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Oh yeah, that happened...
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>>532543462
>Victory

Compare the losses each side took and you'll see the Taliban got wrecked.

Don't believe wikipedia or liberals.
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>>532543771
>muh highscore
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>>532543905
Mongols and Romans won by wiping everyone out.
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>>532543905
>brazilian

Bro I'm actually white so let me tell you what is white and what is nigger.
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>>532543771
>6k+ veterans offing themselves every year after the war started
yeah, US sure won.
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>>532544769
Keep telling yourselves the victims won if that makes you feel better.
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>>532544915
Donald Trump is replacing you with pajeets
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>>532545252
I see that.

This won't matter as racism increases because jeets are genetically inferior.
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>>532543771
You lost mutt. And you will lose in Iran too.
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>>532545450
>netherlands

Bro I'm white but my white nationalities are superior to yours. I'm the higher level white.
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>>532543771
Real life isn't a Call of Duty deathmatch.
In terms of achieving stated wargoals, the USA suffered an overwhelming defeat.
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>>532545531
You lost mutt.
>muh more whiter than you
how does that copium taste?
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BRICS third worldist types are attacking their superiors again. You're probably a pardo troon from sao paulo
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>>532545960
You lost :)
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>>532545750
Stated war goals are just optics.

You should know this.

>>532545797
Don't get me wrong I want to let Iran nuke Israel.
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>>532546045
First Israel, and then the U.S :)
Both cancers eradicated
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>>532543462
More proof that Trump is completely incompetent buffoon who has no idea how war works.
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>>532546165
Any country that supports non-whites needs to be destroyed and rebuilt.

This includes USA and at least a few European countries.
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>>532546045
You're right. In truth, the USA won because we achieved all our secret unstated realpolitik wargoals:
1. Obtain zero resources, territory, or anything else of strategic importance
2. Kill or wound thousands of US Armed Forces personnel
3. Further destabilize Middle Eastern regional geopolitics
4. Inflate the ranks of radical Islamist terror groups and enhance the rhetoric of their recruiters for decades
5. Flood the western world with war refugees
6. Embarrass the international prestige of the United States of America

Mission Accomplished!
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>>532548132

1) How many Taliban died?

2) How long was their country kept in constant war?

Their growth is exceedingly stunted, they have been dealt a horrible blow.
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Amerigolems genuinely think wars are about walking into a country their jewish "advisors" choose and killing more people than they lose.
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>>532549205
Worked for the Mongols and Romans.
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>>532543771
Kek
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>>532548705
In what way did America win in Afghanistan, you retarded kike shill?
What did we get out of it other than trillions wasted for no good reason and the Taliban retaining control of their own country just like it was before the war
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>>532549285
no, not really.
Romans were genocided by those same people. Same for the Mongols.
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>>532543462
>>532543771
>>532546045
>>532548705

>Ha ha! The US didn't lose! Count the number of american civilians living in Afghanistan who died! Ha ha. We had secret 5D motives you don't know about!
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In normal times, the loss of Afghanistan would be the most studied and talked about event in the 2020s, but it was forgotten after 5 days.
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>>532549403
We trashed the living shit out of our enemy, then we left. That's all that happened, everything else is propaganda.
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>>532549754
>>532549590
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>>532549439
Romans were genocided by who?
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>>532543462
Do we own Afghanistan like we’re going to own Venezuela and Iran?

No?


Shocking…
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We kicked the shit out the Taliban for 20 years then left. Muzzies trest not being genocided as victory because actual victory is impossible for them. If US troops ever return to Afganistan the Taliban will flee immediately to hide in caves. They know better than yo fight America
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>>532549439
Mongols and Romans wiped out entire peoples (man, women and children)
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>>532543462
during biden
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>>532549754
the war-goal was destroying the Taliban and setting up a US puppet-government in Afghanistan.
That puppet-government collapsed immediately and the Taliban took back control of Afghanistan. The Taliban don't care if you spent 2 decades murdering tens of thousands of them. They don't care about high casualties, they believe in a doctrine of being rewarded for martyrdom in the afterlife and their only goal was taking back control, which they did.
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>>532543462
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Americans suck at war but at least they used to have good propaganda, now they don't even have that, sad
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>>532550442
The "war goals" are just optics.

They're doing so horrible right now and it's all because of us.
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>>532543771
In an offensive war, if the enemy doesn't capitulate, and if the country isn't under your control. That is a loss by every metric and definition.

Our goal was to take Afghanistan, wipe out the Taliban, and install our own government. We failed to do all 3. We lost.

This is the same cope boomers had about Vietnam.
>"Well we fucked them up and if we wanted to we could've flattened that country but we didn't a bunch of Americans got killed and them we left okay not a big deal!"

Afghanistan won, Vietnam won, we won the war for our independence. Did we go over to Britain and siege London? Of course not because that would be fucking RETARDED. You fight to survive, make the British, or in this case us Americans, bleed enough that we'll say "fuck this it's not worth it", and bail.

I share a board with actual retards.
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>>532543462
>october 7th
i'm nooooooticing
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>>532543940
so they were more effective than the modern US military?
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>>532550589
Our goal was to oppress the muslims and ruin their chances of success.

Goal accomplished.

We won again.
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>>532550522
what does that even mean? Seriously?
We are seeing levels of coping rarely witnessed by human eyes.
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>>532551144

It means that the war goals presented to the public are just for show, also:

>>532550837
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>>532550762
YES, the USA fights wars with rules of engagement. You can’t win wars like that.
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>>532551207
success with what, Afghanistan in the year 2001 was one of the poorest countries on earth, an Islamist pariah state which main export were left-over Soviet guns and poppies for producing heroin.
If your goal was oppressing the ideology of Islam or the Muslim population you made an even worse job because the Taliban are back in charge and can now claim to be liberators from the American occupation, they are most likely more popular in Afghanistan now than they were in 2001. And the Muslim population in the USA grew by over 300-400% in that time. Good job.
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>>532551782
200k Afghanistanis died and their country was in constant war for 20 years.

USA was flourishing the whole time.

Afghanistan got killed.

Also Biden should kill himself he's a race traitor.
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>>532543771
>afghanistan Total Fertility Rate: 4.8 children per woman
>US Total Fertility Rate: 1.6 children per woman
Do you understand that Afghans are reproducing at such a high rate that each generation their number of men multiplies by 2.4 while Americans are reproducing at such a low rate that our number of men is multiplied by 0.8? We would’ve had to kill literally millions to win. There were 21 million Afghans in 2001 and there are 45 million of them today. If you think of war in terms of first regime control and second demographics, we catastrophically lost both.
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>>532552175
Yes bacteria multiplies very quickly.

We observe this with all the lesser races.
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>>532552240
and so you admit “200k afghans killed” is a meaningless statistic
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>>532552338
No I don't think it becomes meaningless just because they've replaced their numbers.
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>>532543771
Union lost more than Confederacy. Allies lost more than Axis. If only that was how wars were decided!
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>>532552535
Islam isn't the Union nor the Allies.

You are projecting an upward trajectory onto them which doesn't exist.
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>>532551937
the population of Afghanistan grew, the Taliban as an organization is larger than it is back then. Also interesting to consider here: Most war deaths were caused by the Taliban on the civilian Afghan population, not Americans killing Taliban. The war caused the Taliban to murder more people to get back to power.
The Taliban don't care about casualties or the economy, they are religious extremist who believe their rule/government is divinely mandated by the creator of the universe.
No matter what you think the US agenda in Afghanistan is, it failed. There were conspiracy theories that the Americans wanted to get the poppy supply from Afghanistan, even that didn't work out in the long run, if that's true.
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>>532552596
They achieved their objectives despite a higher death toll; they won. K/D doesnt win wars are many mutts apparently still havent realized that
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>>532552708
And* many mutts
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>>532552685
It was a clear victory for USA. To the point where we didn't genocide them merely because we didn't want to look bad.
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>>532552708
They would be doing so much better now had the USA not partially genocided them.

Good thing we did. Maybe we'll do it again.
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>>532550589
what was the point of the war? not the propaganda the actual reason.
>excuse to give the MIC "tax" money
they succeeded and moved on to the next war
if chad fucks your girl for 10 years while you live in the cuckshed then moves on to another slut you didn't win cucks.
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>>532551937
Afghanistan still won, and guess what...

YOU FORGOT ABOUT THE COST.
PAY UP GOY!
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>>532543462
Uh, we dropped bombs on them, that means we won.
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>>532553222
>GEORGE FLOYD WON!

Bro you're a faggot.
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>>532552940
Like 300 thousand people in a nation of 30 million died, that is 1% of them. Very lame "genocide" imo, but ofc mutts like you will make up all sorts of copes in order to not simply admit it was a defeat.
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>>532553289
Lol I get it Germany got genocided by the Allies after genociding the jews and the Russians.
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>>532552940
The plan never was to simply stifle the economy of Taliban-controlled Afghanistan, that's in your head. And even if it was (why would it be?), they more than doubled their GDP per capita since 2002 AND funniest of all, though your invasion and toppling of the government and the 20 years of chaos, their national debt vanished.
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>>532553348
Germany % wise lost more people than your great "partial genocide" in afghanistan killed, yea. It still recovered quite well. So will the afghans, and you cant handle this simple truth.
Adding onto this, germany lost the war, afghans did not.
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>>532549754
Tell that to the Kabul airport victims. Keeeeeek
And you tucked tail and left the same day.
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>>532553592
Germany accomplished a lot of goals and then took a beating.

Did it lose? Idk. Total Death To All Jews.

Afghanistan lost though.
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>>532543462
If a rapist comes into your house, rapes your family and kills a couple of then, fucks with your stuff, then gets bored and leaves with no consequences....who is the victor in that scenario?
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>>532553695
Germany was occupied and surrendered, thus it lost
The taliban drove out the americans and are now back in power, thus they won
Why is this so hard for you to understand/admit?
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>>532552517
sure, ok, now how much aid did we provide to them in the meantime while we were building up their economy? We spent $145 billion on direct reconstruction and non-military aid plus biden left $7 billion in US hardware behind.
In 2001 Afghanistan had a GDP of $2.8 billion. Thanks to all the aid we gave them, they now have a GDP of $18 billion. over a 6x increase. That’s double the US increase of 3x in the same time. For reference, that’s lower than their northern neighbors, who had increases as high as 13x to 15x, but I’d bet the Taliban’s policies like “no education for women” coupled with western sanctions would’ve made things even worse than the war did.
So we didn’t cripple their economy, we didn’t cripple their demographics, we didn’t cripple their military. In fact, the Taliban is in control of even more of the country today (100%) than they were in 2001, when they only controlled 85% while being five years into a brutal civil war. They won unbelievably hard and they did it by simply waiting us out. And now they’re exporting islamists to London and Berlin as “refugees”.
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>>532553795
Mutt on vacation fucking ladyboys
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>>532553856
You seem to be stuck in your little definition for winning and losing.

But even if we play by your rigid definition, the Allies eventually left Germany and Germany recovered. So this would mean, by your definition, that Germany won.
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>>532546258
Iran is whiter than the US of A, fyi
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>>532553280
Still have to pay that debt, lil buddy
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>>532554056
>GEORGE FLOYD MIGHT BE FUCKING DEAD BUT CHAUVIN WENT TO JAIL!
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>>532553960
Some of the allies are still here. And no, a war is over when the fighting ends, or if you want to get technical, when a peace agreement is reached.
Anyways why are you so unable to admit afghanistan was a defeat? Is your ego really this tied to some zogbot MIC adventure?
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>>532554005
USA might have garbage subhumans there, but Iran has no actual Whites.

>>532554101
Because I think that Germany won by genociding the jews and the bolsheviks.

And I think Afghanistan lost because they got trashed with nothing in return.
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>>532550442

Based krautposter
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>>532553795
would be right, if America was at war with Afghanistan, the country, they weren't. Their enemy, the whole time, was the Taliban, which were ruling Afghanistan. That's why the war went on when the Afghani government collapsed and a new Afghani government was put in its place, because the Taliban weren't defeated but were fighting on.
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>>532554180
You think winning a war = having a good killcount then?
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>>532554279
I think winning a war is about oppressing your enemy.
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>>532554345
Well in that case the taliban won again, for they are no longer opressed by the USA
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>>532543771
>This is what amerimutts actually believe
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>>532554418
They've got oppressed for 20 years and now they're still under the thumb of the USA.


USA won.

Just chill lil bro I know what I'm talking about.
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>>532554451
>amerimutt

Don't all your daughters get fucked by Mohammed and Achmed?
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>>532554471
Theyre still under the thumb of US? how so
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>>532543771
>muh K:D

So Hitler won WW2? You burger fucks are so stupid.
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>>532554516
If they step out of line the USA will shit on them again.
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>>532554517
Yes Hitler won WW2 and you should worship him for turning Poland white.
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>>532554517
I regret to inform you that its still called danzig because we killed a lot of poles. I dont make the rules, jose van gradburg does
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>>532554548
To lose again? Lol
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>>532554345
the Taliban are so oppressed by you that they rule Afghanistan and take fun rides in your helicopters and SUVs.
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>>532554658
To oppress them again for another 20 years.

Lol Afghanistani assholes must be so wide by now.
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>>532554693
>GEORGE FLOYD WON! HE'S SMOKING YOUR FENTANYL IN HEAVEN RIGHT NOW!
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>>532554709
I deeply wish mutts go back to afghanistan, apparently you arent yet humbled
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>>532554857
>GEORGE FLOYD WOULD KICK DEREK CHAUVIN'S ASS IF YOU GAVE HIM ANOTHER CHANCE!!

Lol dude you're a faggot.
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>>532543771
Fucking humiliating post, why would you do this to yourself
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>>532554940
Why are you bringing up some dead nigger, i couldnt care less
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>>532554754
you think the real war goal was just to "oppress" them. What does that even mean. And what larger goal does that serve and why is that worth trillions of dollars in your eyes? If you mean "war is about making the other side uncomfortable" every war was won by every side who ever fought a conflict.
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>>532555030
War is about destroying your enemy, partially or fully.

This can't be that hard to comprehend.
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>>532555114
They aren't destroyed. They are the ruling organization of the country.
I just won a war against the Chinese army, btw and I replaced Xi Jinping and the CCP with Xi Jinping and the CCP. Check mate. See you later, losers.
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>>532555114
The taliban are in control of afghanistan, stronger than ever, with all your fancy gear they stole. That is them winning, and (you) losing
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>>532543771
The Taliban rules Afghanistan now and your Israeli masters don’t. Sneeth, jeet.
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>>532555224
>>532555228

They lost 200k lives and spent 20 years in war.

That is them being partially destroyed, mission accomplished. War won.
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>>532555114
Go back to India. We can all smell you through the screen, MIGGERJEET.
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>>532555304
The Taliban are a bunch of inbred monkeys who spent the last 20 years getting genocided, they don't run anything. They're children.
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>>532555324
And you are LITERALLY fucking Indian. Let’s be honest, who really lost?
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>>532555418
>>532555381

You are enraged.

You lost.
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>>532555394
You are Indian, you talking about inbred monkeys is rich. Go back to India.
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>>532555467
You are Indian. You lost!
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>>532550837
>muslim mayor of NYC
>muslim call to prayer played on loudspeaker in multiple US cities
Retarded israeli loyalist
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>>532555324
the soviets once upon a time killed many afghans too, and then fled as well. At least they had the decency to write cool songs about it, mutts could never
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Remember that migger zionist glowniggers have outsourced all the work previously done by Israelis to pajeets. They’re ALL jeets.
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>>532555534
Lol you think I'm loyal to Israel?

Death To All Jews.

Now re-think everything else you thought.
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>>532555324
If the UK invaded the american revolutionaries, killed tens of thousands and stayed there for 8 years but when they left the colonies are now a larger country, would you say the UK won?
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Miggerism is a JEET movement. Anytime you see a migger, remind them that they are Indian and watch how they shrink and recoil at being found out!
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>>532555632
You are still fucking Indian
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>>532555632
Did you know Goebbels considered americans "half negrified, half judaized"? You are a great example of that rn
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>>532555324
The Taliban never lost 200k people btw. They lost around 70k fighters and the Afghani government + USA lost around 71k. +over 40k civilians with either Taliban or government or no sympathies in the war.

So, the Taliban fought de facto a civil war within Afghanistan against an American-backed enemy and won with around the same number of casualties on both sides.
Explain to me how that analysis is wrong.
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>>532555744
We allowed so many civilians to die because we were killing Afghanistan first and foremost, not the Taliban.

Even civilian Afghanis give birth to Taliban.
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>>532543771
Cool, who is the current govt in Afghanistan again?
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>>532546045
>our openly stated goals were not actually our goals
You must have those goalposts mounted in the bed of a pickup truck
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>>532555705
You've been brainwashed into thinking conquering people is jewish or negroid. It's the whitest thing there is.
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>>532555828
that is in your head. You didn't fight against Afghanistan, most of the war, the Afghani government was your alli/puppet. You are deluded about the conflict.
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>>532555914
You didnt conquer the afghans anon, you fled after they didnt roll over
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>>532555919
These are just modern day crusades with the goal of oppressing muslims, don't get yourself confused with all the words and labels.
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>>532556003
Yeah you can tell your idiot kids that retard story.
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>>532556028
You and yours cannot help but change what the stated war goals were, because admitting what they were and are means you plainly lost the war
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>>532543771
Nice bait bro you deserve all those (thou)s
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>>532556028
American evangelical christianity, the people who say shit like muh crusades, is extremely pro israel btw
Half judaized
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>>532556075
I will tell my german children about the hubris of the mutts, yes
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>>532556188
I'm not religious. I see religion as a tool to be used for conquest.
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>>532556301
Well afganistan is still muslim, once again you lost. Just accept this simple truth, its embarrasing how you try to cope
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>>532543462
>Screaming third worlder noises
Yeah yeah we get it paco
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>>532543462
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Now seriously why are americans so bad at war?
>WW1
>got in when everybody was exhausted, did nothing
>WW2
>USSR did all the fighting, had to drop nukes on civilians to prevent them from taking over Japan too
>Korea
>stalemate
>Vietnam
>humilliating defeat
>Iraq
>humilliating defeat
>Afghanistan
>humilliating defeat
>Iran
>looks like an humilliating defeat to me
Why are they so bad at this?
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>>532555632
You are a loyalist to the Israeli occupied federal government
You will never be a patriot
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>>532556522
Niggers tend to be bad at war
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>>532543462
I have to pinch myself whenever I look up the Vietnam or Afghanistan war. America legit lost to dirty peasants...TWICE.

Lol.
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>>532556378
Lol muslims are retarded so if they're still muslim it means they lost.

You see how Iran was flourishing before the Islamic revolution?
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>>532556834
Irans upper class was doing well because they took US cash. The people werent doing well, thus they rebelled. You are a brainwashed mutt
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>>532556953
No the people were doing great.

The men there have insecurities about adopting western values (and having their women act like westerners) so they rebelled.

It's just unchecked and low-brow testosterone.
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>>532556522
War is an economic transaction, the side that loses the most money usually is the side to lose. Since WWII the life of any American soldier has become so financially valuable that basically any engagement that directly threatens American lives (conservatively valued around ~2 million dollars by actuaries, in my opinion closer to 10-15 mil per person in lost economic value of training, future earnings, and family/friend economic shocks from their loss) can basically not be won. This is to say nothing of our military arms and munitions which are regularly lost even to rudimentary armed opponents and because of pentagon bloat create conditions where we produce like, 3 missiles a year at an individual unit cost of 80 million dollars.

Even in Iraq which we technically won in the first like 2 months of ground invasion we lost so many of our fucking 10 million dollar tuna can humvees to IEDs made with 3 dollar worth of scrap cellphone parts and gasoline that we ended up in a wash.



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