>completely shields you from oil price shockProblem?
stroads are bad
>incoming angry truckxican babble
Riding a bike in Brampton is a DEATH SENTENCE
No air conditioning
What do you do when you live 10 miles down a dirt road?
>>532565800I'm not poor
>>532565951Get one with fat tires.
>>532565800>>completely shields you from oil price shockIf only all goods were shipped via e-bike
>>532566320It just take more bikes
>>532565800It definitely would be nice. Then get a solar generator to charge it. By the way, how long do they take to charge? I have a 24 mile round trip for work.
>get associated with douchebag leotard wearers no matter what you do, even if you follow traffic rules and get out the way for cars>a sleep deprived whore or an anti white shit skin can make a simple mistake while driving (or do it on purpose if there’s no cameras) and fucking permanently maim or crush you to death and get zero time for it because it’s le accidentt. used to be a broke ass college student
>>532565951i ride mine about 6 miles of dirt roads no problem. just a little bit more bumpy>>532566207no, that fat tire ones suck and use more battery.
>>532565800>electric bike>not electric skateboardenjoy getting no bitches
>>532565800Gay, get a bonnell.
>>532566503they take 6-8hrs to charge but they make different amp chargers that charge different speeds. i ride mine 18 miles round trip to the liquor store all the time and can make that trip in 45 mins. buy a kit and make your own, the front tire kits are super easy
>>532566503Depends on the model but usually around 2hr to 50%, 6hr to 100%. Most bikes have swappable batteries, so you could buy another and keep it charged at home.
>>532565800a lot of accidents and deaths
>>532566807have you tried to ride yours on the ice and snow?
>>532565800>completely exposes you to motor vehicle shock(You)
>>532565800>oil is used for cars onlyyou're an unfathomably stupid person.
>>532565800> runs you overNothing personnel kid
>>532566573For your specific situation, a street-legal dirt bike might be more practical choice. You would still need gasoline, but a lot less than if you were driving around in a truck all the time.
I take it you'll be recharging the battery with a hand-crank.
>>532565800>oil is only fuelThat’s either a boomer take or Gen Z retardation.
>>532567437Gasoline comes from oil
>>532567225>For your specific situation, a street-legal dirt bike might be more practical choicei got so many dui's i cant drive ever again.
>>532566677>minor pothole left behind from some jeet driving a 50k ton truck on a residential road sends you flying headfirst into a brick mailbox
>>532567084A BASED FROGTHOUGHT THEY GOT ALL YOU GUYS IN WW1
>>532565800Bicycle = propelled by legsMotorbike = propelled by motorE-bike = propelled by faggotry
>>532565800Do you grow your own food?
>>532565800What happens when it rains?
>>532567994Wear a jacket? Did everyone die in ancient times when it rained?
>>532565800>>532566207>>532565951>>532567225i want an ebike bros
/pol/ hates anything that doesn't make you trackable by automated cameras.They will literally PAY HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS to have this happen to them.
>>532568310>i want an ebike
>>532565800>be e-biker>go out to for work in trusty e-bike>wild nigger appears out of nowhere>lunges huge ass stick at me>scrape my face across the pavement like a retard>nigger doesn't hesitate to load up e-bike into a pick-up truck to be later sold in the flea market for profit>nigger leaves, not before curb-stomping my face onto the concrete for good measure>>532568444shallom gerblat
>>532568621Why can't you defend yourself? Are you even a man? >shallom gerblatYeah you would say that wouldn't you, kike?
Kinda expensive unless you get a chink bike. I mean I could buy a used econo cuck car for that.
>>532565800ebikes are all well and good, but I don't live in the city. My motorcycle gets like 65mpg and only needs regular, which is more than good enough for me to ignore the price of gas.
>>532568725how much did (((they))) paid you to type like that?
>>532568790They’re coming down$2500 gets you a great one$1000 for something acceptable
>>532566207Alright, recommend a good one, I have one of these goofy ones because I liked that it folded up, and when you have some luggage on it you can definately feel it start to struggle a bit as expected.I want more power, I like using it to the point where I stopped driving to work and Im not touching chinese shit even though its cheaper, I dont trust it at all.
>>532565800And how do i transport things like lumber and tools to my work site?
>>532565800 Buy a moped eurofag
>>532565800i like to take a viagara so i can whip out my 7 inch schlong and do humpin motions at the hockey moms on my bike sometimes they will lick their lips and pop-a-titty other times i go to jail and the jail women get hornier every timeeither way I win
>>532565951Drink 40s while you ride
>>532565800>power plant runs on natural gasdooh
>>532569236the trick here is to make sure youre at a stop light so they have to watch you cum on their windowthey love it(these comments are entertainment purposes only and not meant to be taken serious)
>>532565800I'm 50% muscle and 50% anger so I just travel everywhere on a regular bicycle.
>>532569100muscle
>>532569358same for me except I still do the viagara 3 hour boner dick intersection trick either waylast time i got arrested she said CAUGHT RED PENISEDwe had a good laugh funny thing is she works at the same church i goto and sings in the choir. she does a wink at me after service
I'm tired of faggots on these things
>pay to register your vehicle with the government>pay to get a license which is used to identify you when the government demands it>government makes a crime not to carry that identification if you choose to travel>you cannot realistically travel without this>where-ever you go you are tracked by cameras and GPS Why are you okay with this system? It's more socialist than ANY other form of transit.
>>532569479>I literally can't do basic math1000 board-feet of lumber weighs around 5,000lbsthe maximum physical limit for towing on a e-bike, under perfect conditions, and a healthy male, is a thousand pounds on a straight empty road. So in perfect conditions, your perfect rider would need to make 5 perfect trips, or you'd need 5 riders. The actual real numbers are more around 500 lbs towing for an ebike, which means you'd need 10 trips, or 10 riders, and that's assuming everything works, nothing breaks down, and the roads aren't difficult. This isn't even comparing against semi truck loads, which easily are a 10x more than this, this is just replacing 1 basic work truck. TLDR: everything would cost you 10x as much, at the bare minimum, in ideal conditions.if you really believe in this idea, you volunteer to haul the lumber on the ebike yourself for free, we'll see how long you can last before you give up and admit that oil matters. My money's on 1 trip before you give up from exhaustion.
>>532566974Bicycles are by all rules and definitions unequipped to be on the road.All the things that would get your vehicle removed:No driver's licenseNo rear view mirrorNo brake lights to speak of, blinkers or headlightsNo license plateWouldn't pass any vehicle certification (crash test, safety equipment, engine specs)Cyclists are man children that real adults have decided to tolerate.Countries adding "bike lanes" in their infrastructure to mix bicycles and cars, is the same woke lunacy that got them immigrants to replace the local population. No self awareness, no survival instincts, no common sense... most likely women-driven policies.
>>532566557>a sleep deprived whore or an anti white shit skin can make a simple mistake while driving (or do it on purpose if there’s no cameras) and fucking permanently maim or crush you to death and get zero time for it because it’s le accidentHow is that different from driving a car?
>>532565945>>532565945Those fucking french canadian benchode motherfuckers are do the problem of the driving in Brampton.
>>532570792>No rear view mirror>No brake lights to speak of, blinkers or headlights>No license plate>Wouldn't pass any vehicle certification>No driver's licenseAlso no insurance, and cannot reach the roads mins or max speeds safely.Good post, saved.
>>532570792>I heckin' LOVE when the government takes away my PRIVILEGE to travel
>>532571221So don't use the government made roads baka, get a horse and travel off road
>>532571150You let jews take this away from you.And you defend it.
>>532571314I dont live in the Goyimutted States of Niggermerica, try again lad.
>>532571303I live in a place where I don't need a car. I can walk wherever I want, and if I need to go long distance I can take a train where I show a pattern on my phone. No identification needed. You're a cuckold who defends paying to have your right to travel taken away. >>532571391You think Canada didn't have trains? Why do you think your rural towns exist? Pic related is from Port Moody in the 1890s.
>>532571303is this ai?
>>532565800brb gonna commute for an hour and a half at 20mph on side streets in 100 degree heat
>>532570196Uhhh Mr shekelberg at thr auto dealer said I'm manly if I buy his 1pmpg truck
>>532571527Equating freedom with state built train systems is genuinely retarded.>I can take a train where I show a pattern on my phone. >You're a cuckold who defends paying to have your right to travel taken away. Ironic level of projection from (You).
>>532572377>state built train systemsThey're privately owned and operated, retard. Unlike your socialist road system, which can't even fund itself even with taxes. >Ironic level of projection from (You).You pay to register your vehicle, you can't even sell it without telling the government. You pay to get a license which you MUST carry otherwise you can't travelYou pay to get a license plate and a colored sticker each year to signify you paid your cuck tax.You must ensure your license plate is readable so some bored police officer can run your plates to see if you have a warrant.Your taxes go to cameras which track you and use AI to build a profile of your life. You're a cuck. Plain and simple.You don't have to be like this you know, you could help take back cities, but you're too scared of niggers to confront them. That's what women do.
>>532565800I ride an ebike and live car free in IndianaAMA
Your forefathers built this.
>>532572889Isn't it a death trap there? Good on you regardless. The mechanical jew needs to be stopped.
>>532572377I wish i had an OHP and all the shit to print transparencies. I'd project some kino shit on my wall.
>>532573323It is, everyone drives like its the Indy500, potholes everywhere, but I make it work.
>>532567611you know you can just go around the pothole right? you're allowed to do that
>>532565947Nah, cold is worse, specially when you're sweaty as fuck and have to go downhill
>>532573615The road system ponzi scheme isn't sustainable, don't worry it will die eventually. It already is given how shit most of the country's roads are right now, even for cars.
>>532565800eMTB is the god tier ridecccccccccccccc
>>532565800If you can e-bike the way, you can ride a normal bike too you lazy fat faggot
>>532566974Man at least it was quick.That lady walking her dog won't soon forget that. And the flattened out, splayed, posture at the end really drives home the indignity.Sad.
>>532571527Dipshit doesn't realize the "pattern on his phone" is identification. Fucks sake.
>>532565800Wheres you GAY bike spandex, Op> Insufferable Faggot
>>532565945I love all you jam boys on your death machines thinking Canada is Mumbai, in the middle of fucking February no less. Insane.
>>532573848Car sales are going down and ebike sales are skyrocketing.Even the most hardcore nimby will ride an ebike and convert.
>>532574093Everyone has the same pattern and you show it to a human conductor AFTER you get on the train. >>532574140Trump is going to raise oil prices so high that carjews will kill themselves enmasse simply by starving to death. Too fat to walk to the McDonalds that's 10 miles away.
>>532565800it's embarrassing to introduce your parents to your boyfriend
>>532574259Post a screenshot if this pattern.
>>532565951that's a feature for ebikes, not a bug
>>532565800I'm not taking a bike to work, buddy
>>532569524Lmao wtf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UpbecwRH6s
>>532575154I tried, but it just blacks the screen out. I don't know why, because the pattern changes regularly, and also pulsates. It's not like the conductor would be fooled by a static screenshot. The image I posted what it looks like, just imagine some blue shimmering rectangles on top of the bottom portion.
>>532570895A car collision is less deadly with another car. Also people are more careful bc they could die too
>>532566677Yeah nothing says "top 1%" like an electric skateboard! I mean driving a Tesla might get you some stinky used up hippy ICE gun fodder but I wasn't sure about electric skateboards until now!
>>532571391Subway in Canada is even worse moron
>>532575354If you live within biking distance, it's pretty fucking great. >>532574311People who have bikes tend to have cars anon. I have four, one of them is even a porsche. These are not for poor people.
>>532576218I absolutely do not, which is unfortunate but it is what it is
>>532566207Fat tires are a must, basically gives you the practicality of a dirt bike. Thin tires sink into sand and throw you over the bars. You also want suspension, which that one doesn't have. Front suspension definitely, rear suspension not as important and can hinder the bike's ability to dig into dirt and push it when in loose dirt.Hub drive motors are more reliable but chain drive gives you less unsprung weight. Hub motors make the wheels themselves very heavy and it feels awkward, along with making you feel way more bumps because that weight is not rested on any sort of suspension, just the tires themselves.
People who ride e-bikes are either brown thug kids who wear all black and pajama pants pretending to be a bike gang. Or effeminate fem-beard soys. Legs too wear from years of sucking cock and onions drinks to pedal 1 mile. The US is in this legal place where we are having e-bikes and scooters dumped onto us by China with no real way of enforcing them. There is a lot of deviant behavior occurring with these bikes. A lot of grown men riding on the sidewalk in downtown areas threatening to run over business customers and driving customers away. The people never asked if they wanted a bunch of e bikes and scooters dumped into their cities. The people should get a say if they even want these things in their cities.
>>532566503You ain't charging shit with solar. Maybe if you had your whole roof paneled and stored it into a battery, then charged the bike battery with that battery. But that would mean you have a house which means you don't need ti be stingey with a bike or solar charging.Ebikes take a long time to charge and don't give great range. The more power and range they have, the bigger the battery has to be and thus the more weight it has. You aren't making a 24 mile trip on an ebike. At that point just get a gas powered bike. The range and power you can get out of a gas bike requires less weight than an electric bike. Same as cars and drones, we still have battery weight limitations.
Tell me an ebike to buy I need one. An ebike mountain bike tia
>>532566207You want fat rear thin front like a dirtbike
>>532567038>less oil for transport won't mean more oil for others productsanon, please tell me you were only pretending.
>>532576357Then bikes aren't an option for you - I currently have a long commute as well. But man, when I lived close enough to ride to work, that was fantastic.
>>532566677Not using an electric freebord?Basically just leaving all the women to me I guess
>>532568488>it's the ebikes that are the problem, not the country where peoples lives like it's final destination everyday
>>532565800if I did not do doordash for my income right now I would ride a bike to and from workbut shockingly it manages to be one of the best jobs available to me at the moment, even in the midst of about $4.75 a gallon for gas.If I found a job as a server it would probably be a lot better margins but that would also require a much more fixed schedule than I currently have, and the standing or walking for my whole shift is unlikely to play nicely with the running I do in the morning. And it would also require, you know, finding the job.Got a decent market for it I guess. Take what I can get. This still somehow manages to pay better than the wagie job I had before at $16 an hour, and with significantly less stress and responsibilities, only thing that job had going for it was hours you can work, which you could have had before corporate cracked down on labor percentages and started sending the whole god damn store home early every single day, and the implied responsibility forcing you to not be lazy and actually show up for work.There's no penalty for not going and doing doordash for a day, it's just money you don't make. But you feel obligated to show up for a shift you're scheduled for, even if it's super rape on your wallet after taxes because so much of your negligible income is taxed on W2.
>>532577118There are so many choices and configurations and they're all from China so it doesn't really matter. Just get one and you can swap the motor and battery if you feel the need.Nobody knows what your needs are, like if you want a dirt bike or still having pedals, how much battery weight you're willing to lug around, etc. A gas bike is always gonna be more practical unless you're storing it inside or transporting it by car. There's expensive shit like Surron and cheaper equivalent shit like XingXongChang or whatever random chink brand you can find on scamazon. As long as the reviews don't say that the battery blows up it's fine. Also invest in a fireproof battery bag in case it does blow up.
I don't need a motor, I have my legs.
>>532565800american minds can't comprehend such a thing
>>532572889>I live car free in Indianaif you didn't ride an ebike you would have calves the size of an obese man's gut.
>>532577568Doordash and similar app scam jobs are for retards who don't realize they're burning $10/hr in gas so the $20/hr they're averaging is really $10/hr. You're a dumb goyslave working for less than minimum wage. When gas was cheap and I did it in a Prius I was burning about $6-7/hr in gas and the thing got 50mpg. Whatever you drive plus the cost of gas now, you're fucking yourself. Not even factoring in oil, tire changes, and the devaluation of your vehicle. When you go to sell the car it will be worth less than the entire net income you made. You are working for fucking free, basically only taking cash advance loans.
>>532577786I was behind one in traffic today, actually. I live in a pretty small town, too.
>>532566557>caring with whom internet retards “associate” you Pathetic female mindset
>>532576138>female sarcasmShut up faggot
>>532565800I know somebody that soldered off some component which allowed their bike to bypass the built in NA limit. They got charged with like 6 things including operating an unregistered vehicle
>>532565800How about when you're 50+ yrs old and your knees and back ache nearly everyday? How you going to haul your groceries on that anyway?
>>532567225Problem is you need the special licences AND the insurance for that. Insurance is the real killer.
>>532568621>I can't go outside without fearing roaming niggers attacking meImagine living Iike this.
>>532578135>xhir lives 25 miles from a supermarketkex
>>532565800should be banned from mountain bike trails. during covid I had time on my hands so put together some e bikes banned stickers with the official north van district logo on them and slapped them on signs around the mountains. the kids thought i was nuts but it was a lot of fun
>>532578135These things are self driven, you can get one that's pedal assisted or just throttle driven with pedals as a backup, or no pedals at all. The law says it has to be under a 750W motor though, pedals or not. Some states may require it to have pedals. Most will slap a 750W sticker on a 1500W motor and still get like 30-35mph total out of it. You really don't want to go faster on a bicycle setup, it's just not made for those speeds mechanically. The faster bikes are more like motorcycles or dirt bikes, but you might as well get a motorcycle or dirt bike at that point. The battery is so fucking heavy the bike becomes a hog and doesn't handle well.
>>532565947Don't need it
>>532567225love this bike so much. sold mine because i wanted more power. didn't know what i had until it was gone.>>532578218I have 4 motorcycles and in total they cost $298 per year. insurance is really only an issue when you buy the bike on credit.
>>532576138how often do you see people riding electric skateboards when you leave the house? almost never. i get compliments every day and i see peoples faces light up like a child when they see me zooming by going up hill and carving. lots of people ask me where i got it and what i paid for it. on an e-bike you are just another guy on an e-bike lol
>>532565800*gets hit by car and die*
>>532565800>problem?Yeah, I have a real job that I have to travel for, im not a fucking transqueerdemifolx part time barista part time book seller full time faggot that lives 6 blocks away from work like you, ya cunt.
>>532578488Gas assisted bicycles also exist, this is a popular one. Very loud and stinky though. Vibrations will probably kill your sperm over time and definitely need ear protection unless you fabricate a good muffler. People put huge motors on these and make them go 80+mph which is extremely dangerous. The max legal engine size before it has to be registered is typically 49cc but may vary based on state. They really have no way of checking without filling your engine so as long as it's not obviously huge you can say it's 49cc.
>>532578135Im 52 and live in hilly north van, I bike almost every day (and still mountain bike)Groceries go in panniers and a back packnot an ebiker btw, just like being fit and active
>>532565951If there's a big oil shock, you live 10 miles down a dirt road and you rely on commuting to make your life work, you're coming to the city.>I will NEVER go live with the BUGS in the SHITY!Yes you will, because bugs get to make wages and eat. People who live 10 miles down a dirt road but who rely on leaving that home regularly to live won't. No amount of ARs will change that.It should be remembered that for most modern Americans, your infrastructure is based around a fundamental assumption of cheap cars and cheap gas, mainly cheap gas. Lose the cheap gas and the logistics of your life no longer make sense. It's not a moral question, it's not a national character question, it's not a car chad vs bike cuck question, it's not an urban vs rural question, it's a logistics question. If your life requires being able to drive for a half hour or more in a gas-powered car to make ends meet, ends will cease meeting when gasoline hits a certain $ per gallon.If you're on a homestead and only have to leave once a month or so, you'll probably survive. But most people aren't.It's not your fault. This is another boomer legacy decision. America in the mid 20th century just assumed that oil would be cheap forever and built an entire country around that assumption. And you can't easily step down from car-dependent infrastructure to something else.
I'd love an ebike but a lot of states and municipalities are trying to ban them/have you loicensed for it. Feel like I missed the wild west bandwagon with em
>>532577960Believe me, I did the math myself.If I work to the tune of $100 in profit per day, that's after costs in gas, for one I finish that in about 7 or 8 hours on a bad day. 6 on a good one. 5 on a great one.Oil is once every two or three months if I'm hustling, three or four if I'm taking it easy. Hundred bucks a pop. Negligible. Tires are more expensive, maybe $800 a full set, but not as frequent as oil. Overall more or less negligible. Cost of owning a car, sucks to suck. We'll add that into lump sum extra costs for goal numbers at the end of the month and call it a day.Extra miles and wear on the car is also irrelevant, the car will be driven into the dirt anyway and can more than easily make it there if necessary. No payments either.Interestingly enough, my wagie job (Again, $16 an hour, quite high for my market), after tax, also happens to pay around $100 per shift, which makes the easy math easier, but if you really just want to compare paychecks, what I found was if I am working the same amount of days exactly, doordash to $100 profit, six days a week, will always pay more than working as a wagie, as long as I have under 45 hours on my timecard at the end of the week. I was scheduled for about 56. Corporate has a lot of hours to cut. Nothing I can do about it.By the time I left, closer to 42 hours a week was more normal.Here's the kicker though: the wagie job is night shift only, generally requires me to do the job of three or more people, standing for the entire shift, and is busy enough that I have to always be doing something for around 90% of my shift, much more because of labor cuts. Also, no music.By comparison, with doordash, I can work or not work whenever I want, spend 90% of the time in my car, spend generally no more than two minutes ever waiting on food after some heavy updates to the system (I miss book time), I work it exclusively in the mornings after my run, and I get standard mileage deduction and tips deduction on my taxes.
>>532578135You take the car to the grocery store, dummy, same as when the weather is shit. >>532578619Ebikes are a lot more practical if you need to go more than a few miles. Electric skateboards do seem pretty fun though. Caring about what other people think is for children.
>>532565800is that you neo?
>>532577966It's an actual problem because many Americans are convinced that cyclists are a valid outgroup that they will not be shamed for killing.
>>532579179I've been pondering that it's more sustainable in SHTF to have an EV and solar charge it. It may take days to charge but you don't have to drive somewhere every day. So just leave it charging until you need it, maybe for a trip for supplies once a week. Electricity isn't going anywhere, nor are the means of generating it. Gasoline goes bad in a couple months, diesel doesn't go bad but it will dry up quick. You also can't just make a diesel vehicle run on any combustible, it requires a whole tedious conversion process and testing for each fuel type.Am ebike or EV is honestly not bad, but the battery will wear out eventually. Should probably look into breeding horses or pedaling a bike.
>>532579579Literally what Thomas Massie does. He owns a Tesla and charges it off-grid so he's not dependent on gas stations. And yes, over a long enough timeline of no grid support, you are eventually going to not have electricity at all. But that seems unlikely to me.
>>532579346I won't even get out of bed for less than $300 a shift. $100 for 7-8 hours of work is below poverty wage anon. You have to hold yourself to a higher standard. Start applying to jobs that pay more for your time and labor. $100 is way too much for an oil change and $800 way too much fir tires, I do my own oil change and pay $30 tops with a filter, cheap $50 tires for $200 total and they've (almost) never let me down. They're under warranty if they blow early which 2/12 of them have (use Discount Tire or Americas Tire they have excellent warranties).I did the app scams during the holocough so they were averaging $50/hr. I would take home at least $300-500 a day for easy work, though I often had to go into the ghetto and deal with niggardry so it got too unsafe. They were at least paying me though. By the time I went to sell my car it was worth $16k less than what it would be with a normal amount of miles on it. You're doing miles for much less than I was, if you aren't making that much again it's certainly a cost to factor in. Don't let the easy work fool you, i stuck to that job way too long and now it pays well below minimum wage. I had my career on pause for 3 years because it was so easy to make my own schedule and just drive around, and almost couldn't make it back into my career field because of too much time being independent which they don't like.
>>532565800>OOOOOOIINK M8 U GOT A LOICENSE TO RIDE THAT HER-BANG BANG BANG BANG
>>532570196Does anyone know how to drive in one of these loop-de-loop intersection things?? The big circle road thing. How does it even work?!
>>532565800Fell for that scam already, every eBike I've had has been broken down or stolen, they do not last long at all and there range is always 1/5th of what they say. Says 80 km/h max? You're going 12-20km max, 20km only if you're in the lowest power mode and pedal hard. Says it can go 300 km range? Then you'll get 80 km max.The only good thing is they've seriously dropped in price when I recently checked. Bikes that cost 2k CAD before now cost 300 to 600 CAD. Bikes that cost 5k CAD before now cost 1,200CAD to 2000CAD.I ended up losing a 5k ebike simply because there's only one business in all of Waterloo Ontario that repairs eBikes and they refused to repair any bikes not specifically brought from their shop because they were overwhelmed with people bringing in bikes for repairs. Sad thing is it came to me broken from Rize and I couldn't do shit with it because lockdowns.I had some other eBikes that were really good and lasted a long time and I repaired them many times over but eventually I couldn't keep repairing them and one of them I sold it to a homeless Jamaican for $200.Every time the tires pop you're out like a hundred dollars maybe two hundred. The chains on these eBikes also wear down so fast and have to be replaced.Mid-drives like in your pic have stupid specialty parts you can't find in any of the stores like cranks that only work on that, so you're fucked if you need repair....and thieves target these so much. Every one of my eBikes has been stolen at least once, sometimes twice. I find them again by going to the soup kitchens and crackhouses and paying methheads to help me fight them to get them back.Fuck eBikes. I now have a very lightweight trek bike I use for long-distance (century rides / 160 kms) and I use a shitty mountain bike on my cart to get water for my garden and I have a heavily modified Opus Mode that I put single gear on and simplified so less chances of problems with needing to repair it and it is my commuting bike.
>>532577465based
>>532566974>>532570792Good thing riding on sidewalks is an option in most cites.
>>532565800Then you're just some faggot on a bike that everyone hates. You doing to take your date to dinner on the back of a bike? Or your Costco haul home on a bike? You're just a sweaty loser who stinks and blocks traffic.
I will get back into eBikes when Hydro Quebec's production of John Goodenough's glass batteries really gets underway and we start phasing out lithium-ion battery (originally also invented by John Goodenough) for the glass batteries. eBike lithium ion batteries are good for about 800 charge cycles then they're dead, so if you use them a ton like I used to, within 2-3 years the batteries are dead from being recharged every night. Glass batteries have far more charge cycles, are much faster to recharge (no sitting in Tim Hortons for 4 hours waiting for half your battery to be recharged, you could instead be recharged in minutes), and have far more capacity so can go way longer distances, while also being less dangerous in terms of explosions and being immolated in fire, cheaper, made from common materials not lithium ion from South Africa or China, etc. Glass battery tech will revolutionize off-grid and everything else and Quebec is going to be a very rich province soon while Alberta will be crying about it.
>>532570792Cars are gay if you aren't a mennonite and riding your horse and buggy you're not a man and have no room to be talking shit.
>>532565947>No air conditioningE-bikes are kind of like motorcycles. You don't really need air conditioning unless temps are over 100. But it depends on the top speed of the ebike and whether you need to pedal.>>532565951>What do you do when you live 10 miles down a dirt road?Dirt roads are basically the same as concrete as long as the ground is hard. If gravel "shifts" when you ride over it, it'll cause a lot of drag. Soft ground slows you down a lot.>>532566557I largely avoid riding anywhere near cars by taking side streets and using sidewalks, while also assuming every car is trying to hit me and acting accordingly. I almost never go to highly urban areas though, or really anywhere with an actual bike lane.>>532566503>how long do they take to charge? I have a 24 mile round trip for work.Depends on the bike, battery, and charger. Mine is around 4 hours to full charge. But bikes with larger batteries can be 8 hours or more. E-bike batteries range from 250 watt hours to about 4k watts hours. A typical solar panel only gets its rated wattage for the equivalent of about 5 hours a day in clear weather. You'd need a pretty big solar panel to charge your battery. Definitely not something you would just take with you.>>532566760>i ride mine 18 miles round trip to the liquor store all the time and can make that trip in 45 minsThat's an average speed of 24 mph. Which means something with a top-end of probably closer to 30 mph. Is that a 1,000 watt kit? They have some now that are like 3k watts or more. I saw the reviews for one on Amazon that basically said you have to lean forward on takeoff or the front end will come up.>>532566974I'd never ride like that though. Those are the type of bicyclists just asking to get hit.>>532567225I had a DR200SE but it got stolen. It got like 80 mph but only did about 65 mph. That one is much faster and about the same mpg. I could theoretically get on the highway with mine but it was too dangerous.
>>532568891Kek I ride a Ducati gets gets 33 mpg and I still don't give a shit because I'm having way more fun than most people ever will on the road
>>532566814I've done 3k miles since I got an ebike last year. I mostly rode in the street but take lots of shortcuts and avoid heavy traffic. The bike mirror is the key component missing.
>>532567225My 02 klx 300 has been broken down since it got submerged and stuck in mud in 2016. Needs a card clean and rebuild I'm too lazy but will use ai for it. My ebike is just as fun.
>>532580594>WaterlooAre you that guy with a goatee and helmet-mounted GoPro?
>>532565800Your weight.
>>532579179oil would be cheap if not for israel>>532579579Engineer here, You dont need to be totally off grid. A rooftop solar+battery setup only needs to run on batteries during peak demand hours which will slash your electric bill and protect you from blackouts. And yes, an EV with solar would be the ideal shtf/oil crisis vehicle. The panels and batteries will outlast whatever the problem is.
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>>532581367No but I know him and talk with him any time I see him on the trail. Whole winter I've been fucked because since January my ODSP got cancelled and I've been sicker than ever and I'm waiting on surgery in May so I have been just living at the mercy of some people who make my life hell but at least give me food so I haven't really been outside much, I'm so fucking sick of my situation though, maybe tomorrow if I am actually awake during the day I'll go to Emmanuel, some people started messaging me wondering if I'm dead.
>>532580113>300 dimmadollars per shift>apply to jobs that pay more for your time and laborYeah sorry, if I see a listing for more than $25, hell even $20 an hour it's either a scam or it's a scam brought to you by the military. You don't get jobs that pay well unless you know a guy and the guy doesn't want to be known. At least not in my locale.I spend a reasonable penny on decent tires and decent oil because by not cheaping out and getting something decent, it feels better. Same reason I get 93 octane ethanol free. For one, because it's literally the same price as regular 93 at my gas station right now lmao, but also it has a noticeable improvement over using midgrade. I'm tuned for 91 and minimum is 89, but they don't sell 91 here and premium isn't that much more per gallon than midgrade for a noticeable improvement anyway, so what the hell.I don't need a whole lot of money to be happy. I could work an average job for subpar pay anywhere on earth and I would have pretty much identical happiness levels. Making more money wouldn't make me more happy, and as long as I make enough to not go hungry and keep the lights on, making less money wouldn't even really make me less happy. The only thing making more money does actually do is grow my savings. Which don't really get spent on much.My dream job is working as a paralegal for about $45k to $50k a year and doing it until I'm eighty years old or fucking dying. I have no great ambitions. I don't want or deserve better. I live in a 500 square foot studio apartment and every day that I think about that I wish it were smaller.Gig jobs give me freedom to work through until I get paralegal certified and until I turn that certification into a job.
>>532565800>what is used to produce electricity in most placesRetard
>>532581595That's just sad. I charge $220AU/hr for my time and I bill about 25hrs a week consistently, spend the rest doing what ever I want
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>>532567225Just don't buy the 650, it's so heavy that it's a shitty slow street bike and too big and heavy to be a dirt bike, I had a scooter that did better off road then that thing.
>>532582110You're what? 35-40? Are you telling me you don't know a single person who knows your craft well enough to be able to justify a decent rate?
Them things sure do go real quick
Dunno if children should be zipping at 30 mph with their best friend after school
>>532581562Hope things work out for you.
>>532565800>speeds down any street disregarding any traffic rules. >suprised by gruesome mangled death
>>532570792correct, these fucking faggots deserve it every time they get hit like the bitches they arein what world does it make sense to bike along like a cuck going 15 mph on a busy, main road where the speed limit is at least 45? cunts are asking for it at that point
>>53258232127.I've spent my entire life around people who are about to be poorfags (In high school and college) or poorfags (wagies).Even ignoring knowing your craft, I hardly know anyone period. I got locked inside an apartment for all the years I was supposed to be doing internships and stuck in general education courses for all the time I was supposed to be getting to know other people in my field that I wasn't locked in the apartment. Doesn't mean a whole lot to me. Give me about 24k a year and I'm pretty much good to go, and that's after getting strung by the dick on my rent.
>>5325665031 solar panel could easily charge an ebike the battery in my mountain bike frame would take 2-3 hours from a solar panelthe battery in my surron would take 6 hours or a whole sunny day on a 300 watt panel you probably need some type of inverter and battery backup to keep a reserve so you can charge at night making this idea kind of pricey, but you'd have energy independence for years if shit hits the fan
>>532571150nice, hope that stupid asshole in blue can never ride a bike again
>>532568310I ordered a foldable ebike last year from China(Aliexpress) on black friday for $150. It goes about 21 mph with about 20 miles of range. You can fold it up and put it in pretty much any car. It weighs about 50 pounds though. So not something anyone could pick up and move.I take my niece riding on it quite a bit. It's got a little back seat and foot pegs.>>532569055You could mod that bike to make it go like 50 mph, rofl.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHTlN0sx8R4>>532573794>cold is worseCold is the main problem, and especially snow, and rain, and high winds.>>532576842I just hate riding up hills and in the wind unless I'm on an ebike. My first ebike was really just a regular bike that offered pedal assist, but it wasn't a direct-drive motor and I had the top speed of assist set to 15 mph, so I would often go several miles without the motor assisting me at all. It was really only there for when I needed it.The bike I'm riding now though is direct-drive. It's much quieter, and much faster, but I basically never pedal it. And since it is direct-drive, the motor drags when its not active. Its really just a small electric motorcycle. Not a bicycle.>>532577568I know there were people doing door dash with an ebike, but you'd have to live in a fairly dense urban area with good weather. There's a lot of guys on youtube that record their ebike door dashing. I like to watch them in 2x speed.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho9c0JEQo_g>>532581595>I spend a reasonable penny on decent tires and decent oil because by not cheaping out and getting something decent, it feels better. Same reason I get 93 octane ethanol free.You're retarded. Just do the oil change yourself. Takes like 5 minutes and it's literally only oil and oil filter. Look for sales on slickdeals for good oil. A small car is probably only using a little over 3 quarts of oil and most oil is sold in 5 quart containers. 93 octane is a waste if your vehicle isn't designed for it.
>>532565800>a bus drives by and you get sucked under the wheel then your head explodes>battery explodes
>>532565800I have a wife and 4 kids, retard. Not all of us are unfuckable losers like you.
>>532565800you retarded
>>532571391look at all those canadians
I'm literally driving on an Ebike and shit posting now.
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>>532583206Stop that
>>532583408I'm on the side walk reeeeeee
>>532583425An ebike and an ephone. Youre an American hero.
>>532582877Yeah fair. That's rough.Build a base of reliable customers, prove your worth then bump your rate. Let other people be cheap so you can earn more in fewer hours and have more time for yourself.Remember, the military doesn't buy the most advanced or the most expensive equipment, the military buys what is reliable and will do the job 100% of the time without fail. Reliable is worth more than the education that you would have picked up if COVID didn't fuck you. Reliable and good enough is always better
Anons that missed out on bitcoin and getting rich btw, seriously look into Hydro Quebec, look into John Goodenough, and get invested. I'm fucking broke as hell so don't even have any money to invest but if you can put in money like maybe a thousand dollars (I don't even have 100) you'll be thanking me later. I also was broke during bitcoin shit and couldn't get into that, but it got big. Just make sure to pull out if for any reason the technology turns out to be flawed and unfeasible, like what happened with bitcoin where it ended up just being a scam, but I don't foresee that happening with glass battery technology. All the research and development has proven it works, they just wanted to keep perfecting it 10 years before even bringing it to mass production and the markets, but now they finally consider it ready. Stocks in Hydro Quebec should grow massively then you just have to worry about maybe competitors or maybe stagnation but I don't see a big drop happening. It's a bit of a long-term investment but in a few years you should be getting rich if you get in now.
>>532583483That I am. Real shit I can get about 20 miles on my Ebike before it needs a charge. It actually rules.
god i crave good bike infrastructure, if i could ride my bike to work i think i'd be a happier person
>>532565800Then go buy one tf do I care? Oh that's right, you need to shill the climate change bullshit.
Btw guys when shopping for eBikes be careful about the battery design, some eBikes the battery just rips right off the frame due to vibrations, and that's why you see a lot of people who have electrical tape or duck tape holding there battery in place.If I was going to buy an eBike right now and had the money I'd get this: https://www.amazon.ca/eAhora-Juliet-Electric-Bicycle-Suspension/dp/B0FB8ZLRVG
>>532583728America has money to build empty office buildings for H1B pajeets to not even work in but it won't dare add bike lanes to the sides of roads, that money is needed so Israel's roads can all have bike lanes.
>>532581595I agree with your general take though. Working when you want, not having to work around other people, no one looking over your shoulder, riding in your car listening to music and playing on your phone, and still making well over minimum-wage(most of the time), is much preferable to jobs that pay better but are miserable as fuck.>>532580594>Fell for that scam already, every eBike I've had has been broken down or stolen, they do not last long at all and there range is always 1/5th of what they say. Says 80 km/h max? You're going 12-20km max, 20km only if you're in the lowest power mode and pedal hard.Just find out what kind of battery and motor it has and do the math yourself. Or just read reviews or look for a reputable vendor. Stop being a whiney bitch.There are really only like four extra components to an ebike. The motor, the battery, the controller, and the display/computer. You can buy a replacement for everything. The real issue is that they're constantly changing the types of plugs they use. You either have to find a replacement with all the right plugs, or you have to wire new plugs yourself.My main beef with ebikes is that you're going to get shitloads of flat tires, more than a regular bike because you're going further. And ebikes chew up brakes because they're heavy and they go fast. You also burn through tires like crazy because bicycle tires are thin as fuck and wear out after like 1k miles(rear tire wears much faster).Which is why a lot of people get a fat tire bike then put motorcycle tires on them. You almost never get flats, and tire lasts much longer, but they're heavy as fuck, and you lose top speed and acceleration.
>>532584178its crazy to me that more people don't see the absolute psyop that car culture is. like what the fuck do you mean i have to be trapped in a metal cube to get anywhere, what do you mean its been made so its basically impossible to walk or bike anywhere on my own, what do you mean my kids won't have space outside to play bc cars need the space. and then finally when people ask for it, we're too busy giving money so that israel (and every other rich country) can have all of these things
>>532568444You are a retard, flock uses facial recognition also
>>532584224>Just find out what kind of battery and motor it has and do the math yourself. Or just read reviews or look for a reputable vendor. Stop being a whiney bitch.No fuck you. I am talking from experience and having owned about 10 eBikes in my life. I know exactly how far the eBikes actually go and I'm telling anons they lie all the time about the range, that it's always 5x too high. You need about 60ah 48v at a minimum just to go 80-100 km distance, but they'll advertise that as 300 km range.>There are really only like four extra components to an ebike. The motor, the battery, the controller, and the display/computer.This is not true. eBikes have specific wheels and more important they have specific cranks if they are a mid-drive. You just lying and I wonder why.>You can buy a replacement for everything.I couldn't in 2019 for my mid-drive rize eBike. It was completely unobtainable online and in every single bike store in my area. Ultimately gave up on the bike when it got stolen while sitting in a repair shop. Since then I've seen it being driven around by methheads who did some serious engineering making their own custom parts to get it to work and haven't bothered to take it back because the one guy had a gun and a pitbull. The new guy I last saw on it drove away too fast. I really fucking hated that bike and don't really care that much to get it back compared to my other bikes.>The real issue is that they're constantly changing the types of plugs they use. You either have to find a replacement with all the right plugs, or you have to wire new plugs yourself.I've seen people just remove the lock mechanism entirely and rewire it themselves for the plugs.>Which is why a lot of people get a fat tire bike then put motorcycle tires on them. You almost never get flats, and tire lasts much longer, but they're heavy as fuck, and you lose top speed and acceleration.Yeah and then you're getting even worse range. Fuck eBikes for now.
>>532577040You severely overestimate the battery capacity of an ebike or underestimate the capacity of a rooftop solar panel system. A typical ebike battery holds about 300-1500 Wh... a single panel can easily output that much in a day, let alone an entire rooftop covered in them
>>532565800>Problem?niggers, where do you park that shit? would be stolen in a day here and cant park it in the street
>>532584579Facial recognition is less reliable than reading digits on a car and cross referencing that with the make and model. And you are still paying for the multiple fees, licenses, and permits you need to even drive a car, all so you can be tracked.
>>532584418I've never owned a car in my life. It's fucking crazy expensive, even if I get it for free, you have to pay all these fees related to it that aren't even about repairs or fuel or cleaning it. It's such a money drain. I don't see why also everyone needs a car. Everything you can buy as far as big appliances, furniture, etc. you can get delivered direct to your house and those companies are usually doing it by default without extra charges. I think the only people that actually need a vehicle are the people who drive trucks, landscapers and those people driving the really big trucks on the highways that move stuff for businesses. Most people's jobs should never require them to own a car. Every office worker doesn't need a car, everyone working in retail doesn't need a car, everyone working at a factory / assembly line doesn't need a car. Maybe a safari worker, a parks ranger, a guy whose job it is to drive a truck, a landscaper, a construction guy, a trades person, those guys typically actually need a vehicle. All the people who just transport themselves to the workplace and not a ton of heavy and big tools or a lot of goods shouldn't have cars.
>>532584892it def depends on where you live, i remember one point as a teenager i lived in this pretty walkable neighborhood that had a train station and everything. it was really perfect, i commuted to school on the bus and took the train to see friends. but now i live somewhere where i need a car to get fucking anywhere and its miserable. but all thats to say i agree with the sentiment, in a society that hasn't cucked itself with shit infrastructure that is exactly how it should be. but hey now we're fighting a war over oil again that itself will cost us more money than it would take to meaningfully fix that dependency!
Today I remind them that a literal nigger tony-starked one of these into the world with nothing but some grit and dindu.https://youtu.be/9E0QC4jbKDEIt's cheap and does highway speeds.What's your excuse Anon?
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>>532584673>I know exactly how far the eBikes actually go and I'm telling anons they lie all the time about the rangeAnyone who doesn't realize this deserves to be scammed. It's the same thing with 18650 batteries that claim like 5x their actual capacity(usually 2-4x the capacity of top-of-the-line Samsungs).>You need about 60ah 48v at a minimum just to go 80-100 km distance, but they'll advertise that as 300 km range.It's not that they're lying. They are just projecting the range on the lowest speed setting either completely empty or with as skinny Asian on it. For every doubling of speed there is a quadrupling of air resistance. Basically, you'll get twice the range at half the speed. But no one is going to ride a bike on the lowest speed setting if they plan to go 100+ miles.>eBikes have specific wheels and more important they have specific cranks if they are a mid-driveEbikes are either a hub motor or a mid-drive. The hub motor usually comes as a kit with the rim and tire and goes on just like a regular tire. You just have to run the wire to the controller.>I couldn't in 2019 for my mid-drive rize eBike.Well, prior to about 2020, there was almost no standardization for ebikes. Most were either custom jobs by individuals, or proprietary and expensive as shit. Now, most ebikes use largely interchangeable parts made in bulk in China.>Fuck eBikes for now.The nice thing about ebikes is that you don't have to tag or insure them, they can get you around town, and you can order one from China starting at like $150. But they are impractical if you need to go further than like 10 miles from your house, and if you don't have friends/family who can come pick you up in a car if you get stranded. Basically, they're extremely cheap transportation with almost no overhead costs. But you need to be able to work on them yourself for them to be practical. Basically, you need to be able to change your own flats, and do other basic maintenance.
>>532583027Best goy award
>>532584727In the office you work at because otherwise your point is omnipresent. Alternatively, one could park the bike outside after removing the seat to take indoors.
>>532584673>>532585627The main problem I have with getting an ebike, or even a motorcycle, is that in most cases, you still need a car, so you're not saving the $50-$200 a month in insurance, and $10-$20 a month in tag, and the car's depreciation, because you still have the car. And the cost savings from riding the ebike/motorcycle when you already have a car are rarely worth the lack of practicality or comfort.The people riding ebikes are either children who don't need a car or can't afford one, or the types of people who like riding motorcycles but want one that isn't loud and obnoxious, and people who like to be able to go off-road/mountain-biking but don't have the stamina to pedal up hills.
>>532586265Motorcycles and bicycles are fucking fun, anon. It's definitely true that you're not going to save money, but shit is fun - and riding bicycles is good for your health, too. 100% don't be a dumb hippie and only have a bike.
>>532586265That's simply not true unless you're a tradesman desu. What do you need a car fore except to move your fat ass and your handbag every now and then?Groceries? You can get that delivered or you can fit it in a backpack/saddle bags etc. you can absolutely live without a car you just don't want to because you're addicted to what ever luxuries you can get
>>532565800Cageys will get ragey.
>>532586524I need a car to take my mountain bike to the trailhead, my surfboard to the beach, my ass to the mountains in the winter, etc.
>>532586758Well in that case you might have a genuine need. Every time you go to those places ists mostly just you and yours there. You know most of these city dwellers don't need both
>>532584727OP's bike looks expensive as fuck. Probably $5k+. I wouldn't park that shit anywhere except my own house.>>532586454>Motorcycles and bicycles are fucking funIf you're riding them for fun, and they're the type that are fun, then they are fun. If you're not riding them for fun, and they're not the type that are fun, they aren't fun.>>532586524You need a car to move around children, or to travel any real distance(more than maybe miles from your house).My main problem I have with my ebike is that I have constant anxiety about getting a flat tire. I've had like a dozen flats on my ebikes over the years. As long as I'm only a few miles away from home, I'll just push it back home. But anything more than that, I have to call someone to pick me up. I have some basic tools and a small tire pump that I take with me, but I can't really fix things in the dark on the side of the road.
>>532565800E-bikers should be shot>>532565951Get on your bike and stop being a pussy.
>>532567783Thank you, pedro
What a gay thread I’m leaving Cocksuckers all of yous with you e-bikes My calves > your gay anus
I actually have an bike but EU cucked 250w one because of gay laws here. >25 mile commute>Google says it would take 2 hrs 18minsNo thanks I'd rather stab a man to death for a cup of petrol
>>532565800Only if you can charge them somewhere for free.
>>532566111Get a load of this rich faggot!
>>532566111E bikes are for the rich, fool.If you are , you should get one to prove it.if you do the have one , you are poor.
>>532565800Electricity prices are tied to oil prices, dummy
Just buy an electric car instead
>>532565951your sister
>>532570792These bastards do this because noone can punish them.
>>532565800Bicycles are for homeless people. Eating out of a dumpster and living under a bridge is cost effective also
>>532579247They'll never be able to enforce that.
>>532571303Inexperienced riders who do not know how evil the world.is.Usually women,coz they live in their.safely Bubble.Goes without checking left and right for incoming vehicles, relying on assumption that people obey rules.
I want one of those Sur-Ron Ultra Bee electric motorcycles. They look fun as fuck.
>>532578135>How about when you're 50+ yrs old and your knees and back ache nearly everydaythat's caused by a carnigger lifestyle. exercise makes you age better actually, just get a decent dual sport vehicle>>532578845yeah, these small 2 stroke contraptions are fun but not a healthy choice at all, also you can always import a multi kW ebike conversion kit and get far more power output in the same space
>>532578845Front rack has a flimsy anchoring point. No fenders but has racks.What a retarded bike.Also It looks like a 4 stroke engine.
>>532565800>E-bikesMight as well put a dildo in your ass while you're at it
>>532579179This is why you want people to be poor. So there are not many cars on the road.American lifestyle is about keeping the majority poor , so you the rich one, to have a good time living.
>>532589822Vegan gains thought that too for the electric motorcycles , until he got one and saw the reality.Then he sold it and for a real motorcycle
>>532586265This, they are toys for most people, main forms of transport for poor people.>>532589948I did a conversion and don't recommend it unless you're set on converting it back to ride as a regular bike often. It's difficult to find compatible parts as there's so many different specs for bikes, most kits are not drop-in.
>>532587096I think e-bikes have blocks on the drive chain w, you can. it pedal them without a key to unlock them. Like real motorcycles.So harder to steal.
>>532587096>OP's bike looks expensive as fuck.This is why he shills this treat.He tries to appeal cool of having a bike so the rich can hop on his bike wagon.
>riding a bike when women, asians, and jeets are permitted to drive
>>532577960this, I drove for LYFT for a few months and it's just not worth it. I was doing all the work and burning all the gas and wearing out my car and the paltry pay was just not worth it. If those kikes at corporate didn't keep half the money they charged people for me giving them a ride it might have been slightly worth it but as they have it designed now- nope, not worth it.
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>>532589822Surrons used to be legally a bicycle so you could essentially ride them wherever bicycles could go. But now they're legally a motorcycle. They have a lot of torque, and they're quiet, but the range is pretty shit, and top speed is low compared to an actual motorcycle, and they're expensive for what they are.With that said, I really hate gas-powered shit because they're loud and stinky. If you watch videos of groups riding Surrons, they can actually talk to each other normally. They aren't get smogged out every time they stop, and they don't have to start an engine before they can drive away.
>>532589822What I want is an e-bike that looks exactly like a normal bike(or close enough that it's not easy to tell) but doesn't cost an arm and a leg. Actually, what I want is a bike that looks like it isn't even worth $100 so that niggers don't get any ideas, and cops think I'm on a regular bicycle.
yeah, they cost like 10k, which nobody has. and have a short distance. cant carry groceries or anything beyond your immediate possessions. the list is endless really
>>532565800So do regular bikes
>>532594235You could find that searching Amazon for 5 seconds. I paid 500$ or so for my electric bike, don't know why people are paying multi thousands for one
>e-bikes are made with 0 products containing petrochemicals[X] Doubt
>>532594339To be fair, you can periodically get something like pic-related for $150. I bought one that looks almost exactly like it and with almost identical specs. Top speed with me on it is a little over 20 mph on flat ground(using a tracking app on my phone). Range is about 16-20 miles.That's less than one month of car insurance in many cases.
>>532565800What I dont get is why people aren't strapping two of them side by side to create a light weight electric buggy. Not your heavy ass clumsy mobility scooters or golf buggy, no. Something light weight, fast and nimble, that can be pedaled a bit to reduce battery discharge.Imagine that with a few cross bars you could create a comfy seat in the middle with a rack in the back to carry a good load of groceries. Or a another person for that matter/ Replace the front end with a single central steering. Fuck me, we aren't looking at rocket science here. A few bits chopped off and replaced with struts and cables.A few other minor modifications and you are good to go! Stable on the road. Would be great for older people or those who regularly want to cart a load of something. Could probably come with some sort of retractable rain protection.
>>532565800Saw an e-bike on the road on the way back from a supermarket the other day. That thing was fast as FUCK. Kept up with cars in a 70 km/h zone, and passed one when it became a 60 km/h zone (43.5 mph, 37.3 mph). Honestly quite impressive. Everyone moved away from him, sensing an impending slow point, but he just kept up and acted like a car. I put my car behind him when it became clear he wasn't going to hold up traffic. Personally, I wouldn't want to ride a fast pushbike on the roads in my area - lots of indians and other ethnics around. I'd be concerned one might try for a close overtake and clip me for izzat gain.
>>532565800The problem is they are slow...i dont give a fuck if youre bbcshd is unlocked to only 30mph...anything less than 3kW is shit. Slap a golden motor on a downhill bike and now were in usable territory.
>>532565951Get the dildo seat.
>>532565800The government can jam your motor remotely or even crash it if it is mossadmaxxed from the factory. Ice engines with old analog dials with no bluetooth/wifi connected ecus are wef proof.
crimes man here, i strongly encourage everyone to have at least one illegal unregistered electric e-moped. would you anons like to know how to scam the chinese out of their ebike conversion kits? go on ebay, look for multiple random named ebay accounts with thousands of feedback selling the same shit for similar prices all out of the same city. sometimes it's chino, CA. sometimes it's a city in Texas.IT MUST MEET THESE CRITERIA.get the item and then claim stuff was missing. fill it with junk bike parts and ship it back to them. you can try to sabotage the package so it falls apart in transit, but this doesn't even matter.the oriental menace are selling so much shit out of massive warehouses and dodging taxes, they don't even deal with it. they're probably too busy doing human trafficking, renting entire neighborhoods for grow houses, and spying on our military and infrastructure.e-bike batteries are expensive, overpriced, and dangerous, i suggest using large outdoor lawn equipment/power tool batteries. just get the conversion kits to start out, hub motor is fine. as you go up in power you WILL want to have someone fab and weld a little bit on your dropouts to reinforce them and lock them. also don't do this on a bike without disk brakes. you will die. i have almost died several times. women drivers need to be banned.
>>532565800>Problem?They are very expensive, the price of electricity goes up way more than gazoline over the last decade. The the biggest problems are, they require maintenance (a lot compared to a regular bike and if not done, breakage can be very expensive again), and batteries get bad quite fast, a new battery is around 700€. Also it doesn't shield you from elements.
>>532576197Subways are built according to each city, not the whole country you moron, those are trains. And yes, we have both subways and trains. And they work great, unlike New York subway.
not my pic. when i started messing around with this two years ago, no one was using ego batteries and doing photo+writeup guides on it. a few people on endless sphere made textposts.you will want batteries that are listed as 40v-60v. Kobalt, Ego, Ryobi, Toro, Husqvarna even. check their nominal rating. ie, Kobalt 40v is actually a 36v battery, which has a peak charge of 40v. I started out with a bunch of Kobalt 40v batteries in the 4ah and 6ah range. You can get batteries for these brands cheap used (but avoid old ones) or as part of clearance sales at Home Depot/Lowes (Best way to get Ego batteries at Lowes is when they change out inventory and sell something that comes with good sized batteries stupid cheap). DO NOT GET KNOCKOFF BATTERIES.The reason I like outdoor power batteries is their chargers AND the batteries are full of safety systems and features, unlike a no-name e-bike battery. a 36v 4ah battery obviously has less capacity than even a 10ah or 20ah 36v, but you can have a couple charged and ready to go, and swap out. 3D printed adapters are available so you get a positive and negative terminal coming from a plastic brick you slide the battery into. I used a dead charger (blown capacitor) so I had something that the battery already slid and locked into, and had the ideal blade contacts. Just had to remove the extraneous blades, gut the circuit board, and run power wires to the positive and negative slots. Basic hub motor and controller you got for free (i strongly suggest twist throttle) + 4ah or so battery + decent cheap bike (suggest full suspension) and you've got something that can very quietly and quickly nip around town and do various activities frowned on by the powers that be.oh yeah and hub motors are all the same in their size range. you'll see a hub motor being sold as 1000w, and then an option to pay more for 1500w, but it physically looks the same size. that's because it's the same motor.
Notice how the jewed masonic countries like UK and Australia are cracking down on them at the same time as oil shocks? Quite the cohencidence
>>532565800>doesn't shield you while bolting in front of a car from an unexpected direction.And nothing of value was lost.
>>532595952You could make a whole damn car with how easy it is to get a variety of motors these days. 4 hub motors could easily make a vehicle but the wheels would be heavy and it's unsprung weight so the bumps would be gnarly. 4 chain drive motors would work well but you'd have to add a lot of weight in batteries either way. Then you get to the point where you realize a gas motor and tank would be more practical. But yes you could make a while damn car if your fabrication skills were good enough. A fiberglass shell is actually very easy to make so it could even look sleek.
>>532567314>I take it you'll be recharging the battery with a hand-crankMost of the adult children who ride these just add to their elderly parents burden by charging them at " home".
>>532597352>>532597816range and battery life depend on speed. if you want to tear around at top speed at all times, you will get fuck all for range. if you use it as an assist to pedaling and an occasional power boost, you'll get a shocking amount of range while still exercising. i have improved my fitness dramatically by using my setup for any errand that didn't require going more than six miles + cargo capacity. your own pedal power will add the equivalent of 100w-200w btw. hub motors are also weak from the start unless they're massively overpowered (your first build won't be) so you should always help pedal a bit for extra battery life. people who say an e-bike will not get you in shape are clueless. just the overall act of balancing it is an upper body workout that you don't even realize you're doing.i can do 20mph for about a mile and a half before one of the smaller 4ah kobalt batteries starts to drain. on the next illegal street moto i'm building, it'll be doing significantly more power on a dual bank of ego 10ah batteries. (ego 56v max is nominally 52v and i had to order a special controller, 36v/48v/72v controllers don't usually play well with 52v) i have not noticed any lifecycle shortening on the kobalts, your ebike controller will have undervoltage protection.you will also run into all sorts of random bullshit the first time you do this. "endless sphere" is your friend for researching why whatever controller / display / throttle thing you got is causing error codes or won't work. failing that, uh, plebbit does exist.unregistered DIY e-motos are the new two wheeled outlaw transport system. i highly encourage anyone who has been waiting to get into this, to do it now.
>>532598099>unregistered DIY e-motos are the new two wheeled outlaw transport system>laughs in diesel powered bike (while you're on the side of the road with a dead battery)
>>532595952people do make these things, usually DIY, and they look like absolute fucking deathtraps. it would be fun to drive around my back pasture but i wouldn't want to go within a mile of Aubreigh and her 2019 Kia SUV packed with Jaydens and Kaydens. you're also going to be less able to weave through obstacles or physically jump a curb to avoid danger / the local constabulary. I also hate changing tubes & tires with only two to deal with, imagine four. FUCKspeaking of tubes & tires, if you aren't on a fat tire wheel bike running moped tires, run the fattest urban tires you can get, I like Maxxis Hookworms. you want a beefy bike to convert, pic related, not my exact bike but almost identical to the model I converted. had to hang a lot of shit off the sides because not a lot of mounting space but it works. Oh yeah and make sure to get a full face helmet. If you go down at 15-20mph your face & teeth will appreciate it.
>>532598479gay
>>532566974fucking hell man, imagine walking your dog and having to witness this of all things, lmao
>>532565800You still need oil to generate electricity. And how do you think your bike parts, like the tyres, are made?
>>532574123its really pathetic seeing bike riders during the dead of winter. see it in wyoming too. very poor people
>>532598613The key motive here is to provide a vehicle that is dirt cheap, entirely electric but can be pedal assisted, has 4 wheel stability on the road, provides some convenient carrying capacity and weather protection.I'm talking Mrs Jones doing her grocery shopping, Mrs Smith dropping off her kid at school, Mr Roberts the shop keeper going to work, the librarian, the office worker, the factory worker, etc, basically anyone who lives within a reasonable distance of amenities and workplace. Which I believe is still a large percentage of the population ( but varies heavily by country and area) I think their weekly travel would account for a significant percentage of national travel. Short mundane trips done on a daily basis. Where I live most people jump in their cars to do a 10 to 20 minute trip. Shopping, school. work. When I was biking I found it added very little time to a car trip becasue of the increased ease of just jumping on my bike, no parking hassle, and extra mobility.Yeah I know its a pipe dream becasue like you said the safety factor comes into play when you have them sharing the road with traffic. But my dream would be to replace half the roads with dedicated Bicycle and Quadracycles lanes which are entirely separated from regular vehicle traffic for most of the time. In this fantasy at least parts of these paths are covered with solar panels, offering energy generation as well as additional weather protection.This wouldn't work in many existing towns and cities without major rezoning, and a raft of changes to existing regulations and laws. However the long term benefits in places where it is feasible would be significant in pollution reduction, fossil fuel reduction, local government cost savings, and general public health.
>>532599800i'm sold. please become the Wayne Lambright of hybrid human/electric powered quadracycles
>>532565800>The bikes just cycle themselves to the shop from the factory that totally doesnt use any oil at any point
>>532599800https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDbFqqgG3qgit's a slant knockoff of the Swincar e-spider btw
>>532565800Why not just get a regular mountain bike? Not as heavy and easier to move around. Also lets you get some exercise.
>>532571782No, it's multiculturalism.
>>532565800your groceries and other goods just get teleported into the store and don't need any transportation to get there?
>>532568310just get one. prices are dropping right now anyway because the normalfag market has been saturated so demand is downalthough if you're young, I don't reallly see the point
I'd rather get one of thesehttps://youtu.be/c_05tcpmyUU?si=zlzsFmf5XkjBS3Gh
