Americans still can't explain why free healthcare is bad.
Americans are sadistic people that love to see others suffering.
>>532510898>free
>>532510898the quality of public health care is universally bad, europeans just think long waiting times and bad quality is how things are, and they imagine americans paying for that moreit's a general joke in the uk that nhs care level is giving paracetamol for everythingat the same time american care is horribly overpriced.the best balance is in East Asia and in the Gulf. You get better than American healthcare but at low prices. Same MRI can be 100x cheaper in China compared to America.
>>532511005never look up how much you pay to line the insurance company's pockets migger
>>532511112It's literally just because the west allows pharma to price gouge as much as they want. If every govt on earth stopped being retarded on the issue and forced these producers and companies to lower their prices they would. They're currently making tons of profit. Nationalization is necessary.
>>532510898The European should say "neither do i"
>>532511247Never look up how much you pay for the "free" healthcare
>>532510898Why does Eglin airforce base love this meme so much? I’ve seen this spammed here for at least 7 years
>>532510898What they call "free" here is not free at all. They take a cut out of our paychecks monthly, services suck, few medicine is still compensated, doctors are pushers for big pharma drugs and are getting a cut of sales so we are forced to opt for private services.
>>532511112We don't care what Europeans think any more. They've allowed their civilization to be taken over by Jihadist invaders. Until they sort that out, we have zero respect for them. Trying to argue with 90% of Europe is a waste of time. Their people are beyond demoralized. Intergenerational cucking has completely drained them of the will to stand up for anything virtuous, even the basic animal values of self-preservation. They are essentially told they must care for every foreigner, and many of them go along with it. Euros are educated in self-destructive nihilism from birth, and the fruit of this despondency is a complete spiritual collapse of the continent.The reality is, Europe is just becoming a satellite continent for Africa and the Middle East. There is no visible assimilation or even an attempt at it. Europeans are nothing but the dogs of Muslims. They have established themselves as the ruling class in Europe, they live there, but are not subject to European laws or values, while native Europeans exist to serve them and must placate their every whim.A Muslim can mass murder dozens of Europeans. And what is their instinct? Mourn for their dead brothers and sisters? Desire revenge? Make sure it doesn't happen again by getting them out? No. When an attack happens, Europeans don't shed tears for the dead. They shed tears thinking about the backlash against Muslims. They cry about how, "oh, this attack will cause the far right to be more popular!" Meanwhile they reassure themselves that we are all human while Muslims laugh at them for being weak spineless cucks and blatantly take advantage of them, proudly sucking Europe dry.It is like they want to go extinct. They hate themselves more than anything else in the world. A continent of useless, self hating pussies who somehow think they are also superior to the rest of the world because they care about "muh human rights" (lel)
>>532510898i hope ziggers rape and kill the right wolf.
>>532510898>freeSomeone pays for it anon. And it’s always us. The royal us. The collective. Or if you would to prefer to think of it as>someone elseBut you would be deluded. Morale of the story is>someone always paysAnd if you don’t know then it’s probably you.
>>532511258I don't give a fuck what you and every other leftist bastard in the West who worships Communist China has to say. Like most Westerners, you're nothing more than a dirty, self-hating, nigger-loving anti-white leftist faggot who does nothing when young girls are groomed and children are surrounded by packs of blacks and browns and attacked. Islam is your moral compass. Go fuck yourself asshole, then go fuck yourself more, you vile kike piece of shit.
>>532511005Spbp
>>532510898>>532510967>Pay 60% of your paycheck to the government. Government gives you shitty services. It’s free!
>>532511258American problem is the opposite. In the 70s the government literally made it illegal to create competing hospitals, each population amount was only allowed one.The two main worst laws are Certificate of Need (CON) laws (competition is illegal) and the McCarran-Ferguson Act allowing healthcare insurers to legally collude.Then there's the entire business of extreme payouts in medical cases. It sounds good if someone gets $10M for a medical error, but it increases the costs for everyone.
>>532510967>suffering is when an individual actively engages in harmful activities instead of doing literally anything elseNo. That's "self harm."
>>532510898All they have to do is break up the insurance monopolies and they'll be back to 1950s prices.Keep your death panels and decaying infra.
>>532510898>Americans still can't explain why free healthcare is bad.Socialized medicine is already 1/3rd of the budget. We have $39 TRILLION in debt and our politicians are owned by the medical industry lobby.Exactly how much more do you think we can afford to spend on "Free healthcare"? Half the budget? Maybe two thirds?
>>532510898This shit is cringe. The only reason many European countries can afford their vast welfare states are because of Pax Americana. If the U.S. wasn't watching their asses they may start fighting each other or other countries like Russia or Turkey. Once the American Empire collapses, some good things will happen, but Europeans won't be able to yuk it up about American healthcare, they'll have far more pressing issues.
>>532511708Still less of a racket than your healthcare industry.
>>532511247Who destroyed the insurance markets? The government
>>532510898>Americans still can't explain why free healthcare is bad.It doesn't benefit Israel.
>>532511783Agreed. But throwing more government money at the system isn't going to change that.
>it's awesome that every doctors office is full of a bunch of illegals who can't speak my countries language because of "free" healthcare>i love waiting 9 hours to be seen for my appointment 7 hours ago!At least in America only the emergency room is flooded with poorfags and spics.
>>532510898It’s not free. It’s covered by the US taxpayer. It’s not my responsibility to help pay for the healthcare costs of an unhealthy fat fuck who doesn’t even care about their own health to not be an unhealthy fat fuck.
>>532511833Right. You can't stop a systemic scam by giving the scammers more money but they have us by the balls through lobby groups.We can't just build our own medical services that are also free.
>>532511005Dumbest mutt on 4chan award.
The yurocucks got us here boysOur Healthcare system is fucked royally fuckedHas been since Nixon
>>532510898Freehealth care would literally be anuddah shoah because that would mean tens of trillions spent on Americans instead of spent on wars in the middle east for Israel. It's literally antisemitism.
>>532511674You sound like a retarded ACT fag that has no idea what they're talking about.
>>532510898Free health care is a LARP. Bunch of retards LARPing about how superior their dogshit system is when in reality its a piece of trash 18 month wait time poor quality system clogged by immigrant hordes and staffed by immigrant hordes, with additional immigrant hordes trying to scam to the system with fake daycares, fake hospices and fake disability providers. Totally and utterly worthless except for a brief moment in time that has long past in every western nation.If I want healthcare I book a ticket to Thailand where its simply just better, zero wait and a fraction of the cost. Australia's "free healthcare" is utterly useless. Its cheaper/easier for me to buy prescription drugs off the gray market.
Americans worship death. That's why they support the baal worshiping nation that sacrifices babies.
>>532510898The government is too busy giving money away to shit countries like Israel or wasting money on defending shit continents like Europe while they ALL spit in our face.
>>532510898>Americans still can't explain why free healthcare is bad.Canada has death panels. MAID is some crazy shit dude.
>>532511783>Still less of a racket than your healthcare industry.Or NATO. Talk about a racket. Americans get fucked while Europe gets free defense. That way they can have free healthcare while rubbing my face in that fact I don't.
>>532510898>come on, anon>share the wealth>we can barely feel our toes>it's care, not enabling>you'll get coverage, too>i swear
>>532511708have you been to an american hospital? the outcomes are 3rd world.
>>532511744AND, venture capitalists took ALL the public hospitals (they may have been second class to some, but they were there) private and left a large vacuum where middle class and working class people had depended on for health care. When I was a child I went to a pediatrician and the co-pay was 25.00 the only time I needed insurance was if I wound up in the hospital. Once certain groups discovered people would pay ANYTHING to stay alive and healthy the costs skyrocketed. They tried to blame it on R&D that developed MRIs, and CAT scans, but that doesn't cover a fraction of what these assholes doctors and hospitals (and pharmaceutical companies) charge.
>>532511762Nobody called customer service.
>>532512546We pay for NATO. We are getting racketeered with this bullshit.You can disband the shitshow but you won't because it makes you shitloads of money.
>>532510898Because healing sick kids goes against America's satanic jewish religion.
>>532512814This post brought to you by Gen X: We Did Nothing and Everything is Your Fault™
>>532512297Odd thing to say. Not only do you imbue an attack on a present party, you also ad hom. How is any of that untrue? And further still, if we have universal healthcare (which is great desu) we then have an obligation to ensure the health of our people. But for whatever reason, we do not. And it’s costing us dearly. Also, you are a faggot and a nigger.
>>532512871Mmmm...hmmmm... NO I definitely want NATO gone it has become a bully. The Soviet Union and Warsaw Pact Nations have been gone for over 30 years, NATO it is pointless. Trust me I don't get shit from ANY government but a hard fucking time.
>>532512974You sound like a world-class whiner. I NEVER sat around blaming fucking people for the situation of my life. You know refuses to take personal responsibility? Niggers. And women. Which are you?
If you dont have enough money to pay a yearly salary for a doctor to treat you exclusively then healthcare isnt worth it.The medical profession are gatekeepers and their primary task is treating humans like cattle.just start robbing drug stores.doctors are ment to heal bureacracy more than people
>>532513034When I say you, I mean America including your MIC.
>>532510898I get a big chunk of my income deducted for healthcare. Why do people call it free? It isn't.
>>532510898Free Healthcare is good for tax positive citizens and whole families of ethnic European origin. Anything beyond that is going to be a festering cancer. Simple as.
>free
>>532512695Have I been to the country that I live in while you hide behind a meme flag in your mud hut? You stupid fuck. The greatest hospitals in the world are in America because we pay our doctors and surgeons more than the president of your shit hole.
>>532510898Who will pay for it?
>>532510898op is too stupid to understand that nothing is free
>>532510898Are Euroboomers as cringe as American ones?
>>532513454You, once you dismantle the insurance companies and PBMs scooping up 95% of your healthcare insurance money.
>>532510898We don't have free healthcare because the government has to pay for their BIG fucking war machine
>>532510898it's not free. unless you are a rapefugee
>>532511247which insurance company is making massive profits? what is their profit margin? do you even know? you ignorant brainwashed moron
>>532510898Ok on my pay of February :we start at 3600 euros- 468 euros for social security- 65 euros for death, disability, inability (to work)- 77 euros for additional healthcare- 308 euros for retirement social security- 76 euros for retirement social security- 191 euros for additional healthcare during retirement- 46 euros for additional healthcare during retirement- 189 euros for "family" (I don't have kids I have no idea what this is)- 153 euros for unemploymentetc.total : - 1795 eurosI could pay my own health insurance, my own retirement fund for way less than that.
>>53251441330 seconds in Google>https://www.certifi.com/blog/health-insurance-company-earnings-q1-2025/
>>532513097All you crusty Gen X fags ever do is bitch about everyone else. You're diet boomers, latchcucks forgotten and deprived of attention by your own parents, so you have this bullshit veneer of "apathy" when really you lash out at everyone else for the attention you never got as kids. You're about as worthless a generation as can be imagined; nobody even thinks about you insufferable twats until you bring yourselves up in conversation, and it's always combative against others for no better reason than an ignored toddler shoves his sippy cup off his high chair tray. Your time came and went and you didn't do shit to make the world a better place, you have zero fucking room to talk about why things are as bad as they are. You're just boomers but lazier.
>>532510898Euros get free healthcare because it's literally taken out of their paychecks. That's why the earning potential is so much lower compared to the US.This should be well-known to the point it's common sense but apparently not, at this point.
>>532511005>so what if you have to pay 35% in taxes for sub-basic Healthcare >are you really gonna complain about paying 45% of your paycheck for 3rd world treatments>60% withholdings is a bargain for used bandaids and aspirin
>>532511005Free at the point of service, yes. Why do Reddit brained faggots like you always pretend to not know what we’re talking about?
Americans will tell you with a straight face that public healthcare is more expensive while they pay amortized hundreds of thousands of dollars per hospital visit in insurance costs, if they don't get denied insurance in the first place.
>>532511708>>Pay 60% of your paycheck to the governmentWhy do burgers pretend this is a widespread thing? Also as if by the time you add health insurance they end up paying more than Europeans anyway.
>>532511780>US spends more on government healthcare than counties with universal healthcare That's because your pharma industry lobbies the government so they can charge thousands of dollars per pill for old medications that cost a couple cents in other countries, nurses get paid six figure salaries, hospitals are run by CEO's that get millions on bonuses, etc
>>532515490Americans with good employer provided health insurance pay over $3000 to have a kid in the hospital. I have 4 kids born in Europe, in two countries, and I've paid 0. I was unemployed when 2 of them were born kek.
>>532512026You don't get it; whether you do it indirectly through taxes or have the 'system' we have, it doesn't address the root of the issue; health is something you can weaponize against everyone for profit.I fitmly believe people should be treated the way they treat others. Take everyone doing this, whether it's a european grafter or US insurance exec, and make them play a game like in saw.Actually one of the saw movies was about this post, specifically.
>>532510898I can. Lonely old people clog up the system because they use sitting in the waiting room and talking to healthcare professionals as socialization. They also fleece the system as hard as they can. There's nothing more idiotic than tax payers paying the cancer treatments of someone in their last 5 years of life. This has happened in Finland, happened in Nazi Germany and would happen in the US, too.
>>532510898Sonny back in my day you had to give the doctor a firm handshake if you even wanted to be considered for healthcare. These kids today just don't want to WORK.
>>532514806>Amerimutts get perpetual warfare because it’s literally taken out of their pay cheques. That’s why Americans go bankrupt from copays and out of network expenses for literally any health problem. This is well known in America, but they have to die so the oil barons can live.How is it Americans are actually this stupid?
>>532511112>European healthcare BAD!>my example: the NHSEvery fucking time, Britbongs had 14 years of Tory "managed decline" deliberately gutting their NHS services while keeping it as expensive as possible for the taxpayer. (With the main goal of making it so shit and expensive privitizeation is the only remaining alternative) Obviously its gonna be a shit system when it has been made worse ON PURPOSE for 14 fucking years.NHS doesnt fucking count its in a corrupt third world country at this point
>>532510898It keeps niggers and boomers alive longer. There is said it. Now stop spamming this dogshit every day.
>>532511708>Pay 60% of your paycheck to private companies. They deny you coverage.
>>532511837>be American>Haha, stupid Europeans, waiting in queue for a few more hours>gets a cut>goes to hospital>receives bill of $20k+tip
>>532512026If the government is providing it, it's going to niggers and kikes.
>>532511708i pay 60% now and get nothing you kike faggot.
>>532516760They bill you and then you just dont pay it. You can even go in with proof of income and if you really cant pay it it just gets waived. I've never once paid for the hospital and I dont have insurance and my credit score is 780 with 0 debt and no collectors coming for me.
>>532510898I have mine and don't particularly feel like paying for Juan's. He can go back to his native Mexico for treatment.
>>532511596Yeah but how does your system work when someone loses their job, then gets medically fucked up? Or gets fucked up, then loses their job? Having your Healthcare tied to a shitty employer is fucking niggers.
is it true that mutts pay more for private healthcare but the company can refuse the claim and u have to pay hospital bills from your own pocket?
>>532510898No such thing as free healthcare
>>532510898It's actually simple, tranny.>Universal healthcare, America: Bad>Universal healthcare, Israel: Blessed
>>532510898>The average tax payer in British Columbia pays about $7,500 per year to fund public health care.I’ve been in the workforce for 17 years and have been to the hospital once in that time.$127,500 for 11 stitches.
>>532517280Yeah. Americans are cucked as fuck. Israel has free healthcare but we 'can't afford it' lol.
>>532516640>The British public is stuck with a decaying state because our taxes are funneled into propping up a bloated, post-imperial ego. That’s why we sit on 12-month waiting lists for basic surgery and can’t see a GP while the NHS is starved of funding. It’s common knowledge here, but the working class is expected to freeze in their homes just so energy CEOs can post record dividends.How is it the Brits are actually this passive?
>>532510898Except its not free.It's a double payment
>>532510898When (((leftists))) say "free" they actually mean white people will pay for everyone else's
>>532517542ok but Americans pay double the double payment, and are still billed 100k, so, there is that. American healthcare is actually subsidized more than Switzerland or Japan before they even add health insurance to the equation.
>>532510898>freeOnly if you're a no-taxes-paying nigger.
>>532510898Circumcised people can't explain why infant mutilation and torture are bad. Taxpayers can't explain why taxation is bad - they love to whine about it though, but they'll defend it with their lives.It's a brutally funny species.
>>532510898Socialized healthcare is fundamentally incompatible with capitalist democracy due to the nature of healthcare as a service. Successful health services result in longer lifespans and higher birthrates. This results in a larger, older population. The larger and older the population, the more money needs to be invested into healthcare. Voters are sometimes willing to tolerate increased taxes to receive increased services, but are unwilling to tolerate continuously increasing tax rates to maintain the same level of service. They're also unwilling to tolerate a decrease in coverage without an accompanying decrease in tax rate. Consequently, every attempt at socialized healthcare in a democracy follows the same pattern: the service is effective when initially established, but massively declines in quality over time as voters are unwilling to tolerate or vote for the increase in taxes or decrease in coverage that would be required to maintain that quality as the population expands and ages. You can look at every example of it in Canada or Europe to see this trend: initially successful, but after 2-3 generations it becomes increasingly underfunded and this results in horrific decay in its quality. Adopting socialized healthcare essentially requires adopting an authoritarian mode of government that can direct funding to it as needed without the approval of the people.
>>532515383You still pay taxes, so having free healthcare on side of them doesn't really change anything for you. But I guess you prefer your taxes going to Israel instead.
>>532510898Because we have insanely high costs, and the idea of having to pay taxes while already strapped tight with bills and other fees just so others can have healthcare is unpalatable.The society and our unique abuse of consumers by corporations has created a dynamic where universal healthcare, unless implemented with the utmost care and accompanied with other regulation, will simply result in a catastrophe + extra taxes.
>>532511005Why does your government spend more on nonfree healthcare doe?
>>532510898I look at Canada and the UK and I realize there is nothing more expensive than free
>>532511780>>532516088Yeah; but none of the people in our country who want more socialized medicine or "free healthcare" ever talk about bringing costs down. They just say tax the rich and spend more money oblivious to the fact that we're already spending huge amounts of money and its just getting scammed from us by the healthcare industry.The whole scam couldn't even happen without the government screwing us on behalf of the healthcare industry. Take the ridiculous drug prices you mentioned. The only reason they're possible is because our government keeps us from importing drugs that are already approved by our FDA from other countries. So effectively our own law enforcement is being used to keep our people from importing cheaper drugs solely so the pharma industry can screw us while preventing free market trade.Could socialized medicine work? Sure.Could it work in a country where the healthcare lobby owns your politicians? No.
>>532510898
>>532511112>the quality of public health care is universally bad,this is untrue. it has got worse but it varies quite a lot across the UK. strangely, in areas of greater ethnic diversity, the healthcare treatment is worse. odd!
>>532518087Our population is those countries combined you dumb chink plus we have niggers and other undesirables that never pay medical bills
>>532511005Niggers seething at this post
>>532519169Bleach, is there anything it can't do?
>>532510898>free healthcare>free>1pbtidon't bump this
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