why did it all happen a few miles from the Iranian nuke reactor?why would you land 2 c130s for 1 pilot?why were c130s used if choppers (1 little hawk and blackhawk destroyed) could reach it?why use c130s, which need long flat runways and are slow to take off?
>25 miles>a few
faggot op
>>532509922You don't need C-130s to rescue a pilot. But enriched uranium, it could be UF6, in gas form. So large gas containment cylinders. I could not get info on what kind of containment system Iran uses, but the smallest ones are 100 pound units and Iran would have dozens of them. So, C-130s. And the iranians shot them down. I guess the place had air defenses that Trump said no longer exist. By a miricale, no US service people in all those helicopters and C-130s were casualties in any way, and the COL weapons officer flying second seat on the F16 was rescued.. Tl:dr got our asses kicked and trump made up a bullshit cover-story that is laughably stupid.
>>532510037It was the first phase of their ground operation and failed spectacularly. They were supposed to setup a makeshift base that would continuously be reenforced and defended. Instead they were immediately attacked and needed rescue.
that's a rough 25 miles and they would likely have to trek around the mountains a bit unless they had something to carry the cargo.
>Trump lies about everything againI am shocked, truly shockedI expect better from a glorified real estate agent
>>532509922Good call.Seymour Hersh will tell us all about it 3 years from now in the New Yorker.
>>532510037fat fuck detected
>>532509922I think they were getting ready to snatch Uranium and then when the guy in the back seat (he wasn't a WSO, he was apparently a full colonel) didn't get rescued, they pulled the trigger on the half ready OP and used the resources they had on hand to try and rescue him.
>>532510459>>532510037see the many pictures of destroyed choppers, retards
>>532509922shut up with this mudnigger fanfic copeNarrative crafting is commonly employed within QAnon and related conspiracist activities to frame the movement's alleged "evidence" as being plainly visible to those "awake," while others remain blind.It is often used to suggest that monumental, world-changing events are currently happening, but mainstream media and "unawakened" individuals are failing to perceive them.It acts as a cognitive tool, similar to the concept of "if you didn't see it, it didn't happen," encouraging followers to trust their perceived, secret knowledge over reality.It reinforces a sense of exclusivity, intellectual superiority, and "insider" knowledge among followers, making them feel they have accessed forbidden truths that are "right in front of our eyes".It often appears in debates where followers claim "evidence" exists, but cannot produce it, blaming the listener's lack of awareness or allegiance for not seeing it.>kike shill glownigger linda ronstadt ect
>>532509922Because the plane that was shot down, thus forcing the pilots to eject in the vicinity, was involved with operations around the uranium site, perhaps as a prelude to a ground op. If anything the rescue mission made a ground op more difficult as one staging site has been revealed. Or could wet the appetite for more ground ops now that Iran's ineffectiveness has been demonstrated.
>>532510459How much can the baby choppers they brought in carry?
>>532511502This.
>"we rescued the pilot at the Isfahan nuclear development mountain complex 124miles from where the F15 went down!!! thankfully 1 pilot was insta-rescued and the other brave hero™ proceeded to scale 5200ft of mountain elevation and 120+ miles of distance on foot, injured (for fun jus to prove it could be done), with nothing more than the clothes on his back, a folding AR+1 magazine, a slim-jim, some sun-tan lotion and an MRE!!!!!!!!!!!!" >the the locals threw him in the back of their Toyota™ and drove him up the mountain into Isfahan and dumped him out the bed of the truck at the cave or whatever fox news is reporting he hid in for 48hrs untill the rescue team of c130s showed up, detonated their entire rescue mission, then waited for the 3rd rescue mission to show up in (((aircraft unknown))) to extract everyone, plus 2 c130 aircrew+2heli-pilots+2 SealTeam rescue chad squads and the injured F15 WSO backseater bro, who survived the eject, and hoofed it 120 miles to the extract with no sleep no food and no rest an no stopping!>he totally just drifted away in the air after ejecting, the F15 was going to so fast and the air currents were so strong it just blew him away like a balloon!" theres never been anything like it before!!!!I cant wait for the movie™
>>532511626>could wet the appetite for more ground ops now that Iran's ineffectiveness has been demonstrated.What do you mean Iran's ineffectiveness has been demonstrated? The US just fucked off with heavy losses in materiel and I strongly suspect there were dead Americans and the US just isn't admitting it.
>>532509922Yep
>>532509922It sounds retarded but I believe it. Because trump is all about optic. They need a win. If they managed to get the uranium trump could just come out and says, mission accomplished, we won, we got what we want and now we out. War over boys.
>>532509922NIGGER-ANIMALS. STOP TRYING TO THINK, ITS NOT YOUR JOB. LET ME HOLD YOUR HANDS.1. >why did it all happen a few miles from the Iranian nuke reactor?25 miles is not a few miles, + its behind a mountain and this runway has been identified for months as a base for covert ops. additionally, 200 km from the crash site makes it SAFER for americans, as iranians would EXPECT americans to deploy near the crash site i.e. nigger-animal strategic mistake. finally, our most maneuverable, lightest, tactical helicopter, the little bird has a RANGE OF NEARLY 500KM, easily getting there and back. 2. >why would you land 2 c130s for 1 pilot?its called REDUNDANCY each c130 can carry dozens of operators and upto 4 little birds. mission probably required 1 c130, 1 little bird minimum, but only a NIGGER-ANIMAL like you would send the minimum number of planes required. even this level of redundancy wasnt enough, and according to trumps tweet, they were in Iran for 7 HOURS which you dont know about because youre a NIGGER-ANIMAL.3. >why were c130s used if choppers (1 little hawk and blackhawk destroyed) could reach it?? AND THEN WHAT NIGGER? They needed man power, 30+ to secure and defend the stranded pilot. are you suggesting they send 5-6 little birds and/or blackhawks directly from kuwait? are you a nigger-animal? the same kuwait thats being heavily monitored and bombarded via chinese satellite imagery? ALSO: we officially don't know what helicopters were sent. this is the iranian report, but a blackhawk would make a lot of sense as they can fly low and far with tons of firepower. 4. >why use c130s, which need long flat runways and are slow to take off?this point was your greatest failure, and shows your lack of intellect and curiosity. they USED A 4000+ ft AIRSTRIP. that is very 'LONG AND FLAT', and almost certainly, we already have several deeply embedded agents and special operators on the ground who confirmed the runways LONG AND FLATNESS.
>>532509922No, they got'em.
>>532511994>schizo screeching with no concept of operationsdude, you talk like you've spent the last four years on /k/ listening to NAFO.
>>532512110WOW GOOD POINTS! IVE BEEN PROVEN WRONG AND IM SO SORRY!
>>532509922>why did it all happen a few miles from the Iranian nuke reactor?because we're not ju->why would you land 2 c130s for 1 pilot?you have to let me finish, because here in America we're not ju->why were c130s used if choppers (1 little hawk and blackhawk destroyed) could reach it?seriously let me finish, I said because here in American we do things a little bi->why use c130s, which need long flat runways and are slow to take off?SHUT THE FUCK UP
>>532512208I ain't reading all that shit and nobody else is, you're obviously just a ranting schizophrenic from the first sentence. I skimmed the rest which is a lot more than anyone else is going to bother with, just out of morbid curiosity.
>>532512351ladies and gentleman, the nigger-animal manifest.
>>532511994>c130s used if choppers (1 little hawk and blackhawk destroyed) could reach itThey ferried the Littlebirds there. The smaller plane they sent once it became clear the C-130s weren't getting unstuck from the sand didn't have enough room (2x Littlebirds), so the leftover got scuttled (at least according to the Teamhouse guy) with the C-130s. The Sarah Adams follow up talked about supposed friendly Tehran hostile locals helping out by traffic jamming the roads and dragging their feet on dragnets.
>>532511994>200 km from the crash site makes it SAFER for americans, as iranians would EXPECT americans to deploy near the crash siteThe Crash site was closer to Kuwait then it was to the landing strip in Isfahan. Why didn't the helicopers just fly back to Kuwait instead of to an even further location further inside Iran?
>>532512896And Airforce was fucked off about losing airframes out of production, especially the Littlebird (Ward Carroll, ex F-15 pilot), being huge faggots, of course.
>wins>y-you failed
>>532512923its called 'RADAR' - high tech systems which can detect even stealthy aircraft at high altitudes. one way to avoid RADAR detection is what? - once you google that, ask yourself if its safe to do so from kuwait. you will need to look at a map to determine that, as you have no sense what so ever of basic geography.
>>532512351>in a jarohnononono
>>532512896>The Sarah Adams follow up talked about supposed friendly Tehran hostile locals helping out by traffic jamming the roads and dragging their feet on dragnets.So they compromised their local assets for this when those assets could have been used in the actual snatch operation? Ouch.
>>532512896>supposed friendly Tehran hostile locals helping out by traffic jamming the roads and dragging their feet on dragnets.very interesting and I assumed as much. still surprised they got 'stuck in the sand' though. i still think its more likely got disable via enemy fire or mechanical malfunction. the airstrip looked pristine on maps, and local friendlies would have informed us about sandiness. also, if it was so sandy, how were we able to come back with another transport plane and successfully take off where 2 others failed? its possible the C295 spotted was used for exfil, which is much smaller and supposedly designed for sandy takeoff.
They changed their tactics then.
>>532510037Why yes for aerial operations 25 miles is basically right next door. But it is also far enough away that ground forces will have significant trouble locating the base. But something went wrong. They were discovered and lost two planes and four little birds…. And most likely quite a few people.
>>532510037Don't worry, marines have mobility scooters.
>>532513953The air strip was 5km from the highway. 30km from an army base.
>>532510174Yep im expecting Fort brag to have a rash of suicides and ODs and mysterious deaths in the next few months…>>532511994The little bird is NOT capable of running a search and rescue sweep pattern loaded out with guys are a range if 200km. And it would be lunacy to send it with just a pilot. So no. These were for a commando raid, and the closest high value target was Ishfan. So thats where they were going. And then they took incoming fire which punched holes in their planes leaving them inoperable, but somehow missed all the spec ops guys…… or CENTCOM is lying again.
The night was cold, you could hear planes landing for miles in that valley. Iran doesn't have an air force anymore. Planes means Americans are coming.
>532511625https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/text/Narrative%20crafting%20is%20commonly%20employed%20within%20QAnon/How much does he get paid to post here all day?
>>532514066And? 5km is a LONG way to walk across broken ground. And at night there is little likelihood of being seen at 5km. By people driving in cars tangentially. The army base is even less of a worry as the roads from there to the airbase were bombed. And the roads inoperable.>>532512896Stop the lies. The ground was NOT sandy. It was NOT muddy. It was dry packed earthen ground with what amounts to gravel on top. Oh and mud/sand doesnt punch holes in the fusilage.
>>532514146>The little bird is NOT capable of running a search and rescueWhat if their mission was to block traffic on the highway between Shahreza and Isfahan? There could have been other landings the same night that went undetected because nothing crashed.
>>532513018>hehe we are winning!!>PLEASE AAAAA WHY WON'T THE WORLD HELP US ABLOO ABLOO ABLOO!!
>>532509922what baseless conspiracy the pilot was just minding his own business flying around for fun
>>532510191Yup exactly this. How the fuck they thought it would work is beyond me. Maybe they were counting on them being entirely disorganized, as if at least a random villager wouldnt hear and call in the government. Maybe they were relying on it not being able to go up the chains. This could have worked if they hadn't put the entire country on high alert before doing it.
Narrative crafting is commonly employed within QAnon and related conspiracist activities to frame the movement's alleged "evidence" as being plainly visible to those "awake," while others remain blind.It is often used to suggest that monumental, world-changing events are currently happening, but mainstream media and "unawakened" individuals are failing to perceive them.It acts as a cognitive tool, similar to the concept of "if you didn't see it, it didn't happen," encouraging followers to trust their perceived, secret knowledge over reality.It reinforces a sense of exclusivity, intellectual superiority, and "insider" knowledge among followers, making them feel they have accessed forbidden truths that are "right in front of our eyes".It often appears in debates where followers claim "evidence" exists, but cannot produce it, blaming the listener's lack of awareness or allegiance for not seeing it.>kike shill glownigger linda ronstadt ect
>>532514181>Iran doesn't have an air force anymoreThey have like 90% of it
>>532514373Ai
>>532514146>The little bird is NOT capable of running a search and rescue sweep pattern loaded out with guys are a range if 200kmtheres no need for a fucking pattern search. GO READ MORE NIGGER. the pilot had a CIA sat radio and we had his precise location.
>>532514391Well then they should stay grounded and shoot anything that flies.
>>532514431autism, faggot.
>>532511182What do you mean? This never happens. Trump is a good muslim. Insha'Allah!
>>532514310Yeah, no. The USAF already hit various roads around the area 28 times and out them out of order. A flying traffic blocker from little birds is retarded. However CAS for a commando raid. THAT is LITERALLY what they were designed for. And with the stated five C-130:>1 for 2 little birds plus some crew>1 for another 2 little birds plus some crew>3 carrying a company of special ops soldiers.This was a special ops company sized raid. Larger than what delta went into Mogadishu with btw. But somewhere along the line before they could strike they themselves were struck and the mission was scrubbed and 2 C-130s and 4 little birds plus an unknown number of special ops soldiers are no more.
>>532509922Yup. He wanted to break the news that they just went in and took a bunch of enriched uranium because thats generally how people do that.Since it didnt work they are going to parade their gigantic blunder around pretending they didnt lose 10 aircrafts pretending to save someone
>>532514441Lmao you have no idea how CSAR works do you?
>>532511826Holy shit! I figured out who it was!
>>532514348>>532510191just shut the fuck up you guys are embarrassing yourselves. they aren't 'makeshift base that would continuously be reenforced and defended' hundred's of miles inland near a city of 2 million holy shit. the depths of your demented retardation is unbelievable
>>532514441>The Jerusalem PostMust be real
>>532514281Anon it's an old agricultural strip and the valley is silt... It was just a dumb place to land a c130
>>532514310The nuclear facility is next to an international airport... I think they would have noticed them coming. They were probably hoping to use the mountains as cover but the whole thing seems fucking retarded
>>532514721>Anon it's an old agricultural stripI think its weird that it isn't on any map I looked at so far.
>>532514629>youseemupset.jpeg
>>532509922scuttling over 200 million dollars worth of planes is pretty suspicious.
>>532514827What why? It's a private strip for the farms next door that doesn't get used anymore... It's on Google maps what more do you want?
>>532514863yeah sorry, i just want a better board. this place influences culture somehow and we should shit on retards.
>>532509922>successful uranium heist>we saved the pilot AND took their uranium! HOORAH!!>unsuccessful uranium heist>we found and extracted the 2nd pilot with minimal casualties. Leave no man behind! HOORAH!!
>>532514974Agricultural air strips are a lot smaller. That one in Iran is most like a municipal airport.
>>532515207No retard it's for the farms beside it. There is an international airport in isfahan. Every single reference to is says it's agricultural
>>532515147Quick, post some more jew new sources to prove your psychotic opinions moshe
>>532515150There surely must be more to this plan... The minis only hold a max of 6 people and that would put them at their weight limit which would make transporting 1000kg of uranium a little difficult. Also are you then loading them back on the fucking planes because they don't have the range to get to safety? It doesn't matter what their intentions this seems like one of the dumbest fucking plans imaginable no wonder the generals quit
>>532515294300 meter dirt air strips are marked on the map in Ukraine. Why isn't an improved surface 4 times longer marked in Iran?
>>532514348Chuck Norris called the president on his deathbed and gave it the nod. Both Hegseth and Trump then played the Delta Force music at full volume for an hour while touching circumcised willies. From there on in. It was on.
>>532511994>look, it just makes sense that a guy walks 200km over a mountain with a messed up leg in 1 day in hostile territory, it just does
It obvious, that why they wanted ceasefire so badly. they wanted to pull this off. but decide to go anyway after iran didn't budge
>>532515648Tis but a stroll
>>532515686Maybe he hitchhiked with secret Iranian lesbians that wanted freedom.
>>532510174And the Iranians are keeping quiet about this because...?
>>532511994Forget all this schizobabble. How did the (most likely banged up) pilot of a downed aircraft walk through 100 miles of desert and mountainous terrain? It was a failed ground op disguised as a CSAR for plausible deniability and you should continue seething about it.
>>532512351nafo seems like a good ideahaving a shiba in a jar does not seem like a good idea
>>532514545>an unknown number of special ops soldiers are no moreWhere are the bodies? Iran would announce having them.
>>532516052Probably because like everyone else they are trying to figure out what the fuck the plan actually was... If mushy dirt is the only thing that kept them from getting their shit pushed in they probably don't have much to brag about. Plus they probably also realize what that strip is next to and have some resources to move.
>>532516297>Where are the bodies?A good question for General Roger Cloutier.
>>532511994Do more drugs.
>>532510040Lol why seethe? You know the tales you eglin niggers spin are ridiculous
>>532512110Holy kek
>>532516297>Iran would announce having them.Iran doesn't owe you shit, fucko.
>>532514146>>532510174>Yep im expecting Fort brag to have a rash of suicides and ODs and mysterious deaths in the next few months>>532449837
>>532509922https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4K8381dCBc
>>532516384>Plus they probably also realize what that strip is next to and have some resources to move.I hope the Iranians don't fall for the old "let's see which pocket you keep your wallet in" routine.
>>532516430Thank God my dad got fired holy shit
>>532509922note to the iranians lurking. you can deploy a truck full of sand to foil the americans. just pour it on their makeshift runaway and the planes get stuck :) bonus if you rig the truck to explode. remote control that shit
>>532509922they didn't want to fly helicopters 200 miles into central iran because they wouldn't fly out alive.
>>532514629>they aren't 'makeshift base that would continuously be reenforced and defended' hundred's of miles inlandDien Bien Phu intensifies
>>532510191>They were supposed to setup a makeshift base that would continuously be reenforced and defended.iran can hit israel with missiles, why would iran not blow up a make shift US base in the middle of its own territory?
>>532514625Oh shit is that ya boy hemmingway?
>>532510174>By a miricale, no US service people in all those helicopters and C-130s were casualtiesMiracle = they lied about it
>>532514629It was Trumps direct command he got idea from Levin. Some generals said wtf and got fired.
first of all, why do americans assume than iran didn't move their uran somewhere else? this assumption is totally illogical and absolutely IDIOTICfor all we know all of that uran could already be partitioned into different containers and spread all over the country, that's just basic sense
>>532520281Right? I think they want a propaganda win. They'll capture 10kg of uranium at one site and declare victory. Then the war will restart under the next Republican president.
>>532509922So how is this not a war crime?
>>532519054they would, which is why it was a retarded idea that a bunch of americas generals quit over.
>>532511826you been drank the jet fuel™ m9
>>532522087has asmond questioned anything the government says regarding this conflict?
>>532509922>so it was a failed uranium snatch right?>yfw all uranium in Iran comes from DU bullets from A-10s
