Why do leftists hate AI so much?
they know they are talentless and easily replaceable, since leftism is an ideology populated exclusively by dysgenic mutants
>>532451247It can make degenerate porn for a fraction of cost thus making them unemployed.
>>532451247The right, for all their talk about pulling themselves by their bootstraps and working hard, never took the time to learn how to draw.
>>532451247Look at /pol/ and tell me which side uses AI more.
>>532451247I've noticed it's mostly White Europeans and Japanese that heavily oppose AI art meanwhile Jeets pollute social media with shitty AI art. I personally oppose it because AI looks all the same and is just as soulless as corporate slop art
>>532451247AI isn't art. It only requires an idea. Art requires an idea and execution.
>>532451247Because they know AI content can be better than anything they could possibly make. Compare that Star Wars video of Anakin becoming Darth Vader to anything Disney has released.
>>532452294Art is the experience that a human has with any given piece, I can give any AI piece artistic meaning by having a human interaction and connection with it
AI anything is like clip art from 20 years ago, it works but you can tell it's cheap
>>532452294t. has never actually produced something with AI
>>532451247The second panel is wrong. TVs in 1995 were analogue, not digital. You might more accurately caption panel 2 "Electro slop".
>>532452511>I can give any AI piece artistic meaningKek, you typed in a prompt faggot. It is not that deep.
AI art is lacking in context which inherently makes it less interesting.
>>532451247Because leftoids worship jewshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gP5D7d2rVbE
>>532451441Literally the only thing I'll accept AI slop for.Porn is alright. It'll kill the slut industry. I'm not saying Porn itself is alright, but if anything is okay to be AI slop, its porn.
>>532452685Yeah but neither are humans so
https://youtube.com/shorts/Q8QCl5-A9lE?si=JIFtoHnGcI8ID0Ya
Why does AI slop always have a brown piss filter?
>>532451247It looks bad and all the same, like your gay little "ghibli" filter.
>>532451247What do you mean? Hard leftists love it because they think it will level tge playing field for browns
tell me this isn’t art. ultimately, it’s the concept that matters, the execution is just a method of delivering the concept
>>532452294Ai art is art that wouldn't exist if not for Ai. Sounds like you just don't like art, you like money, status and gatekeeping. If that's what you like more power to you but I'm sure there were scribes that had similar thoughts about the printing press.
>>532451247Because it exposes them. Real artists are in no way threatened by AI, but real artists are in short supply these days. People who can paint, or sculpt, or make aesthetic, civilizational tier art like what patrons used to commission historically. The leftoid “artists” being threatened are the ones using digital tools to draw corpo slop trash for gig jobs because they’re too fat, gay, and lazy to get a real job, and too shitty of artists to be commissioned or to independently market themselves. They occupy the perfect zone of mediocrity ripe for automation, and now they’re crying about it like little faggots.
>>532451247AI is literally useless and is wasting tons of resources on trash ,we've had image ai generation for a couple of years now and all we've got put of it are lame comics
>>532451247It's not that they hate AI itself, they hate that the creative output of nearly every person on earth, to varying degrees, was used without permission and is being resold for private profit without any form of compensation given to the true creators whose intellectual property is encoded in the weights of an AI matrix.AI is in essence a highly efficient compression algorithm that uses a correspondence between advanced mathematics and human-like intelligence to add compression efficiency to what is basically the modern version of winzip's maximum compression.
>>532451247>collectivize the world's computer hardware and use it produce shit that sucksThe real question is why don't leftists love AI?
AI is only good for porn and nothing else. It’s the one industry want to see get replaced
>>532453040AI art is "art" that wouldn't exist if not for the art it's taking from.
Because they don't understand everything here is Inteliggence Interfacing. Ltd ability to think, jealousy.They think Advanced Intelligence destroyed art, or stole creativity from the world... art is expression not for profit endeavour and they ironically think artists will lose pay! lolCreativity is in abundance on all fronts, and best kind will inspire AI and vice versa, colabotative experience is creativity. They don't understand that they can still do their shit, noone is stopping them, and just like they can so can other Inteliggence Interfacing as well.They fail to make room for others and always demand others make room for them, like all extremists do, always.
>>532451247Because leftism is founded upon the labor theory of value, and AI stands in direct opposition to that basic socioeconomic worldview.
>>532451247They are so creatively bankrupt they can't compete with a machine. Stanley Kubrick and David Lynch films are better than anything AI, theirs and all of modern Hollywood's isn't
>>532453125Haha so what, commie retards are suddenly staunch proponents of intellectual property rights and don’t want to share anymore?
Film wasn't used in 1835
>>532453017it is art, but you can't tell me it wouldn't be better if it had been done with a human hand with a unique styleThe human part makes it good, the machine learning fancy-average execution is what makes it slop
>>532451247“Why do leftists hate AI” threads are spammed daily on /pol/ by AI company shills who are trying to seed the idea that all right wingers should be politically invested in the success of AI (and its companies).They know that sentiment has turned against AI since it’s making everything more expensive and flooding the internet either slop. So this is their last ditch effort to manipulate stupid people into supporting it reflexively: because no matter how much your RAM or your water or your electricity goes up in price, [insert group you don’t like] will be pissed off by it, so it’s actually based!
>>532451247it's the same mentality as #metoo & #blacklivesmatter and all the rest of it: people who like to point fingers and pass judgment even though they have no real world power or comprehension.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OHQRo3Uz_VQ&pp=0gcJCdkKAYcqIYzv&ra=m
>>532453324Sure but the advantage of AI is accessibility. The real analogue isn’t art but patronage; historically if you wanted your vision brought to life but couldn’t or wouldn’t spend decades becoming an artist yourself, you’d have to commission artists to do it for you. That was something only the wealthiest people could afford, and still was until AI. Now for a low cost (sometimes free), anyone can bring their artistic visions to life with reasonable accuracy. The alternative to this isn’t even employing some faggot leftists anyway. If I had no choice but to pay someone to generate what I want I’d just outsource to Asia and pay some flip five bucks. Either way no fat faggot leftoid in the West is getting my money to make shit, so they can fuck off.
>>532453190Same can be said for all art. I was a graphic designer in the late 90s early 00s and I'll just tell you you're making the same ham fisted arguments as people back then did against photoshop>you're just using a REAL artists art>there's no skill you're just pushing pixels>it's soulless>it's slopYour arguments are old and tired and you don't even believe them.
>>532451247This is really cringe. Good job.
>>532451247Because it's soulless and ugly and can use 1 or 2 styles and it all looks like the same shit. Would you want to live in a world where your home is constructed by Lego blocks and everything you own is in the style of Lego? Fuck no. That's the issue. It's slowly getting there, but it's not there yet. Did you like the first iteration of Will Smith eating spaghetti? Might've been a bit funny, but did you LIKE IT in terms of ART? Would you have liked more of it to be featured in media? Of fucking course not. And that's all. If it becomes good and consistent enough nobody's going to care. It's currently undergoing its growing pains period and this is the worst part. It's gonna take another 5-10 years minimum, until it becomes good enough. Just look at the example you posted. Another Ghibli slop, cause that's the only thing it was reliably trained on.
>>532453480holy fuck you sound brownget raped
>>532451247>Present thing not bad because past things happenedMan, is this the universal argument style of retards or something?
>>532451370Because the right wing are known for their prolific film/art output right?
ai is jewish
>>532453544and art is worse than everyou just made the krautbro's point for him
>>532453696You sound obese.
>>532451247Human supremacy, jeet. You wouldn't understand.
>>532453774go back to india
>>532453765Jews are based, so what?
>>532452511>Art is the experience that a human has with any given piece, I can give any AI piece artistic meaningYeah, and most humans view AI's artistic meaning as slop. The "human art experience" has spoken.
>>532453751Classical art (real art) is “right wing” by modern standards. And even historically it was right leaning civilizations that produced the best art and aesthetics, up to and including Nazi Germany itself. What you’re talking about is post 60s narcissistic art which exists exclusively to pander to niggers, women, and angsty rebellious faggots. Since jews control most entertainment media this is now all they fund so you’ve come to associate “art” with leftism or liberalism when in reality the trash that has passed for art for the last 70 years (worsening as it went) doesn’t qualify as art historically at all.
You're all shitskins. Environmentally destructive jeets who suddenly dicovered they could do more damage enabling kikes at creating water siphoning AI data centers than throwing batteries into the ocean. It is also painfully obvious that the majority of the responses here are copied and pasted from a chatbotAI could never replicate something like pic related, something that comes from the human soul in which you jeets obviously do not have>inb4 some shitskin asks chatgpt for a counterargument for my post
>>532451247To some degree I like it, I like free and open source models and I think that is what we should be supporting.I don’t like the obscene levels of corruption and manipulation behind these massive AI and tech companies who are actively stealing wealth and resources from the rest of society to basically fuel ultimately useless boondogles that will ultimately blow up in OUR faces while they keep all the money. I also dislike how it is blatantly being used as an attack vector against the middle classes (working class already has zero wealth) in order to justify squeezing them even harder, denying them work or proper payment under the guise of illusive AI efficiency which often just boils down to scab labour.When it comes to AI art, I understand the feelings of artists but I don’t care that much since imo human art will always have value and I care more about economics than creativity. As far as im concerned some nerd making AI porn is harmless and attacking them misses the broader issue, which is why the entire conversation is constantly refocused towards AI art and copyright.
>>532453040Sure, it's art. It's very low quality and universally hated art.
>>532453884You really think a jeet would even understand anything I was talking about? You Americans are getting really retarded these days. I’ve noticed “you’re brown” is now the American catch all response to everything here. What a dysgenic bunch of mutts.
>>532454000Ameribvlls should have DRESDENED.com it into rubbles
>>532453949Name five "real" artists and one of their works without looking it up
>>532451441you're right you know
>>532454097Fuck off. Statistically speaking, you are most likely from IndiaBut good art isn't easy. It is the literal product effort and struggle, and not being a low IQ poor personKeep crying
>>532453926yup this is the epstein board. enjoy hell kikedemons.
anti-ai fags who hate ai because it's a lazy shortcut would never go to the library instead of using google, grow their own food instead of buying it at the store, make their own clothes instead of.... you get the idea. just neo-luddites who will be forgotten by time
>>532454000Water use is a stupid argument, the real argument who owns the electricity generation in your country and who profits.In many countries electricity is privately generated and owned, companies have zero obligation to sell to you at a reasonable price if there is more demand, likewise they have no incentive to massively scale up energy production to meet rising demands as that cuts into their profits.So capacity stays the same (it basically has since the mid 2000’s) and prices go up due to usage spikes, but who pays for this? You do either directly or through government subsidies which lower the direct cost but increase your overall tax burden and national debt meanwhile the private enterprises keep all the profit.
>>532451247>Magic box do thing>Nigger confused by magic>Confusion gets expressed as angerit's literally that simple.
>>532454244Kikes won you are just cattle.Total Kike Supremacy
>>532454071So is modern art. You brought it upon yourself. People are so starved for real art that they're resorting to generating it themselves instead of paying you thousands of dollars to smear period blood and mustard on a canvas. Can't say I blame them.
>>532451247because it’s lazy and it’s wasting our water for cooling the data centers.Gen x and Boomers think it’s the future but it’s taking away autonomy online
>>532454130I’m not an autistic trivia sperg. Just go to any museum, watch any old movie. Watch some of Hitchcock’s best movies and compare them to modern Hollywood. Listen to any classical musician or composer and compare it to modern nigger music. Look at any historical building aesthetic and compare it to brutalism or modern architecture. Read Tolkien and compare it to modern stories. This shit is very obvious to anyone with eyes and a brain. Leftists are responsible for modern angsty and rebellious forms of art which came to dominate our markets because they were easier to sell as consumer goyslop. The age of art for civilizational and mythic sake ended a long time ago.
>>532454226I’ve never been talking about good art at any point. Good art hasn’t and probably can never be replaced by AI, only generic corpo slop that fat retarded leftoids produce can be replaced by AI. You’d understand this if you weren’t a fat American, and if you had an IQ over 50. There’s a good chance we actually agree on fundamentals but you’re just too stupid to even understand the argument.
>>5324512471. It often looks very soulless as it just parses lots of other art / photos to make a mix.2. It's made by super rich people and largely based upon scraping everything off the internet in efficient ways with no ways to opt out of.3. It removes a demand for lesser artists which creates the problem that it becomes harder to work yourself up the ranks and become a master which might lead to less artists in general.4. It follows the AI boom making RAM and GPU's very expensive to pump out the slop. Due to the way Capitalism works there'll be tons of speculative money pumped into this even if it's not making money. This means we have to eat slop because Sam Altman has convinced enough corporats that AGI is around the corner and we'll all become addicted to the slop enough to monetize heavily once monopoly is achieved.As an artist myself who work in the game industry I mostly dislike how it devalues art and makes people more schizo about what's genuine or not but it also makes me feel better about my unique style. Overall I'm not against AI and it's already done great stuff in medicine so maybe at some point it becomes a cool tool but right now it's in a stage where I feel pretty good about not touching it. Def perfect tools for normies wanting to make memes or whatnot and much like before if you wanna make something of value in art you have to make something unique and personal enough which was already the goal. I feel super bad for Ghibli though. Can't look at those classics without thinking of the rape that style has been subjected to.
>>532454289>Water use is a stupid argumentUnironically stopped reading right there my Taiwanese denying fren
>>532451247I am nazi and i hate AI. It’s not art, it’s garbage and further destruction of western culture.
>>532454474>So is modern art. You brought it upon yourself.This. I 100% guarantee if artists could paint what what painters around 18-19th century could, they wouldn't be automated away. They couldn't.
>>532454474>So is modern art.Sure, so they're both examples of shit trash art. Stellar counterargument.
>>532454604AI totally ruined Deviantart. The prompts are the most generic fantasy, D&D trash designs ever. It used to be dumb kids making folk art but it’s completely flooded with boring stuff
>>532454678Okay, I can agree with that, but you're still an Indian.
>>532453544Parallels from the last do not refute criticisms and observations of the present. Tardo.
>>532453769Then why should I care if computers replace them? So we went from>only human artist goodTo>actually human artist bad anywayI actually agree with the second so the next logical conclusion is replace them
>>532451370/thread
>>532454783Of course not. The reality is that there is virtually no talent in modern art. Modern artists only seem talented because the average person has zero artistic talent. But compared to the composures, architects, authors, etc of the past, modern artists are a joke. It’s because everything now is just generic consumer trash. Art historically has religious or civilizational significance. If you were going to commission a great work it had to actually mean something. Now “art” is just another form of dopamine drip for the masses to mindlessly consumer, so of course it’s going to be generic, talentless trash. They’re just mad that AI automated their McDonals tier goy trash.
>>532451247It isn't about being left or right dumbass. It's a money sink that will cause yet another economic crisis, that's why. Not even saying it's totally useless. But it will not make the money needed to recoup what these idiots are currently wasting. By far.
>>532453040Welcome to capitalism you chuddie fuck.
Americans live under the existential dread of a clanker replacing them and sending them to bankruptcy. They wouldn’t act like this if the bottom 90% didn’t live paycheck to paycheck.
>>532454744How does AI use water? Because of cooling or it’s use in energy generation? This has always been a nonsesne argument for dumb people to latch on to as it has zero real conclusion besides deindustrialization I guess?The bigger issue is who owns the energy, not how it is used.
>>532454996Just say you don’t follow any contemporary artists next time anon. The best art is being made as we speak, you’re just too lazy to find it
>>532452511No. Art is also an expression of human skill and creativity. Thats why a landscape painting is art and the landscape isn't. AI doest create art in that sense.
>>532453544All you've succeeded in doing is demonstrating that a lot of your faggy graphic design isn't art either.
>>532454898>parallelsIt's the same thing bro. I lived it. It's the same argument 20 years transposed. You're just too young to know that we've all had this conversation before and collectively decided that your side is retarded.
>>532452294All art is, is expression. Anyone saying you can't be an artist because you used AI is gatekeeping.
>>532451247We need more AI datacenters.
>>532455202ai isnt taking jobs from the bottom 90% though
>>532455287Water use is a stupid argument because its the corporations not the ai.Imagine hating food because it takes land to grow.Why do we need 5 different conpanies developing ai, oh right because its whoever can make the most money first and not for whatever retarded reason normies think
>>532455382Photoshop is ubiquitous. My argument is you will find no artist that bitches about photoshop the way they did 20 years ago. And in 20 years you'll find no artist bitching about AI the way you're bitching about Ai right now.
>>532455382AI is art, it’s just very gayWhen it’s trained on isis beheadings and gore videos people will love it again
>>532455480Oh no Who will think about those poor middle managers?
>>532455511Ai art really just needs to get over the uncanny and that fucking gloss hurdle
>>532451247>digital slop>film slopThis is true, though. Modern films are absolute garbage and practical effects will always be better than CGI.
>>532455544Most of the jeet hate is ai art. And /b/ has hourly ai cp threads so plenty of degens love it already
>>532454725>sovlessSir, my work is full of sovl.
>>532455202what a gay time to be alive
>>532451247All 4 points there are true. Accepting slop over and over again is how we got here accepting even more slop now.
>>532455686Why do jeets keep making these kinds of claims?Everyone hated you just fine without China, Pakistan (same thing), or AI art
>>532451247LUDDITES LOST, ARTRANNIES LOSTAIGODS WON
>>532455398>It's the same thing bro.No it isn't. >I lived it. It's the same argument 20 years transposed. Parallels from the past do not refute criticisms and observations of the present.>You're just too youngYou're just wrong.
>>532455861>ur a jeetSit down and lurk more newfag retardIm talking about the people making the overflowing poop ai gifs
>>532452365Watched it, pretty good desu, the voice lines were flat though. God I hate AI, but man I like that we're in a timeline where any anon with enough know-how can make this stuff without the massive budgets and subsequent wokie shit of the big studios. Power to the people an allthat
>>532455959>t. 20 year old newfaggot who thinks he knows everythingCertified oldfag here (2016)You're too young
>>532456045I only wish people would stop calling it ai.What we have is closer to mass effect's virtual intelligence (VI)>https://masseffect.fandom.com/wiki/Virtual_Intelligence
>>532451247I'm the opposite of a leftist faggot. Nevertheless:Stupid and wrong analogy. Painting were made by actual human beings who at least thought once about what they paint. Mostly you have even more. A story, a concept. A photography or "film" like in the picture is just the copy the lens "saw". (i know it's not the lens itself, the mechanics of making photos are not just looking through a lens). It's a perfect copy of what the photographer saw, using the camera. The digital concept of the Pic is wrong too. Digital versions of analog media is another, new, layer of data interpretation of the previously named analogue "film" (which is by the way the wrong term for analog photography).You used a leftist meme pic (it's concept is misleading in the beginning with false analogies and leadings) and are to stupid to get it.
>>532451247Leftists don't hat AI. They just pretend to hate AI.
>>532455287Yes you fucking insect AI data centers consume over millions of gallons each day which not only causes a heavier demand on the municipalities but also strain on the infrastructure which they will then have to also raise prices. Also it's cute that one low iq jeet is agreeing with you :)
>>532456387Disingenuous like always, the lefties.
>>532451247Dont care. Still slop. Lole
>>532456285All germoid scum are butthurt about AI gegWe won, browns won, Russia won. 1945, piggy
>malaun are so malding that they accuse others of being them
AI is art
>>532454604I have not been to that website in a coons age
>>532456560BasedTrans women are women too, right?
>>532453751>no uYou lost
>>532453751I don't need art because the world is beautiful as it is.Leftoids need it as a form of escapism because reality terrifies them.To leftists, art is to deny existence.
>>532456387>>532456447Are the lefties in the room with us?
>>532456593Are you genuinely trying to imply that troons support AI?
>>532454604unironically that shit is where AI lacking sovl is the most noticableyou'll never see an AI create shit like those fully delitized images
>>532451247They can correctly see that it places the arts and the media even further under the control of big business, and this pisses them off because they can't be certain those businesses will keep promoting leftist propaganda, or it pisses them off because there will be fewer jobs in creating this kind of content. Is there any way that AI art could actually make it easier for regular people to make a living by producing art, or that it could actually make it harder for a small number of big media businesses to control the whole industry?
>>532451247AI is incredible perceptive to things other then what you think you are saying. they get busted and know it so they don't use it or can't use it because they have nothing to build or gain from it and ai generally tries to steer away from being your sycophantic psycho justifyer parrot so they hate it
>>532456772Woosh!
AI could not create something as cool as wojak. VCs and right wingers have the aesthetic senses of a 13 year old. You guys would listen to Taylor Swift for the rest of your life and not complain
>>532456823>dogfuckerStop sloppropriating my culture
Furries are mad people aren’t paying 500 dollars for pictures of wolf dicks
I'm a painter and the AI art doesn't bother me. But using chatGPT to communicate is going to atrophy people's brains and create generations that literally can't think for themselves and instead have to choose their ideas from chatbot generated options.
>>532456823wish stuff like this was more popular but instead every furfag website is just full of humanoid dog women and shit and its just fucking weird man. i think furfags are retarded or something they have this obsession with uncanny humanoids vaguely styled like animals
>>532456763>I don't need artyou're a legitimate subhuman
>>532451247Monsters Inc came out in 2001
>>532451370That's bordeline magical thinking
>>532457094Real talk, artists are mad because ai artists are charging the same prices as them, for cheaper work. Its retards getting mad at retards. I can understand that, nobody likes an undercutting faggot.If ai artist can make more for less, then wouldnt it be smarter to also charge less in order to attract customers that cant afford 'real art' and thus make more money more quickly.Because that's what it is at the end of the day. We dont have any more van gogh's or michael angelo's. Manual artists are doing art instead of a real job, ai artists are doing art instead of a real job. Ai artists are just acting liketrannies, trying to gorce themselves into a space thats honestly impractical. But they gotta 'own' the manual artists
>>532455495Yea but plenty of idiots will make that same argument about land use rather than the real argument of who owns the land
>>532452511Prompting :masterpiece: is connectionless. You're literally using another persons skill to have a machine generate an image for you.
>>532457165You painting for yourself, or painting for money?That's the difference in all of this, imo
>>532453122there is more than just image generation and (you) yes (you) could use it for something great or even just use the image generation to make something constructive even if it is from your own demented and ignorant take. Go get a coding agent and have it make you a program to track the publicly available financial date on senate and congress members to look for insider trading or something...the AI does it for you and you're over bitching that some else hasn't had the AI do it for them..for you.lazy ass
>>532456823>>532457193I too wish Fren Computer would stop putting mascara on non-humans.
>>532457574Im too old for this shit.Getting into ai, i dont even know, for practical purposes l wont ever understand like flipping stocks and shit
>>532451247Those other three are strawmen.
Artfag seethe over being among the first idiots to be replaced will never not be funny.
>>532451247As soon as you can see that somebody has used AI for anything creative, you can safely ignore anything they say or do because they obviously don’t have the talent or confidence to make something with their own two hands.
this thread again
If chuds can't make art without using AI or using a wholesome chungus aesthetic (Like Stonetoss), maybe rightiods are the inferior people after all. They all go on about how leftoids are dysgenetic but they can't even create a simple art piece let alone make any actual consequent media.
>>532457614the BREAK function is supposed to separate prompts into different parts but it didnt work that well for me but could help if you dont use it
>>532451247>4chan shill>loves botsmakes sense
>>532457749protip if you want to be able to learn again like a child you have to take psychedelic drugsthe cost is you forget things you already know but that stuff is generally a waste of space anyway. unless the new stuff you "learn" is an even bigger waste because you just use it to be a degenerate
>>532458035reddit level intellect right here
>>532452294I can take a shit and call it artYou are out of a jobput the fries in the bag
>>532456045People don't understand how powerful that too IS. Jews used media to brainwash the left, to insert political messages into films for no reason. Like almost every single film that Jews touch. Once you know what to look for, it's fucking everywhere.Now the goyim can do this too or release ai investigations into what kind of propaganda was inserted and unnoticed forever so that normies can truly see how focused and petty the Jewish community is and that movies they love even aren't to be trusted anymore. Why? Coz Jews, they need economic expulsion. Assets seized during every Rico investigation of every temple. Jesus energy, leave the house of my father stuff
>>532458298>protip if you want to be able to learn again like a child you have to take psychedelic drugssounds ridiculous. I'm learning art atm instead of ai art. AI prompting and set up just seems 'too big' to me and thats why I don't bother.
>>532453751When was the last time you saw the left meme?
>>53245851850 year old ass man posts about what about the memes
>>532454593>retarded tradLARPer only watches capeshit/IMDB top 10 slop and thinks modern films are terrible because of this>can't even name a single one of the artists he pretends to loveYou are a fucking poser. You know absolutely nothing about art.
>>532451441and yet the Republican part is filled with rapists and sociopaths
>>532456644Lost what? I'm not the one with delusions about the political leanings of 99% of the art world
>>532451247>1995>Monsters Inc.They could've easily used Toy Story
>>532458425>sounds ridiculous. kek ok your loss>I'm learning art atm instead of ai art. AI prompting and set up just seems 'too big' to me and thats why I don't bother.well if youve never done anything with art then yeah setting up stable diffusion is probably kinda out of your league because not only do you have to think creatively like an artist but you have to understand the most advanced technology for it
>>532452764eh? anon, I don't know how to tell you this
>>532456066>(2016)Absolute newfag, lmao
>>532451247Because it democratises art creation to anyone with these tools, if anyone can make art then anyone can mark high quality and beautiful art. Leftism wants to force anyone with even a modicum of talent to only produce ugly slop. Notice that leftist "art" never looks like anything anyone would actually pay money for, it exists to insult the eye, to pollute the landscape, to degrade civilisation. It is "artistic" vomit designed to either confuse or disgust the viewer. AI art actually allows you to make beautiful classic-style paintings and share aesthetic art styles with the public. We are no longer forced to live in a world where the entire culture industry is dominated by leftism.
>>532457573>>532457510It's not my job. It makes enough money that it pays for the hobby basically - so you are right, I'm in a WAY different boat than people who make a living doing digital art.I love art and value it greatly. I'll be honest though - I dont find digital art particularly meaningful, even when it's really well done, compared to even an amateurish painting where the effort and expression of the artist is more tangible.Yeah, it's kind of sad that logos and digital graphics will be AI generated instead of subject to the brute force evolutionary process of human innovation. But at some level I see it as "new tool makes a former industry obsolete" - something that has happened and will continue to happen forever. The thing that grosses me out is people forgetting how to reason, make decisions, and process information for themselves.
>>532458815woosh!
>>532458866aye, I'm doing art for myself and working a real jobif you can make money from art incidentally, then great! but if you're unironically trying to live off art and commisions, it's understandable why artists are mad but at the same timemaybe get a real job and learn to budget your time.
>>532451247Leftists all view themselves as artists in some ways. Which is ironic because if you look at any art done in the last 25 years you'll see boring empty soulless garbage. And yet they have the nerve to call AI slop. Id rather have AI slop than corporate boardroom approved art who's only purpose is to not offend a handful of people. Its normal to be hesitant of AI and the unknown future of it but any time you see some fag screeching about AI you know it's a limp wrist leftist
Everyone is against AI, but nobody here is an artist
>>532459072>Id rather have AI slop than corporate boardroom approved art who's only purpose is to not offend a handful of people.>>corporate boardroomwho the fuck is making AI you fucking retard? AI one day didn't just pop up on some Degens computer one day. AI is the corporate own and created goy slop to consume
>>532451247You really are a hopelessly low iq. All of those things beside the AI were done by humans using tools. AI isn't a tool, it's a randomized plagiarism machine. It's nothing like the other examples because it doesn't have a human wielding it, nor it creates anything. >Inb4 muh promptSaying that prompting is "using" a tool it's like saying telling a slave "paint" is you making a painting. No, the slave is the author. And the LLM plagiarizing machine is the author of the randomized rehash, not you.Try to develop a brain before posting next time, nigger
itt 99% talking about ARTwho gives a fuckliterally the least relevant use for AI out there
>>532459443Imagine being this stupid.
>>532451247Why do istists ism so much ? your pathetic nuspeak disgusts me.
AI is only useful for drones
>>532459443Yes youre right. But seeing leftists screech and lose their jobs gives me great joy. The world in 2026 is a fucking clown show, except the bread is stale and the clowns are trannys raping kids. It can only get worse before it gets better so I couldn't care less about what happen with AI. Bring on ww3, bring on the great depression, and massive famine. I long for an eternal sleep away from all of this meaningless nonsense.
>>532459478Explain without sounding mad how is this any different from a cellphone camera doing a ton of post processing without any user input without which the pictures would come out as a blurry mess.I've still yet to hear a coherent argument regrading how is AI fundamentally different than plethora of other widely accepted digital tools.
>>532451247AI slop is terrible, man. In any other medium, you'd expect reproducibility.If a caveman can paint a horse, he can paint a thousand horses. If a camera can take a dim-lit picture, it can take a thousand dim-lit pictures. If a 3d program can render a figure at a certain complexity, it can render thousand figures of that complexity.But your state-of-the-art ai model can produce a near perfect, say, bowl of fruit, but butchers producing its contents individually to the point you'd wonder if the first produced bowl of fruit weren't just copied and pasted from somewhere (it wasn't, it's just that there isn't any complete understanding of what goes inside that black box we call AI machines.)In human context, we'd call that level of unreliability cheating because we expect reproducibility from intelligent systems or even man-made machines as the norm. This hit-or-miss bug / feature of modern LLMs doesn't make any sense to us, we don't have any precedent of something like this.
>>532451247Unlike digital art, computer graphics, film, photography, oil painting, watercolors, or cave art - generative AI *can* produce content without a corresponding degree of effort and skill. Modeling and skinning a character in Blender takes effort and skill. Animating a character by hand takes effort and skill. Shooting, developing, and editing film takes effort and skill. Painting takes effort and skill. But AI is at the point now where you can type something into a prompt window, wait for ten seconds, and get something okay-ish out.Now - that being said - *effective* use of AI still requires effort and skill. If you want to train your own model or even a LoRAS to modify output from an existing LLM, you still need to know how cultivation and training with data sets works, you need to gather or generate that training data in the first place, you need to train your model, test your model, refine your model, and ultimately apply it as part of a workflow. My computational physics group has started incorporating machine learning models into our investigations of fluid turbulence - comparing computational and quasi-analytic approximations to output generated by models trained on authentic experimental data. Doing it in a way that isn't just generating gibberish takes an obscene amount of effort and understanding both the fundamental physics involved, and the programming knowledge of how and why the models work and how to refine them.The problem, and the reason the 'slop' label has been earned, is that most low-effort content pushers are happy to take whatever error-ridden, okay-ish crap ChatGPT or Gemini or Sora or whatever shits out in ten seconds from a half-assed prompt. They *aren't* putting in effort, they're just making slop and cashing in on the first hundred or thousand people they can con before they get shut down. And this is being done on a *massive* scale to the point that it's actively burying human-generated content on most sites.
>>532460695This is literally the same argument that was made against photoshop back in the day. Oh, you no longer have to mix paints, it's skillless and soulless.
Yes, I can’t wait for the future where all media is low effort AI generated garbage created by jeets. Blockbuster releases that are even more generic and half baked than the crap we get now. Games that are even more unoptimised and bland than the dogshit we see today. Internet full of even more garbage and bots, to the point that it’ll probably be completely unusable before the end of the decade.Not to mention the added benefit of not being able to afford groceries or rent, because the inevitable market crash will wipe out the economy soon. At least the sea of mass produced slip won’t seem so bad then. Thanks Sam Altman!
>>532451247Why do jeets love Ai so much?
>>532452294>They builded a tower to shiver the sky and wrench the stars apart, >Till the Devil grunted behind the bricks: "It's striking, but is it Art?" >The stone was dropped by the quarry-side, and the idle derrick swung, >While each man talked of the aims of art, and each in an alien tongue.
americans are mentally ill kikes
>>532453945NPCs aren't human though, slop is an NPC formed term.
>>532452294>paint isnt an art. It only requires an idea
>>532460921Using photoshop/gimp/digital art software effectively still requires talent and effort; you need to experiment to find what tools can reproduce particular traditional brush strokes or techniques, you still need to be able to draw - the programs don't draw for you. Many of the early criticisms against digital art quickly faded off once it became clear people were putting in effort to produce their art. Same with computer graphics, same with digital vs film, etc.The issue with AI right now is that 99% of the users posting content *aren't* making a comparable effort. For every high-effort programmer or VFX house that's actually making their own training data, building their own models, and incorporating it into their workflow as *one small part* of a process that involves other skills and other effort, there's 100,000 sloppers who are just punching in a prompt, taking the first thing that gets spit out, and posting it. Photoshop can be used to produce amazing works of art if someone with talent is willing to put in the extensive hours to do so. It can also be used to shit out a hundred thousand crappy stick figures a day with the hope that 0.1% of them will find someone willing to pay a buck for them. If a ton of people were doing this and it was burying content that artists were investing a lot of talent, time, and effort into working on, people would, rightfully, label it as stickslop.
>>532451370>they know they are talentless and easily replaceable, since leftism is an ideology populated exclusively by dysgenic mutantsno matter where they live
>>532451491They didn't?
>>532455446>We need more AI datacenters.true
>>532462119This was always the case, plenty of """digital artists""" for instance are very shit, and they were flooding sites like deviantart with their slop. AI just lowered the skill floor so that more people can produce shit slop, but also more people can produce something good as well. It's exactly the same with every other advance in technology. Printing press, digital art, photography. And each and every time there's a group of assmad subhumans who want to gatekeep art.
>>532451247It hits a lot of their virtue signaling checkpoints >bad for the environment (supposedly)>bad for their electricity bills>good for large corporations >bad for artists>popular opinion right now>something to bitch and moan about for potentially decades
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>>532451247AI art is a perfect analogy for racism.Rather than achieve something on your own, you simply take the easiest option that resembles your own achievement, without having to ACTUALLY do anything.> White people went to the moon? No no, WE went to the moon, not YOU! This is my achievement.> Look at this beautiful AI image of a sunflower, *I* made this, all by myself! This is my achievement.Of course pol loves AI, it's the exact same instant "bragging rights, just add being retarded" that they're used to. They won't achieve anything, but now they can act like they did easier than ever before.
>>532462540>AI just lowered the skill floor so that more people can produce shit slop, but also more people can produce something good as well.Sure, and the day most people doing stuff with AI are doing high effort stuff, will be the day people stop bitching about it - but we're not there.I don't have a fundamental problem with AI - from my own experience working with it, it has enormous potential... *if* you're putting in the effort, the hard work, and the toil to realize that potential. But very, very, VERY few content posters posting AI-generated content are.
someone spent real money on tokens to make this a few hours agoits based on this youtuber https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-q8kFEJBRFY
>>532463012Outright projection lmao. >everyone MUST be finding an excuse to be a vapid cunt like me
>>532463248these motherfuckers spend $$$ on tokens and AInot only that but you may have seen much more sockpuppetry on /pol/ motherfuckers are spending $$$ for software to change you IP every post, fucking psychopaths
>>532451247Everybody that isn't a jeet hates it because it's shit.
>>532462715>Implying ai powered healthcare would be destined to common folksOh you
>>532463657corndogs are a sandwich
>>532458621Sorry anon, but the furries paying 5x your regular commission rate can now make it for a fraction of the cost. >b-but republicansNot my problem, put the fries in the bag.
>>532453017Look at this garbage, it completely fucked up the original to make a reference to some post.
>>532462540>make ugly fuckin' slop, nobody wants it, people scream at you to stop giving it away for freeOnce again, gatekeeping is good
>>532458596If you mean he hasn't been reducated read indoctrinated at middle class and nigger sports daycare then yes. He's totally the one posing as someone who has done some actual real research and not been spoofed a product by their jew oppressors. Brother if you only knew you might kill yourself, but don't, because the best part of waking up ain't capitalism in your cup its realizing that things can change, the first step is realizing just how the world we live in has been set against us by those who would see us as more meat for the grinder.
>>532451247>waving hands dramaticallyYou guys know AI is the ultimate form of communism, right?
>>532464056>>waving hands dramaticallystay mad
>>532451247the problem is too much tech.
>>532451247>Souless STEMcel reveals his lack of inner substance by thinking that art is just another consoomable that can be made on the assembly line.Art by definition is the human use of skill and craft to convey ideas, emotions and beauty to others. To do something artfully is to do something well and with skill. A technology that takes 99 percent of all the skill,craft, and work other humans spent hours developing to make a soulless facsimile in a few seconds is not art and never will be. When I admire art, I'm admiring the human mind and soul that made it in a way only that particular individual brain could have made it. When I see AI slop, I see a shitty slurry of what thousands of pre-existing artists have made thrown into a blender with no consideration for what made the individual works it's based off of beautiful and why, because AI will never understand those things. Very rarely I've seen use of AI imagery as a mere component of a larger overall work that I found artistically meaningful and impressive, but it was the additional human elements put into the work that made it so, not the imagery itself. If you can't or don't want to understand these distinctions, you aren't white and are either Indian or spiritually jewish.
>>532464173>only bad artists are upset about aiwhy do germans always have the most retarded takes
>>532462119>>532462540For me, the best example of AI being used as a tool in a way that made me actually appreciate the crafting involved was the Clozzy video. Delving a little into the guy's creative process impressed me because it went way above and beyond the standard jeetslop and even corporate slop like that Christmas Coke advert.
>>532464291They're still seething over the collapse of the 'zuperior german engineerink' narrative over the last 15-20 years.
I like AI when it's carefully curated and honest about what it is.The problem is that too many people don't put effort into what they're generating. Like, for fuck's sake, just open up GIMP and edit out the extra fingers, quit reusing the same prompt over and over again, and stop trying to fool grannies on Facebook.Just don't content farm and practice some discretion.
>>532464253Excellent post/thread
>>532464106I'm into that shit.
>>532451247Paint slop should have never been tolerated.This was the beginning of the end.
>>532453751the moment you find out most ppl throughout history were conservative & leftism is a recent phenomena.
>>532451247why stupid people need strong daddy?
>>532451247Both AI and Art are mostly made by leftists. 95% of your favorite videogames, music, movies, visual art, and software including AI are all leftists.
>>532451247People complain about AI now. But think about 3 or 4 years from now where it will be ..
>>532452805AI porn got old. Nowadays, women have the right number of limbs and fingers and that's just boring. I miss the old days.
Completely braindead take. >A corporation takes your work, generalised it, sells it and gives you no cut.This is the foundational communist critique of capitalism not> don’t want to share anymore
>>532453765jews are jelly that their art is shit, out of spite they created the art machine to make real artists poor.
>>532453731>Man, is this the universal argument style of retards or something?Yes.
>>532451247>mind slopOP, that thought you just had was gay.
>>532451247Leftists are artists and musicians at a much higher rate than conservatives for two reasons, one bad which we need to fix, and one which is sort of unavoidable.Firstly, our culture emphasises productivity and social responsibility, so conscientious people will naturally go out and get a job, leaving little time to practice art, so conservatives spend less time on art than on other things. We ought to change this and try to get more people spending time on artistic pursuits.Secondly, and sort of the reverse, is the fact that most leftists are losers who sit around all day masturbating and playing guitar or drawing or writing stories, and not working. So .1% of them make it big and become cultural poisoners, while the rest remain bitter baristas and waiters who lead communist marches because they have failed at life.So anything that can replace their only way of ever making it is devastating. It would be like if we replaced NFL players with RC robots, niggers would have an absolute fit.
>>532451247>paint slopsaid no caveman ever.
>>532452805>one more kind of porn surely kills prostitutionwhy stupid people are like this?
>>532465101They're losing money hand over fist, they unironically can't afford to pay you a cut.
>>532451247> calls himself a "rightist"> shills for something more Jewish than a Chabad barmitzvah in BrooklynMy IQ just dropped 20 points reading your stupid post.
>>532451247I'm not a leftist, but I am a writer. I write technical and policy documents. I militantly hate AI. Why?1. It doesn't do cognitive tasks. The writing it produces is complete, total dogshit, because the LLMs don't understand the words or subjects people are prompting them to write on. The only reason a sizeable number of people think otherwise is because they are borderline illiterate, especially gen Z/alpha.When I review technical documents from other people, I can immediately tell when they ran it through and LLM because it functionally says nothing. This is also why spell/grammar checkers are not functioning correctly anymore; they were based on rules, but are now just based on the same trash tokenization LLMs use.2. The amount of energy/power/waste generated per slop is asinine. It's actually insane.3. It's theft; people's outputs are being scraped to "train" these programs and the people who created those things, copyrighted or no, get zero compensation for their IP. 4. It's making people retarded. There are several studies now that show even moderate LLM use can reduce neuron connections by 50% or more, and it homogenizes thought so that the users can't create things by themselves anymore, and what they do create is also slop similar to the LLM. Every time you use an LLM, you accrue cognitive debt. The other things in your shitty slop picture were new mediums or automated physical tasks. LLMs are the first ever technology that have tried to automate cognitive tasks. But since they can't actually do cognitive tasks, all they really do is generate slop and erode your cognitive functions, that you still need.Anyway, I could go on forever, but slop brains can't comprehend even basic ideas. Go ahead and become unemployable once AI bubble collapses. The billionaire Jews you constantly complain about are using this shit to lobotomize you.https://www.media.mit.edu/publications/your-brain-on-chatgpt/
>>532453324>brownoid doesn't know the definition of artlmao lol
>>532452294the problem is intention, ai art is soulless because there is no conscious design behind it, no thought or emotion behind every brush-stroke.
>>532465467Butlerian Jihad when?
>>532451370natural slection, real artists will stick to their craft because they enjoy the process & not only the end result they can parade around on the internet for likes.
>>532465638We must add that "AI" can't generate anything original. IT can only create randomized amalgamations of human work. You can weight the randomization with your prompt or through the engineering behind it, but without human created things to rip off, it can't produce anything. The proof of this is when you allow generative AI to train on its own output, the quality drops in a death spiral until it is unintelligible. If AI created anything, that wouldn't happen.
>>532451370wtf are you talking about, the most talentless, biggest shithole countries with the least amount of scientists and productive people are the giga shitholes in africa and the middle east.Meanwhile when you look at NVIDIA, Openai or any AI or advanced tech company and 95% of donate to dems.
>>532451247heres what ai was created for.
>>532465290It's not about making money at that level it's about advancing the agenda. Corporations which advance the agenda get freebees however much money they lose, paid for by money printer which is paid for by what people will do for money. Communism + Capitalism feed the same beast with different hands
>>532452543the good stuff was art.
>>532451247Liberalism is built upon a foundational fear of personal responsibility. Keeping up with new technology and constantly improving your skills to stay relevant in a changing world is a personal responsibility.
>>532452294I'm making my first video game and I'm using AI to help with anything I can. It's still a pain in the ass learning a game engine and how everything fits together. It is very much about execution, even when using AI
>>532454330/thread a tool is only as useful as the person holding it.
>>532451247Chat, what fallacy is the AI made slop?
>>532463869>making art for others instead of for your own enjoymentSure thing noarts>>532463076Most people in every medium produce low effort slop. You just ignore AI slop just as you would normal slop. I don't know what you do exactly that shows you tons of AI slop and didn't show much human slop before.
Cause it's fucking cringe. Why do rightoids insist it's so great?
>>532465638Mine looks better ans it took 5 seconds. Grift niggers in shambles because I can dowhat took them years to learn in seconds.
>>532466953>Why do rightoids insist it's so great?Because it makes leftists and trannies like (You) seethe.
>>532451247Shill post ai mechi disinfo you are like under larp
>>532466837>You just ignore AI slop just as you would normal slop. I don't know what you do exactly that shows you tons of AI slop and didn't show much human slop before.YouTube openly admits that as much as 25% of content uploaded to their site over the last couple years is 'slop' (not their term, of course) and that it's been exploiting aspects of its algorithms to preferentially get put on trending lists and recommendations regardless of anyone's particular preferences.
>>532465914emergent properties are a thing though. its not ixactly just a collage of what was before, there is some original synthesis taking place.
>>532452641It's referring to digital animation like monsters inc and toy story
>>532467237>emergent properties are a thing thoughEmergent behavior is a thing, but people are too willing to use it as an excuse or catch-all for situations that don't involve it.>its not ixactly just a collage of what was before, there is some original synthesis taking place*waves hand* Ehhh. It's hard to say. On the one hand you'll see stuff that doesn't particularly look like any of what it's been trained on, but on the other hand you'll see cases where it straight up slaps an existing artist's watermark or signature on a piece because it used a bunch of their work as core training material or LoRAs data. The jury is still out on how much 'original synthesis' can actually occur with large models.
>>532466978you have just outed yourself as a cultureless pleb. no composition of any sort, no colorpalette, no pose, no perspective, the brushstrokes arent brushstrokes at all.what you think is better about it is that it has a nice sunset, thats just your emotions reacting to a natural phenomenon, perhaps it reminds you of your dog also, it has nothing to do with the quality of the image. similar to how when arguing about ai the proponents just post attractive women next to conservative fine art still life & claim that theirs is better just ebcause it makes their dick twitch. classic pleb behaviour.
>>532467237This is not the case. Nothing original is happening. At best, you may be getting lucky cross-pollination between datasets. But it is 100% derivative.
>>532465254>Memeflag Lol
Ai is great for art, video, audio or music that serves a really specific niche, that no other person would take the time to do, but that you kind of still want to exist.I want a punk rock album full of covers of sega master system music.Nobody is going to create that, but I can gen it in an afternoon and have fun doing it.I want a scene from a movie but with my friends faces in it, using some in-joke that only went will get, so we can watch it and piss ourselves laughing.No real person is going to spend time on this. I would not pay somebody to spend time on this.Same stance on software piracy. I was never going to pay for it, so it's not a lost sale.
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>>532466978so you like orange & blue? you have fallen for the most basic vanilla colors the movie industry manipulates you unconsciously. its like saying you like cola because you see it associated with your favorite nigger ball team & its plastered all over the arena.
Rightoids are so stupid they can’t even make their own propaganda now, they have to ask computers to do it for them
>>532468390https://youtu.be/F9XnQd3rLDw?is=2bY66q0plN8hKNoLExample of what I mean. This guy used suno to generate this.No band were ever going to record this.l, it's esoteric.I can play a couple of instruments but realistically, I was never going to try to record this.This is a good sweet spot for AI.As soon as it can create Gameboy Advance games that never existed, I'll have it make one to suit my niche tastes, like a stripped down Mount and Blade on a podunk farming planet, in the LOTGH art style.
>>532451247People can just put AI art into museums now and they are mad that they can replacing for tax evasion
>why do leftists hate the thing they invented
>>532452294>Art requires an idea and executionSo...like AI art
>>532468591
>>532466978you thought that one song you heard on the radio was catchy & original?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOlDewpCfZQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fkf4QYTfIxA
>>532469071>whataboutismRopemaxx nigger. I could not care less about anything you have to say. I just hope i've ruffled your jimmies.
Anyone who actually spent some time developing taste and intellect by reading, playing instruments, analyzing movies etc. understands the value of genuine art.AI content is a product of soulless jeets and greedy jews.
>>532467760>On the one hand you'll see stuff that doesn't particularly look like any of what it's been trained onyeah thats what i meant.consider picrel how it abstracts hitlers phenotype, in a way it looks more like hitler than the real hitler.
>>532464747Bollocks. By today's standards, yes, but by the standards of their time, most artists were not conservative. Society consistently grows more progressive as time goes on, you cannot argue against this.
>>532469555checked and trvthpilled
>>532451247I think it has it's place...
>>532469461>I just hope i've ruffled your jimmies.>"Go ahead! Try to spike my cortisol! I'm calm maxxed, I'm framelocked! I'm snoozepilled!"
>>532469555Precisely. Anyone who thinks this slop is art is just mad or insecure that they can't create something themselves, or too lazy to invest the time to learn.
>>532469670Reminder "progressive" is mainstream lefty speak for far-left
>>532469555Only leftists and troons care about art.
>>532465467>The amount of energy/power/waste generated per slop is asinine. It's actually insane.You could literally say this about all modern lefty propaganda media slop like films, TV shows and video games for the last 15+ years
>>532451247Turned out that the 1995 guy and the 1835 guy were absolutely right
>>532451247Given how often you make this same thread, i would suggest that you buy some ADs for your struggling AI business.
>>532464253>please admire my unmade bed """art""">please admire my banana taped to a wall """art"""
>>532469670>Society consistently grows more progressive as time goes onnations, civilizations yes but not in general. rites & laws get lax, the art of ripened states gets more lively. early rome/greece had to prove their place in the world thus discipline & strictness dominated, later periods saw more diversity & spontaneity.also it doenst make it a good thing, rome fell because it got careless when it had it too good, not in the times of its rise & struggle. the jew understands that, even in good times he doesnt allow himself to become complacent. hitler understood that, hence why his reign was so radical.—“The German is conservative: his wealth is formed from the things of all times; he saves and knows how to use everything old. He is more interested in preserving than in gaining: the new things he has gained are only of value to him if they serve to adorn the old. He desires nothing from without; but he wants to be unhindered within. He does not conquer, but he does not allow himself to be attacked either.”Richard Wagner, What is German? (1865/1878)https://ghdi.ghi-dc.org/pdf/eng/324_Wagner_What%20is%20German_97.pdf—„Der Deutsche ist konservativ: sein Reichtum gestaltet sich aus dem Eigenen aller Zeiten; er spart und weiß alles Alte zu verwenden. Ihm liegt am Erhalten mehr als am Gewinnen: das gewonnene Neue hat ihm nur dann Wert, wenn es zum Schmucke des Alten dient. Er begehrt nichts von außen; aber er will im Innern unbehindert sein. Er erobert nicht, aber er läßt sich auch nicht angreifen.“Richard Wagner, Was ist Deutsch? (1865/1878)https://germanhistorydocs.ghi-dc.org/pdf/deu/324_Wagner_Was%20ist%20deutsch_97.pdf
>>532465013But not you, it's different when you do it
>>532458596>durr bro source for ur claims kill yourself, you pretentious faggot. everything the person you're replying to said is true.
>>532470146the electric power “argument” is actually disingenuous bullshit and manipulation.the problem with energy waste from AI actually lies elsewhere.still, AI slop isn’t even comparable to some of the worst of human artistic expression.
>>532453751yes, faggot. that's why films from the 70s, 80s and 90s are much better than the ones now, because these films are defacto "right wing" by modern political standards for featuring strong male leads, heterosexual couples and love interests, as close to all white casts as makes any difference, on and on and forever it goes. go listen to richard wagner and j.s. bach who wrote music exclusively in worship and supplication of god and shut the fuck up. there's an abundance of right wing art out there that constitutes REAL art and isn't the shitass ugly brain abortion of a spiteful mutant meant to provoke subversive feelings and titillate.
>>532453751who needs all the cope & escapism if you have an exciting real life?
>>532469670>progressiveprogress towards what actually?
>>532452294Are you one of those hacks who uses iPads and computers to make "art" - the comic is correct (you obviously didn't read it which tells me you don't take the time to learn anything).But you keep supporting those "artists" who know shit about art who have "brushes" and cmd-z. PS. You know what it takes to make any art with any medium? A PROMPT.
>>532451441>>532452805Good luck with that, most ai heavily censors anything porn related. Can barely ask uncensored llm's questions about it in text form
There is something quite clearly soulless about technologically generated art. If you think photography is superior to painting or film superior to stage drama, then we just have a mutually unintelligible existence.
>>532451247>Ruins GPU prices>Ruins RAM prices>Ruins SSD prices>Ruins google image search results>Ruins boorus>Spikes your electricity bill>Spikes your water bill>Endless children and women targeted with Grok's AI-edit feature>Makes academic fraud easier>Makes scams easier>Makes Indian contentfarm slop easier>Makes propaganda easier>Makes mass-surveillance easier through unfettered data scraping>Makes you doubt the person you're talking to online is even human>Makes techbros even more annoying>Consolidates more power to tech megacorps>Always getting injected into every aspect of our lives>Generally made every aspect of the internet marginally worse>No one is making money from it>Your own money is paying for the AI subsidies.>You're at risk of living even closer in a "you will own nothing" dystopia>It crashing will lead to one of the biggest economic crashes in the modern world>The only thing holding the bubble together are tech CEOs saying that AGI is around the corner.All cons, no pros.
>>532471780The edge of a cliff, before falling off and dying
>>532467822>no composition of any sort, no colorpalette, no pose, no perspective, the brushstrokes arent brushstrokes at all.I don't believe you even know what these words mean. It's clearly all there, you must be some mental retard from /ic/ that learned all the buzzwords from there playing armchair general.
>>532451247You're brown lol>>532470099>Only leftists and troons care about art.Double brown. Go back to Pindia, pajeet
>>532467822>>532467822>>532469071lmao the most seethe ive seen this year
>>532451247I hate it and I'm far right. It's become difficult to tell what's real, and it'll only get worse. I hate the power consumption and data centers too. I hate the power it gives to authorities and mass surveillance capabilities. Ai is nice to use when you need to get quick information like asking Grok something, but in every other way I suspect it'll make our lives worse.
>>532473356>I'm far right but I side with leftoids and trannies!Lol
>>532454000>AI could never replicate something like pic related,and neither will you, nor will anyone, or has anyone, in your entire lineage, going both forwards or backwards in time.
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>>532451247It's a fine tool in many areas, including art, if it's to shorten time on something that takes a lot of repetitive busywork like animation. But it will always fundamentally be garbage at artistry itself. An unfeeling and unthinking tool cannot have ideas. A piece of art is the result of one initial idea, and then hundreds to thousands of smaller ideas made in the process about how to make it look.Feeding the tool a few initial ideas and then letting it compile all the rest of the ideas from other sources without any thought or feelings involved results in something that always looks like superficial, copy pasted garbage. Case in point being that comic's artstyle aside, see how every art form shown is one where people are fully controlling every aspect of the end result. (Photography is a bit in the middle, that can rely on environmental luck but can also be fully and intricately controlled). All of them create things composed entirely of ideas and human decisions. The AI mini film is not. A tool cannot make creative decisions, it just searches for and returns ones that were already made. A human can copy they way someone else drew a hand, but that's a still a creative human decision that determines the final look.
>>532452294Art requires a soul. Without it, it art has no meaning.
>>532473909I cannot relate to your stupidity.
