won't nuke first, so why risk the MAD when you could win a non-nuclear war?
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>>532415645
>>I think the US will be leaving NATO very soon
lol jews renouncing their tens of billions they rape from europe
>Iran made deals with jew-led cuntries, France first. I can believe they are so stupid, yes.
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Europe should have normalized relations with Iran long long time ago, instead they time and time again did politics for the benefit of Israel while doing every detrimental move to themselves..
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hope USA leaves NATO so can also close all the bases then, they can put their bases in Israel, that's what matters after all
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>>532415645
USA will betray the entire world just to serve their precious jewish rats, what a joke of a country
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>>532435329
>parasites leaving their hosts
will never happen
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'Biologicals'? Does he mean 'people'? Which is a shorter word that leaves no doubt as to what is meant by it?
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>>532425015
>Everyone who visits Europe that I know complains about the lack of food
You know we are living amazing times when even american dirt poor trailer trash can visit Europe. What a time to be alive!
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>>532429291
Correct. America is dead but even its zombified corpse will cease operating once the boomer parasites animating it die off.
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>>532430165
>America is the last hope for the West.
this is what amerilards unironically believe
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>>532420867
russia is providing jran with shaheds and targeting information to kill your soliders lmao
you are so pathetic to that you keep thinking russia is going to buddy up with you auddenly after all that youve done
we are at a point were you betrayed and antagonized pretty much everyone in the world one way or another
nobody wants to cooperate with the US in anything
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>>532415645
Good.
The American Empire is the reason we have Muslims and niggers in our countries.
Divide and rule is their bread and butter.
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>>532415757
>Europe needs to submit to Iran to be a real power
Weird flex but okay
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As if Trump will just let them do that? We will align with Russia and take over the world.
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>>532425757
>When 20% of your nations GDP is autos and the primary export for them is USA
The primary export is China.
By a 300% difference with North America (aka the USA and Canada combined).
And emerging markets like India, are cumulatively catching up to the NA region as well.

See e.g. >>532431443 for Audi's 2024-2025 numbers.
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The US is our vassal, protecting us entirely for free while we live out our lavish lives. They're spending billions on us for our defense while Americans work 60h a week with no holidays or healthcare. They are our slaves and it's proven in the fact that they can never leave NATO. Look at how they've been crying about how NATO is a one-way deal and begging us for help in Iran but we will never lift a finger for them while they will protect us, lol! Maga is all bark, if they could leave they would have left ages ago, but no. Americans do whatever we tell them to.
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>>532415645
>These nations have closed their airspace

You know, I've been wondering exactly what these nations would do if the US just ignored them and flew through their airspace anyway? I doubt they'd actually go so far as to attempt to shoot down American aircraft. So if they won't shoot them down, then what's stopping us from just telling them "fuck you" and flying through their airspace?
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>>532440320
This isn't just limited to cars either. The US is a dying economy on the whole.
Its GDP already cannot sustain its national debt. Treasury income is at less than one eighty the nation's outstanding obligations. If the US were run as a business, it would've faced foreclosure years ago. But it's not - it's a nation. So instead, you get this surreptitious slipping into irrelevance instead. As everyone slowly cuts their losses and bails out.

It's the "Fall of Rome" doctrine, and the current generation of Americans will probably see it happen in their lifetime.
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>>532440540
Violating a closed airspace is an act of war. Pretty sure the US wouldn't want to risk triggering NATO Article 5 on them when the US's budget is already blown on fighting just Iran.
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>>532440869
Yes, legally. However, as a matter of practicality, would NATO nations really push the issue? Or would they just cuck to the US again in order to avoid political and economic instability that would be caused by getting into a military confrontation with the US?
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>>532415645
Bridgen knows nothing. no one with actual knowledge is sending him messages. he is in some retard osint telegram group full of larpers and nafo-nonces. everyone knows he is not credible and so wouldn't use him to get proper intel out.
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>>532415952
he means this segment is sponsored by Prime™



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