>Dmitry Medvedev, the former Russian President who is currently serving as deputy chairman for Russia’s Security Council, has made it clear he prefers an American-led Nato to a new European military alliance based on EU membership.>“It [the EU] could quite quickly turn into a fully-fledged military alliance that is extremely hostile to Russia, in some respects worse than NATO. It will be a repulsive rabble of rabid European parasites,” Medvedev wrote adding “it is time to abandon a tolerant attitude towards our neighbours joining a military-economic European Union.”
>someone from Russia noticed me!>I feel so relevant!Why are they like this?
>>532520598https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Jewish_Parliament
>>532520598>>532520687>>532520720Guys guys GUYS!Stop. 2 sec please hear me out.Why dont we all work together and fuck up mutts and just chill trade and play based old games and have normal intetnet again.
>>532520598The US for various reasons isn't interested in dirt cheap modern weapons (filthy rich, they have no pressing reason to disrupt MIC/Zog corruption). The US forcing the EU to buy overpriced (manned) bullshit at this point is holding back their military strength.If the EU doesn't economically collapse because of the Iran clusterfuck, NATO falling apart will truly set of the drone revolution.
>>532520872Nooo we can’t have good relations and just do /biz/ together and grow. We must hate each other according to the anglos and mericans because if we do just have good relations they would be irrelevant and thats a no no.
>>532520598We payd good money for the gas.God damn bitches call us parasides?Maybe it was good america blew up the pipeline (or whoever it was).
>>532520872>Why dont we all work together and fuck up mutts and just chill trade and play based old games and have normal intetnet again.Baltics are integrated into EU economy and Putin wouldn't have stopped at the Dnepr.Putin wanted to be Peter the Great 2, EU had to help stop him in Ukraine. Now everyone is pot committed.
>>532520598>drunk slav manlet says things drunkenlyYea yea.
>>532520872Because Russia can't respect borders. That's the long and short of it. If Russia just got their shit together and decided that other countries sovereignty must never be violated, then there would be no conflicts in Europe. We would easily get along with one another. But as it stands right now, Russia absolutely cannot stop interfering in other people's business, and that means there cannot be good relations.
>>532520598>“it is time to abandon a tolerant attitude towards our neighbourswow so at this point it was Russia being tolerant?Russians are sick in the head
>>532520598Obviously putin and zion don are besties so checks out he prefers us led nato.
>>532520872This is impossible because most euros are mentally (and often physically) castrated and cannot stand anyone who has not gone through the same process. They religiously hate and fear any source of masculinity and will never tolerate its existence. In their opinion everyone is a eunuch like them, which is the only way they do not feel challenged. It’s like suggesting a boxer become friends with a redditor - it’s just not happening. Boxer’s mere existence terrifies the beta male, and he hates him for it. This is also why they are hating the US now – they are acting ballsy and it scares the living shit out of the euro cuck.
>>532520598Even the Rusniggers call you guys parasites. We've been financing your security for decades while you give free healthcare to migrants. Euroniggers are parasites.
>>532520598Nobody gives a shit what Russian thinks.
>>532522286Europe doesn't have a ton of dead kids because of the war. If Putin had settled for Donbas and Crimea after his roadside picnic on the way to Kiev, eventually things would have normalised.Because of all the dead Russian kids Putin is now fully committed to his Peter the Great part deux act. That is the fundamental problem, because that includes the Baltics.
>>532520872Because Russians know what happens when they "chill out" and play ball with the West: misery, colour revolutions, terrorism, etc. They remember the 1980s and 1990s. Russia absolutely needs: 1) to be feared in the world stage; 2) a strong authoritarian leader. They already have enough experience with softie Western-oriented diplomacy and liberal democracy and it was the worst time to ever be a Russian. It is literal living memory.Also the fact that we have a Butthurt Belt in the European Union whose politics boils down to "please please please literally anything but Russia" doesn't help make friends with Russia.
>>532522286>>532521473Hews told you this and it benefits them most. Just saying...maybe ur right maybe not. I, personally, dont trust what they push
>>532522682west is not same as europe weat today is u know who
>>532522286So confident about your masculinity that you gotta sacrifice your own people in the thousands to export it abroad. Go back niggaa
>>532521473The worst part is that there are 100 million Russians when there should be 20 million at most
>>532520598We don't care what Europeans think any more. They've allowed their civilization to be taken over by Jihadist invaders. Until they sort that out, we have zero respect for them. Trying to argue with 90% of Europe is a waste of time. Their people are beyond demoralized. Intergenerational cucking has completely drained them of the will to stand up for anything virtuous, even the basic animal values of self-preservation. They are essentially told they must care for every foreigner, and many of them go along with it. Euros are educated in self-destructive nihilism from birth, and the fruit of this despondency is a complete spiritual collapse of the continent.The reality is, Europe is just becoming a satellite continent for Africa and the Middle East. There is no visible assimilation or even an attempt at it. Europeans are nothing but the dogs of Muslims. They have established themselves as the ruling class in Europe, they live there, but are not subject to European laws or values, while native Europeans exist to serve them and must placate their every whim.A Muslim can mass murder dozens of Europeans. And what is their instinct? Mourn for their dead brothers and sisters? Desire revenge? Make sure it doesn't happen again by getting them out? No. When an attack happens, Europeans don't shed tears for the dead. They shed tears thinking about the backlash against Muslims. They cry about how, "oh, this attack will cause the far right to be more popular!" Meanwhile they reassure themselves that we are all human while Muslims laugh at them for being weak spineless cucks and blatantly take advantage of them, proudly sucking Europe dry.It is like they want to go extinct. They hate themselves more than anything else in the world. A continent of useless, self hating pussies who somehow think they are also superior to the rest of the world because they care about "muh human rights" (lel)
>>532520872because russians want to dominate the continent
>>532520598The slav untermensch FEARS a united EVROPE.
>>532520598sure he did mutt. fuck off.
if nords are not willing to defend ceuta o melilla from moors im not defending them from russians
>>532522286someone post the russian twink that paints his face with the coloro of russian flag
>>532522823Try critise jews publicly in based Russia and tell us how it's going.
>>532522682The transition from communism would have always been a clusterfuck, with or without CIA involvement. Almost all the terrorism was as usual because of Islam, Saudi Arabia didn't need any push to fund that.
>>532522286How to make Kremlin shills shut up with a simple trick :Denunce the Lubavitchs.
>>532522286Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth.
>>532522682Between 2000 and 2014, russia had the biggest economic boom in its history because it played ball with the west. Putin could have just coasted along, made his little brics group and russia would have been just fine, but no, the stupid retard felt like he needed control of its direct neighbours from the old soviet bloc.
>>532520872We cant... Becose EU is literally jewish and theywill never allow that
>>532520598The EU either has to be dependent on the USA for energy, or Russia.The USA literally threatens to take the EU's territory by force, insults its dead soldiers, and plunges Europe into energy poverty to please Israel.There is no independent, based EU option here. It doesn't have access to resources like the other international powers do. If it were leading in technology, it could at least play that hand to gain access to resources from China and the like, but in most areas it trails China and the USA.The EU's only path to relevancy was playing Russia/Eurasia and the USA against each other. By chopping off Russian supplies, it has doomed itself to irrelevancy and bullying from a USA which knows that the EU has nowhere else to turn.Every slap in the face to Russia is equally an increasing reliance on the USA for Europe.
>>532522286you niggers shit in socks
>>532523124But some Russian speaking kids in Ukraine might have been forced to learn Ukrainian in school ... that surely was worth all this bullshit to prevent.
>>532523201>There is no independent, based EU option here.Nuclear. Would have been easier it germany didn't go full retard and close every single one of its nuclear reactor due to retarded green party politics.
>>532523201>The EU either has to be dependent on the USA for energy, or Russia.EU+China+Iran ;)
>>532523210>hasn’t been poopsockin itYou’ll die in modern war so fast
>>532523320it's worse than that. in the interview he's apologizing to his ma, so he's clearly apologizing for something that happened before he was shipped out.poopsockin it is a natural state for russians.
>>532523124Yes, just let the jews pillage your county goy.
>>532520598The problem is that europoors don't have any meaningful military power, even when Trump says 'invest in military' they just kind of fuck around.
>>532520598Dude Europe is broke, your economy is in decline, your governments are already getting ready to cut your entitlements. You don't have the money to suddenly become a military superpower.
>>532523385Instead of looking at bullshits like this you should wonder why Putin didn't mention Epstein. It was free ammos for him but he didn't use it to reinforce the image of based Russia, maybe because he is in the files.There is no West or East, there is a international Satanist kike clique ruling the world.
>>532523453Most of the oligarchs around putin right now are jewish you fucking retard so clearly he doesn't have an issue with that.
>>532520598>Cleptomaniac russians calling the nations they got most of their fortune from by oil/gas sales and post war annexations parasitesBlame your own sins on others, it's tradition after all
>>532523648Hitler was right about Russia. They wouldnt now civilization if it jumped up and bit them
>>532522867>A continent of useless, self hating pussies who somehow think they are also superior to the rest of the world because they care about "muh human rights" (lel)This sentence is the most perfect encapsulation of Europeans that I've ever read. They also love rules and freak the fuck out when nobody but them follows said rules.
>>532523510Germany and England have gotten worse but EU is far from broke since it's a collection of countries, not one big entity. Some do better, some do worse.
>>532523510>You don't have the money to suddenly become a military superpower.We do have the money to put lawnmower engines in glass fibre with some cheap Chinese electronic modules and sensors. That's all that's needed for a conventional Samson option to destroy anything and everything for the first couple 1000 km.Truly modern weaponry doesn't need much capital investment.
>>532520598with how volatile you guys have seen our politics be, you really guys really to have your own standing army and not be realying on us
>>532520598EU army would be just turning butthurt belt into meatshield that protects western europe, with little to no reward. Krauts, frogs, meds etc. They would not gather enough men. Poland, Baltic countries and Finland that have grudge would be ready, and dumb enough to be fooled into being a buffer state.
>>532520687You're not fooling anyone with that flag.Russians can't post on the internet outside Russia anymore, they're only allowed to use the FSB app.
>>532520598After a hundred years, we are back
>>532523735They "care about human rights" only because they think those can stop brutish males from pickng fights around their sacred hugbox in which they pretend violance and masculinity do not exist and can be just banned by another law out of existence. This is all the euro is - a scared eunuch living in his safe space, wishing death upon anyone who reminds him that not the entire world is like that. Now he is perpetually butthurt the world no longer revolves around maintaining this fantasy of his just to keep him comfortable. He is so punchable, its impossible not to hate him.
Giving unelected plutocrats an army is a recipe for disaster, doesnt take a genius to understand that one. I mean just look at how EU runs its thing right now and consider that they do so solely using monetary and political means like economic sanctions and whatnot, now imagine the same scummy fucks with loyal soldiery who will eagerly shoot at civvies to collect their pay.Yeah nha, I dont want to deal with any of that.
>>532520687>Why are they like this?It's a way to measure how good an idea is. For example, Russia made a list of unfriendly countries. Those countries all have plumbing. If a Russian with any power doesn't like it, it's probably a good idea.
>>532524334>wahh pls Europe notice me senpai>can i move over there, things are so great here btw
>>532522286Lol @ mad europoors in the replies, but Ivan is 100% correct here. The sheer and utter seethe of eurocucks is truly something to behold. They can't contain themselves.
>>532524474>Giving unelected plutocrats an army is a recipe for disaster, doesnt take a genius to understand that one. I mean just look at how EUI thought you were going to say "look at USA"
>>532525084...your point being?
>>532523201There is one critical area in which the EU does excel. Not just excel, but literally holds a global monopoly.Microchips.ASML's production-grade EUV lithography tech is the wild card; and it's high time the EU starts using it as such.US wants to fuck us? We starve their chips and crash their AI-fueled economy. Or we threaten to middle-finger the US's export embargos and share more of the tech with the Chinese. Those options are there - have always been there. The EU just has been civil enough towards the US to not consider using them.
>>532525072It's their leader (Medvedev) who seethes at the mere existence of EuropeRussians never stopped being butthurt about Europe for centuriesTheir whole identity is built on "hurr why doesn't Europe accept us"Heck they adopted the Cyrillic script from Bulgaria, Orthodoxy from Greece and built palaces in European style just so they could be considered European and not Mongolian
Medvedev is a fulltime alcoholic these days, he should be ignored.
>>532525284That's what you should do, since ASML is in your country.You could turn it into the Hormuz of microchips and hold the whole world hostage.
>>532523510>Dude Europe is brokeAmusing words to be spoken by someone in a country that has an 800% deficit between treasury income and outstanding national debt and other obligations under contract or law.If the US were a business, it would be insolvent.The only reason it can survive as a country is because it exports its inflation through the petrodollar's status as international reserve currency for global trade.Guess what Iran is doing by forcing countries to purchase oil in Yuan?
>>532523510>europe is brokeNigga wat. Europe has 100's of billions in capital which is why everyone wants in on our market.Surely you meant to say the US is broke.Dumb American.
>>532525072>The sheer and utter seethe of eurocucks is truly something to behold.Why would any European seethe at the fact that Russia acknowledges an EU militarily unhooked from the reins of the US is more dangerous to Russian sovereignty than the status quo? If anything, it means they consider the EU a more competent threat than the US.
>>532525320It's part pf Medvedev's role to be a bit histrionic. A lot of the time he serves to stretch the Overton window a bit. Him seething a bit here or there is business as usual..
>>532525284It's not just microchips, there's a lot more from precision machining to lenses, certain pharmaceuticals and so on. "Europe does not make anything" is so retarded, I believe it's wilful propaganda at this point. If the US stops trade with us, they're essentially committing murder-suicide. From their MIC to their hospitals, they depend on us. Actually more than the reverse, since a lot of what they export is (digital) services.
>>532525680>If anything, it means they consider the EU a more competent threat than the US.This is among the most delusional things ever said.
>>532522286>who has not gone through the same processI mean it takes two to tango, the only reason we're here is that the religious crusade of the last century against all the last blonde beasts left in Europe and their anti-humanitarian instincts was successful in large part thanks to your effort in throwing millions of your bodies against the krauts, and after that, do you feel in charge in Russia? do you feel like the Russian federation is some sort of shining beacon of Slavic Russian domination? I don't even mean this to attack you, rather to see the situation as it is, Putin sounds a lot like out boomers sounded, similar petty values, your empire isn't some nationalistic Slavic supremacist powerhouse, it's an oligarchy that also keeps the Slavic population in check through similar petty means, your birth rates are also abysmal, your women have tons of power, etc....truth is that basically every European race is under a menagerie that is breeding it against any healthy will to power and domination, be it anglomutts or slavs or meds and it would be quite stupid to get into yet another dumbass slaughterhouse against other Euros when you can't even be a Slavic supremacist at home with full patriarchal rights
>>532520598>Extremely hostileEuropean opinions about Russia are either>I fully support Russia because those french and italians are all faggots>I don't give a shit>I'm worried but we buy their gas and sell them cars so it's fine, they can Annex Georgia or some other shithole>Kurwa I pray every day to Jesus and Jan Pawel for their annihilation and if I wasn't too poor and drunk to have nukes I'd turn saint Petersburg into a parking lot. And then I'd steal the BMWs parked on itAs long as we don't let the ground forces have as much sway as the inevitably Germanic Navy and air force the only thing they have to worry about is some Wagner guy getting blown up out of nowhere in Togo or whatever once a year
>>532520872Sounds good. Russia can now stop invading Ukraine.
>>532525769Yes- with the current state of affairs the EU's military power doesn't come close to being as much of a threat as the US. (Though through France, it has nuclear deterrent all the same.)But that's not the topic at hand. Medvedev is speaking in the hypothetical where the EU is fully re-armed and has fully reinvested in its local miltary industrial complex. That's the future he wants to prevent from happening, because it scares him more than the US does.
>>532520872Euros can only unite over hatred of the US. Once they actually have to plan things like military together, they will start infighting just like they do with other EU affairs.
>>532520872No, I will troon out my kids and have ahmed rape me on the daily, Sweden yes!
>>532525713Here is one example, Lithuanian lasers:https://lithuania.lt/news/business-and-innovations-in-lithuania/laser-lithuania-why-lithuania-is-punching-above-its-weight-in-laser-technologies/>You can find them on every continent except Antarctica. We export over 80% of our laser production, and 95 of the world’s 100 highest-ranking universities use our laser technologies. Our markets roughly correspond to centres of high-tech industry and science – the US, China, Germany, Japan, and South Korea are our main export destinations.Or maybe Zeiss, or Kern, if you want to hear about German tech the US couldn't substitute for decades? There is this misconception that the US has the stronger position in a trade war, but it is utterly wrong.
>>532525713There's a lot more but Americans are only impressed by nigger brands like Apple.Here's a quick list I compiled:SpotifyMercedes & BMW carsSwiss watchesASML lithography machinesLinuxC++ARM microprocessorsFrench cheesesOlive oilSoundcloudPorto winesIberico hamPorscheBest beers in the world (Belgian, Czech, German)Ferrari carsLamborghini carsRolls Royce carsLouis Vuitton, Armani, Chanel, Dior and tens othersAudio equipment: Focal, RME Audio, Focusrite - or affordable (Behringer)BASF - largest chemical producer in the worldSaint-Gobain Glass - largest glass manufacturer in the worldNXP Semiconductors - one of the largest chipmakers in the world, co-inventor of NFC that you use with your phone to make paymentsWienerberger AG - the world’s biggest manufacturer of bricksAirbus - the world's biggest manufacturer of airliners and helicoptersCERN - the site of LHC, the world's largest and highest-energy particle colliderSiemens - largest industrial manufacturer in Europe that makes everything from MRI machines to factory assembly linesPython programming language - originally made by a Dutch programmerPHP - backend server language originally made by a Danish programmerWorld Wide Web - that prefix you see on almost every internet page, a system for organising and serving information pages on the internet - originally designed and made by a BritishSAP SE - the world’s largest producer of enterprise resource planning (ERP) softwareThe “Big Four” - Deloitte, KPMG, Ernst & Young and PriceWaterhouseCoopers - were all started in the UK, but are now global corporationsBest food standards in the world - the first 5 countries in the Global Food Security Index are from EuropeAdidas, Puma - sportswear brandsAlstom - second world manufacturer of trainsSome of the best manufacturers of hand guns - Sig Sauer, Glock, Beretta, Heckler & KochIKEA - is a leader among the top 10 furniture manufacturers globally
>>532526273Forgot Zeiss that makes the secret optics for the ASML chip machines that the Chinese do not know how to replicate currently, so their EUV machines are superlarge, compared to the ASML ones, and of lower precision
Hey, why can't we all just get along?
>>532523510You Americans have lost all grasp on reality, haven't you? I mean, you didn't have a great grasp to begin with, but the absolutely deranged insanity you retards have started spouting after Operation Epic Failure is astounding. This is the sort of shit I'd expect from a piss-drenched mental patient on the subway.
>>532520598EU army and federation would be based.
>>532522900>slav untermensch FEARS a united EVROPEThe last "real" EVROPEANS in united EVROPE will be Slavs after all non Slavs will die out or be replaced by Turks. Given how things progress I bet that last European people will be Belorussians after we EU cuks will become Turk/Arab/Nigger mutts and Russians all die in Ukraine before being replaced by Mongols/Pajjets and Changs.
>>532522286okay okay Medvedev we already had the state mandated 5 minutes of hate at the EU goldstein today, save your energy for tomorrow when you have to do it all over again
>>532526812this, but it would only enforce tranny acceptance and give muslims diplomatic immunity unfortunately
>>532525853>you defended yourself against people that wanted to conquer, exterminate you and take your land for temselves>was it worth it?Yes, it was
>>532523999>armyWhere the world is going, military needs no army. At this point the only reason for a western nation to use meat is because Zog demands blood sacrifice. If Europe gets pushed out of Nato I doubt they will continue to hamstring themselves. Even in its dying days Europe is still extremely dangerous.>rewardThey got their reward with economic prosperity already.
>>532527758forget the superficial motive, anglos tell themselves the same thing and sent their men to die with the same narrative, they are also "winners", but are they? are they masculine men at home, who own women and their destinies? hardlyyou "won", is that how you feel at home? like you as Slavs are masters at home?
>>532527758But wouldn't you be much happier as a german? If they succeeded they'd probably still be the old version of themselves and you could live in a economically prosperous, modern society as a free man instead of the donkey riding rape baby slave that you are now?
>>532523510If you pull it off with a fake economy, why couldn't we with a real one? Can't we just sell the US debt? That's already, what, 5+ years of 1 trillion a year injected into European militaries?
>>532528005If you think that winning is defined by some average guy being fully in charge of his country's destiny than there have been no winners in the entirety of history. This isn't how countries operate and its not because of some specific group of elites that are oppressing everyone. This is how power structures work, and while not all of them are exactly the same (of course EU or American citizens have much more direct influence on their governments than people in most other countries do), but at their core they follow the same logic. And the Hitler example is probably the worst hill to die upon in this context - people in Weimar had much more control of their destiny than in Nazi Germany. They actually elected Nazis to power for fucks sake. Hitler, on the other hand, practically enslaved Germans, banned elections, banned political parties, banned free speech and then mobilized the entire nation in order to die fighting a world war he could not win. Was Hans being whipped to the Eastern Front for whatever reason in control of his destiny? Was he in charge somehow? It’s strange that you bring up Nazi Germany here that was the direct opposite of a country with citizens in control.And anyway, my point was never about EU countries being shit and Russia being perfect. Obviously, this isn't the case and you got to be a shill to pretend otherwise. The point I was making was strictly about the bitchy whiny attitudes of most euros that are hard to stand. Its always some female hysteria about someone breaking their head canon rules and impotent bitching about it. There is no deeper meaning here. If you don’t like something don’t hiss about it like a deranged feminist who witnessed manspreading on the train.
>>532529026>If you think that winning is defined by some average guy being fully in charge of his country's destiny than there have been no winners in the entirety of historyway to completely and utterly miss the point, there's no point reading the rest of your babble, you understand apples for bananaswhen a bunch of chechens move next door and you'll have to deal with their tribal culture try crying to Putin about it, then you'll get what I'm saying
>>532529200And that's exactly what I am talking about. You even got the Chechen script going. Its like you are all made in the same estrogen lab or something. Why did I even bother talking to your kind in the first place? Now say something about toilets and anal rape like your bitch made kin always does and leave the thread only to cry in the next one about le merican mutts bullying poor aryanz in europe again.
>>532525284Toothpaste cope for the one company apart from Heineken that anyone knows comes from your country. You know China has been running a manhattan project reverse engineering mission to make their own EUV machines that are beginning to bear fruit right? You won’t have that monopoly for more than another five years.
>>532526273I wish that there was some european brand of smartphones.
>>532523999Would Finland send troops to deter Morocco / Turkey if they started shit down South? The fact of the matter is that Europeans aren't a homogenous group you can just deploy en masse on the other side of the continent.
