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>>532494537>W-WE DIDN'T WANT THE PILOT ANYWAY!!!!
Second for TKD
>>532493617Retards here thought that Iran allowing ""friendly"" nations oil (Iraq, France, Spain etc.) ships to pass through will somehow own America.They forgot oil is a global commodity and any ship that passes through will raise supply and lower the price of oil. Iran can't wait win this, they either block it completely and price goes up for everyone, or the price will go down with every deal that they make with other countries.
Nothing blowing up in the Gulf's states tonight? Seems quiet. Letting a few ships pass and not blowing things up won't make oil go up, Iran.
Underwear status?
is abu ivanka the antichrist?please include the terms "geopolitics" and "eschaton" in your answer
Alerts over pretty much all of central Israel currently
>>532494610It's going up though
>>532494569That is very ungrateful of you.
>>532494569there will be plenty of pilots to capture once you run out of jassms shortly
The fact that the shills are spamming pepes is what gives the game away.
glowies are seething hard today
>>532494610So what’s their plan now? Keeping the oil price relatively high but not too high? How is that going to hurt America?
3 missiles all intercepted according to channel 6
>>532494610Europe was negotiationg with Iran a while ago.
>>532494610> They forgot oil is a global commodity and any ship that passes through will raise supply and lower the price of oil.Bingo
>>532494610It's been spiking on open fairly regularly over the last month
>>532494537Wow, they blew up 12 aircraft and killed 0 pilots.That's quite a feat isn't it retard?
Alerts cleared, then seemingly started again
>>532494662>W-WE DIDN'T WANT TO SLEEP ANYWAY!!
>>532494610>Iran can't wait win this, they either block it completely and price goes up for everyone, or the price will go down with every deal that they make with other countries.This isn't a zero sum game. If Iran lets some but not all oil through, the price will still go up, but not as much as it would have otherwise.
>>532494729Of course they were intercepted by intended target
>>532494767I love Palestinians get no alerts kek
>>532494662>tfw not enough radars to be more specific
>>532494662the last cluster missile that hit tel aviv 36 hours ago was a real lucky strike. Like 10+ of the clusters hit the side or roof of a building. That's just rare so far.Maybe they're dialing the accuracy in to really get the most concentrated parts of tel aviv metro.one cluster even hit the parking lot of IDF hq.
>>532494537Buy an ad
>>532494748Haven't seen any American casualties so they don't exist.
>>532494817haha yeah fuck palestinians!
>>532494791Every deal they make is someone paying for oil in something other than dollars
>>532494728Their plan is to rely on turdies making elaborate mentally ill fictions itt to keep the hopium supply up.
>>532494867Haredim receive 30% more than Arabs; per household, Arabs receive 10,000 while Haredim receive 13,000.Haredim receive 4,100 shekels per month from National Insurance.Arabs receive 1,037 shekels per month. So don't lecture me about my lack of knowledge regarding benefits when these parasites live off the money I spend every month from my salary. I know very well where my money goes compared to other people.
>>532494848And actual warhead hit the ministry of defense. It was not a cluster at all it was a 800lb warhead
>>532494767rise and shine zogs
Any reports of impacts?
>>532494867Still rather be born in Gaza or Jenin than in India
>>532494888Do Jews in Israel get money purely for existing?
Early warnings again oh no out of missiles bros
>>532494848the clussies are just to eat up the interceptors desu
The real winners of this war are those Kurds who baited CIA niggers into arming them to the teeth, only to just sit back and do nothing. Kek
>>532494569PeDonnie really needed that unranium, isn't? So sad.. He must be really mad right now... isn't?Tell me how bad he needed the uranium? He ain't gonna get it, never.
>4 explosions were just heard in Tel Aviv>Another 2>Another 7 explosions now
>>532494954So why are you a sucker and don't switch with them?If you say "the Haredim get money without doing anything"I will answer for you and whisper*You are not able to bear the burden of Torah, without sinning all day longLet me guess, you are secular
>>532494748>>532494865We running off of Holocaust jew logic now?I want to see some fucking bodies. If Iran killed Americans then lets see em.
>>532494537>1775432753983521.pngStop posting these fake images. This has already been debunked as being an Iranian car.
>>532494875Indeed, so it furthers their strategic objectives of weakening the US either way, just to different amounts and in different ways.
>israel is being bombed againyawn who cares, I want to see the gulfies getting rekt
>>532494610Yeah the oil will get cheaper again and dollar money will be just as useless as zimbabwean dollar and rupiah lol
Wtf another wave of missiles lol, that's 3 early warnings.
I just want to remind youWe are the ONLY nation that can pass Hormuz without FEES or CONSTRAINTS aside from IranThat's allThank you for your attention to this matter
>>532494969underrated impact tho. Very underrated.
>>532494969In case you haven't noticed ..they don't bother intercepting the clusters. The clusters just do mostly property damage.If they were smart they would be firing pedal mines and generally more or less deny access to entire areas
>>532494986My taxes paid for that shit and I still think it’s hilarious
1 pilot? 9 aircraft? Miggers are you retarded? This was an attempt at a staging area, a prelude to an invasion. You'd have to be next level retarded to believe amerisharts would do allat for a single pilot, and kill 9 other pilots (those aircraft are flown by someone my dears) The real and most likely story is that this was in fact a failure of an attempt at something more then a simple rescue op. This was an invasion failure.
>>532495004Well I asked a question.
Alerts seem to have finally cleared now.Wonder if any impacts.
>>532494537They weren't trying to get a pilot. You don't need two C-130s to bring back 1 pilot.
>>532495098i'm just pasting translated hebrew comments. I don't even know the answer to your question but i think yes, yes they get free money for living:'Arabs give you 14 percent of the total income tax in the country while they are 20 percent of the country, Haredim are 14 percent of the country and they constitute 4 percent of the total income tax of the country. Need a more detailed explanation?
>alerts over Israel>shill spam drops by 90%Thank you, Mojtaba. Very cool.
>>5324951443 salvos. 11 missilesFirst 3 reportedly intercepted. 1 went into the ocean. The others probably hit stuff. Israel probably doesn't have interceptors at this point to waste
WE ARE TAKING THE OIL
LOL I think the last missiles are going to gulfies and Israel has no radar and just see it on Sat and shat their pants. The early warning popped then disappeared
>>532495073>germany absolutely baffled by the idea of someone caring about human life more than efficiency
>>532495217You wear a kippah and you don't know how many commandments are in the Torah without using Google. So act like you're a Torah bearer in the world just because you wear a kippah, you're far from being the perfect Jew.
>>532495073we dont do this in GERMANY (turkey)
>>532495217SAAAR DO NOT REDEEM THE OIL YOU BITCH SAAAR
>>532495073Show 1 pic of those 9 dead pilots or KYS you retarded nigger. Should be easy since you have all wreckage right?
>>532495217TAKE ALL OF IT. MAKE IRAN DRILL IT FOR THE USA LMAO
>>532495217how exactly?
>>532495147you do if your plan is land halfway and hug the ground in helis the rest of the way. the helis don't have nearly the range to do the run on their own
TKD.
>>532495291He had to go run to the bunker. Don't engage when he returns.
>>532495236>>532495282>>532495291>3 shill bot replies all 1 minute apart from each other
>>532495291Prolly fake n gay (lol)
>>532495296Just enslave them for 1000 years until they have extracted every last drop of oil. Every American will have a swimming pool filled with Iranian crude just to dab on them.
>>532495344My dad is a doctor, he is a rabbi, he is a reserve officer, and in his free time he also teaches Torah lessons. And there are many, many more like him... It's a matter of seeing the other, not of inability
>>532495380He survived
>>532495017Kek savage
>Cluster submunitions impacted various areas within Tel Aviv.
>>532495366you are MAD the pilot survived lmfao
>>532495418>doctor and a rabbitSo he steals foreskins for a living?
>>532495366dont spoil their fictional victory :)
>>532495217Guys, I have a worrying feeling that this war wasn't about liberating Persian women....
>>532495426He left his panties
>>532495416FREE GAS FOR A THOUSAND YEARSPOOLS OPEN TURDIES
>>532495217didn't he lose all the gulf oil and in a process of getting kicked out of iraq?
>>532495469slava ukraini or whatever
>>532495053the turks are not going to be happy about this, and they already said they'd enter the war ON IRAN'S SIDE if the kurds start any shit
>>532495520yeah.. very similar behaviour :)
>>532495520Indeed
>>532495073Ah new cope dropped
>>532495073i hope that iran makes movie about this before usa does :D
>>532495467>doctor and a rabbit
>>532495549very stupid looking doll, watch this
>>532495584I will settle for goyblox game instead.
>>532495453Is there any proof that they are using cluster munitions?
>>532495467Oh come on, throughout the entire history of the people of Israel, there was no army.I'm not saying we don't need one,but we exist by miracles.Anyone who doesn't think so should do the statistics.
>>532495653Oh that's horrible.
>>532494986Glownigs can only pull the same trick so many times before the locals got sick of their shit I guess.
>>532495453they didn't need those planes anyway, the american taxpayer will cough up the $1.5 trillion defense budget
https://files.catbox.moe/2mptja.MP4Direct hit in Haifa
>>532495699Congratulations, 90% of the posts here are blatant lies but you managed to tell the stupidest, most unbelievable one yet. Are you training to be a rabbi?
>>532495699What about all the uprisings against the Greeks and Romans?You wouldn't call those armies?
>>532495217Its middle-brained to think the US is doing this for oil. It wasn't doing it for oil in Iraq either.Don't fall for that psy-op.Its ZOG
>>532495782I thought professional comedian president can do a better job at filming propaganda
>>532495846YOOO TKD Lets fucking goo
>>532494610The price doesn’t need to be high for then to win. They just need to force people to not use USD when buying from gulf countries, which they are presumably doing. Oil could be $30 a barrel and they would still win this way.Of course, this might be tricky to enforce.
>President Trump's advisors are reportedly texting Iran's Foreign Minister Araghchi in an attempt to continue negotiations, per Axios.>Two sources involved in the negotiations said the talks are also taking place through Pakistani, Egyptian, and Turkish mediators.
>>532495073>German>follows a Muslim on social mediakek
>>532495810double Fatah 1/2 missiles right at tel aviv bros. blew past the air defense missiles like it was special olympics vs olympics.Loud explosions in the center in the last barrage from Iran - this is how it looks from the center.
>>532495951LOL starting the negotiations bullshit again they got fucked last night
>>532494748Either they succeeded at rescuing a pilot and weapons officer, something that has no effect on the war at all, or they botched their uranium heist and now Iran knows how they'll attempt it again. Pick your poison.
>>532495951>sending textsYeah they're trying to assassinate him
>>532495951no negotiations and no message exchange is happening at all.
The goyim fucked up again. I guess we're going to have to beat the Persians all by ourselves, just like we did in the Book of Esther.
>>532495869that was the most self-aware israeli hebrew comment i've ever seen.And of course it's true. Israel has been lucky to last 77 years.
>>532495951
>>532495951>left on readohhhhhh no coming back from that
>>532495885>You wouldn't call those armies?more like nigger chimp outs. every jewish civilization only lasted 8 decades or less.
>>532495217Americans still haven't seen a single drop of Venezuelan oil kek
>>532495810but what is THAT?! a new wonder weapon?
Through total air dominance the US has now singlehandedly lost more aircrafts than iran
>>532494610>They forgot oil is a global commoditywell, unless and until export controls are implemented. energy producing countries absolutely can forbid their own companies from exporting any oil or gas(or limit the amounts), thus artificially reducing demand and hence prices in their domestic market. which means that the plan to leverage energy prices/availability to hurt the us is 100% retarded. it hurts other countries/regions, but not the us. and ofc, the strategy only applies as long as energy continues to be produced and shipped out of the gulf, right?if iran wants to leverage control of the strait, they can't burn the gulfs energy production. but this is exactly what they have been doing, and are threatening to do more of. every refinery they burn makes the strait less relevant, and there's been a few of them burned down already.and, while the current situation is going on, whatever oil production is still alive in the gulf is DEFINITELY not being loaded onto ships that will attempt to pass through the strait. fundamentally, iran has no military win condition here. they can't stop the us bombing them, and they can't hurt the us via controlling the strait and the energy that flows through itso, iran is currently trying for a political win-allow "friendly" countries through (essentially meaningless, as discussed above)-ask for yuan payment (also mostly meaningless, but this is another large conversation)-shitpost profuselyall with the ultimate goal of weakening the trump adminwhich is partly successful, trump will almost certainly lose congress at the midterms (but, then, that is par for the course for any admin)......but ultimately is not going to change anything. the chance that the us (any admin, gop, dems, ANYONE) will go "ok iran, you win, the gulf and the middle east are yours now, gg wp" is exactly 0%.so, the bombings will continue until morale improves (regime change or complete collapse in iran)
>>532496026>>532495988>double Fatah 1/2 missiles right at tel aviv bros.Majestic as fuck.
>>532495073The cope is that most of the choppers and the c130 wasn’t exactly shot down but damaged on air, forced to make an emergency landing and blown up to negate assets to the iranians.
>>532496093GOLDEN AGE!!!
>>532496093>counting drones do shotdown shaheeds count?
>>532496079a manifested occultation
>>532496079lol.
>>532496128any footage of it hitting?
>Growing concern in the White House about the success of the war with Iran is prompting discussions of a broader cabinet shake‑up as political pressure mounts and approval ratings fall - an US official told Reuters privately
>>532495829the replacements will cost 3X as much and will be delivered 3X behind schedule
>>532496093>count us drones but not Iranian onesDishonest
>>532495907Yikes...that's standing on your own two feet atleast
>>532496096Wow loads of text; tldr: new dollar = zimbabwean dollar
> BREAKING: European allies are reportedly “losing hope” of keeping the US in NATO, per The Economist.https://x.com/leadingreport/status/2040958373802184759Why should we stay in NATO? We do better with Israel than with them.
The shills can't justify this war.
>>532496177Zognald needs to shake up bibis cock out of his ass
Grant smith ellis is live with a few cams
>>532496142I didn't lose money gambling. I deliberately gave it to the casino.
>>532494610yup. They should keep it closed for ALL
>>532495951Axios is kike lies
>>532496163i've got audio so far, two loud bangs .75 seconds apart. https://t.me/danielamram3/40193
>>532496154well a reaper is a reusable multimillion dollar platform with radar and external munition mounts, while the shahed is a cheap bomb with a propellerit'd be more honest to count tomahawks
>>532496212Leave. Your security guarantees are worthless, and you do not respect the values by which you founded the alliance anymore.You are closer to Israel than you are Western civilisation.
>>532496177ah firing your cabinet, that's how you win wars
>>532496212Why would we defend Europe when it's trying to kill itself with replacement migration and retarded liberal policies?
>>532494537Another day of fake Iranian cope as they lose the first ground battle on their home turf.
Tel Aviv: Rescue forces are currently performing resuscitation on a woman in her 90s after she was found unconscious on her way to a shelter. Report by Shimon Raviv---"I'm here on a trip and found myself under dozens of missiles, I'm never coming back": An American tourist documented the last barrage towards the center
>>532496184Drones shouldn't count at all. Nobody cares if a robot is destroyed.
>>532496212EUTO sounds so damn dumbcome up with a better abbreviation for an eu-only defense treaty army
>>532496196they should have put this doll in military uniform, bad look
>>532496301Aww poor girl, hope it hurts lol
>>532495951The Neocon Grifters seem baffled by radicalized fanaticism. As if the idea the opposing side doesn't see this war as just business is completely alien to them. Meanwhile the Israeli government is just trying to keep the war going as long as possible to get some kind of miracle victory in Lebanon. All so that the current ruling party can convince the rest of the country to send them all to prison at the end of all this. What a fucking shit show.
>U.S. commanders have admitted that Iran’s rapidly evolving tactics — from unexpected asymmetrical strikes to resilient air defenses that downed multiple U.S. aircraft — have caught senior generals off guard and forced a recalibration of Washington’s operational expectations
>>532496293t. Ranjeet from Texas
>>532496184Those are Reapers, bro. Each one is worth millions of dollars.The American equivalent of a Shaheed would be something like a Switchblade.
>>532496262>what are mohajers, karrar, shahed 129
>>532496280Why wouldn’t we? Israel is stronger and more reliable.
>>532496163No footage but Israel is claiming many clusters hit
>Couldn't even capture a downed, injured pilot hundreds of miles within their territory.>Allows a makeshift airport in the middle of their country.And I'm supposed to pretend that these muzshits are strong?
>>532496394A WHOLE MILLIONS?!>>532496387>>532496280Why would we keep defending Europe? What's the point?
>>532496154>>532496184you can compare the total cost of shotdown aircrafts for both sides and i am sure the side whose jets cost hundreds of million dollars and tens of million dollars drones will be the one with deficit
>>532496293NATO enables EU globalists. Ending it would help stop migration unironically. NATO wants the refugees it creates to be compensated.
>>532496367>unexpected asymmetrical strikesas opposed to
>>532495846>>532495810>Night>DayOne of these is a lie
>>532496465>Why would we keep defending Europe? What's the point?I don't advocate for that, just saying you have no right to talk about replacement migration.
Some old Hamas kino
>>532496492No mine was from earlier sorry that hurts your migger brain
hebrew just nowReport on the elimination of Mughthaba Khamenei in the city of Qom in Iran
>"Carter was humiliated. So will Trump." – Pezeskhian
>>532496212Why would you willingly leave? NATO is like a vassal swarm. The vassals might not aid you militarily, but they still prop up your economy and allow you to influence their politics.Shit like this makes be believe the Trump “controlled demolition” hypothesis.
Wonder what Arafat would have thought about this scuffle.
>>532496026Nobody beat the Persians IRL except alexander the great. That's verified history
MDA reports that the woman who was injured on her way to the protected space in Tel Aviv is in serious condition. MDA medic Ido Adleheit said: "We saw a woman in her 90s lying near the staircase unconscious and suffering from a severe head injury, after she fell and was injured on her way to the protected space. We provided her with life-saving medical treatment including resuscitation and evacuated her to the hospital while her condition was unstable"
>>532496551He didnt die for this, fo sure
>>532496544>of Mughthaba Khameneino way
>>532496544collapse of the regime imminent
>>532496468no one gives a shit about drones, I'm not denying they were shot down of course, just saying no one really cares>>532496516>just saying you have no right to talk about replacement migration.We are starting the process of reversing it. The EU wants to import 20 MILLION indians, which if 5 times more than we have TOTAL throughout all our history ffs. The Europeans are suicidal and we shouldn't be defending them militarily so they can commit suicide.
>>532495236If the American right weren't a bunch of honorless dogs who brag about war crimes, a sensible country would just let them be a POW for the war's duration (it's not like you mistreat POWs, right?) and have them repatriated at the end of hostilities.
>>532496544>Mughthabais that another way to spell it or is that the new ghost ayatollah?
>>532496465It's billions by now if they really took down 17 of them.
>>532496177>broader cabinet shake‑up that's what presidents do when they are on the verge of a revolution lmao
>>532496453It is safe to say if that F15 had been shot down before the conflict then the IRGC would have had heli's, vehicles, soldiers even. It shows how in disarray they are and their mosaic plan works for their terrorist activities, not so good for anything else.
>>532496635oh no!
>>532496367>U.S. commanders They are nepobabay hires at this point, and it's a culture of political alignments over anything else. >>532496432They are not, but you are too retarded to know that. Israel has not accomplished its war aims with HAMAS even with a doctrine of war crimes; it will not accomplish its war aims with Hezbollah or Iran either. You do not align with the values of Western civilisation anymore; you align more with Israeli society. So Europe wants you gone. >>532496465You do not defend Europe as it is; you stopped aid to Ukraine, and you involve yourself in European politics in Russia's favour. The security guarantees you provide are worthless.Nobody respects you in Europe. NATO was dead the second Trump put Article 5 in doubt.
>>532496350hôn hôn hôn ca s'appelle «OTAN», mon ami
>>532496632Hebrew transliteration, I presume.
>>532496544khomeini jr jr to the rescue
>>532496468The purported point of the post was total number not cost, and the fact that the chart conceals the real number makes it a dishonest shill. If you wanna play stupid games let’s compare what % of gdp the lost American aircraft is to the % of Iranian gdp theirs represents and the number is much worse for Iran since their gdp is currently a crater. But we we don’t need to play stupid deceptive games do we just post actual total aircraft losses
>>532496647People completely overlook that in Trump's preempting of Iran's attack, Iran's capabilities were in fact severely diminished. They imply Iran would NOT be using their airforce and navy if they had it.
>>532496601>We are starting the process of reversing itGod you people are beyond retarded
>>532496301>"I'm here on a trip and found myself under dozens of missiles, I'm never coming back": An American tourist documented the last barrage towards the centerImagine being completely oblivious to the news and current events.Fucking dumbass travelers.
>>532496453If the entire world united against the US they still would not be able to do to us what we are singlehandedly doing to iran. Shitskins coping and dilating in every thread that they are somehow winning when they can't even prevent the US from conducting ground operations next to their major cities.
>>532496177The only shakeup that could salvage this is Trump resigning and fucking off. He can have a nice villa in Tel Aviv. Ideally, Vance and Johnson fuck off too.
best buds on their way to bomb tel aviv.
>>532496688>gdp Faje and gay ass number lol
>>532496717go away norgay
>>532496184US drones are really fucking expensive compared to russian, iranian, turkish, chinese or ukranian designs. Often by multiple factors. There is a reason why you use iranian designs to manufacture the LUCAS drones.
>>532494537So regarding those US bases in the Gulf states. How much of them are damaged and how long will it take to rebuild?
Haifa
>>532496688the point is that you lose on both number and cost you faggot
>>532496583
>>532496660No one cares about Ukraine NAFOtard, you have to get over it.
>>532494610>can’t wait win this
>>532496805Looks like Aftermath of this>>532495846
>>532496805Give me T give me K give me DT K D
>>532496805Those are props from an American TV show called The Walking Dead, specifically in Season 4 when Rick's group entered the prison.
Iran kept saying this would be a night that would be talked about for centuries. Will it happen?
>>532496658That money could've funded 10 hours of EBT.
>>532494610They are letting their own oil through.
>>532496544in ur dreams jew boy
>>532496644so funny how Witkoff said he called off negotiations because Iran said they would not give more diplomatically than could be taken militarily.On day 2 of the war Witkoff was all cocky and on air force one he told the press gaggle that he decided Iran needed an attitude adjustment.There was no doubt in his little jew brain that the US would crush Iran militarily. Never entered his mind that we might lose and get pushed clean out of the whole region, and pay a goy tax on all oil from the gulf.
>>532496714There is no world where Iran would win the air war against the US. I dont believe the iranians have ever planned to use them in this war. They are there for dissidents and regional conflicts.
>>532496835> A whole country the size of Europe and can't hide and can't use a courierAmazing
>>532496688while we are at it, let's compare iran vs us defense budget too if you are going into muh gdp
>>532496756>>532496839But you are so stupid and read the world like a dishonest kike, it's hard, but you are right, arguing with an idiot like you is really pointless. Are you a kike? Or just this retarded and lost in MAGA cope?
>>532496601>reversing itlollmaobro it was over once the italians got here
>>532496544I would ask why do you lie. But ik you are a kike. Get ready fag.
holy shithebrewMore than 10 missiles with cluster warheads were launched in three waves of fire from Iran
>>532496804One of the peace terms Iran has made most clear so far is that all U.S. Gulf bases are to be permanently shuttered and never rebuilt again.
>>532496289If it works it works
>>532496717there's a reason these are made by the dozen
>>532496923I'm beyond the point of taking you effeminate, screeching eurotards seriously. And so are we as a country.
>>532496635>15 million times 17 equals billionsMust be that chinese education I hear so much about
>>532495305Ah, you know. Once we get done murdering half their population and blowing everything up that makes their life livable they'll be begging us to make deal with them to allow them to live.It's this little thing called the art of the deal. You could learn a little something about how the world works.
>>532494729At least 5 missiles of the 3 fired were intercepted.
>>532496771Reapers and shit as a concept are looking a bit outdated now. Long loiter time, weapons on rails but expensive as. Cheaper disposable/one way drones seems to be the way to go, especially against anything even remotely contested.
>>532497021Yeah but some got through
>>532496965I know>>532496987No, you simply have no argument. A serious discussion of anything would destroy your worldview, so you are incapable of it.
>>532496771It's proving warfare can change, Iran tho basically have no military left and so drones and missiles have evened things with regard to how much damage they can do away from them really being able to do anything about defence. Their defence is simply the terrain and the size of the country, doesn't help cities and other population centres tho
>>532496949>More than 10 missiles with cluster warheads were launched in three waves of fire from Iranseems like an escalation, so khamanei jr is probably then i guess?
A zionist-American aggression targeted the headquarters of the 52nd Brigade of the Popular Mobilization Forces in Tuz Khurmatu, east of Salah al-Din, Iraq.
>Footage of a USAF C-295W flying to rescue the stranded American crews of C-130s and an F-15E WSO in Nasrabad, Isfahan.https://xcancel.com/ETERNALPHYSICS/status/2040920220659757434
wow you shitskins sure are serious today, sounds like that rescued soldier didn't stop israel from getting it's asshole reamed out by missiles
>>532497021KeK >>532497054Reread bro
>>532497015Iranians aren't the ones begging for deal.
>>532496520this is why they leveled the whole city, hamas chads would have sniped all idf kikes if they had buildings
>>532496714an Air Force is the most expensive branch of any military in terms of hardwarea b-2 spirit is just as much money as a constellation class frigate, you have to have balls out money for planes
>>532496341>they pulled off a risky ejection and emergency raid deep into iran so they wouldn't have to pull off a planned raid deep into iranHow deliberately obtuse can a person pretend to be? The F-15 shootdown wasn't planned, it was just used as an opportunity by SOF to blow the resources they were supposed to use to conduct a suicidal raid much deeper into a much more difficult part of Iran. There is no chance the Uranium was being kept in the least defensible province of Iran which was one of the closest to where the US was conducting strikes from. The idea that this was 5D chess and it was a successful operation to search for Uranium which wasn't there is idiotic.
>>532496987This level of hubris is why you are currently losing the war.
>>532496946i'm not a kike, i'm the hebrew news aggregator from the old days. i hate kikes more than you love cars and the gym and lebanon.you remember me probably
>>532497060There's no discussion. We don't want, need, or care to defend a bunch of uppity liberal faggots who want to destroy their civilization. You can seethe and screech all day (which you do anyway) and you can't convince me why we should defend a Europe that wants to destroy their own cultures, civilizations, and people.
>>532494610Splitting up the US from its allies is a win I’d say
>>532497155>OH MY 4CHANNEL, GET IN HERE BROWN BROS, IRAN LAUNCHED A HECKIN MISSILE IN OPERATION TRUE DURKA DURKA TREE FIDDY, SLAVA IRANI PBUHshut up you stupid turk
>>532497048both russia and the ukraine use high-end surveillance drones extensively. they don't get shot down as much because they actually try to avoid AAA. you need something flying high with good (expensive) sensors to surveil large areas.
>>53249618430 million dollar zog drones, they dont count jassm missiles shot down either.
>>532497084well the US and Israel just did huge bombing raids a couple hours ago. Plus iran had not struck tel aviv for 36 hours, so something was due.Plus Trump with his tuesday night deadline thing, which he just broke himself with the huge bombing raids.So Iran would want to get in a bunch of big shots at tel aviv and the gulfies before that tuesday night deadline comes.
>>532497177Sounds familiar
>>532497155you're talking to a shit brown obese atrocidad at eglin airforce base
>>532496965I’ve recently taken a liking to those memes
>>532497182What percentage of your country is white again?If it's less than 70% don't even bother replying.
>>532497155If the gloves come off like in 1991 they are done. The missiles may keep coming but no power. No internet. No bridges. No water. No rails. No banks. No work. Iran will collapse because survival will be a priority not some religious fued.Or they go total war mode like ,in 1980 and invade somewhere with millions of child soldiers
>>532495147You don't start a ground invasion with 2 fucking C-130s you retarded ape.
>>532497067>No military left.Iranian equipment loss and casualties till now?They are still launching missiles and destroying american planes.
>>532497238Ohhh no the missiles were intercepted again :( dammit why won’t Israel and the USA let us win??
>>532497182You are beyond retarded. You speak of culture and civilisation while rejecting your own; you speak of liberal values as if they are foreign. >muh defend EuropeGet it through the thick skull that nobody wants you here. NATO was dead the second Trump put Article 5 into question, not to mention threatening to invade NATO territory You people really are goycattle, so utterly brainwashed with cope, all you can do is scream EUROPE
>>532497329Given the "lessons" of Venezuela, I think Trump and the DUI hire actually think you can.
>>532497238Look at you chimping out again when faced with reality. This humiliating defeat was a long time coming and was probably what you needed
why, lord jesuswhy did you have to rescue the pig american pilotwhy couldn't you let the based white persians capture and humiliate himwhy.... why.......... why do you consistently award evil and treachery. why do this and then act like humans are bad for not having faith... don't you see the problem, lord jesus. this universe is fundamentally flawed
>>532497048The iranians also have their reaper equivalent. I don’t think their role is the sole reason for the disparity in price. Probably a combination of profit margins by the manufacturers (after all, they need to offset their R&D costs and profit) with production inefficiencies in the US. There’s practically no intellectual property to the iranian drone designs (I think there is, but they are not respected), so they just manufacture it whenever. Often with zero R&D costs as the schematics comes from an ally or from reverse engineered US drones.
>>532497143I have 2 years of Hamas kino. I wish Hezbollah would post some kino but I understand they can't because of opsec
>>532497015>Miggers just openly genocidal nowDisgusting
>>532497431Seethe traitor. USA wins. You should be thankful Trump doesn’t lock you up
this one was pretty cool. Hezbollah fired some rockets at an IDF position building a bridge across the Litani, and the kikes ran away and left 3 big Caterpillar backhoes, and all their gear. Like they were sleeping and the kikes just woke up and ran away. And the Hezbollah guys just rummaged through all the jew gear. Hezbollah published footage of an ambush carried out by their fighters in the El-Faqani area next to the Litani River project and north of the town of Al-Taybeh, southern Lebanon, after IOF forces fled the area. Fighters were seen using 122mm GRAD rockets and 120mm Mortar Shells. They display footage at the end showing equipment abandoned by the IOF whilst they fled - 3 excavators, food rations, uniforms, and a dinghy. Hezbollah published footage of an ambush carried out by their fighters in the El-Faqani area next to the Litani River project and north of the town of Al-Taybeh, southern Lebanon, after IOF forces fled the area. Fighters were seen using 122mm GRAD rockets and 120mm Mortar Shells. They display footage at the end showing equipment abandoned by the IOF whilst they fled - 3 excavators, food rations, uniforms, and a dinghy.
>>532497431>falling for some basic bitch mutt lies with 0 material backingi thought your kind were supposed to have faith
>>532496660>You do not defend Europe as it is; you stopped aid to Ukraine, and you involve yourself in European politics in Russia's favouryoyoyo, lets be fair herethe ukraine shit was started by the obama/clinton/biden group, not trump's faction (hereafter just trump)and yes, they started it, not putin. they couped yanukovich and had ukraine making "lets join nato" noises. putin's response was essentially forced.and the nordstream bombing happened under them too, biden specifically. trump has tried to force us to make peace on that front, which would have served us EXCEPTIONALLY well, doubly so in the current situation. this iran thing would have been much easier to weather with some cheap russian gas and oil, wouldn't it?anyway, calling all that "in russia's favour" is an exceptionally uncharitable reading. trump wants a west-aligned russia. not in the sense of being allies, but in the sense of their economy being entwined with europe, not china. ofc, they want that because they want to fuck over china, not so much to help us, and certainly not russia, but still.
I still can't believe that truth social post is realTrump is such a bizarre person
>>532497413>>532497364>>532497319>euro discord is madGood no one cares you fucking freaks. Stop being such liberal faggots and maybe we'd give a shit what you say.
>>532497474Sorry for hurting your feelings. Maybe we should only kill a third of their population
>>532497413the operation was wildly embarrassing, the official line is that everyone survived btw, and that we blew these planes up to prevent them from being captured lmfao
>>532495073Larry Johnson and Scott Ritter say it was a failed Natanz raid. Scott Ritter says there was glownigger involvement, meaning probably boots on the ground, imo probably to loot nuclear mats.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn_Jvl7rX4M
>>532497502>>532497502>we'd give a shit what you say.Nobody anywhere gives a flying fuck what the MAGA cult thinks or says. You are the lolcows of politics and that will never change.
"What hyperson-ACK!?"
>>532497328This ain’t the 90s anymore thoever. The cost of doing that is becoming a pariah state, and making China look like the sane world power. You can’t just hide those war crimes through propaganda since information is shared instantly now
>>532497493>trump wants a west-aligned russia.lol you can't reason with NAFO, they made their entire personality and world view around the newest once a decade edition of the former USSR shitflinging
>>532497499no way in hell the grand cheetoh wrote that tweet. which is concerning in itself.
>>532497155We are capable of war, you are not.Vassals should show respect for those who protect them.It's by our grace and dignity that your lands are protected.And it is by your weakness and patheticness that you allow this.
>>532497481Hezb guy finds a box of canned tuna in this one. the IDF love canned tuna, they cook it in the can and eat it hot.I think they love the feminizing chemicals from the plastic lining of the cans.
>>532497147>used as an opportunityonly the commander in chief can authorize such a raid>blow the resourceswe have 700 of those planesand they waited hours for the helis putting everyone at riskso it's zero benefit for your fantasy sabotage scenario and huge personal riskat least you're in the bargaining stage, most of these losers will be in denial forever
>>532497564New?Also that's not hypersonic
>>532497557>you're in a FRICKIN CULT you heckin migger CHUDthe only thing more pathetic than a liberal with TDS is a foreigner with TDS hahahahahahahahahaha you're NOT having a good day norgay
>>532497574Well he doesn't write his posts, he dictates them to an aide who posts them.And they are all too scared to say no to him.
>>532496184reapers are remotely piloted aircraft and cost the same as them. the only difference is there's no one sitting in it.
>>532496544If so it seems Iran has a lot of leaks. Their leaders keep getting killed. They should be in underground bunkers 400 meters deep.
>>532497571>>532497493You are both retarded if you think Russia will ever align itself with the West.Russia and China have very close ties now, and that is the new status quo. The split between them has healed long ago.
>>532497493>ukraine should be able to join NATO>Iran should be allowed to have a nukeboth would have been fine, and would have helped all regions long-termfunny that israel is composed in half by russian jews, slavs cant help but stir shit
The American-Israeli bombing raids against Iranian missile bases are slowing down and becoming less frequent by the day, as the U.S. has started to run out of JASSM missiles and battle fatigue is kicking in.The latest Iranian barrage, which was actually three seperate smaller barrages, consisted of more than 10 missiles in total — a notable uptick.I expect missile fire against Israel to increase in the coming days.
>>532497545>scott rittardOk now I KNOW it was just a csar operation
>>532497645>>532497499Trump is the GOAT shitposter, but you don't do that IN EUROPE>>532497673no one cares about Ukraine, get over it
>>532494537>iranian analysts confirm Steiner's counterattack will bring everything under control
>>532497333Yes they have drones and missiles. That is just hitting soft targets. The US bases are still operational, Iran have had theirs destroyed. The airports are destroyed and abandoned. They can't use any manned aircraft. They can't use any ships apart from speedboats and the drone boats. Iran's only strength is hoping the US go home because Iran certainly can't do it militarily. So it is down to Iran attacking soft targets and threatening non military ships in the Hormuz.
>>532497604You should not cook the actual can jew bros...your ngmi with all those bpa chemicals and I'll bet jew tuna comes from America because Tuna are not in the Mediterranean
>>532497665hopefully it's just a hebrew rumor because they're coping so hard.
>>532497705Seeing your leader have meltdowns online is not very inspiring
>>532497601>qOYAnd no, you are not going to make it out alive the decade, economically and reputationally speaking. This is the stage where an empire flails and lashes out at everyone, while shunning responsbility. You are finished.
>>532497639Everyday is a bad day for norgay, MAGA and Israel live rent free in his empty skull
>>532497574Sounds like Hegseth, though Hegseth is being used as a mouth piece as well, by the same master puppeteers. Elon had the same weird unhinged script too.
Attacks in Mahabad, Tehran.
>>532497790>Mahabadbut MAHA is good
>>532496367They didn't realize this shit after the tutorial enemy of the Houthis? We are so fucked.
>>532497654Iranian shahed 129 and mohajers are the same concept and the cuck isn’t counting them
>>532497692Easter eggs are always easier to find at the start.>find missile launchers 0/300>”haha this is easy”>find missile launchers 200/300>”fucking kill me”
>>532497790More martyred toddlers to strengthen Iranian resolve
>>532497601>We are capable of war, you are not."you're" getting dumpstered by the third world again you slow-witted shitskin, only you trash eagerly associate with the epstein class, we're the ones you gun you down on the sidewalk>>532497611>New?ye>Also that's not hypersonicsource?
You are the best in the world, don't be afraid of anyone! Positive reinforcement from the legendary rock star Gene Simmons (originally Israeli, his name is Chaim Witz, born in Haifa), the bassist and singer of the band "Kiss"
>>532497639>incoherent insultsYou really do not grasp it, do you? You cope with the idea that Europe wants you to defend it, while you completely ignore that the overwhelming majority in Europe wants you gone, because you have devolved into an anti-intellectual, anti-Western movement that has no discernible values. Just pure hypocrisy. 80 years of US policy thrown out the window just so you can become a rogue state. Nobody respects that, nobody will appease that. But then again, you are just a complete retard, so you wouldn't grasp it anyway.
>>532497723>US bases are soft targets>Tel Aviv is a soft target>F15s are soft targetshuh?
>>532497696Larry Johnson also says it was failed Natanz raid. I'm sure you have some retarded ad hom for him too. Don't bother. Just watch the video if you want to grapple with the facts.
>>532497692>10 missiles is now considered a big uptickChrist the Persians really are gassed huh
>>532497846hmm lefty rag, lefty anon
>>532497830Missile launchers are not some wunderwaffe that take years to build. Some guys with a welder and some metal can make one in a few days out of a semi truck.
>>532497856>drumpf is stinky poopoo headNo one cares what you think you foreign liberal faggot BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>532494537How did iran do that? Use rockets launchers?
>>532497829yes, and they should be counted. though i don't think any have been downed during the actual war itself just yet (outside of one today by israel).
>>532497846>SourceMy own eyes. Go look at previous hyper sonic strikes.
>>532497920Troll, nobody is this retarded.
>>532497830especially if you think that bombing one of the dozens of missile city launch doors counts as disabling a launcher. i hear average clearing time on those is 12 hours now to get back into operation
>>532497939Wouldn’t you like to know jewboy
>>532497891>Christ the Persians really are gassed huhthey were busy today bombing like 4 other countries back to the camel and tent days.
>>532497673>Russia will ever align itself with the Westrussia WAS largely aligned with the west. they weren't allies, but they were selling their oil/gas to europe(much to our benefit), buying football teams in england, sending their kids to switzerland and england for school, sending their (totally taxed, swearsies) money to cyprus, etc. they weren't allies, but their economy was fundamentally a part of europe. now its 50% chinese gas station, 50% ukranian(and russian) genocide facilitator.
>>532497891Iran is cooked. Most ships are getting through, their AD hasn’t done shit, their missiles are non existent
>>532497723>The US bases are still operationalWhy is every tanker taking off from Israel or Europe, then?
>>532497971You’d be surprised how mindnumbingly retarded miggers can get
>>532497155yeah we might lose this war like we lost vietnam
>>532497736>Tuna are not in the Mediterraneantunisia's tuna gets shipped to japan
>>532497608>only the commander in chief can authorize such a raidno, plenty of people can authorize CSAR operations. Some airforce officer had a missing pilot and WSO and Delta went up and said "put me in coach".>we have 700 of those planes700 C-130s, not 700 MC-130J with the fuel bladders to conduct refueling operations deep in enemy territory. Of the ones that do exist, not all are in the middle east, and not all are ready to go for this specific op. There are plenty of other things that were used up that will take time to replace and get back into position for another try. You clearly don't understand how complicated operations are even under normal circumstances.>they waited hours for the helis putting everyone at riskbecause this was a spur of the moment thing that the SOF officers did to get out of committing mass suicide, or at least to delay it.>it's zero benefit for your fantasy sabotage scenario and huge personal riskThey saved a pilot and managed to blow what they'd need to do the mission any time within the next few days without getting any of themselves killed that we know of.
>>532497882>it was failed Natanz raidit's increasingly looking like exactly this, yes. i'm starting to think there's a hundred captured specops mutts being debriefed somewhere right now.
>>532497601Why ireland lol
>>532497894When the retarded know what the wise do, it must be a trickOr maybe you're just retarded >>532497959So... fuck all, and the impetus of evidence is on me for some reason? Maybe you're just a brown subhuman who calls themselves White online and eglin should just stay home
>>532497971You uppity euroshits just don't get that no one cares what you're seething about everyday and everyone is over it. Yeah yeah I know drumpf is le racist and a big orange meany or whatever but I hate liberals more than I like Trump so you can seethe all you want. Norway has like 20,000 people in your army, the fact you think we give a shit what you're seething about is so silly it's not worth the time to take seriously. Hope that helps.
>>532497866The US bases are still operational. Hezbollah a have killed more kikes than Iran has. Lol even the IDF has killed more kikes in just a few hours than Iran has in 5 weeks, Iran can't get 1% of what Hamas and the IDF did on. And shooting 1 plane down doesn't change a single thing, they didn't even get a kill or a POW out of it. Embarrassing that Iran are reduced to keeping a dead leader "alive" to placate their public who have no interwebs.
>>532497431sounds like you're actually on the side of evil bro, oooh sorry you've been living a lie
>>532497723They are doing what is needed to fight war with superior power.Americans hit their infrastructure they hit the infrastructure of American allies.I think after destroying Iranian Navy and airforce(old planes) and killing some old dudes Americans got nothing new to show for.It's funny how after losing around dozens of aircraft they are showing rescue of downed pilot some kind of victory.
>>532498055I didnt think tuna were in the med. Dang
fucking pedo faggot.All he had to do was say kike and faggots pretend he wasn't a serial pedo with a very specific type.
>>532498045no one cares you retarded liberal zoomer
>>532497705yeah it was funny when the shitposting was just shitposting and not real world war crimes and boasting about it
>>532498157For someone who doesn't care, you seem to reply a lot
>>532498040So US bases in the ME are only for tankers?
>>532498157You won tranny
Recycle thread Move when you want>>532488267>>532488267>>532488267>>532488267
>>532498167there's no such thing as a war crime, and we're not subject to international law lmfaothe concept is just silly >>532498190I'm going to bed in like an hour, nothing else to do. >>532498202>liberals now admit trannys are ridiculousthat's progress :)
>>532497846>source?A warhead barely being hypersonic on reentry is not the same as a hypersonic missile. It's really not that difficult of a concept to grasp
>>532498167Oh you thought he was just joking
>>532497645>And they are all too scared to say no to him.when you deal with a narcissist in power you do, especially when the person is becoming senile
>>532497971>nobody is this retardedwhat about that norwegian who thinks NATO doesn't inure 90% to europe's beneift? he's pretty dumb>>532498064nobody was authorizing a 100+ man raid into the iranian mainland besides the commander in chief, retard.didn't I just teach you this?enjoy your sabotage fantasies loser
>>532497525I just feel bad for you. Stone age thinking.
>>532498077that's the most retarded theory ever.to even begin to think about attempting the famed uranium heist, you need CARGO HELICOPTERS, not the tiny shits they brought that are only capable of carrying a crew of 6(+ tip), and are only used because they are small enough to fit in a fucking jet. even the fucking iranians are admitting that a pilot was there and that the operation was indeed a rescue. all they dare to shitpost about is how much money saving him cost, thereby betraying their shittyness of their skin.>hahaha dumb americans, a human life isn't worth a jet and some helis!>we would never spend more than 5 rupees to save the life of one of our soldiers!>wait, why are people disgusted with us, we're right!
>>532498064Doesn't the V-22 exist so the US never has to do an Eagle Claw again? And then they just did another, equally disastrous Eagle Claw?
>23 years down the drain>worth it>"those bases are still operational"as always, there's nothing more convincing if you want people to hate kikes than showing them kike behavior>>532498242oh it was scarcely hypersonic now, eh? my mistake, i must have thought some shitskins in israel were getting bombed
>>532497997Russia was before it wasn't. The idea of a close economic partnership being better than adversarial politics was the status quo after the soviet union fell. The idea was that economic ties would deter hostility. That was proven wrong. And no, I do not buy for a second that Russia has a right to a sphere of influence or a right to its former lands in any capacity. NATO encroachment was justified, and involvement in Ukrainian politics was justified. Russia has no right to a sphere of influence in any capacity. Ukraine has the right to self-determination that supercedes anything in the Kremlin's egomanical worldview. >>532498101>incoherent insults>not a single argumentYou are legitimately so retarded it's pathetic
>>532498111>The US bases are still operational.Depends on which base, plenty have been abandoned. Not soft targets, with damage done by drones and missiles. Of course closer combat would yield more kills. If the drones and missiles are so weak, why are US ships still hiding far away? Why are they not attempting to go through the strait?
>>532498335or HEAVY LIFT CARGO AIRCRAFT, bring some better pilpul sanchez
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>>532498200No, but we have no idea where fighters and smaller aircraft takeoff because there’s no transponders. The tankers keep their transponders on unless they are in enemy territory. The smaller aircraft can also resupply in carriers…
>>532498348>>532497611 is right, assumning the video is the right speed that's not a hypersonic, it's a regular ballistic. the hypersonics come in 2-4x as fast
>>532498353no one cares norgay
>>532497673You still think the "west" are the nato losers. When, In the eyes of the rest of the world, the "west" now IS RUSSIA. You lost your "white european" card. You have been living in that fucking retarded game of "Russia is not european lol"... But Ukraine is? Turkey is? The rest of the world doesn't get your inside trolling retardation. For the rest of the world TODAY the white civilization is represented by RUSSIA. And that's all YOUR fuckup. YOU did that. Now you have to live on Russia's shadow for the foreseeable future. Russia will have to save Europe again, same as they did when Constantinople fell, and it fell because of the (((SAME))) people: the jews from Venice. Now again, the jews from Lodon and NY made Europe to fall, this time, irremediably, if it wasn't for Russia, then Europe would be hopeless today. Problem is, Russia doesn't give a fuck about you cucks now. You will have to crawl to get back in the world's big boys game.
>>532498305>nobody was authorizing a 100+ man raid into the iranian mainland besides the commander in chief, retard.not how operational command actually works in the US army>didn't I just teach you this?You don't know enough to teach anyone anything, you're just a retard.>>532498341It was Eagle Claw or Yontan airport. I think the delta guys found an excuse to fuck up in a way that made it possible to back out while some of them were still alive.
>>532498305>what about that norwegian who thinks NATO doesn't inure 90% to europe's beneift? he's pretty dumbYou are aware that most of the defence budget of Norway goes to intelligence capacity to monitor the northern fleet and the ICBMs that target you, not us?I say you do not understand the posture of NATO or what the partnership entails, or how much money you spend on NATO-related defence.>muh defence budgetYou have a worldwide posture, you do not spend a fraction on the defence of Europe compared to Europe itself. The entire discussion is usually covered with MAGA-tier brainrot.
>>532497545thank you for linking this
>everyone: hey US government pedophiles, when are you going to stop making threats and start collection on them again?>US government pedophiles: s-soon! two weeks at most! trust the plan, keep voting, please don't shoot my kids at their private school to send a message! >>532498476lots of 'i don't like how this looks (jewish opinion)', not a lot evidence. is it coming soon? Also, is one of you little niggers gonna make the next thread, or do I have to do that, too?
MAGA tards have never understood NATO and will never understand that they are goycattle being herded by Interests that do not align with them.Europe is a punching bag and a political tool devised to deflect against introspection.
>>532495038why is that?
>>532498353>That was proven wrong. when and how?i seem to recall a period of european prosperity (albeit punctuated by the '08 crisis)>And no, I do not buy for a second that Russia has a right to a sphere of influence or a right to its former lands in any capacitynot a right to their former lands, no, but they can certainly be expected to try to maintain some influence on their immediate neighbors, at least insofar as making sure they are not hostile. everyone does that. how do you think the us would react to mexico trying to join a defense alliance with china? how would germany react to poland getting a 100% pro-russian government? >NATO encroachment was justified, and involvement in Ukrainian politics was justifiedno, it wasn't.there WAS a promise not to expand nato eastwards("not another inch"), let alone RIGHT TO THEIR FUCKING DOORSTEP, and cutting off their access to the black sea.ukraine being couped and trying to join nato was essentially a cuban missile crisis + petrol blockade of japan pre-ww2 for russia, no shit they freaked. >Ukraine has the right to self-determinationthey have a right to make their own laws and govern their shit however they want, surebut nato joining noises when right next door to russia is absolutely fucking asking for trouble which is why nobody there was dumb enough to do that shit until the coup
I'm not giving a (you) if you can't read. The warheads on ballistic missiles have been capable of reaching hypersonic speeds on reentry since the 60s. Reentry/dive speed is not what makes a missile hypersonic
>>532498778The American right seemed to understand it until the 2000s when asshurt over European criticism of the Iraq War completely buck broke them.
>>532498891concession acceptedNEW THREAD, NIGGERS>>532498926>>532498926>>532498926>>532498926>>532498926
>>532498850>but nato joining noises when right next door to russia is absolutely fucking asking for troubleIt was fine when Estonia joined, a country just a couple hours drive from Russia's second largest citySounds like cope
>>532498558your high effort gaslighting meant I almost forgot that only the president can authorize the first major raid into iranian territory involving america's most important assetsbut then I remembered, thank goodness
>>532498778>>532498594You're both idiots. The US's involvement in Europe allows Europe to have extremely inefficient militaries since they know the US could just shift part of its massive global empire to defend Europe, or at least that was the idea. Europe's military budgets are disproportionately administrative costs rather than actually going towards combat power. That being said the US does not do this for Europe's benefit, Europe being part of NATO is mostly a welfare program for American weapons manufacturers. Nothing about NATO is actually designed to defend Europe, but that doesn't mean that the Europeans are the ones defending themselves.>>532498948Up until the 90s there was at least the threat of the Soviet Union. Then when the cold war ended the US wanted to go back to being a normal country in a normal time and get rid of the costly and wasteful empire. Unfortunately the MIC and neocons dragged us into the GWOT and here we are today.
>>532499151>only the president can authorizeand only congress can declare war, what's your point?
>>532498594hey there he is kekimagine being a norwegian politician, trying to keep american assets around to obviate your need for a real military, while 80% of your people believe shit like this
>>532498970it wasn't fine, but estonia/lithuania/latvia *together* are less than half of ukraines size, less than a fifth of the population, and less than a third of border length. russia could swallow those, but not ukraine. and definitely not ukraine AFTER already having nato expand to the baltics. again, the promise given to russia was that nato wouldn't expand eastward. the promise was broken repeatedly, until eventually russia said enough is enough.
>>532499224you concede that only the president can authorize the first major raid into iranian territory involving america's most important assets.sorry that your sabotage fantasies didn't hold up to scrutiny. to be fair, you losers were fucked long before the first bomb fell.
>>532498850>when and how?Primarily, 2014 marked the political shift. The idea of close economic ties deterring hostilities was shattered.This is undeniable, and ever since 2014, the Russian intelligence services have run a massive hybrid warfare campaign against Europe. To think we can ever let our guard down again is retarded.>>532498850>at least insofar as making sure they are not hostileRussia is not a superpower, nor is it a power that respects international law or norms. It has no right to a sphere of influence. I reject the comparisons. There are plenty of borders around the world where East and West meet. >there WAS a promise not to expand nato eastwardsNo, there was not. There was an idea put out there by one administration. Not a promise put into any treaty. And you really want to compare Russian lies and hypocrisy with those of the Western powers? >RIGHT TO THEIR FUCKING DOORSTEPI do not give a fuck.>which is why nobody there was dumb enough to do that shit until the coupThey have had the stated aim since 2002. I personally think they should have been let in by 2005. I do not respect Russian interests in this regard. Neither should you.>>532499263cope more.>>532499193It was a welfare program for the US MIC, and that is ending. 80% of EU arms purchases are now mandated by law to go to European projects. Can't trust the US anymore.
>>532499399>you concede that only the president can authorize the first major raid into iranian territory involving america's most important assets.Do you think congress declared war?>sorry that your sabotage fantasies didn't hold up to scrutiny.Dude, why are you pretending to not understand what I'm saying? You can't possibly actually be this dumb can you?>>532499477>It was a welfare program for the US MIC, and that is ending. 80% of EU arms purchases are now mandated by law to go to European projects.Demand side subsidies just increase costs without increasing production. You can't fix your militaries until you get rid of the Keynesian notions which are destroying your economies and societies.
>>532497311Yeah they are getting better and better.
>>532499582>Keynesian notionsWe will see. I am not a fan of Military Keynesianism in any respect. But I do believe in ensuring European manufacturing in defence as the benefits are undeniably necessary for times with shifting alliances.
>>532499477>2014 marked the political shift.so, the coup that turned ukraine into a cia lackey and caused russia to stop playing ball with europe?how retarded are you?>Russia is not a superpowertheir big ass nuclear arsenal, army, navy, airforce, and self-sufficiency in energy and resources suggest otherwise.>nor is it a power that respects international law or normsright, and the us does? or europe, for that matter?where was international law when we took down gaddafi?or when the west gleefully supported color revolutions in half of MENA?>No, there was not. Not a promise put into any treaty. yes, there was, and no, it wasn't formally put into any treaty, but stillyou can't be the russian gov and look at picrel and not go "hey, wait a fucking minute" >And you really want to compare Russian lies and hypocrisy with those of the Western powers? what lies and hypocrisy? when did russia threaten ANY european country pre-2014? i don't seem to recall anything of the sort>I do not give a fuck.yea, well, they do not give a fuck even moreand now ukraine is depopulated, and petrol is > 2euro/liter, and god knows what our heating bills will look like this winter>I do not respect Russian interests in this regard. Neither should you.i respect EUROPEAN interests. which include a friendly russia selling us their energy and buying our cars and neither one of us wasting money and people fighting a pointless war with each other.
>>532500183Fundamentally disagree. I do not see them as a CIA lackey in that respect. I do not respect Russia as you do. No point in continuing, as baseline reality is pretty far apart.
