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>>532523955Look at your skin if you are actually paloid that means you get no sun. With no sun there is no renewable. God hates paloids
>>532523955Doesnt renew profits like oil
>>532523955Basically oil can keep up with inflation. Renewables can't.
>>532523955They can't be blockaded so that's pretty nice
Anyone who isn't a massive retard knows that renewables and nuclear is the way to go.There was a push against renewables by the right and a push against nuclear by the left. All at the same time and all based on retarded nonsense.Ask yourself this: Who creates this kind of discord regularly in order to avoid the spotlight to fulfill their own agenda?
>>532524556Everyone in my area with solar panels and EVs openly admits they don't work for 6 months of the year at the very least, and they're all leftist idiots.
>>532525596Are you in tasmania?
>>532525668Victoria.
>>532523955We have at most 22 years of easily mineable silver left, and you want even more solar? Crazy, stupid, foolish man who thinks any energy is renewable.Anyways just enjoy this wasteful era, a century from now they'll be wondering why we wasted so much resources on ai porn.
The problem is that renewables (a decent idea) are being used to install communism, limit your range of travel, spending my tax dollars to force the change in behaviour...generally give the government more control over your life. You also can't talk about their weak points without being yelled at by libs.If the switch was more organic it probably wouldn't get as much push back.
>>532523955We don't. Oil is a renewable.
>>532523955Look at your image. Those large swathes of nature, destroyed to be covered and rendered unusable by ugly inefficient black squares.Look at wind turbines, shredding an ungodly amount of birds, poisoning a large ground area with their massive concrete foundation. The offshore fucking with and killing whales.These "green" renewables are even worse than coal or gas.Those fucking lead brained boomers did a great job fucking nuclear.
>>532525596EVs don't work for six months of the year?
>>532524135>the sun is a godclassic pajeet
>>532526512EVs being charged via household solar panels, which is the whole idea of having them in the first place.Also, the solar field in the region near me has contaminated the water table, so wildlife is dropping dead en masse if they're not just poisoned and maimed by the now toxic water.And the wind turbines simply didn't provide anywhere near enough energy when they were working.
>>532524135Am I the only one who could smell this post.
>>532525596>Everyone in my area with solar panels and EVs openly admits they don't work for 6 months of the year this is like niggers in africa claiming water filtration doesn't work after they cannibalized the filters to smoke bongo bongo nigger drugs out of it or whatever. you and the people you associate with are mental retards.
>>532526990>EVs being charged via household solar panels, which is the whole idea of having them in the first place.EVs charged on the grid are still cheaper per kilometre travelled than petrol, solar panels are just an added bonus.>Also, the solar field in the region near me has contaminated the water table, so wildlife is dropping dead en masse if they're not just poisoned and maimed by the now toxic water.Proofs?>And the wind turbines simply didn't provide anywhere near enough energy when they were working.Lol, offshore wind provides a tonne of power
>>532523955How renewable are all the materials that go into making these renewable energy sources? How are these materials extracted and refined? How are they assembled?"Renewable energy" is a snake eating its own tail.
>>532527205You don't seem to have adequate reading comprehension. It was made clear that these solar panelled, abbo loving, life-long labour voting, multiculturalist anti-White EV users are retarded people and that I just happen to live among them. The point was that even they openly admit "green" renewables are bullshit and simply don't work, and even if they make leaps and bounds worth of improvements they're still a worthless waste of space and resources. These people keep backup ICE cars on hand, live in an almost entirely White area, and ask me for lessons with firearms, all the while shilling against such things, because they know they're full of shit without explicitly admitting it.
>>532523955cuz white supremacists can't into renewables
>>532526104solar is dumb, unless you're using concentrators wind tidal and hydro are superior to any fossil fuel
>>532524135>head bobblesSaaaaaaaaaaaar I am nambur vun ubar dryvar saaaaaaaaaaaaaaar>shits on the floor
>>532523955>reliant on chink-made shit>microplastics and forever chemicals>needs to be manufactured, delivered, installed, maintained and eventually replaced (with fossil fuel help)>land clearing and habitat destruction>doesn't work half the time>not economically viable to recycle, so it often ends up in a landfillgrats to the guys who convinced goyim this shit is renewable and saving the planet
>>532523955They reflect light too much and that bothers the birds and makes Donald angry
>>532525596Nigger, my solar kept my bills down during winter and I'm gonna bet that it'll stay down now that I've had a battery installed.
>>532526313Oil is owned by too many brownoid states, it's time to make them irrelevant
>>532523955we could have nuclear energy but nooo we need build dogshit that makes the landscape look as shit as if we mined for coalwe can recycle the waste anyway at this point (its a little complicated but we can do it)
>>532523955Leftists want me to change so that they can feel good, like >"we all worked together and sacrificed the things we like for our collective wellbeing"Well fuck them.You can set fire to coal that's underground.That's where the devs of silent hill got the inspiration for the setting of the game.Maybe light an untapped potash deposit on fire just to spite them for demanding I compromise for them.
>>532527368Wait until you're taxed/km like you should be, free riding commie nigger
>>532527773Glass, aluminum, and copper from solar panels are reusable
>>532523955Because libs and trannies support it.There it is, literally the only reason.
>>532527952Nuclear plants take 20 years to build and then some more years to break even
>>532528097Libs and trannies also support drinking water.Does that make you reject drinking water too?
>>532527990The amount petrol users are taxed via fuel excise is pretty negligible compared to the overall cost of petrol
>>532527952america will never allow you to nuclearize lol
>>532526990>Also, the solar field in the region near me has contaminated the water table, so wildlife is dropping dead en masse if they're not just poisoned and maimed by the now toxic water.Tell me where you live anon, would be very interested to know what part of Australia is experiencing toxic water from a solar farm
>>532527840Good for you, but this is really about securing energy and powering entire countries, not reducing the power bill required to charge your wife's electric dildo.
>>532523955Solar panels are shit, manufacturing them is fuckoff expensive and not renewable, their lifespans are limited and all these fucking solar farms are reflecting sunlight and heating up the atmosphere which helps in fucking up the weather.
>>532528253It's around Wangaratta, but it has affected a massive swath of land between Melbourne and Sydney.
>>532528185>52c/l>NegligibleFuck off, troon
>>532523955because the maintenance costs for large scale solar applications make them highly inefficient. Same problem with wind. Hydro is pure efficiency, but it does destroy the local ecosystem.So basically, because it's fake and gay "environmentalism" in name only that is actually more harmful to the environment than just burning some coal or using some nuclear fuel to heat up a steam turbine. The renewable energy movement is 100 percent a scam. They are manipulating your emotions to make a bunch of money for themselves by convincing you to abandon the tried and true for the new thing that they swear is actually better. Meanwhile you get rolling blackouts and landfills filled with nothing but wind turbine blades. Total bullshit.
>>532528348>It's around WangarattaGoogling this gets me nothing, just people warning of potential risks with sites that haven't even been builtPerhaps it's in your head>oh no actually it's a lot of the land between Melbourne and Sydneylmao sure anon, pretty big area you're claiming now
>>532528355Why is someone using a confederate quoting Australia's fuel excise in litres?
>>532524556The left don't poo poo nuclear anymore...
>>532528602Nice deflection, poof
>>532523955they could have been using water as fuel for decades but you're talking about people that believe there are humans on the way to the moon right now
>>532524266your an idiot, one solar panel produces energy for 20 years, it's much more cost efficient then oil
>>532528683You didn't make any point worth engaging inIf you added on a similar 53/l price to EVs, converting to kilometres driven ofc, it's still cheaper to travel per k in an EV
>>532527575it's a passive device that turns sun into electricity. if it's "not working" it's because you're a dumb fucking nigger.
Glad I don't live in a thirdie country.
>>532528645But holy shit was it so retarded to oppose nuclear energy because the steam stacks were le scary.
>>532528531What maintenance costs? Wiping the panels from time to time?They're made to withstand hail, wind, bird poop. You don't need any maintenance on them for years
>>532528531input energy is free bro. forever. in 2004 every argument against green was probably right. Now, at worst it's still competitive against lng
>>53252881630% fuel tax is not negligible and will be passed onto you. The cost of electricity will also increase. You'll be back to makinh copes about saving da planet (jew bullshit) for your smoothbrained position in no time because your cost advantage will have evaporated.
>>532528602All memeflags are shills or bot, because no real anons would ever proudly wear a symbol that has no use but act as a glowing "im a disingenuous faggot who WILL act like a stereotype of the given flag". Doesnt help this shit was unilateraly enforced by Moot the turbo faggot following /pol/harbor and used exclusively by shills from the get go, they eventually stopped when they realized no one would take their bait, but restarted when they realized they could just samefag and pretend their bait had traction.Any oldfag itt will remember how at the start the shills used the flags to derail any discussion, even if the ad hom make no sense to use as proof of implied hidden intent. Ie had shills call me a hindi faggot for explaining what the fuck was up with Indians and why the crushing majority of them in western nations have reprehensible behavior.
>>532524266Yes they can, and far more efficiently too.
>>532528798>your an idiotThe irony.
>>532523955>please buy my electric vehicle i promise not to shut them off if your leaders say something negative about China
>>532529074Why don't you just argue for your position instead of crying about memeflags like a little bitch? Oh that's right, you can't. You resort to the default commiekike play of attacking the source.
>>532523955Oil is renewable.
>>532529145gonna buy this little bad boy soon>£26,000 (some extras added onto it)>sell old car for £6,000>get government grant for going electric £375017-18 grand for new electric car. 250 mile range i don't drive a lot anyway. 8 year warranty or 100,000 whatever comes first.
>>532524266People who don't understand money shouldn't post about it.
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>>532529060>30% fuel tax is not negligible and will be passed onto you.Of course, this whole argument is making the assumption that it does>The cost of electricity will also increase. lol, fucking citation neededWholesale Australian prices have been trending down lately, we're finally building renewable projects instead of doing absolutely nothing with electricity generation under the previous government who did nothing, not even invest in coal plants.Dunno what the point is in discussing this with a memeflag, like if you're just googling stuff about the Australian power grid and don't actually know what's going on here there's no point
>>532523955'Reneable' is a code word for antisemitism.
>>532529336Its face looks like a polandball
>>532523955Cant wait for earth to be covered in solar fields and AI data centers controlling our every move and enshittifying earths natural beauty.
>>532526313>Oil is a renewable.When are we getting the renewable price, then?
>>532529587its nice right? I think this is what car manufacturers didn't learn people want small sporty cars not your tesla clone or big family electric vehicles. It's actually a 5 door even though it looks like a 3 door.
>Why do we hate renewables againLook at that picture and how much land was destroyed for those solar panels.
>>532528930Who are you trying to insult? 70% of our electricity comes from hydropower plants.
>>532529768Was talking about America kek
>>532527773>>reliant on chink-made shitWeren't solar panels mostly pushed forward by the Germans, but they had to sell their technology because they couldn't get traction in Germany with the coal lobby?
I wouldn't hate renewable energy if it acted like the Mr Fusion in Back to the Future, like you dumb in trash and it is converted into fuel.
>>532529768>calls himself a thirdie despite generating 70% of electricity renewably
>>532529807There must be a better way to insult americans instead of comparing them to third-world countries (most of us even have free healthcare)
>>532528930-£34.77vgh, imagine if electricity wasn't coupled to the price of gas
>>532529809>why do rely on your own country for energy? we dont do that in germany!
>>532529336gl selling that one for 6000£ after 3 years
>>532529943we've 150,000 abandoned mines, and just 55 would need to be suitable to store energy in compressed air to power the whole country
>>532529900You've been beaten on for so many years you just assume we're talking about you sorry bro.>>532529943Yea I hear Labour are looking into trying to decouple the price and hopefully we get that eventually. Well the more they keep building renewables the more that's likely to happen.
>>532529383What's not to understand, they wanna raise prices, they hate free market competition
>>532524135pipe down jamboyjeet
>>532529481Bullshit. You argued the excise was a "negligible" cost when it is 30% of the fuel price. You will be on the hook for thousands of dollars and you'll be paying it, along with increased electricity costs as the cost of producing, transporting and maintaining wind turbines, batteries and solar panels increases. >Electricity is actually getting cheaper guise!Said no one ever, except you.
>>532530100Who said I'm selling it after 3 years? Even if i did selling a 3 year old electric car that comes with an 8 year warranty shouldn't be hard.
>>532523955costs $15k to install home solar. if it reduced my electric bill to zero (it wouldnt) it would take me 7 years to break even and then im due to start replacing components. the math does work any better for electric cars. gas would need to be $8 a gallon for it to save any real momey before the battery wears out. but just like communism its not a terrible idea, problem is its retarded proponents not being patient and waiting until technology makes small solar setups cost effective, makes eletric cars not shit, and makes means of production that can support the people without capitalist economics.
>>532530402Your car will be next to worthless lol. You won't even be able to drive it because the battery will be fucked.
>>532530418Solar panels come with like 15 years at least of warranty now retard. We can buy plug in panels now. Biggest cost to them is either buying a battery bank to save the electricity for another time or installing a shit load of them on a roof or something.
>>532530559>You won't even be able to drive it because the battery will be fucked.>COMES WITH AN 8 YEAR WARRANTY OR 100,000 MILEMutt eduction shining again.
>>53253041825 years, and at that point you're taking 80% efficiency. and what fucking components?
>>532530580> We can buy plug in panels now.I think its only legal in like 1 state in the US
>>532523955Not viable yet. Try running cargo ships on solar panels.
>>532530418the local electricity provider charges you for using solar
>>532523955Because they don't work.
>>532530653return to tradition
>>532530653try not making your tshirts in Vietnam
>>532530624>26000 for a small, poofy car that lasts 8 yearsYou take it up the arse, don't you?
>>532525596It really depends. I live in FL and we get sun around 10 months of the year its 90+ i really only have to pay for power is when hurricanes come through and block out the sun for a day or 2 bit other then that about 90% of the time I run my house off solar. I do have 10 panels though that pivot their angle to that of the sun though out the day so they are always producing power.
>>532530752>small sporty car>like a FORD fiesta (you know the american company) used to make>26,000 is the UPGRADED version >government gives grants of 4k just for buying electric so it'd be 22k and cheaper if i sell my old car and put that towards it.more like 16-17k retard, still buying 80k cars on lease? lmaoooo
>>532530653they ran cargo ships on wind for hundreds of years you absolute fucking retard. petroleum is MENTAL ENSLAVEMENT for nigger cattle, i swear to god.
>>532530393I said wholesale prices, and that's just gone down over the last year, it takes time to flow through to retail.https://www.sMh.com.au/business/markets/household-electricity-prices-to-fall-as-much-as-10-percent-20260319-p5pr68.html>Savage attributed this year’s proposed power price cuts mostly to falls in wholesale electricity costs – what retailers pay generators for power before supplying customers – following a period of record-breaking contributions from renewable energy, which lowered the need to call on expensive gas-burning power stations to plug supply gaps.>Renewables and giant batteries powered more than 50 per cent of the grid in the December quarter for the first time in history, crunching coal to its lowest-ever seasonal share of the mix, and gas to its lowest since 2000. Strong output from renewables, combined with a lack of major coal-fired power plant outages, helped drive a 44 per cent decline in wholesale prices.Retail prices have exploded through the roof for pretty much every country over the last few years, again I don't know what shithole you're from so I can't compare but the Ukraine war pushed them up globally (even more reason to get off imported fossil fuel dependence).Energy investment is extremely long term, we're only slowly starting to see the benefits of renewables and it's already positive. You can even look at China and how they're coping with the oil crisis to see how much benefit an renewables transition further along looks like.
>>532523955reminder hydrocarbons are absolutely renewables
