Women seem oblivious to the concept of "practice GF's". Also, it turns out a bunch of you don't know either.There's absolutely nothing wrong with treating yourself to a practice GF, thats the first major point. It's possibly the only tried and tested viable autist-2-chad pipeline there is.No, its not a euphemism for a whore, thats gross.I think what upsets women the most about the concept when they hear about it isnt the ephemeral nature of it by design, but that it actually allows a man to upgrade himself, his persona and personality in a controlled slampig or uggo environment, and make his way up the chladder, leaving undesirable women down below.
>>532519742I only have eyes for stacy.
The concept is simple. Establish a looks-deficit relationship between yourself and a woman to switch on easy mode, in order to use her to practice appearing as a normal human being, so that by all standard measures, you eventually do become a normal human being. Its like training wheels for your human mask.
Its good advice. The real redpill is knowing that a lot of the guys with super high standards are incredibly insecure so they take long shots for "safe" rejections. Getting a no from a girl with or below them would crush their ego, so they longshot. Or theyre gay.Practice girlfriend for sex/relationship practice is a good idea, most people do this in highschool
>>532519920The road to Stacy is often paved with slam-oinkers that should be grateful for the experience
>>532519951>Practice girlfriend for sex/relationship practice is a good idea, most people do this in highschoolExactly. I was sick in my late teens so I missed this, but I'd be socially/romantically hopeless if I hadn't gone practice fishing in a barrel first
>>532519742you want practice gfs but you also want virgin gfs how does that work?
i want a little teen girl (10 years old), unless we get coalfax.gov soon.
>>532520749You want a virgin girlfriend specifically so they are inclined to pair bond with you instead of being mind fucked by a oneitis, but you also dont want to fuck up that kind of a windfall if you manage it by scaring her off, so you use a practice gf who has a wider tolerance for your idiosyncrasies due to her own low standing, in order to practice reigning in your idiosyncrasies, so that your likelihood of establishing and maintaining a relationship with the ideal gf when you ditch the practice GF is more likely.
despite being in this hateful shitpit for almost two decades now I cannot bring myself to hurt someone like that emotionally and demean them in real life that way through action, I am not spiteful enough nor do I have any resentment towards women so I don't want to play with their emotions like that even if they would be more than happy to do that to me.I may talk a big game on here, but I have too big of a heart to do that to someone.
>>532520938if men all start using girls as practice gfs then odds are your "virgin" gf is somebody's previous practice gf. you can't have it both ways.
>>532520948It doesnt mean you treat them badly. It just means when you're confident your human mask wont fall off, you kindly find a reason to break up.
>ITT chads/chad-lites bragging about taking undesirable skanks to practice with aka chad widow makers
>>532519742It's not that we don't know but we don't care. Stop making threads about women, go on tinder or something.
>>532520984The point of a practice GF is that shes at the bottom of the totem pole and is more forgiving by necessity.If she stacymaxxes out of anger at having been dumped, then all thats happened is the world has 2 more better looking and better adjusted humans in it.I didnt have a hard virgin requirement, just not so run through like a gooner that you cant pairbond it all is the thing to avoid
>>532521063No, you aren't a chad if you do this at all. But, its a viable path to at least normiemax, which is also fine
>>532519742Confirmed. Tried and tested. It’s not failproof though but it can take you very far in life. To good and bad places.
>>532520948dont worry the practice gf will give you a reason to break up with her in a couple months. i'm 4 months into dating an ugly woman with a nice body right now and i can't stand her already. the sex isn't worth it.
>>532521168Yes ofc. Thats why when you break up with her, you should do it as kindly as possible. 1, because its just the right thing to do, but 2 to avoid her resentmentmaxxing and ruining your life
>>532521133>normiemaxAre you retarded? No it’s not normiemaxing. It’s sex and social life maxing, possibly also has financial benefits. But you wont become more normal because of it except that you may lose some weight and take quieter shits so as not to alert her or somebody as to your true nature.
>>532519742I hitch hiked all the way down to the masada junction, the guy who picked me up is a reservist on his way to Eilat
>>532521209Stay strong brother. The struggle is real, but it gets better.New GF on the horizon
>>532519742You shouldn’t have sex with anyone unless you would keep your child if they get pregnant.
>>532519742What about practice BFs? Is it okay for a woman to improve herself in this manner as well?
>>532521133I don’t think you understand, retard. if you can attain sex/gf then there isn’t anything wrong with you. You aren’t an “autist” or ugly/below average. The dumb foids go after men above their league. You are simply participating in the normal system.
>>532521238>its not normiemaxxing>its sex and social life maxingWtf do you think having sex and a social life is?Also, if your practice GF helps you take quieter, more appropriate shits or brush your teeth more, take the win
>>532521226>Thats why when you break up with her, you should do it as kindly as possibleNEVER ever break up with a woman retard. Another beginner’s mistake you’re making. The way you break up is to let her break up. The way you do that is you figure out her boundaries at the beginning then pretend to unintentionally cross them. Like shoot a wild animal on a hunt or cross dress one day when she comes home. Then tell her that your mental illness has returned. Get some antidepressant to prove it don’t take it though. She and her circle will feel sorry for you rather than hating your guts. If that is not enough to separate fake an episode in your sleep where you cry. When she wakes you up tell her some horrible traumatic shit you supposedly went through and say you need your own space and you’re sorry but you feel you maybe losing control.
>>532521310If shes attractive then its safe to assume shes already had them. This to me is also fine, but same with men, up to a point.If a guy had 50 practice GFs then I would never recommend him to any woman
>>532519742I'm walking off from the bus stop now
>>532521310no: because of the master key/shitty lock duality, you retarded cunt
>>532521311>if you can attain sex/gf then there isn’t anything wrong with you.Now there isnt. You use a practice GF to get to that stage. Some people here envy normies anon. They know they fucked up in their youth and stayed indoors for too long.Thats the whole point.Hell, if sexual anxiety is your only problem, then you'd work it out with a hooker and then become a normie. Well done if thats all that needs fixing
>>532521424Wait. Your bussymaxxing in the IDF?
>>532521482You absolutely don’t want to become a normie. OP is a retard. Much false advice and everything from a position of fake haughtiness. A real idiot. The only thing he got right is that practice gfs exist but it’s more of an Amish thing. Autists can easily get bitches. Looks are irrelevant. Just fake a rich background. Don’t look yugoslavic. And you’re good to go.
>>532521370Yes, I agree. I didnt go into the social engineering aspect of splitting. I should have said "when youre ready, give her a reason to ditch you that isnt criminal or socially irredeemable".I said break up just in general
>>532521133>normiemaxWhoever puts an already semi retarded word and adds -max to it should not be taken seriously.
>>532521564>Autists can easily get bitches. Looks are irrelevant.The 2 dumbest sentences ever put together.Also, you absolutely want "the ability" to present as a normie. Thats just useful. In order to get there, you need to practice.Practice GFs are part of an easy mode normie immersion program.
>>532521499I'm going to camp and take shrooms in the desert
>>532521649Oh how original. The contradictionmaxxer has entered the chat
>>532521578I have seen the fattest most ugly cunts fuck 10/10 18yo sluts from Tinder by faking a rich lifestyle for a couple weeks. And yes it really is that easy. If you want to fuck 10/10 gold diggers that is the way. Become friends with car dealers if possible. Invest 500 bucks in some stylish outfits and watch some mannerism videos on Youtube. If she asks why no Rolex say watches are investment tools nothing else. You’ll be living the PH lifestyle for a week per year thank me later.
>>532521675Nice. Go get some updated comandments for us Moses
>>532521674OP confirmed retarded and fake. God you must be ugly as shit. You probably look like Charlie Kirk after the autopsy and falling off the petri dish.
>>5325197421 Corinthians 6:15-20 KJVKnow ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid.What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.
>>532521564>Don’t look yugoslavicI sense a deep resentment coming from an Austrian flag that's saying that. Our people leave their states to wash your dicks and asses and you treat us like this? You deserve all the immigrants from Syria that you can get.
>>532521722Anon, im not talking about fucking hookers or golddiggers. Im talking about becoming a better human being by working through your worst unresolved aspects on someone you'd rather not be with anyway.
>>532521786Hello Bosnavich, glad to see you finally returned home! Thank you! Stay there and if you manage to convince more of your kind to go home to your “greatest od all nations” aka shithole I might respect you one day.
>>532521776Anon. Jesus painmaxxed for our sins. He wants us to become better men
>>532519742I’d imagine that women’s hurt at being told that they’re a practice gf is the same as when your wife tells you that she’s had all of her wild dick fun and now chose you to settle down precisely because she’s not attracted to you.They don’t seem to understand how much of an insult that is.
>>532521822You’re talking about the fat ugly cunt you managed to fuck once. Yea I know. I’m just taking it to new levels because this thread isnt owned by you dumb cunt and not everyone here is as unfortunate as you are so kindly shut the fuck up and don’t feel the need to reply to everything. You’re not the main character you downunder outback bimbo kangaroo shagger.
The problem is girls imprint on the first guy they've been with so they are mentally damaged for life if that guy leaves them and will enter a hypergamous state that can never be satisfied.
>>532521675You rats blew up dozens of British soldiers so that you could steal that ugly shithole.
>>5325219372 Timothy 3:16-17 KJVAll scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.
>>532521966Several. All in the past. Also yes, this thread is owned by me, the original nut is mine
>>532522018>The problem is girls imprint on the first guy they've been withKEKKKKK where do you live an Amish community? A woman could have had 20 guys before you if you make her coom you’re the God in her little brain for a couple years at least.
>>532522046You’re the least relevant character in this simulation trust me buddy. How do I know? You’re regurgitating thoughts I seeded on this forum and others decades ago.
>>532522018True, but also, its damage that scales with the number of partners. Slightly used is a compromise you have to be willing to consider if you arent a 10/10, thats fair.Otherwise, you need to wait outside a school lol
>>532520948LOL
>>532519742Think I found were I wanna camp
>>532521879But your government invites them. Is it really their fault. And, please. Keep the diasporaniggers as far away from here as possible. I cannot stomach them either.
>>532522156So... You want credit for the concepts presented while also shitting on the aforementioned concepts?Also, >seeded on this forum and others decades ago.Ick. Go to bed grandpa
>>532522185What you consider a 10/10 male isn’t a 10/10 in a woman’s universe. Maria Shriver forgot Arnie, Ivana Trump forgot Donald. But Charlie’s Girls remember Manson. All of the bitches that lost their clit to Ted Bundy are serving him breakfast in hell while their coombusters are dripping over the floor like slugs making it up a thorny rose. Those are the heights limp dicked clit whiteboys like you will never attain to, but I’m sharing for informational purposes and to broaden your very narrow limited horizons.
>>532519742Why do all of you faggots sound like corpo synergy cucks nowadays? Are you people that fucking easy to influence? No offense but this reads like a shitty advert with no product to peddle. There is no autist to pipeline. Chads are a demoralization scale used to reinforce social norms. They don’t exist. This is a thousand times more desperate than pick up artist shit.
>>532520984Not my problem
>>532519742
>>532522238Dont camp to close to the edge bubbelehStay safe
>>532522327God bless you and thanks for speaking truth to impotence! This faggot OP sounds like a dating coach looking for gullible retards to buy his 200$ online info product or his 3000$ weekend bootcamp.
>>532522358And OP is a confirmed kike using yiddish terminology. What a kangaroo shagging kike faggot imposter.
>>532519742Because the idea of willingly getting a practice GF is unethical and if everyone does that, the relationship landscape will become an even worse wasteland than it already is.>>532520749Basically you defile a poor girl that you never mean to stay with to "practice" for the one that you actually want to keep.
>>532522327>Chads are a demoralization scale used to reinforce social norms.Ah yes, the Jews promote the ideas that Chads exist to lower men's confidence and raise women's standards.Or... its just a funny term people use that doesnt have to be taken seriously on its own that describes something as simple as being desirable?Yes, there's no product to pedal.The thread point, is that more people than not were unaware of the concept of a practice gf, which I found funny. Thats it.15 years ago, I could have made a thread about the term "Chad" and you could respond the same way
>>532522536>Because the idea of willingly getting a practice GF is unethical and if everyone does that,If you don't like that then ban fornication by law.
>>532522426I literally just searched for it lolWhy are you so mad? You shat on the idea, then said it belonged to you and you made it up decades ago
>>532519742Idiotic takeAlmost smart, but completely misses the markFrom 16 to 18 you go on dates with a variety of girls but have no committed relationships, friendships only, no sexThis is to develop your social understanding and recognition of what you needIt's healthy to do this in an environment where you have hard boundaries and a clear understanding that this won't go anywhere until you're both adults Do not under any conditions behave as if you're in a committed relationship when you aren't actually doing itAt 18 you start dating long term with a very clear goal and yet again hard boundaries: you're in it to figure out if you'll marry her. If you won't, then you leave. Still no sex until actually married.
>>532522536>Basically you defile a poor girl that you never mean to stay with to "practice" for the one that you actually want to keep.Sounds harsh when you say it that way. Defile is a strong word. I never said be mean
>>532522602Yeah let's do that
>>532522727It's the right word though
>>532522700>From 16 to 18 you go on dates with a variety of girls but have no committed relationships,Yes. What if you miss that window?Also, why do you treat those as forgiveably disposable relationships, but not at say 21, 23, 25 etc?>At 18 you start dating long term with a very clear goal and yet again hard boundaries:Nobody does this lol. This is some weird boomerism that even the boomers didnt believe in
>>532522759Should I call my penis "The Defiler" then?Kinda awesome
>>532522587This is such a cop out response. Brother, you’re here pitching the age old concept of the starter gf as if it were the cure for cancer. Dating is a social process. You know what women find desirable? Personality. Emotional security. A sense of humor. Hobbies that aren’t sitting in front of a screen for most of your spare time. Advertising really fucked you guys into subservience.
>>532522727>>532522740>>532522759The easiest fix is to just revert feminism, ban social media like tik tok and instagram, and maintain male/female segregation in schools. It might sound too talibanesque, but young women and men should not mix together in schools. It makes the slut/manly behavior factor in women act up way less.
>>532519929Well put
>>532522927>You know what women find desirable? Personality. Emotional security. A sense of humor. Hobbies that aren’t sitting in front of a screen for most of your spare time. I agree. You know what those things often require?...Practice
The point of the practice GF concept is less about sex than it is decoding womens relationship communication, and how to dress/act/charm on a date out in public. >...im FINE...>thats a relief, thought you were mad!
>>532522927>Dating is a social process.Dating only became a widespread thing with boomers. You know, the generation with a 80% divorce rate. Even in the early 50s "dating" people was seen as a bohemian escapade that only degenerate beatniks engaged with.
>>532522860>What if you miss that windowThen you missed it. You're a grown up now, you're dealing with grown up situations. >Forgivably disposableThey are not disposable, because need to actually have something for it to be disposable. Those are the years that you're socializing and establishing familiarity and connections with your peers, not creating a romantic connection. Anything that does happen can and should be put on hold until you are both a bit more grown up.>Nobody does this>even the boomers didn't believe in...so?
>>532521268The modern world seems to treat sex as a handshake
>>532519742>bought the couples burial plot for me and the practice wife
>>532519742What to do when practice gf starts talking about having babies? She’s 41 with a son. I fuck her raw and creampie her. There’s no chance she still has any eggs left, right?
>>532522939You don't need to sell it to me, I already agree
>>532523255Exactly. Like I said, if sexual anxiety was someone's only problem, then working that out with a hooker is normal.You cant work out that other shit without actually doing it. Unless you're in Japan, there probably is a rent-a-gf service that helps you reacclimate to or establish social/emotional intelligence and habits that will do you well in the long run
>>532522358This is my set up gonna eat some shrooms now
>>532519742>>532519929It's wrong to use people as means to an end rather than an end in themselves. You have no right to complain when some woman or your employer or your landlord treats you like cattle and casts you out without any regard for your wellbeing because that's the society you chose to create.
>>532520749It doesnt work, normies and chads are soabotaging relations for the rest of us
Op is a ugly faggot loser you lose all right to be treated fairly if you treat your significant other like that, fortunately Op is also indian and a true incel and his hypothetical situation iof being a heartbreaker is his cope of never having experiencedhuman intimacy.
>>532523432>normalShouldn't be
>>532520948Empathy is a white emotion Op is a curry muncher is is trying to up his e-izzat with his attempt at sharing a cool guy juggad style hack.
>>532523298>Those are the years that you're socializing and establishing familiarity and connections with your peers, not creating a romantic connection. >not creating a romantic connectionSays who? Again with this boomerism of "x is how you're meant to do y at z age".Its not how your grandpa did it. Its also not how most women do it. You think 18yr old boys or girls dont or shouldnt engage with eachother romantically if they can?Thats retarded.
>>532522536The idea of having men in their 20s being khv is unethical as well. I simply am treating women as I was treated once I lost weight in my mid 20s. It was either me doing this or becoming a wizard. I feel zero sympathy towards the women that were my practice gf. I feel zero sympathy towards my current gf as I have zero intention of marrying her. She is just a warm hole that works a part time job to help keep my rent payment cheaper and then cleans the place and cooks with me. Once I find a woman I think is worth marrying then I will dump her. Again, women created this environment by divorcing men after cheating on them. I have seen this happen dozens of times to men I know irl. Women are not faultless in this. They made their bed and now they lay in it.
>>532523006Having a personality requires practice? You don’t need to be a sociopath to make a woman laugh. Be the clown. Women can also tell when you’re judging them, so maybe be genuine. Chubby girls are better fucks than most perceived 10’s anyway. With a ten you have to deal with either soul crushing insecurity or inflated sense of self, and boy howdy does that shit know no middle ground. I’d rather pork a cute 250 lb cutie who can a suck dick than than a 130 lb Stacy who will make you do all the work.
>>532523367Worse. Murphy's law comes in and you you get triplets, all autistic. Not the kind you might be. The screaming stool eating kind.Thats when you make a reason for her to want to ditch you that doesnt get your name spread around
>>532519742I did not bring a scale I hope this is enough mushrooms
>>532523456Its too sunny. Dont waste them, do them at night with a campfire
>>532523628It is fine that you think like this as long as you concede that you are evil and you just dont care.
>>532523620>Its not how your grandpa did it. Its also not how most women do itWhy the fuck should I care how most people do anything? This is the healthy way to do it.>You think 18yr old boys or girls dont or shouldnt engage with eachother romantically if they can?18? You mean adults? Which I specifically said should be doing that?
>>532523479>You have no right to complain when some woman or your employer or your landlord treats you like cattle and casts you out without any regard for your wellbeingI didnt complain when they did. I never presumed that they wouldn't, so I was never extremely disappointed.Dont hate the gamer hate the game
>>532523628Kill yourself now
>>532519742It's really mean. I can't bring myself to do it, even though I'd benefit a lot from itI suppose i'm just a cuck beta boy bitch or whatever but I don't have it in me to be that dishonest. If a woman wasted my time like that, especially years of my life when I could had been finding my wife, I'd be dangerously angry. So doing that to someone else I just find too repulsive
>>532523587I agree. But state funded incel therapists if someone needs it could save the species
>>532523628You sound gay and in denial.
>>532523743I have nothing to make a fire with, and I have more their were five grams in the bag and I just ate half of them when they kick in I can go walk around and admire geophliphs
>>532523794Oh yeah my bad, post 17 year old is when the magical fairy bestows responsibility on us, I forgot
>>532523661>Having a personality requires practice?Yes.See every profession that relies on personal communication skills: lawers, trainers, sales managers are all build on top of enormous practice time.
Problem is when you've had a few practice gfs and are approaching 40 when all the best mates were taken in their 20s
>>532523628I agree with some of the start, but not the cruelty anon. I dont blame all women. Why blame something that never truly has full agency anyway? I wasn't born a woman, an abo or a retard, so me not having agency was never a choice
>>532523841>don't have it in me to be that dishonest>cuck beta boy bitchThe word you're looking for is MAN>>532523844>State fundedBad idea
>>532519742You think mabey I should just eat all five grams now?, I ate a little more than half the bag, I'm afraid to underdose it my first time with mushrooms
>>532523661>Having a personality requires practice? Developing one does lol. How tf is this news to you?You think whatever you're born with is what you die with?
>>532523923your sex drive naturally tapers in your 40s so maybe you see prostitutes a few times a year. it's not really a big deal to treat women like subhuman whores for the duration of your life.
>>532523722Looks like 5 grams. Also, that pic looks like AI you might have goofed
>>532524125It's not ai it's from my phone camera and that's not five ga in my hand that is about half the bag I ate all that plus one stem, and washed it down with orange juice should I take more
>>532523908Don't be dishonestThe bar is artificial, I'm aware of thatBut it's artificial for a fucking reasonThe fact that it is a hard limit creates these sectioned off landmark points in your life that give structure, purpose, and goals to actions you take for your development
>>532523841I would never suggest years mate.Think of it more like being able to see the future, and knowing it doesnt work out.Do you dump her immediately?Probably not. Is it time wasted? To you, no. To her, depends.Hell, if you into it with that mindset, you might accidentally wind up upgrading her because she improved you and herself and you have synergy
>>532524244>these sectioned off landmark points in your life that give structure, purpose, and goals to actions you take for your developmentThis is like 3/4 of the reason for feelings of arrested development today. People feel like failures because they're inoculated in the culture implicitly, or in your case outright explicitly told that they are failures if they havent achieved x by y, and so they either get depressed or give up when they cant meet those artificial arbitrary milestones
>>532524244That dude is just an edgy dickhead with an "I know everything and am never wrong about anything" attitude. I applaud your effort but it will not yield any result other than him doubling down on how cool he thinks he is.
>>532524271Maybe a few weeks or a couple of months wouldn't be cruel. I suppose. And as you say, you never know. You might be surprised
>>532524429Achieved what exactly? Go on, tell me what my position does to make people feel like they have a list of things that they have to do by a certain age
>>532524610Yes. Setup for a great manga kek"Im with Chubbychan as my practice GF, but it turns out she's amazing and I feel guilty"
>>532524518Yes I'm awareBut talking it out is for my own benefit too, it helps me clarify and examine my beliefsAnd others reading might find they agree with me
>>532524271Fake Aussie!Mate should be first in ya sentence not at the end.
>>532519742>ChladderLOL!
>>532524700>Chubbychan
>>532524698You literally said that by x age you should be doing y. Im saying thats rubbish to whatever you apply it yo.You have normie blindness by not accepting that many didnt go through the preliminary stage you mentioned (men and women), and there is no comfortable or painless way out of it. One of those pains "could" be moral, by doing things cynically/methodically instead of emotionally/sexually like a normal person.
>>532524830Im too diesel deprived atm to be firing on all cylinders. I spent $400 at IGA yesterday. Im over it.
>>532523817Seething foidYour kind did this, but you're too arrogant and stupid to recognize, or too much of a cunt to acknowledge this.
>>532523781If reacting to the situation I exist in is evil then maybe I am. Or maybe the world's idea of good and evil is inverted.>>532524018I had no agency in this either. I am simply playing the hand I was dealt rather well if I must say. You dont get ahead in life by being kind. Kindness only exist to be given to family and ones you love.
>>532524244>Don't be dishonest Sure, women can start firstI'll wait.
>>532519742So in other words lie to a woman and lead her on then ditch her? Sounds kind of horrible to me. Go pay for a whore to be your GF if you want "practice"
>>532525258Its not about sex. Its about everything before the sex scene in the movie they leave out
>>532525153>Or maybe the world's idea of good and evil is inverted.Not really. It is a very simple equation: If everyone acted like that, would the world be a better place?If life has been hell to you its understandable to want to lash out at society. But you should recognize that two wrongs dont make a right and that doing so makes you evil.
>>532524972What do you mean "normie blindness"That I'm blind to normies? And I don't have to accept that many didn't go through the preparatory stage I propose, I have already accepted it. They are adults, that stage is not for them. Their job is to keep gaining friends and acquaintances if necessary, and when looking for a romantic relationship to do it in a responsible manner that is conductive to the long term health and happiness of both parties by establishing clearly that the goal from the outset is to determine if marriage is on the table, and if it is, pursue it, and if it isn't, split up immediately.Literally just be a grown up
>>532525096You have no idea who I am
>>532525168In this conversation you fucktard
>>532519929I married mine and now she wont put out :(
>>532525501No, that you're potentially a normie blind to the emotional blocks many people have that means that everything else you're talking about is a no show.Its like someone not realising that person x has aphantasia and "imagine x" is just a set of words to them.Because of the day and age they were born into, whatever stage you went through that you see as normal are "unknown" to them.Just words.The end point is often them realising "that was easy, I was enough, the problem was all in my imagination" etc. Telling them that it is doesnt fix it. They have to test themselves, ideally in a controlled environment where they feel more comfortable. The tension romantically for many is the feeling of "lacking x", with x being a mystery set of inadequacies that might be 100% psychological instead of technical like "he's just too short, ugly etc"
>>532519929No it's a trick.>>532525880See?
>>532525880If you can, get into boats and convince her to come.Also practice crying on camera
>>532522127>for a couple years at least.Which only proves my point. Good job.
>>532525948What do people's emotional blocks have to do with this? I think you've started way too far ahead here, you need to establish why you're even talking about this so I have the context for its significance
>>532523479I think it's okay as long as you leave the person in a better place than where you found her. I believe this was the idea behind one of the earlier pick up artists who went on the eminence in that domain. Leave her better than you found her. Improve her life in some tangible measure, either by instilling in her stronger discipline, better prospects, etc. What is gross is a man who intentionally seeks to destroy a woman through deceit. If you do that you're more of a worm than you are a man.
>>532519742i married my highschool sweetheart. in hindsight i think i made the best decision i could have possibly made.
>>532523806Im sorry to inform you, you might be part nigger.
>>532526918Well done>>532526977How dare you
>>532521263Aren't you scared of being murdered or kidnapped by a psycho?
>>532526642Yes. I dont promote the idea out of cruelty like others do. I do it because I benefited tremendously without burning any bridges
>>532519742This is woman-tier behaviour
>>532527064I think hes the murder mate
>>532526452>What do people's emotional blocks have to do with this? Potentially everything. Do you think people that are socially/romantically inept past your magical 17 years old cut off point may have these troubles because of emotional issues?If they do, and they can talk/therapy their way out of it, good for them. However, there are no studies ive seen that actually point to therapy being conducive in this area. Most people that end up as 25 year old wizards stay that way.That is not ideal.
>>532527265Most people that end up 25 year old wizards are "I cannot even read basic universal body language" tier autistic and there is absolutely nothing that can be done to salvage them.
>>532527084>being methodical and emotionally detached for the purpose of self improvement is woman like behaviourIt is the exact opposite.Men's self-help stars with "do this".Women's starts with "you deserve"You're thinking of a gold digger. The gold here is someone inept from day 1 not being inept later. Men are way more forgiving than women, were programmed to have low standards
>>532527265And how does what I'm saying have any problems with that?
I've never had sex
>>532527401Wrong. Thinking they can't is why they cant.Nothing wrong with not wanting to deal with women either if thats why they are how they are. We can't survive 50-60% of 18-25 year olds being virgins mate.
>>532527457>I will USE this person that I have no intention of ever staying with long term and do not respect as a equal as a disposable element for my own social elevation and discard them the moment they cease being usefulThat is core woman behaviour
>>532527536the anticipation is the best part of it, sadly
>>532527543>Wrong. Thinking they can't is why they cant.I have seen an attractive "let me tell you about trains" autist going to sleep at the end of a party have a woman flirtily offer to join him, and he said in complete oblivious seriousness "but this bed is a single, I think there are others upstairs". There is no hope for those people
>>532527488>people who would benefit from the practice gf manifesto if it existed would be people in that camp of emotionally unbalanced people I was talking about.If the problem is heigit cant fix that. Only your insecurity about it, which doesnt fix the reality that many women wont give you a chance at all."If" your problem is psychological, then lowering the emotional stakes by solo-levelling with a practice gf "could" be a path out of being a doomercell
>>532521268Based
Because you are not getting a practice gf she is riding the cock carouselLow value women will still rather get pumped and dumped by Chad than settle with a looksmatchAlso this thread is pointless because y'all don't get laid anyway lmao
>>532527457You're doing a shit job at selling your idea mateMaybe it's just the bad framingBut you come off as suggesting that we should be taking actions that are blatantly harmful to others for the sake of this self improvementLike... no, I am not going to grind some poor woman's heart into the dirt to use it as a stepping stone towards being good at relationships. Not that you'd even be capable of inproving when you have that mindset going in, you cannot learn to love by treating someone without love
>>532522727>A poor girlGet a load of this simp. Maybe one day you'll understand the awfulness that is the female brain
>>532527766Your porn addled mind could not fathom how little sex people are having in real life
>>532521268That’s good advice. Plus every grill you fuck comes with risk of stds. Be selective
>>532527554>I will do what needs to be done even if I feel guilty in order to get to a point where I end up far better off than where I started mentallyIt would be womanly if it was about getting money or material wealth. Women dont go out of their way to evolve mentally ever, at least not in any meaningful way. Eat pray queef is where it starts and stops.>>532527630Sure. Hes fucked then. Doesnt mean the person that never went to the party is.
>>532521268Who says you need to have sex with a practice gf?
>>532520938Virgin girls are naive but also more likely to listen to the opinions of other girls and you can guarantee the practice gf will trash you and make sure the virgin years about it unless your social circles are very wide.Chad isn't usually looking for a virgin gf btw but one with a rich dad where he'll have a guaranteed easy job for life.
>>532528085Thats why teabag like apps and social circles need to be destroyed from within. Not that big a challenge.
>>532524176It all depends. Some shrooms are more potent than others. for some 2g is a good trip and for others it takes 4 to 5 g.
>>532527706I think you've lost the plot here mate
>>532520984You're arguing with retarded people. These same people will tell you women are mentally deficient and need to be led by men, yet hold grudges against women for being misled by bad men. They will tell you they want a heckin virgin for based pair bonding, but would fuck any girl that touched them. They would knowingly and happily ruin the value of women in the sexual marketplace, but also insist on female purity. Ultimately they want a virgin for "pair bonding" because they are scared of a woman who will see them for the freak they are. Just look at OP. He's talking about training away his "idiosyncrasies" on women, so he can get a low body count woman to not realise how much of an autistic retard he is, and how effeminate and weak he is. All these faggots are crypto pedos and I've argued with them enough to see it.Now they will either imply I'm a woman, or insist that im implying things im not, namely that im somehow suggesting they marry blown out landwhales with tyrone's kids, which im certainly not.
>>532519742One small problem: it is within man's nature to settle, so therefore the practice GF becomes permanent.Not that there's anything wrong with that...
>>532528252No, I've answered you thoroughly at least 3 times.
>>532528319You've definitely done your best to do what you think was answering the question, I will give you thatBut I'm not sure you even remember correctly what the question was based on
>>532521268This.The retarded op has never heard of baby trapping.>>532521822>>532519929It's absolutely retarded to fuck someone you wouldn't want to be with because sex makes babies. Even if you don't knock her up you run the risk of her claiming you did and running straight to the new gf about it.Also, if you get involved with one who is mentally off you will learn the term>hell has no fury like a woman's wratht. Gen Xer who has seen it all >>532519975The road to hell is paved with men who produced a child with a woman they couldn't stand.
>>532528290>yet hold grudges against womenWhy does any of this imply I have a grudge?It worked for me, and nobody died.Thats it. >They would knowingly and happily ruin the value of women in the sexual marketplaceAnd yet here you are treating them like a commodity. Ick!>Ultimately they want a virgin for "pair bonding" because they are scared of a woman who will see them for the freak they areVirgin is ideal in both directions anon. Its not likely, and go back through what ive said, i have literally have not set that as ideal for other reasons>He's talking about training away his "idiosyncrasies" on women, so he can get a low body count womanI personally did it, and I also explicitly said that I didnt need or care about virginity at all. That wasn't my issue.>All these faggots are crypto pedos and I've argued with them enough to see it.SHES 23 YOU SICK FUCK>Now they will either imply I'm a woman, or insist that im implying things im not, they'll cope by implying im implying the things implying, but thats not the case so I win premptivley
>>532528290retard
Go ahead. Tell me again what the question I didnt answer is.Can you do it without going "well, if you cant figure it out then xyz I'm right and you're wrong"
>>532522238>no living thing in sight God really did curse that land, huh.
>>532528646>It's absolutely retarded to fuck someone you wouldn't want to be with because sex makes babies.This anon clearly fucks.
>>532520948A true fren
>>532528667Its like the other anon said. Just be a grown up. Work on yourself instead of advocating people use women to fix their own failures. That kind of behaviour is boarding sociopathic and shows a clear line of perhaps, showing a grudge against some women?>>532528703Cope and seethe pussy.
i am old as fuck, 45 now. i was out of the game for a long time because the juice was never worth the squeeze. i find myself gravitating towards single mothers now because women in their late 30s that aren't mothers are completely insane. all of my gfs are practice because they're all nuts. dont end up like me
>>532523367My mother was almost 46 when she had my brother.
>>532519929>*gets pussy whipped by the first bitch that shows interest*
>>532523628You'll end up like that anyway because you are burning relationship karma fucking over one of the decent ones.
>>532528908>Just be confident>Dont practice doing things to get confident at doing things if those things are peopleGoof lord how dullWhy would I have a grudge against women for a deficiency I had that women did not cause at all? Do you imagine that one sneers at a practice GF in the rear view mirror as they leave?I didnt.>That kind of behaviour is boarding sociopathicThe culture we exist in and what it promotes is sociopathic
>>532523841Based. Ignore the penal colony descendant, they were sent off for a reason. You'll find love, anon, just got to be out there.
>>532529197Why? If shes not a keeper, she's a practice GF, nothing more
>>532524034Ffs, no. Mushrooms can make you feel like you want to puke for an hour. Baby steps, anon.
>>532519742If you have 0 experience start with a Breeding cow, they have very low self esteem and will do anything to keep you, so you can have your way with her, also girls that are obsessive compulsive that will stalk you, THEY WILL DO AS YOU COMMAND!These hos need to be trained and told what to do, and that is get onyour knees show me bob and keep me drained! 8====D
>>532529422>they were sent off for a reasonYes. To become the hottest studs on the planet
>>532520948Yup, women are the dumbest most irritating creatures on the planet. Unwilling to learn, raised incorrectly their entire lives, no interests or hobbies that indicate curiosity, they don't even read anything but smutt. They have completely fake jobs in a fake society and are basically adult children. This entire retard civilization can crumble into dust for pretending like feefee playtime "sit under florescent lighting for 8 hours a day until you die" is normal. Women failed, society failed, western civilization failed. Which means everyone else fails too because they copied us. Either the entire system collapses or it marches into oblivion, which is fine with me because shouting "I told you so" as it plows through another preschool of white children takes the pain away >but just give your kid away to a death cultnah Imagine raising a daughter and not telling her the entire world is a bubble wrap planet for her retarded happiness and for some reason women are super unhappy. I'm not going to lure them in like some animal and catch them under a box just so I can make more of them LOL
>>532529657>I'm not going to lure them in like some animal and catch them under a box just so I can make more of them LOLBut they smell nice and make you hot dinner if you snag a good one. Its the best
>>532529487thats just how it typically pans out
>>532529418Thanks for proving my initial point. That all you faggots are completely incapable of being honest about what I'm actually saying.I'm saying leading women on. Having them believe you intend to spend a life with them, while never intending that, is shitty behaviour. Go ahead and be a piece of shit, I don't care. But im not gonna let you advocate others do the same, without pushing back.
>>532523722judging by the stem thickness and cap formation and colour, those are penis envy genetics, that dose is probably too high for you, you will be crawling in the sand for a few hours
>>532520948The world isn't kind to sensitive young men
>>532530403>Having them believe you intend to spend a life with them, while never intending that, is shitty behaviourYou might not intend it, and find out that by going into a relationship with that mentality that it actually pans out better than you'd expect. No rules against liking your practice GF so much she becomes your practice wife.>But im not gonna let youPush back all you want you sook, youre pissing in the wind.Most marriages that are 100% intentional end in divorce. Most relationships that are intentional dont work anyway. Nothing we do is going to change that. Accepting that from the get go and doing it anyway with the expectation that it wont work in order to improve the odds that it might next time with a do-over is a much better outcome.
>>532519742>practice girlfriendsKek are practice boyfriends a thing to?
>>532531132Nobody is owed anything. Doesnt mean you have to be cruel, but being "le sensitive man" is something to compartmentalise or squash.Women have more than enough pussies between themselves, men dont need to increase that number.
>>532531387You are a pharisee of pussy
>>532531284They always have been. They're fine too theoretically. The only problem with practice BFs is women dont tend to improve in the sense that they end up treating men better "unless" they've been ran through and abused.So maybe they tend to end up as single mom practice GFs.The equivalent here would be a woman so autistic she needs some loser men to practice with in order to pick up someone that isnt a loser.This is possible, but unlikely. Men put up with way more, women are pickier by design. Is how it is
>>532531270No, what you are describing is normal human relationships. What you initially described is specifically using women to iron out your autism. You're shifting the goalposts.
>>532519742Are you a woman?Just be honest to yourself on what you want instead of generating so much bullshit to justify yourself.
>>532531657>using women to iron out your autism. Yes. Or accepting that you might have to burn through a few women to iron out that autism, and thats ok. The goal posts were pretty wide, and I never pushed doing it with cruelty in mind. Your point is like saying volunteering because you want to learn how to socialize is bad because its selfish because you should just volunteer because thats what a good person does.
>>532530403You're a good man anon. I agree with you. "One within the whole can't change anything, but if that one gathers and becomes many, the world changes. Change starts with me, but it doesn't end with me."
>>532523875the proper word is aromantic heterosexual like how "aroaces" exist.just because a man is uninterested romantically in women, doesn't mean he can't pursue a relationship with one for pragmatic purposes.
>>532531270Also I've had a few beers so I'm gonna say some gay shit. Real love is intrinsically tied to vulnerability. Not gay im gonna be a bitch and be "emotionally vulnerable", vulnerability in the sense that being in love with someone, is admitting that person can ruin your life. By living your life with the intention of never allowing that vulnerability, you're just putting them at arms length. Because you're too scared of them having power over you. You're building this framework probably because you're afraid of being hurt. And i get that man. It's rough out there.
>>532531899What is the use of a practice GFs? If you want sex go to a brothel. Spare your seed, time and love for the mother of your children.
>>532531739>ZATS NOT HOWS WE DOOZE IT IN GERMANINNYWE HELP OUR ZISTERS GET YOOTHANIZED AFTER ZE MUSLIMS HAVE ZE RAPE EMERGENCY
>>532532158It is not gay. It is frankly the truth. Many men will tell you that you need to go out in the world and conquer women and gloat about your conquests. But that is not how a healthy family will be born. Besides the problems that have arisen are in no small part due to women having rights. Erode women's rights and all will be good. If anything at least their right to vote should be done away with.
>>532532182I dont promote the practice GF lifestyle at if sexual insecurity is someone's problem. Yes, 100% go to a hooker if thats a problem on your check-list, they deal with that all the time.Most inceldom has nothing to do with not being able to pay for sex. The mentality that leaves someone khv is almost never as simple as that
>>532532401>>532532158Alright, it'd be a damn shame if you two didnt kiss right now
>>532523479I'm pretty sure we knew we weren't getting married when the relationship started but it was still fun
>>532521268I have sex specifically with women who do not share a legal jurisdiction with me. I WANT them to get pregnant, because it's my legacy and the state is going to pay for it anyway. It's only fair and the only new social contract I will accept.
>>532519742Take it from an autistic faggot, you don't have the personalty to maintain a relationship. You are likely a closeted faggot, or a jewish / jamboy glownigger
>>532532099I sex with Asian prostitutes, and relationships with lego bricks enthusiasts
>>532532401>>532532023I like that quote a lot.I think there's a lot of blame to be levied at a lot of men and a lot of women for how we ended up here in the past century, but it doesn't help anything. Our generation has been handed an absolute mess and all we can do is try to fix it, rather than squabble and make it worse. I agree about the rights, but im not sure its a fix all. The culture has shifted so far it's hard to undo. >>532532544I just wanna kiss you bro, it's why im trying to get you away from all these practice GFs so bad.
>>532532833Yeah you're gay
>>532532697Why would I take anything from a self admitted failure? I won, and I realised that the term practice GF was something that had either fallen out of the vernacular, or wasn't there to begin with in a major way. That's surprising given the manosphere stuff thats been percolating for 2 decades. Thats it
>>532532676It is people like you that single mothers are everywhere and her children will be jewed.
>>532532952Because i'm you from the future when you give up the cope. Gay boy. With your emotionally vulnerable ass
>>532532933It is only yoke. Let me shitpost in peace before bed.
>>532523841Again it's like you all are imagining every date as if it's marriage potential Holy shit.Watch some movies and TV from 15+ years ago. Dating a stranger and having it go great, terribly, or even hitting it off and having a fling that fizzles out is NORMALIf u hung out with a chick for 2 months but never made it official did u waste yours and her time? I bet you both got dating experience and maybe even some sex
>>532533066>Take it from an autistic faggotwait... are you... hoe_math? THE hoe_math! omg I'm so starstruck!share your wisdom with the masses!https://files.catbox.moe/j6grn5.mp4
>>532532963Who said I wouldn't raise the kid? I'm just not paying for it is all. The state isn't going to teach my kid their gay values, they're just going to foot the bill, as is fair
32 and i never even talked to a girl. the very concept is fantastical to me. i can clearly imagine blowing my brains out than even talking to one. years of anime female ideal has also put them to what i assume unreachable pedestal.
>>532532952Listen, anon, what you need isn't a practice GF. What you need is an honest hard-working Job where you learn to socialize with normies. Make normie friends, if you need help in a relationship>>532532952 read a book or ask your normie friends.Also on the point of a much preferred Virgin GF. If you are her first and she is your first, then you can just figure it out together. It honestly isn't hard.
>>532533233>Dating a stranger and having it go great, terribly, or even hitting it off and having a fling that fizzles out is NORMALYeah, no idea why they're so serious about it. Also, its not like you can't have fun, have it fizzle and just... be fine with that
>>532533280No. I'm just telling you that you don't need to fear your daddy as a grown man. You're naturally submissive though, i understand
>>532533360I dont need anything lol. I have what I want..I saw someone say practice GF today and it surprised me to realise the term isnt used more often. Thats it.It worked for me, I dont hate women, and dont have the problems I used to have.I didnt have to be cruel to achieve that.
>>532533533/thread
This is where your obsession with troons come from
>>532533360>Also on the point of a much preferred Virgin GF2 points. The biological/psychological idea is both partners are their first. This isn't likely in today's age, and.. thats fine. Deal with it. Shouldnt settle for a blown out whorebag, and you dont need someone perfect, it doesnt exist. Thats a wide middle ground, but can you make a khv get to that point by watching fucking Andrew Tate videos or reading a book? No. Not if they've been alone for ages and are shut off emotionally.Focus on the h in khv.I was uncomfortable with my practice GF when she held my hand unprompted going to the cinema. I was that bad. It was gross to me, because I was treating the whole thing with way more seriousness than I needed to
>>532519929>thinking using and abusing other people is the first and most obvious course of action>thinking working on and strengthening your "mask" is a good ideayou are mentally ill/hate yourself and others.i hope you find a way to actually like yourself and be comfortable with it, holy shit
>>532533846?Transwomen are men, and I support men?Troons have not been mentioned once here bar you
>>532534048Based
>>532534048>i hope you find a way to actually like yourself and be comfortable with it, holy shitThats very kind of you, cheers anon.I do like me, yes.
>>532519742Yeah I had a practice girlfriend back in highschool. Ugly and fat but she at least broke the seal to let me know that I was at least 1% desirable. Funny enough after I dated her I had a bunch of people come on to me to try and steal me away when before they gave no attention. It's been almost 20 years now and I'm married but every girlfriend along the way was practice in one way or another.
>>532519975Real and true
>>532520948You don't demean them retard. It's a relationship. While you're in it you act as a good boyfriend. But you're also building your confidence and ability so when it's time to move on, you tell her you're ready to end things and try your luck moving up the ladder.
>>532534225This thread is more revealing than I thought it would be.Somehow, doing the exact same thing as an adult while admittedly stunted/emotionally juvenile is predatory, but nobody that did it ever says their life didnt improve tremendously as a result of it.
>>532533132A few more drinks and you won't be joking>>532534077And you find men easier to talk to, so naturally you are drawn to them. And i'm not just talking about you, but the culture on this board. If you were normal then you wouldn't have a problem talking to women>It kinda looks like a girl so it's not as gay as fucking a ripped manIs probably your thought process
this is gay glownigger behaviour. goodbye.
>>532534223>I do like me, yesthe way you look at other people tells me otherwise.you are probably in multiple layers of narrative and cope.you should join a martial arts class, pick a sport, doesn't matter which.it'll make you experience kindness and healthy confrontation and resolution with other people, build discipline, understanding of yourself and most importantly, self respect
>>532534503Hey man, its not gay if its his birthday.
>>532534503Women like talking with other women more than men usually. Doesn't make them gay lol.>If you were normal then you wouldn't have a problem talking to women"wouldn't have had" a problem, and I literally presented myself as not normal from the get go. Its past tense. A few practice GFs was all it took to not take it so seriously.This isnt complicated, its just taking the stress off someone by being less of a fag about it and treating it like a warm up "if" it doesnt work, instead of being a reflection of your self worth.
>>532533964Fascinating. I think I agree with the practice GF concept except that it shouldn't be intentionally used as practice. Hear me out. If you want to fix yourself and you believe that you need an emotional relationship you never had then by all means go ahead, but don't seek out women you don't intend to love. Of course in the modern day, there is a whole dating culture so as you peruse you may encounter GFs who were only practice, in a sense.
nice try crystal cafe
>>532534797The only cope inception here is pretending that this doesnt work, or that it requires you to be cruel.It doesn't. It's cruel to yourself to not do what makes you better.>the way you look at other people tells me otherwise.If you dont like you, why the fuck should I?Preach
>>532535041fag>>532535094foid
>>532520948right, but since marriage is illegal, you will never not be a practice bf, until i figure out how to slaughter every divorce judge and pastor
>>532520984>your "virgin" gf is somebody's previous practice gfthe fact that your wife is somebodys previous practice wife was created by no fault divorce, which is the reason that 0% of women are virgins at marriage
>>532535123>but don't seek out women you don't intend to loveSet the bar lower, less disappointment. I dont need to love someone to like them. Again, you could go into things with the mentality I had and everything could work out on the first go.>Of course in the modern day, there is a whole dating culture so as you peruse you may encounter GFs who were only practice, in a sense.Yes. In hindsight. This just treats it as foresight. It's not self-defeating like you would assume intuitively.
>>532534461Yeah if I waited on Stacy back in highschool I'd still be a virgin. Instead I worked my way up to only being slightly autistic but my wife is as retarded as me so it works. Without the practice I'd be hopeless.