In what year did the number of normal people on this board become greater than the number of non-normal people...I want to understand when exactly the forum became different... when exactly CREATING A FAMILY, having children, playing Jewish games, and engaging in pathetic attempts to swim out of the ocean of inflation took precedence over REBELLION. I know for a fact this happened even before the awakening of the leftist idiots.
>>532591146That's actually not exclusively related to demographics because>people grow upSo the shift already began some time between 2012 and 2015, I think, but happened gradually.I don't keep track of anything even tangentially related to normie diseases like le based influcancers, but I suspect those also had something to do with it, when the eternal contrarian edgy neets realised that breeding and mental health actually is kind of important, instead of just playing video games and seething about da joos.Most certainly it happened before the recent blackpill events like a fucking flu nothingburger vaccination. Thedonald cancer probably isn't strictly related either, since these people are utterly useless, and there were /fit/-like posters before then.
Misogyny may be a useful benchmark to help track this change as well, because that's something which has increased, partly forced and shilled, but also organically - I don't remember there being such a focus on women hate. It was just TFW NO GF instead of constant (and delusional) all women are whores demoralisation.Obviously there's some Gamergate connection in this, which in itself however has no connection to those shifts you are mentioning, but happening in 2014 it fits the timeframe.
What's also certain is that it predates the proliferation of the manosphere thing or is connected to it, which again fits the time-frame, gaining currency in the early 2010s and hitting significant levels by 2014.With the board created in 2011 we might have to assume that it was a totally gradual and fluid process, partially connected to growth of the board, maturation, and cultural things during the middle 2010s increasing it in prominence, bringing it up to a certain static baseline level, which may again have spiked some time after the covid meme or during the recent sissyfication of /pol/.
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>>532591146All the breeders depend on the government to protect their tax spawn from Tyrone and Abdul as well as you chuds. Most people are docile breeder wagies who have no interest in any revolution or radical change, this became apparent during the pandemic, and never mind risking their life for anything. All they care about is waging so that their tax spawn can survive into adulthood and perpetuate the cycle.
>>532591146This boards always been full of normal people, they just cried like faggots a lot more.
>>532593540That's all sorts of distorted. Are you new?>protect their tax spawnHomeschooling has always been the go-to topic in this respect.>most people are docile breeder wagiesThat may be true for a proportion men, but they're generally not successful at it, or not intentionally so if they are. The idea of white people breeding is ultra right wing extremism, as you should know.>never mind risking their lifeNormies have no real conception of death, like an animal; which is why some of them join the military and many encourage various forms of suicide or self-destruction.> this became apparent during the pandemicHas been well known long before then; the "pandemic" only illustrated the exact proportion of bootlickers, cattle and spinelessoids.>All they care about is waging so that their tax spawn can survive into adulthoodWhile that's a very stereotypically normie thing I believe those times are well past. It applies mainly to Gen X parents, but people working for their children has become less and less common, not least because they either have no children or are quickly divorced. Also a common cope; Don't have time for you sweaty because the cock carou-I mean I have to earn money to feed you n shiieeet.But it may be worth investigating antinatalism. That crept into the board at some point, and while its growth wasn't massive it did grow and shift in tone with time.
>>532592534>>532592863>>532593197Pretty good analysis, anon. Thank you for such an extended answer.
>>532593540A literal human farm, I've known about it, anon...for a long time now, by the way.
>>532594905You're welcome, but I can't say I'm totally satisfied with my answer. If a few more people chime in the exact nature of the transformation may become more clear, so have another bump and a rare pepe.
Taking this opportunity, I will ask a question...what is the path and future of NON-normis on this board and in reality? To ignore basic biological patterns, you need to have imagination, not just laziness...so I hope for interesting answers.
>>532591146>I want to understand when exactly the forum became different2015, then again in 2019, then again in 2021. The most normie influx since 2016 was 2021
>>532595118It's complex, whether people are aware of it or not.>the truth will set you freeUnfortunately that's not how it works. Knowledge may be power, but also requires power in return, like people need to be rich to get rich.>how do you act on that shit?!?Blackpilling and demoralisation are a near unavoidable (and desired) side-effect. For many simply leaving this place would be a significant accomplishment - that however we would not hear about - to simply focus on their own immediate issues and forget about the big picture that is well above your stature.It's about efficacy to an extent, accomplishing something. Sometimes you can accomplish something on here, but it's a rare exception. The natural goal for many should simply be finding the productive thing they like doing, and doing it, and then one thing may lead to another.There's no point to tunnel vision on any impositions (or ideological matters), say breeding; is it what you actually want, what would make you happy; or what you have been conditioned to believe? Are there alternatives to it? Is it simply loneliness? Truly would be terrible if people were absolutely reliant on accomplishing or obtaining one particular thing to have any shot at life satisfaction, especially if they lost their chance or never had it; as such I do not believe this actually is the case.It's very important for people to realise they exist only for one particular "purpose": themselves. Nobody exists for anybody or anything else; that is merely an idea, or a belief, or a cope. And while it sounds egocentric or hedonistic it's simply the truth; but constructing such a genuine individualism, being your real self.Expectations are a crucial component there, and implanted expectations can be very damaging.Kinda turned into a bit of a cliche sermon.
if the situation was hopless the propaganda would be unnesscary
>>532591146There was before 2016 and after it.
r/donald tourists and the exposure that came with it turned this place into a shill and glownigger cringe board
>>532596142It's funny that you mentioned individualism...I'm working on that very idea.-----------I always thought that such people fade into oblivion, do not allow their theories and ideas to develop... just wait for something, until the end of their lives.but it is simply necessary to consolidate...even though this is against the nature of an individualist, not a normie.>like people need to be rich to get richThe very problem of a lack of resources with a sufficiency of ideas...and vice versa...is solved by consolidation.
>>532596869Good point. There is a natural order to the way things are now; definitely something that has gradually caught on on /pol/.>can't save the normies>or only by force or against their will, making the idea questionableThe elite has weaponised many things against the masses - and so would everybody else because it cannot work in any other way.It's also natural that for some people to be rich many others must be poor. Where is the money supposed to come from otherwise?>hence communism>where everybody ends up being poorBecoming yourself is quite a challenge in any case, or many cases - I can't speak for everybody - because people have to contend with outside influences, and it requires a sometimes paradoxical combination of skills and attitudes, being both modest and demanding, pragmatic and ambitious - although it's questionable whether these genuinely are opposites. Can one be without either of them? Harshness and kindness? Many things are simply learned, including how things are perceived, like morality, and this can be difficult to explore or change. In fact many may have little chance of ever getting themselves "under control", and the outcome to this is being a normie, or a failure, or incomplete, or broken, or things like that (probably?).Ultimately the focus must always return to the self however. You're not rich enough? According to whom?
>>532591146Coronahoax exposed the goyim on levels never before thought possible. We already had a decent idea of who the jews, elites, corporations, governments and the occultists really were and while there have been a lot of new revelations regarding their plans nothing pales in comparison to how much the goyim have been unmasked. The fuckers who pushed it were geniuses and deserve our gratitude for exposing how foolish and willing to betray us most people really were. The real criminals are the morally sanctimonious narcissists who put their faith in governments and pharmaceutical mega corporations. Every day average "law abiding citizens" are the reason the world we live in is in such turmoil and full of suffering.
>>532597839Yes, the economy you mentioned is the worst of "their" weapons...literally fucking Ebola, Spanish flu or the plague don't even come close...Many people think that the economy is a tool, but it has never been like that...It's good that there are people who see the real facts through all this white noise.> it requires a sometimes paradoxical combination of skills and attitudesYou've clearly grasped the essence of the ideology I described above...We need people who combine introverts and extroverts... leaders and people who can fulfill obligations (but not slaves). This is essentially the recipe for an Autonomous Human... no desire for power, but a desire to create. It is for such people that I would like to create a system that would satisfy their need to create their own worlds, which could, like pieces of a mosaic, complement each of their ambitions. Like a frame-matrix... freely developing worlds embedded within them. The essence of the matrix, however, is to maintain equal boundaries, ensure ideological individualism, and eliminate fundamental forms of dissent (hierarchical thinking, destructive and incompatible ideas that could destroy the frame).The advantage of such a system is that everyone who enters it can freely exit, inherently independent—autonomous. Adult decisions for Adult Individuals. no folders of states/gods and other nonsense...Only an ideology literally locked into the philosophy of individualism.------------------------------>although it's questionable whether these genuinely are opposites.If you really think about it deeply, these are just additions that in the real world are usually perceived as a CONTRADICTION - although in a Utopian world - an ideal world... in an artificial system such as NI... this would be the most ordinary behavior.
>>532598267I wouldn't call them narcissists...more like pseudonarcissists...true narcissism for normies would be more like a CURE for their conformism.I understand what you were talking about... (about their supernatural, HUGE trust in the system, coupled with their HUGE sense of self-importance...it's an extremely strange combination of negative traits in a person...which, unfortunately, the ABSOLUTE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE have)...the very same programming that prevents them from admitting real mistakes...real blindness, real personal weakness...and from going and doing something to correct them.This even exists in us, anon, but we can suppress it... and I think with time we will cope with such negative traits as laziness, procrastination, excessive fear of punishment by the system, ethical stigmatization, as well as what I consider the most important negative factor for us... THE IMPOSTOR SYNDROME (that we are unworthy of resources, a better life, etc.)... can also be translated as "he syndrome of 2nd place"
>>532591146>REBELLIONHilarious.Your greatest rebellion was when you decided to get on girl hormones and to castrate yourself, that's the only rebellion you will ever be part of, faggot.
>>532591146the economical factors of age has a "hidden" metric: potential vs actualization.the younger you are, the more you have potential but less actualization. as you become older you (hopefully) actualized that potential, but the "cost" of potential. or IOW time forces you to "trade" potential for actualization.rebellion is a good prospect for people who have lost of potential but little if zero actualization. as you become older and (hopefully) more actualized, the less appalling rebellion becomes.
>>532600301That's why it's so important for young people to ignore economic rules... devised by the elite. They're literally donating their life time... to a slave system in which they have no choice but to leave another slave in their place.This is literally the only chance this system gives them... to leave the one or those who will suffer in their place.Rebellion is actually a very capacious term, containing within it the ideological complex of DISOBEDIENCE.Why submit to a system that takes away your freedom and gives you a few crumbs of comfort... you didn't even create it, but you're forced to obey it... by default.This is wrong... that's the difference between what's normal and what's not.And the game of potential and realization... within the existing economic system is a game of small fish against a giant whale... someday the whale will tire of playing... and it will eat everything it sees... everything it sees... sees...
>>532600769You masonic fags are pathetic and not interessting. kys asap, waste of O2.
>>532600769>That's why it's so important for young people to ignore economic rulesits not THAT simple. if you're a boomer, i.e. 18 years old in the mid-late 70s ot early 80s, than playing with the systems is (at least in retrospective) highly beneficial.there is always a context, i.e. some rule-set whether is it natural law or man made, and the context is not always bad. also, you are always "playing a game" whether you like it or not. >Rebellion is actually a very capacious term, containing within it the ideological complex of DISOBEDIENCEso is divergence it's not always team A vs. team B. emphasis on "vs". being a passport bro is an example for divergence.
