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Jesus is a man manufactured idol for religious freaks.
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>>532535219
BTFO
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Counterpoint: Christ is King
>King of the jews lol haha lmao xd
King of the Universe. Including (((You))l
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It is and it always was the sodomites. Since the dawn of time.

Drawing people into conflict with one another. To satiafy their craving for forbidden degeneracy.
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>>532535512
Anal sex in Botswana
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>>532535512
OP BTFO!
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>>532535219
Christian techings can be good. Sadly so called Christians have warped and distorted any good messages from the Bible. The pedophile protecting child murdering jesus heads should not be trusted.
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>>532535219
Religion attracts retards. Case in point:

>>532535430
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>>532535512
Treating fictional content as facts is a sign of early dementia, sir.
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>>532535512
The devil offered him all the kingdoms if jesus would worship him. I guess Jesus took the deal. Vote against the christians they worship an evil god.
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>>532535725
You can still find all the corpses of the 12 apostles.
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>>532535430
>big whoopsie
and here we are
2000 years later

>>532535512
>Christ
every
single
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>calls you a kike
>refutes everything the jews have said except one kike who died on a stick
there's always one exception to the rule that proves goyim are subservient to kikes
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>>532535854
You can't, and there's no such thing as pregnant virgins.
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>>532536124
You can still find all the corpses of babies murdered by King Herod in Lebanon.
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>>532535987
Who died and ressurrected*
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>>532537014
broad question.
which fiction we are talking about?
king arthur? flying monster spaghetti(my fav) christianity? star wars? resurrection of freezer?
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>>532536922
You can't find one article to back up your gibberish.
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>>532537552
I can. But I can't be ass to find one for you. Also.
You can still find all the corpses of the 3 magis. It's called shrine of the 3 kings.
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>>532537773
Whatever, corpses don't exactly make fairy tales real.
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If you want world history, here is one.
Also. You kept talking about Jesus. But what about mohammed?
That guy literally conquered an entire region.
https://youtu.be/-6Wu0Q7x5D0
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anti religious people are dumb af you can feel their brains melting when trying to refute it
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>>532535219
Cope and seethe, faggot.
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>>532537862
It's a real history with real causality, and the book of Revelation is a prophecy, not a story.
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>>532537930
Trying to refute what?
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>>532537789
Why are americans like this? I spit on american culture.
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>no more animal (and human) sacrifices, I've already covered it
>be nice and not vengeful like me
>its all gonna be worth it because of paradise at the end

>redditors worldwide: NOOOOOO! mom made me go to church on easter once and I'm still shitting in my diaper
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You don't have to be religious to appreciate the religion denying kikes' chosenness.
That it came from one of their own is the cherry on top and the reason for their infinite seethe.
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>>532537930
religious people are dumb af you can feel their brains melting when trying to prove it.
also, what makes your religion any realer than Greek, Norse, and Egyptian mythology?
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>>532535219
Those who bless Jesus shall be blessed. Those who curse Jesus shall be cursed.

Jesus, not Israel. There is no Double Covenant with separate salvation for Israel.
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>>532535219

Yeshua was a child molester
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>>532537998
>the book of Revelation is a prophecy
lil nigga believes in magic, you'll be dead before Christ ever comes back.
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>>532538210
Fun fact: the point of animal sacrifices was to eat the animal, not to kill it. It was a symbolic meal shared with God, not a payment of blood.
(It a sacrificial animal was deemed "unclean" then they didn't kill it, they just let it loose into the wilderness.)
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>>532535698
christian teachings are one of the worst aspects of jew worship. denial of material reality, dissolution of family ties, suffering reframed as a virtue and the worship of death
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>>532535219
There is more documented historical evidence of Jesus's existence than there is for the existence of the Roman emperor who supposedly reigned during his lifetime.
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>>532535219
He lives, He has risen.

He is more real than you or I. Read the Bible and aee for yourself!
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>>532538699
jew stories are not historical evidence. but by that your metric there is more evidence of the god poseidon being real than the magic jew
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>>532535219
OP is literally a chabad nigger kys
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>>532538699
Jesus was a charlatan and he damn well wasn't white.
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>>532535219
Begone anti christian demon
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>>532535430
fippy bippy
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>>532535219
t. Says this as His Father in heaven, God, laughs at his folly.
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>>532538899
On the day of judgement theotokos is going to hand Jesus sword with which he is going to cut off your blaspheming tongue.
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>>532538817
>Read the Bible
I'm too old for fairy tales.
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>>532538981
let me guess. in two more weeks
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>>532538981
Cope harder, human beings aren't important and sacred to have afterlife bestowed upon them, as you may believe.
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>>532538954
My father is at work right now, unlike yours that refuse to pay your child support and you don't even know his face, you retarded mongoloid.
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>>532539133
Im going to translate it into human:
>goys don’t have a divine soul like chosen people do
>>532539029
Jew
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>>532539367
Your father is a dog and his lineage will end with a waste of carbon that is you.
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>>532539372
retarded jew worshiping filth
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>>532539372
>chosen people
I laughed out loud.
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>>532539367
lol. why are you so angry favelaman?
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>>532539419
You call Sky Daddy your father because you lacked a male role model growing up.
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>>532539428
You don’t have to introduce yourself I know what you are.
>>532539468
Just as God laughed when such perversion of creation was shat out onto this world (you)
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>>532539512
Because he’s a jewish chabad dog
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>>532539512
Projecting much, malnourished poor subhuman?
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>>532539707
Stop introducing yourself to everyone ITT dog
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>>532539633
People like you start blabbering schizophrenic nonsense when you run out of arguments.
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>>532539672
Pretty much sounds like it. Seems he uses pilpul and insults to defend his position. Babby's first day on the chans. I hope he's getting paid to shill here, especially with such a fancy VPN.
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>>532539633
a perfect being creates imperfect creations, huh?
retard
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>>532539852
You should be more concerned about no starving to death than with treating fictional characters as real, just saying.
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>>532539802
Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of God Almighty, died for your sins on Calvary. He Loves You and always will no matter how much you kick and scream. He knocks, but man has given God a bad name and man has surely hurt you beyond reproach, so you're angry, upset, hurt and if not - arrogant and hardened by your hubris. Be it the former or latter, know that your Father in Heaven loves you and all you need to do to be saved is Believe in Him. He died for your sins so you can act like the little bitch you're being right now. You'll look back on this moment and cringe, but it'll be alright because He is merciful and He loves you and only He can mend your broken heart. I wish you the best anon. I hope you change your heart. organise religiosity and rituals are evil, Jesus Christ is not. Here's a free Bible in all languages, including the root words and definitions. Posted here for YOUR benefit, or any anons ITT. Have a good day further jew.

https://theword.net/
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>>532540122
Too long didn't read.
Jesus is not real.
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>>532540010
Well, let me give you some advice. Usually Brazillians are a lot more geographically educated and due to our ties it suggests that you are not representing your nation accurately - which in turn, suggests you are falseflagging. In addition, your posting, remarks, and replies are all knee-jerk type posts which you typically find when debating jews... like a woman, you respond emotionally. Thirdly: the fact that you take zero accountability for your previous posts, nor do you concede on anything suggests an arrogance that comes with a goal/agenda. Fourthly: This goal/agenda serves no purpose other than to divide and conquer already existing flags within the thread. Your use of nouns to deride fellow posters on a personal capacity suggests a level of juvenile or fledgling understanding of the environment you're posting in. Fifthly: Your logic lacks any reinforcement and aligns perfectly with your training (I am guessing you're an employee but I may be mistaken - if you're not doing this on assignment, congrats, you're helping them.)

Anyways. I said my dues so I'm not going to bother giving you any more pittance. Take my advice instead of returning to your own vomit. God Bless.
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>>532538831
Whatever you say rabbi. Denounce the talmud.
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>>532540196
Prove he isn't. :-)
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>>532540505
>Your logic lacks any reinforcement
That's rich coming from a Christ cuck.
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>>532540196
You will never be Woman.
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>>532540668
>That's rich coming from a Christ cuck.
That's rich coming from a Faggot kek
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>>532535219
religion is opiod for the unwashed masses
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>>532540516
>Whatever you say rabbi. Denounce the talmud.
Back to Discord Faggot
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>>532535219
No, Jesus is God.
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>>532540676
Jesus will never come back.
>>532540714
Did i hit a nerve?
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>>532540739
>religion is opiod for the unwashed masse
Being a Retard is for the Unwashed Masses kek
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>>532540668
Is that the best response you could come up with? Dude, how old are you? Let's forget the conversation you started and address the elephant in the room. Does your arrogance forego a basic education?
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>>532535219
>jewsus is a jew manufactured idol for religious freaks.
FTFY
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>>532535219
He is the rightful king of Iolcus and my captain
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>>532540790
>Did i hit a nerve?
No just exposing (You) as a Larping Faggot kek.
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>>532535219
Not political
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>>532535512
Good goy
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>>532540790
Oh wait, so is it real? You are a tranny? and that's why you deny God? Because you destroyed parts of your body made in the image of Christ? Well that would make sense. So the people who actually messed you up, you've embraced... and now you hate those who told the Truth. I mean, it makes sense. Pride can be very self destructive. I personally feel very sorry for troons on this board... they got sold a lie and now become slaves to it. So why the anger bro? /pol/ is your friend. We welcome all kinds of people and are free speech.
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>>532540859
>He is the rightful king of Iolcus and my captain
Anons anons as of 2026 the Trans suicide rate is at 50% kek.
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>>532540760
>No, Jesus is God.
Wasn't he supposed to be the son of god on earth conceived by a virgin or some nonsense like that?
>Does your arrogance forego a basic education?
And i repeat, that' s rich coming from a Christ cuck.
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If it's a sand religion and claims to have prophets. Throw it in the trash
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>>532541044
Op is a Faggot Kek.
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>>532535512
Based
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>>532540754
Refusal to denounce the talmud when commanded to do so gets you automatically labeled as a kike and any further opinions of yours are discarded.
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>>532535430
Based it made way for Christian Expansion kek. Based Romans.
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>>532540965
I'm filtering your ID, not reading your schizophrenic blabbering anymore. Bye.
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>>532541223
Poor babby can't handle the truth. I'm sorry for hurting your feefees. But I can tell you now, Jesus Christ is Lord and he will ALWAYS be there for you when i'm not around. :-)
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Jesus Christ is just fiction for the negative iq masses.
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Hey goyim, since OP is checking out, i'm going to post some cool pics before this thread gets deleted by his friends on discord. Save these images and share them. They're pre-exodus chan.
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>>532541132
>Refusal to denounce the talmud when commanded to do so gets you automatically labeled as a kike and any further opinions of yours are discarded.
No is going to indulge in your Schizophrenic, Faggot, Retarded Fantasies kek. Nice try
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>>532541396
>Jesus Christ is just fiction for the negative iq masses.
So Islam is just Smarter kek?
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don't forget to cast your eyes to those numbered posts all you lovely people.
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>>532541399
how about you kill yourself stupid christkike shill
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>>532541434
Ok rabbi.
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Imagine preaching Christ-oldry on the chans and calling it truth, you cannot make this shit up LOL..
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>>532541507
Denouce being a Faggot so I can get my Dopemine fix Kek!!!!!
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>>532541467
Nope, all religions are dumb.
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>>532541474
It would be nice to have multiple file uploads like Fred did before jim fed him to the pigs.

>>532541484
How about you go first and find say that to God's face when you meet Him?
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>>532541586
>Nope, all religions are dumb.
Based even Larping Pagan Faggotry.
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>>532541586
I agree, but you have me filtered so hey, at least you missed one thing we agree on.
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>daily reminder
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>>532541540
>Imagine preaching Christ-oldry on the chans and calling it truth, you cannot make this shit up LOL.
Denouce Being a Faggot. *Smirks like a leftist Karen at (You)
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ITT: A den of vipers, liars and children of Satan.
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>>532538990
And yet you watch the news!

BibleGateway.com

Read Ephesians. You can do it in 15 minutes.

Check it out.
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>>532540676
Neither will you, christranny
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>>532535219
>jesus was fake and gay! Just a normal man!
Meanwhile...
>OP: "Noah took a couple of every animal in existence, put them on a boat, and floated around for 40 days and 40 nights, while the entire Earth was covered in water. After, they found land, and Noah and his family cross-bred the entire existence of humanity over again. What did the carnivores eat? SHUT THE FUCK UP GOY! THEY ATE GRASS OKAY? REMEMBER THE SIX GORILLION!
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Oh noes, it's like we cannot adapt to them fortunes.
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>>532541702
You will never be Straight....of Hormuz kek!!!
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Look at me, i'm a humble (((you))) farmer.
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>>532541783
>Neither will you, christranny
I don't want to be a Woman Wft kek. Go back Tranny
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>>532541835
lmao, that's a good one. Jesus Christ is King.
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look at me guys, i'm a shizo according to OP. He pussied out when I told him about Jesus Christ. I wonder why?
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>>532541880
You go back to the middle east, brownoid
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>>532541813
>>532541860
This is now a Tranny Hate Thread Anons Happy Easter.
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>>532541987
>You go back to the middle east, brownoid
Why I'm not a Sandnigger?
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>>532541773
>And yet you watch the news!
I don't.
>Read Ephesians.
Urgh..
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>>532541992
Happy Easter to you too anon. But please, we need to remember that some of the troons are actual victims, others are reprobate. It's difficult to discern but discern we must because we are called to be Bereans. Unless you are a secular poster and just shitposting for the sake of it, I get it. See >>532540965
This made OP ack .
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>>532542096
Kek
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>>532542089
What's your Solution for Epstein Jews?
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>>532535219
Reminder that the bible is a statistically anomoly in terms of survivability though out history.

No other document ever has survived so well intact and un alters as the bible.
Every nation or empire that has tried to ban it, or destroy it has itself been crushed, or fell.

The Bible, its message, and its truth, has survived for over 2000 years and outlived empires, because it is the word of God, and nothing other then divine influance could explain why its survived so well

Christ is King of Kings, Lord of Lords, and host of all hosts.
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>>532542207
Amen. This is now a blessed thread.
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>>532542176
Jail time equivalent to the crimes they've committed.
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>>532541582
The fact that you keep responding instead of just ignoring me only makes you look more and more guilty.
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>>532542028
Saulstianity is a brown-coded middle eastern cult
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>>532541805
Noah's tale reads a lot like a mythology tale, i'd never believe in that nonsense lol.
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>>532542207
This dumb book survived so long because civilizations stopped going extinct and it reached the entire world because of globalization. There's nothing divine about that.
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>>532542660
You don't know anything before Egypt. But the Bible does.
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>>532535219

I was raised Christian but what made me skeptical was

-Christians maintain Christianity is universally true and everyone must believe the correct doctrine or be condemned to eternal hellfire
-but it was left up to a small handful of disciples in one corner of the Roman Empire to spread the message and later generations of the church fell into infighting and fractured over which doctrines were "correct"
-not to mention the vedic religions which have a rich and complex tradition and are older than Christianity by centuries

Why would God leave such an important universal truth so open to misinterpretation? Why would God leave the spread of this universal truth up to the contingencies of geography and history?

That seems like a massive oversight by God. OR religion is a manmade phenomenon that springs up where ever people are address the specific needs of their culture and time.

Just my two cents
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>>532535219
dude imagine atheism in 2026
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>>532543074
You may as well worship Zeus at this point.
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>>532543249
I worship the Almighty God.
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>>532543311
Jupiter? Amun?
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>>532543111
Imagine it more like a fast pass lane. Jesus puts you in his line, while everyone else goes into the main line for judgement
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>>532543311
it's crazy people like you are allowed to vote
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>>532543459
It's crazy that you believe in voting.
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>>532543459
>>532543582
Everyone that pays taxes should have the right to vote.
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>>532535430
Just imagine the Triumph after that.
> broken golden menorahs piled on carts loaded with mountains of shekels
> le unhappy merchants with signs on their necks saying "next stop, the Coliseum!"
> the most passable women the city had to offer being led to the slave markets, totally naked except for their collars, khazar milkers swaying in rhythm with the march.
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>>532543111
That's quite the levelheaded take, it would turn you into a black sheep in your community and society would promote a witch hunt against you for saying that out loud.
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>>532543434

I was raised Evangelical Protestant (they aren't Zionists up here in Canada funnily enough they just avoid talking about politics altogether) and they always taught even one minor sin violates God's "perfect justice". Your good deeds don't cancel it out and you'll be condemned to eternal hellfire after death if you don't ask Jesus for forgiveness.

That's just illogical and disproportionate to me. Why should a minor sin warrant the most severe eternal punishment? How is that "perfect justice"? A minor sin should result in a minor punishment and why should it last forever?

The vedic religions and karma make more sense to me. Your position in your next life will be proportionate to the good deeds or bad deeds you did in this life but none of it lasts forever.

But of course we can't really "prove" it either way. If it were so self evident which religion were true we wouldn't have so many different religions and atheists today
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>>532543932

Yeah I kind of am the black sheep in my family. We just avoid talking about religion now lol
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>>532543054
>nothing divine about it
Brother no other book in history has been so specifically targeted, persecuted, and sought to be destroyed as the Bibe through out all of human history, and despite this fact, it is the most well preserved ancient manuscript for over 2000 years.

The probability of that happening is so statistically impossible, the only explanation for it is fraud or in other words, an outside influence altering its probability. IE, Divine purpose.

The bible is so historically unlikely to be preserved so fucking well, that the only answer is, its right, and its true and it is Gods word.
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>>532544393
Protestants are further from Christianity than even Muslims.
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>>532545118
Muslims make the same argument about the Quran.
"Perfectly preserved" therefore divine.

Both can't be true since the Quran contradicts the NT on core issues.
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>>532535219
Seethe moar
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>>532545315
Elaborate. I listen to some orthobros like Jay Dyer and Jonathan Pageau and they always talk about how Orthodoxy is soooo different from Protestantism and Catholicism is also corrupted but I've done a bit of research on it and it doesn't seem that different to me
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>>532537945
/thread
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>>532535219
"Where is the one born king of the ___"
^this breaks every "redpilled" christkike's brain
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>>532535219
no hes not hes a child raping psychopathic false god and the actual genuine devil
there is no omnipotence
and there is no omnipotent god
what there is however
is energy
we are all energy
and some energy like jesus has a small penis and doesnt like existing
so it came up with a plan to enslave everyone else
and try to become a "god"
i told it it was a giga faggot and thats why it torments me every single day im down in its rape lair
cuz i was the first person to tell it
"no you are not a god you child raping niggerfaggot"
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>>532535219
It's the personification of the 'suffering is necessary' doctrine.

Slave Morality.

Christians can't imagine a better world because they believe in an ontology where someone had to be tortured necessarily.
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>>532535219
Better than being an idol for atheist freaks.
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>>532538981
>queen of heaven mommy bullshit
drop your idolatry
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>>532544393
you were never taught good biblical understanding.
>The vedic religions and karma make more sense to me.
no it simply does not. it results in an eternal downward spiral with no end or hope.
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>>532537945
Zoomlets forever believing invoking buzzwords is an auto-win.
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>>532550210
>no it simply does not. it results in an eternal downward spiral with no end or hope.
The end is nirvana. But even being reincarnated into better lives can be a goal. Christians can't even agree what heaven (or even hell) is. You get anything from being lobotomized and praising God all day to it being essentially just all the good aspects of this life with none of the downsides.
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>>532550746
>The end is nirvana.
and what is nirvana? you will never make it there in the first place since you will work off bad karma endlessly.
the bible teaches us that the flesh is at enmity with God from nature, only a final paid off sacrifice for all your sins suffices.
>Christians can't even agree what heaven (or even hell) is.
the bible clearly tells us that heaven will come down to earth and we will live an eternal life with God on earth.
hell is the place where those not in Christ will be burned up to never exist again, the soul is not immortal like some would make you believe.
>anything from being lobotomized and praising God all day
what makes you think God doesnt give you a reason to praise him?
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>>532535534
LMAO
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>>532535219
Congrats, you just described atheism.
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>>532551105
Why do you think anything the Bible says would have any merit if it is not true in a hypothetical reality where karma and reincarnation exists? And like I said, not everyone agrees with what you're saying about heaven and he'll. You could argue its unbiblical but nobody follows the Bible 100% as it was written by people with a completely alien culture in a time period that is completely alien to a person today.
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>>532551772
>Why do you think anything the Bible says would have any merit
because its God that reaches out to you to point you the right way?
>in a hypothetical reality where karma and reincarnation exists?
reincarnation is an evil doctrine in itself. look at india where lower caste people are treated like shit with no improvement because "they have to work off bad karma". if thats your theology move to india and live it.
>not everyone agrees with what you're saying about heaven and he'll.
its not about agreeing with someone, its about agreeing with the Word of God.
>as it was written by people with a completely alien culture in a time period that is completely alien to a person today.
greek and roman culture that influenced all of Europe throughout all its history isnt alien. its alien in asia and africa.
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>>532535512
You're welcome to your personal feelings and opinions
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>>532551333
Atheism is just a disbelief or lack of belief in God or gods.
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>>532535512
Jesus was a tranny and you're a kike.
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>>532552111
Okay, so you're one of those people not able to even fathom Christianity not being true. Unable to think in hypotheticals. Much like a nigger. And so it's pointless to argue with you instead of just considering you a mindless subhuman.
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>>532553274
its funny that you people always assume Christians are Christians from birth because of brainwashing instead of people desperate for the Truth finally finding it and pointing others towards it.
>Unable to think in hypotheticals.
I looked into all other hypotheticals and they are full of bullshit which I dont want to be part of.
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>>532553519
See >>532552749
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>>532536124
>>532538990
Actually, the old testament, written on paper around 350 AD, plagiarized the Enuma Elish that was inscribed on clay tablets 4000 years before the bible. The writers subverted the writings to favor their beliefs. The old testament is nothing more than a jewish history book.
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>>532551105
>hell is the place where those not in Christ will be burned up to never exist again

A quick Google search will show the majority of Christian denominations disagree with you there. "Eternal Conscious Torment" vs. "Annihilationist" position. Perhaps you've read the Bible yourself and your a theology expert? Anyway there are very educated theologians who disagree with you. The majority, actually.
Which again brings us back to my original problem - if correct doctrine is so important why the Bible written ambiguously enough that so many different interpretations proliferate?

>reincarnation is an evil doctrine in itself. look at india where lower caste people are treated like shit with no improvement because "they have to work off bad karma". if thats your theology move to india and live it.

Modern jeets practice a degenerated cargo cult form of the vedic religion. I wouldn't use them as an example of anything. And Buddhism was a reform movement of sorts that put way less emphasis on the caste system especially when it spread outside of India. Why don't you use East Asian societies as an example? Are you just cherry picking?

Anyway why are you getting so hostile bro? Christians and Muslims get extremely agitated and lash out when you question their dogmas. That doesn't strike me as how someone who's confident in their beliefs would act
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>>532556017
>A quick Google search will show the majority of Christian denominations disagree with you there.
because they are daughters of the mother harlot who invented the concept of eternal torment to fleece the people and get its pockets full by telling them they can buy others and themselves out of that torment.
>Perhaps you've read the Bible yourself and your a theology expert?
no, I listen to what Jesus says.
he talks about perishing, the death of the soul, we know that God is a consuming fire, we know sin results in death etc.
the bible doesnt talk about believers having eternal life with God, and those that are not in God will suffer forever while God gives them eternal life too? no, thats not what its talking about.
>if correct doctrine is so important why the Bible
its not about doctrine, its about sound biblical understanding.
>different interpretations proliferate?
they are not, humans are just not that clever and are fallible.
>Why don't you use East Asian societies as an example?
gnosticism has that concept of hylics, psychics and pneumatics system too which is just another form of caste system and its western and wide spread.
its all the same satanic cult with these tradition, that you are someone special and the rest is trash.
>Anyway why are you getting so hostile bro?
if you think the Truth is hostile then thats a (You) problem. I am not being hostile here.
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>>532535512
>King of the Universe
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>>532551105
>and what is nirvana? you will never make it there in the first place since you will work off bad karma endlessly.

Also lol. So how did the Buddha reach nirvana? Why did he teach other people it's possible to reach nirvana in this lifetime?

Not saying I believe the claims of Buddhism are literally true either btw but clearly you don't know anything about Buddhism.
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>>532556550
>because they are daughters of the mother harlot blah blah blah
No True Scotsman with you faggots. Every. Single. Time.
>Hurr durr only i interpret duh bibul correctly
Kill yourself.
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>>532556639
>So how did the Buddha reach nirvana?
how do you know he did.
>Why did he teach other people it's possible to reach nirvana in this lifetime?
because he was a false teacher.

again you failed to answer what Nirvana actually is.
this concept of becoming nothingness? loosing yourself? like what is it.
the result is nothing in the end which is like eternal non existence. whats the point.
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>>532556799
>>Hurr durr only i interpret duh bibul correctly
they are well known biblical teachings, nothing new.
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>>532556550
>I listen to what Jesus says

So what of the parable of the rich man and Lazarus?
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>>532535219
What’s your preferred method for ingraining virtue in a people?
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>>532557017
I have no business in people's level of virtue.
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>>532553519
>Truth
What, the Sky daddy none of you can prove the existence of?
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>>532556916
exactly the rebuke against eternal soul concept.
you need to understand where it comes from, its a pagan concept. if you do well in life, if you are someone of importance and are rich you take that wealth and status with you into the afterlife where you then are someone big who rules over others.
thats why pharaohs were entombed with their riches and servants, thats why nordics were buried with their treasures and weapons etc. all pagan religions had that concept of maintaining their status after death.
this teaching infiltrated into judaism and the pharisees and teachers believed they are above others just because of their higher positions.
Jesus rebukes that by telling them, if you concept was true and real that beggar would be highly exalted above you lying scoundrels, he would have peace with Abraham while you would face torment.
he btfos them on their false believes. he is not describing an actual reality. he tells them they have it wrong by painting a disturbing picture for them.
you status in life does not take over into the afterlife where you will continue to be the big guy.
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>>532556799
>>532556550

>Humans are sinful and prone to error according to the Bible
>I read the Bible for myself and came to exactly the correct conclusions
>How do I know my mind wasn't clouded by sin whilst reading it? God guided me.
>Other people read the Bible and came to different, wrong conclusions because they were deceived by sin or demons or whatever
>How do I know that it was God guiding me and not my own sin deceiving me? I just do ok SHUT UP

Big brain nibba over here
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>>532535219
See
>>532535512
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>>532557387
>But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you.

John 14:26
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>>532535219
>>532557227
Hey OP. It's been five hours and you're still angry. Are you regretting the surgery or the fact that you got conned? I'm trying to re-connect with you in the hopes that I can tame your fears and lend my ears. I don't expect you to respond in good faith, but I'm trying regardless. Jesus Christ Loves You king...
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Christ cucks have such a savior complex even though they don't know shit about nothing, and they want to "guide" lost souls. lol
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>>532535219
Aye, but unlike Mohammed he actually does some good as such.
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>>532557517
Christ cucks resort to blurting out religious nonsense when pressed against the wall.
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>>532541223
You filtered me because I BTFO'd your arguments. If you will reconsider - I would happily and calmly attempt to engage in apologetics so as to try to make you reconsider your position. At this point, via the process of reductions... you are either
>A) a kike shill
>B) a literal tranny
>C) a favelamonkey who was hurt by man and "church".
>D) a shitposter who thinks he's enlightened because he read a book.
>E) a glownigger bot.

Either or, i'm glad you're still around. It's an opportunity to remind you that Jesus Christ is Lord and LIVES.
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>>532557851
I have seen a lot of death. Once I came across some black man, he had a fucking hole in his head. His brains were spread across the road. It was almost surreal because even though this man didn't share anything remotely with my race, culture, religion, thoughts - he was there. His head was splattered, it was like a black hole within this massive opening in his skull. I've seen lots of dead kids too but for some reason, this random black dude with a hole in his head bothered me. So I wondered.... Are these meat sacks concious? Are YOU concious? I don't know man... I think people such as yourself are either NPC's who have no soul or you're reprobate and hate Jesus so much that your hearts have been hardened beyond reproach. Anyways, the black dude with the hole in his head seemed to promote a lot more sense than all of your posts in this thread. You've done nothing but make a fool of yourself. I hope you sober up and return to this thread in the morning. Your shame and sorrow will remind you of the Truth. I tell you this because I was once there myself.
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>>532558104
Based
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>>532558662
You are based, sevenfold brother.
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>>532535219
Jesus is literally the savior of mankind. Ask him to be your savior because salvation is found in none other. You do not want to hear the words "away from me I never knew you" when you meet Him.
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>>532535219
Only worthless meat think god is real
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I'm adding superiority complex to the list.
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>>532558921
AMEN.

>>532558662
pray for us. please.

>>532558957
Were you ever called to the principles office? Threatened by your mom about your dad coming home for a hiding? Pulled off the road with a threat of imprisonment? Have you ever even had your shit kicked in by a bully? Were you even ever bullied? Have you even ever been in a fight where you got your shit kicked in? You think you hold the higher road but deep down inside you know that death is knocking and you are terrified of it. Don't cry when it's over. You know what you know. By the way... Purity cannot exist with filth. Oil cannot exist without water. God doesn't wish to punish you in Hell, He simply cannot exist in a pure environment because He is only as good as his own words. God is a programmer, you are in a counterstrike1.3 server and you have free will. Simple as. Then again, you sound like a zoomie so I would recommend you fuckoff and lurk more (on the internet in general).
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>>532557517

That verse doesn't prove anything when people have read the Bible over the centuries and come to different conclusions on basic things like what happens after you die and they also claim to be guided by the Holy Spirit.

>again you failed to answer what Nirvana actually is. this concept of becoming nothingness

Ah right in my laymen's understanding it's defined a state that's beyond karmic cause and effect. The original Buddhist scriptures were kind of vague on it. But they think you can still be conscious and experiencing bliss if you want to. And some schools like Mahayana teach some people reach nirvana then stick around earth as Bodhisattvas to teach other people how to reach it out of compassion.

I'm not saying I think any of it is literally true it might just be techniques to regulate your thinking and emotions and that's why they got popular because they helped people think clearly and not be controlled by their impulses. I've been reading up on Buddhist techniques for doing that and found them pretty useful in my personal life.
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>>532538061
God works in mysterious ways, here he makes lards do some cardio. I don't see a problem.
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>>532538210
More like we have a cabal of retards picking and choosing what parts of the desert fairy tales they like, and thinking a the rapture is on the way so support Israel.
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>>532557517

Like Buddhism has some parallels with cognitive behavioral therapy for breaking bad habits or addictions or preventing ruminating on negative thoughts that could lead to harmful actions.
Maybe that's just what it was and all the metaphysical stuff about nirvana and past lives and shit was just an allegory for the masses to contextualize it and help them remember and practice these techniques.
Again I don't know. It's ok to not know. (Although not according to Abrahamics - epistemic humility isn't allowed THEY know the truth and you're an idiot and deserve to die if you disagree lol)
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2 more millennia
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>>532559691
>have read the Bible over the centuries and come to different conclusions on basic things like what happens after you die and they also claim to be guided by the Holy Spirit
you have no idea how much false info satan puts out into the world and especially false christian teachings. the dude doesnt sit still, he corrupts our thinking.
if you come to faith today its best to think everything you know is false and to start over from scratch. its that bad.

>>532560443
>epistemic humility isn't allowed THEY know the truth and you're an idiot and deserve to die if you disagree lol
thats why we are told to humble ourselves and let Christ be our teacher.
nobody can have 100% accurate theology and know 100% what the bible says.
I can read passages of the bible and understand zero about it, but then turn to the next chapter and go like aha, I get what God is talking about here.
believers are commissioned for a specific job, the bible covers everything needed, but your specific commission is not covered by 100% of the bible, only parts of it.
thats the mind blowing thing about it to me, passages that are directly addressed to you personally by God thousands of years ago. nobody can make that shit up, it has to be from God to be true.
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>37 posts by this is
CHABAD JEW IS MALDING GEEEEEEEEEEEEG
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>>532561123
>you have no idea how much false info satan puts out into the world and especially false christian teachings. the dude doesnt sit still, he corrupts our thinking

Again, this sounds like massive oversight by God to me. If believing the correct things about Jesus were so critical to gaining eternal life, why allow Satan to deceive people who sincerely want to seek God but just don't have the time or intellectual ability to thoroughly read the Bible?
Up until recently in historical terms most poor people were illiterate and books were prohibitively expensive. They had to rely on whatever their priest told them.

Christians say God doesn't interfere because he wants to preserve free will or something but if people aren't exposed to the correct information, that also hinders their "free will" to choose to believe the correct thing.

Do you see what I'm getting at?
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>>532558572
What do dead niggers have to do with jesus?
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every mass religion is a bundle of basic societal morality and comforting lies tied together into a substitute of hope
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>>532562154
>If believing the correct things about Jesus were so critical to gaining eternal life
faith in the atoning death of Jesus on the cross in the only critical thing.
the rest is for your own benefit for sound teachings to confirm your salvation.

maybe you dont know this, but most churches dont give you a 100% guarantee that you are saved and then teach you have to do this and that to remain saved. this is absolutely absurd.

>why allow Satan to deceive people who sincerely want to seek God
if you really do God makes sure of it and will remove the influence satan has over you. once your secure in Christ satan loses 100% of the time no matter how hard he tries.
>They had to rely on whatever their priest told them.
and they are judged according to that. now we have the bible freely accessible everywhere because of the internet, how much more harshly will the judgement be in this generation?

>Do you see what I'm getting at?
yes, you think you have to work to be secure in Jesus Christ and have to be a scholar of scripture. for me personally, yes I invest around 2 hours every day either listening to scripture or looking stuff in the bible up simply because its my passion, it gives me peace and makes me calm and gives security.
but you dont have to, faith is sufficient, but making sure that faith stays steadfast means you have to dedicate time to God to teach you.
but here is the kicker, he decides what he teaches you and when, its just a natural process. maybe you only have 30 minutes a day, or one day in the week to spent time with God and his Word, but that can be sufficient enough.
in the end it is not required of you to become a bible scholar. its that time you seek with God that matters and its for your own benefit alone.
being a Christian is not a chore, the yoke is light and ultimately what you get out of it is what God intended for you.
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>>532563069
>faith in the atoning death of Jesus on the cross in the only critical thing.
>yes, you think you have to work to be secure in Jesus Christ

Faith is a sort of "work". You choose to believe the words in this book that a fellow called Jesus who died and came back to life 2000 years ago.

There are plenty of reasons someone may not choose to believe that assertion that have nothing to do with pride or willful malice or whatever you ascribe to them.

>and they are judged according to that. now we have the bible freely accessible everywhere because of the internet, how much more harshly will the judgement be in this generation

By that logic it's better to not preach to some people if you know they'll reject it for these morally neutral reasons.

For me it's a problem of epistemology and unequal access to information conflicting with a "just" God. And this conflict disappears if you consider all religions may be memes spread by humans.

And your only answer is "God told me so I have faith." Like ok that's just a subjective experience.

>Experience it for yourself

That's what Buddhists in their meditation claim. That's what Sufis with their spinning around in circles like retards claim. They're experiencing Allah and if you also experienced it you'd know Allah is the truth.
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>>532564293
>You choose to believe
no you dont. you cant go to God and say I chose to believe in you. its God putting that desire in your heart in the first place.
>By that logic it's better to not preach to some people if you know they'll reject it for these morally neutral reasons.
you preach the gospel to believers to teach them, God is the one that converts people.
>For me it's a problem of epistemology and unequal access to information conflicting with a "just" God.
Paul goes into this in Romans 2

12 For all who have sinned without the law will also perish without the law, and all who have sinned under the law will be judged by the law. 13 For it is not the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but the doers of the law who will be justified. 14 For when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law. 15 They show that the work of the law is written on their hearts, while their conscience also bears witness, and their conflicting thoughts accuse or even excuse them 16 on that day when, according to my gospel, God judges the secrets of men by Christ Jesus.

in the end God judges the hidden intentions of the hearth of each single person. if God decided to save an island dweller 5000 years ago on the other side of the earth he put that into his heart sovereignty.

>And your only answer is "God told me so I have faith."
LOL no, God gave me faith and the Holy Spirit first. he guided me to his Word over years of believing other lies. God dragged me sovereignly out of heretical false teaching to his pure Word himself.

>>Experience it for yourself
being a christian is not about having an "experience" its about wanting the Truth. where am I, why am I here, why is this happening to me etc. God answers those questions.
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>>532535219

I agree. But he was also a great teacher, and his wisdom is timeless. He truly taught people about the Kingdom of Heaven, and one day all the world will follow his teachings out of a place of pure rationality, rather then dogma.
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>>532565131
Rationality tend to steer people away from Jesus.
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>>532565243

Rationality steers people away from the church, and towards humanism and kindness. After all, a world where everyone takes care of each other and does right be one another would be a paradise for all involved. The churches do not speak for Jesus, they attempt to claim him, and then use his name to justify cruelty, even though Christ taught kindness. People who revolt against the church for it's cruelty (cruelty cannot survive logical scrutiny), are in reality returning to Christ.
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>>532565042

Ok here's a question for you:

How would you distinguish between God revealing truth to you vs. someone in another religion having an equally convincing but false experience?
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>>532553986
>Actually, the old testament, written on paper around 350 AD, plagiarized the Enuma Elish that was inscribed on clay tablets 4000 years before the bible.

That's how I know you've read little to nothing of the Bible. The Bible only spends about 11 chapters out of 50 chapters in the single book of Genesis on creation matters. Most of the Bible is actually historical.
Even so, the Bible didn't plagarize a non-historical mythical book.
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>>532535512
everything is made up by the grand schemer of the universe. Makes sense he would come to this Earth just to sacrifice his child.
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>>532565621

According to your book of choice, Jesus literally founded the church with Peter being its first representative. Take it up with jeebus if you disagree with that lmao
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>>532535219
Go fuck a tranny you shitskin faggot. Nobody cares what some third worlder thinks.
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>>532566018
is that person glorifying God or are his spiritual fruits contrary to God.
>roman catholicism
>glorifies mary, practices rituals like mass for remission of sins

>protestant
>have to follow these rules and regulations to be part of our church

>islam
>glorifies a warmonger, told to conquer people and land, walks around a cube to get sins forgiven

>hinduism
>glorifies a pantheon of gods who are vile in nature, dont even know if they address the sin nature
>have to perform vile rituals to ascend

>gnosticism
>promotes the self, the ego becoming god (you can be like Christ on your own effort)

>buddhism
>again, on your own effort

>new age
>just be yourself, self promotion and enlightenment through drugs

>paganism
>be the best and greatest you can in this life to receive rewards in the afterlife

how does God glorify himself? by pointing you to the completed work on the cross for YOU. no input from you needed. God already accomplished everything on your behalf. be humble, sit down and let God glorify you by doing the works he predestined for you to walk in. God does the changing of your being, he gets the credit, he is the prime mover, you are the secondary element being beholding his glory.
you are the human, God is God. you glorify him by your testimony of what God has done for you and with you. God gets the credit and noone else.


tl;dr; by their fruits you will know them.
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>>532566018
dont know if I understood that question correctly tho.
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I would rather be every bad thing the world accuses christians of being, as opposed to
>a fucking kike
>a good goy kikeslave
>a fat disgusting loli-addicted wignat
>a mudslime
>a fat fedora-tipping atheist
>a stinky neopagan permavirgin
>a baby-murdering radical feminist
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>>532568071
Hitler warned that Christianity is Jewish!
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Christianity is a Jewish Psy-Op
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>>532570167
and, do eurpeans practice judaism now or what?
what a stupid fucking meme.
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>>532535534
this has to be blasphemy
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you sound jewish and I dont like jews
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>>532567983

Ok.

You said you can tell what’s true by whether it “glorifies God” and by the “fruits.” My question is: how do you determine what counts as properly glorifying God in the first place?

Without referencing the Bible or direct knowledge revealed to you by God. I'm looking for some neutral criterion.

Otherwise this is just circular reasoning
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>>532558104
The favelanigger spammed the whole thread kek
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>>532535219
He never existed
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>>532571408
>My question is: how do you determine what counts as properly glorifying God in the first place?
walking in his statutes and commandments. now you could say a false person could preach the gospel and look outwardly as a person of God and you would be 100% correct.
thats why God is the judge of each person and we are not to judge who is of God and who is not. thats the entire point. we cant tell who is of God and who not or can you read whats going on in a persons heart or mind? nobody can, not even a person of Christ.
but you can expose false teachings, because it is what God put into your heart and mind that exposes them.
so if a person says we need to pray for Israel you can directly know that something is wrong
if a person says any religion leads to God you know its wrong.
we need to advance humanity, wrong. etc.
God put into your heart what is true and that is learned through the bible because its direct testimony in advance for you and not hidden, no matter how much people twist scripture.
again, nobody is 100% correct including myself. I just repeat what God said in the first place.
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>>532535512
I love how people chimped out at Ted Cruz just for saying this expression is legit but hijacked by antisemitic pseudo-Christians obsessed with Jews, basically just for saying the truth
You prove him right
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>>532535512
Where's the counterpoint? Just saying some dumb shit doesn't prove it?

I am your king. Kneel.

See?
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>>532535219
HOURLY REMINDER: there is no god, jesus never existed and when you die it will be nothingness for eternity!!



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