r/atheism is absolutely losing their shit because an astronaut in the Artemis mission quotes Christs commandment to love each other, now they are going as far as organizing raids on other subreddits to flood them with anti christian comments https://old.reddit.com/r/atheism/comments/1see4gh/disappointing_amount_of_religious_bs_being/?sort=confidence
>>532602017what did they expect? relitards always stick their mental illness where it doesn't belong
>>532602017womp womp
>>532602017Bro the basedlennial rejection of God has to be studied, I'm not even Christian and I respect people's beliefs. If you take anything from Gen Z, take solace that we respect religion more than these retarded fuckers.
>>532602017But why does "god" want worship forever 24/7?Whats so thrilling about it?
>>532602017I totally get the rage. Faggot should have shut up about his religion, especially when it's something taxpayer funded.You fags will disagree, but if it had been some muzzrat talking about the glory of Allah's creation you'd all be raging all the same.Don't shoehorn your retarded desert religion where it doesn't belong.
>>532602596to worship god is simply to acknowledge his dominion
>>532602547>I respect people's beliefsSo i take it you also respect a man believing he's a woman?
one of the threads being raidedhttps://www.reddit.com/r/ArtemisProgram/comments/1see4uc/artemis_ii_message_to_humanity/
>>532602409atheism requires more blind faith than belief in god does
>>532602614>if a muzzrat had landed on the moon>if pagans conquered the planet instead of christians>if the atheist USSR won the cold war>if if ifyou lost, tranny
>>532602547I really wonder, because unlike the Boomers millennials did not get raped or molested at Church. In the 60s-80s some Boomer genuinely went to Church and had a too handsy priest. That's been gone in the states for decades, Evangelicals don't know what Sex is and all Catholics are spics whose Dads and Uncles rape the daughters. So, Millennials basically were jealous they didn't get raped, and they go online to vent about how theirbTV show told them God wasn't real.Millennial sciencism is pathetic and confusing. Genuine example of pity them they know not what they do.
>>532602687Atheism is the absence of faith, LARPer.
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>>532602641I'm quite sure worship is to give adoration.
>>532602753could we be living in a computer simulation?could we be the figment of a dream of a higher being?
>>532602753And, how are you going to prove that space cadet?
>>532602547>Bro the basedlennial rejection of God has to be studied,They spent too much time in the trenches in videoreply chains with young earth creationists. The persistent exposure gave them what amounts to a spiritual autoimmune disorder. I don't blame them for ending up the way they are given what they were dealing with but I wish it didn't happen the way it did.
>>532602753the absence of faith is agnosticism, akshually
>>532602753No, atheism is a lack of deity or deities. There are religious people (lhp for example) who are atheist but still hold diverse beliefs
>>532602707>80 IQ non-Whites outbreeding Whites because they lack responsibility is a good thing if they're religiousthe absolute state
>>532602902Agnosticism is the claim that its unknowable, not the lack of faith.
>>532602955From a purely survivalist point of view it is a very good thing.
>>532602955what's the matter, trannyi thought you loved survival of the fittest?
>>532602614>>532602596Your conquistador ancestors are looking down from heaven at you and they laughing about what a faggot you are.
>>532602017Ahahajajajsjjjajaj.>geniuses colonize space>all Chrsitian believersAtheists proven to just be depressed fat low IQ dysgenic people.
>>532602017Well. That op wasn't on the ship. Maybe he needs a shroomtrip to understand that he doesn't understand much. And believing he understands makes him know less. These " i don't use DRUGS people get on a high horse sometimes.
>>532602711It was caused by evangelicals cheering on Bush's neocon wars and CIA torture programs. They acted as goyshields for the jews running his foreign policy, and libtards bought the idea being sold by (((new atheists))) that Christianity was the cause of wars.
>>532602409How many space launches have you been a crewmember on?
>>532602017The fact that it's a jab at bombing Iran surely has nothing to do with the rabid response. Complete cohencedence.
>>532602641Funny there's a Muslim there when Muslims have been conquering Christian lands for centuries.
>>532603106This goyshield strategy is also why Trump is surrounding himself with Paula White, Franklin Graham, and other evangelical pastors during the Iran war while the Chabad rabbis aren't visiting the White House anymore. Libtards think there's an evangelical conspiracy running the US government, and jews want to encourage that belief.
>>532603037>AncestorsI come from a family of devil worshippers, whenever you're ready for the sacrifical blade I'm ready to take on the family tradition just for (((you)))
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>>532603288That was before the 1400 years of inbreeding set in. Now your genes are permanently tainted. You guys can't even conquer one small nation of jews, even as the jews import you as a literal bioweapon in western nations.
>>532603037>Your conquistador ancestorsMy ancestors were a bunch of peasants oppressed by the church.
>>532602139Typical dumb fuck Aussie retard.
Love is discrimination because you can’t love everyone equally just as God makes conjoined twins and speds who don’t have freewill.
>>532603015>i thought you loved survival of the fittest?Too bad you can't guarantee your kids will be religious
>>532602687Atheism requires zero blind faith.It simply says: "I don't believe your god claim." That's it.You don't need faith to reject something that has never been proven. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and "an invisible sky wizard made everything" has none.The universe doesn't owe you a comforting story. It can begin from quantum fluctuations or a prior state we don't fully understand yet. Life emerged through chemistry and natural selection over billions of years. Consciousness is a product of complex brains. Morality is an evolved social tool for cooperation.Belief in gods requires faith because it asserts positive supernatural claims without evidence. Atheism is just the absence of that belief the default rational position until proven otherwise.Theism is the one demanding you accept magic. Atheism says "show me the receipts."
>>532602842>could we>could weKek
>>532602846By the lack of faith they have? Is this a serious question?
>>532602999atheism is the faith that there is no god.
>>532602017Based, fuck Jew-lovet Christcucks
>>532602547>I'm not even Christian and I respect people's beliefs. If you take anything from Gen Z, take solace that we respect religion more than these retarded fuckers.Browns tend to be more religious, yeah.
>>532604150Incorrect
>>532604183>"[Jesus said to the jews:] You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it."- John 8:44>"Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee."- Revelation 3:9
>>532602017atheists love fucking trusting the science and presentable evidence. yet non of these low IQ retards ever checked any scientific papers for their authenticity.Atheists are just low IQ tards the replaced religion with preaches in lab coats.real scientists are agnostics, understanding that science is nothing more than a mere approximation of the real world and its effects, and thus can never be 100% fully understood.
>>532602017I hate religion. I bet they wouldn't have done it with islam or judaism. Hate is only permitted against christianity.
>>532604313>which say they are Jews, and are notHe's telling the Pharisees they aren't the right type of jew like himself
>>532602017Christianity is definitely false so it's ok.
>>532602017It's well established that demons cannot tolerate the name of our Lord and saviour Jesus Christ. Rebuke them and cast them out in his name wheresoever you find them.
>>532603627At least we have foreskins. Drink beer, eat pork. We have to live with summa them arabs but they know their place
>>532602017>r/atheismare we back in 2007?
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>>532602409Better Christianity than judaism any day of the week so like fuck off or something
>>532602017Well christcucks are retarded though. I guess this astronaut is an exception
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>>532604496Too bad none of them could prove God, (let alone their favorite version of God) exists
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You can tell atheists hate humanity because they hate Christ and adore Muhrmmad.
>>532602017>REDDITORS are upset about my dead kike on a stick>(CHRIIIIISTTT IZZZZ KAAAAANGGGG)>better post on /pol/ about a redditor posting about it
>>532604622You all are virtually the same to me
>>532604548Sucks for you that I wasn't indoctrinated into the fear of Christian hell at a young age and therefore all this seems like nothing more than manmade BS to me. Muslim hell though...
>>532604597the image clearly lists many extra-biblical sources
>>532604743>the image clearly lists many extra-biblical sourcesNot really no
>>532602017none of these posters ever get called a faggot, and it shows.'adults' that live in a safety bubble piss me off.
>>532604708Must be awsome not feeling a little guilt after yonking the tonk
>>532604670>Christians responsible for thousands of deathshuh?
>>532604796>>Christians responsible for thousands of deathsMore then that
>>532602409You're a stupid nigger.
>>532604836How so?
>>532603790>Theism is the one demanding you accept magic. Atheism says "show me the receipts."Rejecting anything out-of-hand because you don't see the proof, or at least proof you can accept, is worse than useless.Do I reject flat-earthers out of hand?No. I think they are fucking retards but to be handed a set of alternate explanations for observable reality is interesting. I feel the same what about religious fundies. The flip side of the argument is to examine what was accepted as absolute scientific fact in 1960 and compare it to 'truth' today and see the overlap.
If there isn't a loveful god, then human life is meaningless and senseless.
>>532604670I'm the guy who keeps arguing Christ was just a man who wasted his effort trying to purify an evil demon people and got saved by the Romans out of sympathy.You don't have to believe in Christ's godhood to adore him. I don't.
>>532604877Nigger. Are you stupid on purpose? The crusades alone are enough to demonstrate the point.>>532604892>Rejecting anything out-of-hand because you don't see the proof, or at least proof you can accept, is worse than useless.Not when the ones demand I believe like them.
>>532604955>You don't have to believe in Christ's godhood to adore him. I don't.Sure. I think Christ is a good allegory
>>532604792I don't have the fear of "What if it's real?" when it comes to Christianity, only Islam. If anything, to me it seems the only people who defend Christianity are willingly lying to themselves.
>>532604971>The crusadesIs that a joke?
>>532604971>Nigger. Are you stupid on purpose?>>532605062I guess so
>>532604853Seething christcuck
>>532603884Kinda ironic for someone who plays word games all day. Maybe try again champ.
>>532605185>who plays word gamesSuch as?
>>532603790Atheism is pure blind faith and superstition. It's the rejection of a first cause, which means you reject cause and effect as a whole. Atheism has been proven to be nothing more than the inability to think rationally since well before organized religion was ever a thing.
>>532602017Why would they think that being an astronaut and being religious would be two contradictory things?
>>532605162I'm agnostic. Atheists are way more cringe and annoying than Christians, with less morals. 100% At least Christians bring about positive community and charity work. Atheists jerk themselves off thinking they're smart but will never rise above mediocrity.
>>532605247>It's the rejection of a first cause,No, it's rejection of your opinion of the first cause
>>532604971>Not when the ones demand I believe like them.Truth.That's how I feel about everything regarding modern 'social science'. From inbred africans to trannies with bloodstains between their legs, DEI, and the boundless benefit of personal pronouns.Yeah, they can get fucked.
>>532605314Agreed 100%
>>532602614I agree, polfags follow christ because its le anti reddit, reactionary and triggers kikes. At the end of the day, if redditors were Christian, pol would laugh at them. Any White nationalist worth their salt, knows Christianity does not serve you. At least pagans worship their ancestors, not some random nigga from the desert.
>>532605244>By the lack of faith they have? Is this a serious question?
>>532602753Atheism is the faith that all our ancestors were evil, superficial lunatics, and that embracing troonism, prostitution, race mixing and polyamory will usher in a golden age where fried vegan pigs fly into our mouths and rivers run with honey and cum-laced wine.
>>532605309No, it's the rejection of any first cause. You aren't achristian or abuddha, you're claiming to be an atheist. Meaning you reject any notion of theism. Meaning you reject any and all first causes, because by nature a first cause must needs be a deity, or "the first in the order of progression". Atheism means that you explicitly reject logic, reason and the belief in cause and effect. It means you belief that there's such a thing as "random chance".
>>532605401christianity is the definition of right wing political ideology- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left%E2%80%93right_political_spectrum#Origins_in_the_French_Revolution
>>532604892>Rejecting anything out-of-hand because you don't see the proof, or at least proof you can accept, is worse than useless. And accepting anything out-of-hand because you are gullible is retarded and useless as wellMight as well eat and smear shit too then because indians say it's full of nutrients and keeps your skin soft.What, why don't you believe them? I thought rejecting anything out of hand without seeing proof is worse than useless?
>>532605435How is this "Word games" exactly?>>532605464>No, it's the rejection of any first causeNope.>thinks theism is the only possible first cause Grow up kiddo
>>532605456*superstitious
>>532603790Atheism makes the assertion that a God cannot exist, which is a definitive claim about something that by its very nature may be unknowable or unprovable. The only honest thing you can be is agnostic.Besides atheists are generally cunts. I don't golf. I don't spend any of my time talking about golf, or going on message boards to talk to other people about how much golf we don't play. I don't mock or belittle those who do play golf or try to get the PGA tour shut down because I'm so bothered by it. Atheists spend a whole lot of time talking about something they claim they don't believe in.
>>532605519Yes. It's literally the definition of the word and these are the battle lines that have been drawn for over 4000 years on this subject. You either believe in cause and effect or you believe in random chance and chaos. Theism is cause and effect, atheism is random chance and chaos. These are logically necessary definitions.
>>532605583>The only honest thing you can be is agnostic.Agnostic atheism for me
>>532602017It's crazy how religion makes some atheists genuinely angry. It's as if they were actually demons.I'd like to know how widespread this is among atheists. If it's only 5%, that's fine, it's normal; there are always retards in every group, but I suspect that this hateful reaction to religion is much more widespread. I wouldn't be surprised if it reached at least 50% of atheists.
>>532605618>YesNope
>>532605456>Atheism is.>a list of unrelated nonsenselmao kill yourself.It must suck spending all day worrying about what some fictional deity will do to you for existing as an imperfect human.
>>532605588trinity in the Old Testament - https://youtu.be/odNoExd8a5U- https://youtu.be/rp92-3aBL-A- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CBh8lmgecs
>>532605682>oogaboogaLmao
There's essentially no difference between atheism and the religious with how infinistimally small the human psyche is. It's like arguing that you have an extra spec of dust on your side against the other. Your lives are for the most part utterly meaningless, trite, pedantic - the same cycles repeating themselves over and over. You offer nothing and your ego is unjustified. You'd all be more profound by keeping your mouths shut.
>>532602614Because Islam and Judaism are demonic ritual religions while Christ is King. Get your facts straight
I HATE THIS. I HATE HOW ATHEISM HAS BECOME A REDDITOR THING. Suddenly christ is cool man! Im seeing it all over the internet currently. Fuck off religion is gay and its fucking weird. It's 1000% the same shit as if some muslim astronaut thanked Allah. That would be fucking weird and so is this. Im NOT a redditor. I hate fags. Trans are demented freaks. But hey guess what. Religion sucks! Its not suddenly cool and based. Its fucking retarded.
>>532604332That image is 300kb though
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>>532605583Atheism doesn't claim "God cannot exist." It simply means "I don't believe your God claim."That's not a positive assertion about the universe. It's the rejection of one. The default position until evidence is provided.Gnostic atheism (claiming certainty no God exists) is rare and usually as dogmatic as theism. Most atheists are simply agnostic atheists: no belief, no claim of absolute knowledge.As for the golf analogy, bad one.If golf clubs were constantly trying to insert themselves into schools, laws, politics, and culture while demanding special privileges and telling everyone else how to live, then yes, people would talk about golf a lot.Religion isn't a harmless hobby. It influences policy, education, morality, and has been used to justify wars, oppression, and control for centuries. When believers try to legislate their faith or shame non-believers, people push back.Most atheists don't spend their days "mocking believers." They just refuse to pretend along with the fairy tale. The loud ones you notice are reacting to constant religious overreach.
>>532605583>which is a definitive claim about something that by its very nature may be unknowable or unprovableThe existence of a first cause has always been easily proven. The only difficulty is in helping people learn how to trust reason and logic over their fallible senses. Logic dictates that nothing comes from nothing, meaning there absolutely must be a first cause, and that first cause must possess life and mind in order to have created life and mind. Logical axioms are infallible, but it's hard for people who place all of their trust on sense-data to follow logic to its conclusion, which is why they lean towards disbelief in a first cause. It's like trying to explain the Monty Hall problem to somebody who doesn't understand math. It's objectively proven, there's no doubt about it, they just can't see it.
Religion is the perfect mind virus. "Everything will be perfect is you believe. But if you don't, then... oh boy..."
>>532605798>The existence of a first cause has always been easily provenNo shit. What the actual cause is, is unknown
>>532605772what do you meani thought objective morality didn't existsounds to me like you're a cultural christian in denial
>>532605898>objective moralityDemonstrate it. Remember that objective means absent your personal feelings and opinions
>>532602017>Carl Sagan>the guy who called atheists very stupidlol
>>532605798The "first cause" argument is ancient philosophical cope that falls apart the second you apply it honestly.You claim "nothing comes from nothing" so there must be a first cause with mind and life. Fine. Then who or what caused that first cause? If it can exist without a cause, then the universe or quantum fluctuations can too. You just granted the exception to your own rule and called it "God." That's special pleading, not logic.Your "infallible axioms" are circular: you assume the universe needs a mind to create minds, then define the first cause as that mind. It's begging the question dressed up as deep thought.People don't reject it because they "trust senses over reason." They reject it because it's an unproven assertion that adds an even more complex entity (an eternal conscious being) to explain complexity, without explaining where that being came from.It's not Monty Hall. It's claiming "I can't explain this, therefore magic man did it" and then acting superior for it.The honest position isn't "God is proven." It's "we don't know yet, and slapping 'God' on the unknown doesn't make you wise." Your logic isn't infallible. It's just comforting.
>>532605490>Might as well eat and smear shit tooNo thanks.They believe it's a good a righteous thing, and I will hear them out as they explain it.Just because I'm willing to listen doesn't mean I agree with them. Have to come down on the side of the Orthodox Christians relating to things like this.To know God one must study his handiwork, and to understand God begins with the careful examination of the world He has wrought. Wherever that goes, it goes, and we just have to deal with it.
>>532602017>because an astronaut in the Artemis mission quotes Christs commandment to love each otherKek, how would that part even be religious really. That's just the underlying philosophy which can still work entirely detached from the religious aspect. It's not like he was lecturing about the holy trinity or any of that stuff.As if someone lost their marbles because you said>Thou shalt not kill
>>532605781humans are not all knowingyou have faith in your senses (eyes, ears, etc) to tell you what's around youif jesus appeared in front of you right now, you would say: "i'm hallucinating, i've gone insane, this is a trick from advanced alien technology">"For we were saved in this hope, but hope that is seen is not hope; for why does one still hope for what he sees"- Romans 8:24you simply do not want to be christian, you do not want to obey the teachings or have hope that those who do will be rewarded, while those who don't will be punished
>>532605772>Suddenly christ is cool man! Im seeing it all over the internet currently.It was like this when I was in high school from 99-03. It was a cool click. This happens throughout history. One extreme begetting the other in a non-stop cycle.
>>532605856It doesn't matter "what" it is, because we know "how" it is. A first cause is by nature pregnant of many attributes. We know it would have to be the author of logic, reason, truth, justice and every other immutable virtue, and so we also know that our lives improve as we align ourselves with those immutable virtues. That's what it means to worship something. An honest man who loves goodness is worshiping the first cause. A dishonest man who disregards goodness worships himself. Everyone worships something, because worship simply means "prioritize" or "put first". There isn't anyone who doesn't worship, so a good life is determined by the choice to worship what's truly good, which would be those aforementioned qualities that can only have come from a first cause.
>>532605898No i just think its disgusting and gross. I think morality is pretty basic concept to understand without needing retarded thousand yearold books. I genuinely cant find anyone with similar ideas right now. Its either redditor faggot atheist. Or based right wing chud who suddenly loves CHRIST man. And its pissing me offffffff!
>>532606103>those who do will be rewardedKek. Such a fast food/theme park religion
>>532606129>because we know "how" it is.We don't. You can presuppose, but that's all you'll do.
>>532606103I don't have faith in what I sense, I just sense it.
>>532605781>Atheism doesn't claim "God cannot exist." It simply means "I don't believe your God claim."Atheism is an opinion. Gotcha.
>>532605781>Atheism doesn't claim "God cannot exist." It simply means "I don't believe your God claim."Bullshit. If that were the case, atheism wouldn't mean anything. Even religious people would be atheists, because there are thousands of different religions, and many of them openly reject the gods of other faiths.Atheism means the complete rejection of the possibility of God's existence. It is the only definition that makes sense. If that weren't the case, a child raised by wolves who learned nothing about humans would be considered an "atheist", which is completely ridiculous since they don't even know what we're talking about.In fact, atheism is not merely the denial of a specific God, or even of all the gods of all religions... it's the denial of any possibility of the existence of any conceivable or imaginable God.
>>532606004>Then who or what caused that first cause?Nothing did, because the first cause is outside of time itself. It's the cause of time, meaning it cannot be subject to time. These ancient philosophical arguments absolutely do not "fall apart". The issue here is that you don't understand them at all. You would have to be insanely conceited to think that men who were infinitely smarter than you simply never thought to ask "what caused the first cause?". A first cause by definition is uncaused, because there can be no such thing as an infinite regression. Uncaused, eternal and "outside of time" are all different ways of describing something that is perfect. And a first cause would absolutely need to be perfect, because whatever's the most simple(partless) is also the most perfect due to having no dependencies.
>>532605667>he's not an atheist, he must believe that all people who ever slip up end up burning in hell foreverEven if I were a Christian, that is a retarded marxnigger's way of viewing Christianity. Show me a single relevant Atheist thought leader or organisation that isn't advocating jewish values to the world.
>>532606103A few miracles would really help.
>>532602017>atheismThey wouldn't say anything if he praised Allah, it's satanism.
>>532606279>Atheism is an opinion. Gotcha.Yup. You almost get it.
>>532606131the pagan whites didn't think it was disgusting and grossthe atheist whites don' think it is either the muslims think it's okay to have multiple wives, some of which are 9 year old childrenthe native americans thought it was okay to perform human sacrificesthe jeets think it's okay to smear and eat cow shit (religion established by ancient aryan whites btw)there is no such thing as "common sense"your definition of a "good moral character" is the christian one
>>532606103You're simply too afraid to admit that the dogma hammered into your young, impressionable mind at a young age might be worthless.
>>532606218There isn't a single presupposition in my post. You just aren't capable of arguing against it.
>>532602955So are browns the pagans closest to European paganism.
>>532606405>There isn't a single presupposition in my postYou presuppose your favorite flavor of god is the first cause >You just aren't capable of arguing against it.Sure I can, it's a presupposition based on personal feelings and opinions
>>532605622all of the people saying they went from happy and excited to feeling blind with rage and feeling literally compelled to turn off the broadcast when they heard Christs name specifically is surreal
>>532606380>the pagan whites didn't think it was disgusting and grossWith the sole exception of highly regulated and ritualised erotic pederasty in some poleis and the Theban faggot soldiers, faggotry was ridiculed and scorned everywhere.
>>532606473>You presuppose your favorite flavor of god is the first causeI literally didn't. Go back and re-read my post. No matter what the first cause is, the first cause is the author of logic. Logic is al I care about, because logic is what leads to good, honest, compassionate behavior.>Sure I can, it's a presupposition based on personal feelings and opinionsYou can't, because I never mentioned feelings or opinions. I mentioned objective reasoning. Your only out here is to now claim that objective reasoning doesn't exist. But if you make that claim, you're admitting that you're wrong and that everything you've posted is devoid of reason or certainty. So basically, you just checkmated yourself.
>>532602017>As soon as he said Christ I shut down the videoThat's how I know my God is real. There is power in the Name of Christ. Ever seen "The Thing"? Remember the part where they're using hot metal to detect the presence of the Thing in each other's blood, and the possessed sample leapt up when the metal was dipped in it? That's how the Name of Jesus Christ works on the demons inhabiting people. They can't bear it. Christ is King.
>>532602017>/atheism is absolutely losing their shit because an astronaut in the Artemis mission quotes Christs commandment to love each otherto be fair, most christfags in this country are going to be alright with trump gazaing iran, so you knowfuck em
>>532606291>it's the denial of any possibility of the existence of any conceivable or imaginable God.An Absolutist position. There is no God, or anything even remotely resembling what we would call God. Honest atheists lead with this and I respect it. The question, in my personal opinion, is that of 'Initiating Event'. Big Bang or God's Will. Physics and Chemistry or Grand Design.
>>532606622>>You presuppose your favorite flavor of god is the first cause>I literally didn'tOh so you admit you don't know what th3 first cause is then?>>532606622>You can't, because I never mentioned feelings or opinionsSee above
>>532602017they fell for the atheism psyop, what did you expect?
>>532602017>giving attention to people mentally stuck as 2008 internet trolls
>>532606380Wtf am I supposed to do with this information? Sorry bro, I dont like fags and I hate religion. Im not worried about pagan whites and native Americans and blah blah blah. I think a guy that wants to put his penis into a hairy mans butthole and completely ignore women is gross and weird and I avoid being around him if possible. I also avoid deeply religious people because its super fucking weird to me.
>>532606622>>Sure I can, it's a presupposition based on personal feelings and opinions>You can't, because I never mentioned feelings or opinionsThen you say>>532606726>The question, in my personal opinion, is that of 'Initiating Event'.Kek
>>532606304>Nothing did, because the first cause is outside of time itself.The whole quantum bubble in superspace bullshit claims the same thing for the superspace.
>>532606338Atheism isn't a collective its a single answer to a single collection the fact you want to lump me in with every other atheist is because your retarded cultist brain only works on thoughts of us and them team sports.I dont care what other atheists believe or advocate for they arent my problem, they dont speak for me.
>>532606885Exactly this
>>532606656>They can't bear it. Christ is King.This anon has a point, modern reprobates have no problem pouring all their hate and bile of Christ and the Bible, but seem strangely passive when the issue of Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, Wicca, The Old Gods, and Mormonism. Even when some of these faiths would be more than happy to kill them all for the content of their character.
>>532603790Almost everything you said was profoundly retarded from even a scientific point of view.No wonder atheists got laughed off the internet.The funniest part is that a great many of the actual greatest scientists ever believed in a creator.
>>532606780I honestly believe atheism is some sort of disability, its like you lack "that" thing, that extra sense that lets you understand many unexplainable things in this world.
>>532606765I know that the first cause must be synonymous with truth because it can't be divorced from truth, and that reason is the only tool that leads to truth. That's all anyone needs to know, because that's enough to begin living a righteous life. There can be no such thing as a "flavor" of God for the same reason there can be no such thing as a flavor of Truth. Something is either true or it's not. It's objective. Opinions have no place in reality.
>>532606131>>532605772are you a woman lmaoeither chatgpt or a woman is my guess
>>532607045been there, done that. i suspect it's the fluoride in the water.
>>532607051>I know that the first cause must be synonymous with truth because it can't be divorced from truth,And truth is unfaithful >>532607051>There can be no such thing as a "flavor" of GodBut there is. Even in your religion. >Something is either true or it's not. It's objective. Opinions have no place in reality.And truth, again, is unfaithful
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>>532606622My fault, disregard this>>532606825I mixed the IDs, my fault and I apologize
>>532602139no. It was the NCAA basketball championship and this is the first time I've ever missed it.
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>>532606861But it can't make that claim because that violates logical axioms. An effect absolutely cannot possess a quality that its cause didn't already possess. Meaning from that point they either have to admit that "superspace" possesses life and mind, which would be the same as them admitting that superspace is God, or they need to argue that human beings don't possess life or mind. There's no atheistic way to honestly argue in favor of a first cause, it always leads to hypocrisy when somebody tries to claim that the universe is without a mind capable of authoring order.
>>532607156>God is a figment of the imagination Lmao>>532607180You're not going to like what this study actually says.You are proof that you copy memes from ither morons without reading the source lol
>>532607058Why do you think this? Why is this opinion so bizarre to you? I dont geddit
>>532607213Again, you didn't actually read this study
>>532607141No, truth is the epitome of faith. The word faith comes from the Greek word "pistis", which means "trust in the evidence". Faith is built on evidence and knowledge. It's never blind. Belief without knowledge is called superstition, not faith.
>>532602017Reddit is so full of delusional fantasy world faggots it’s unreal
>>532607271stay mad, unevolved tranny
>>532607423What if I hate venus for not giving me a gf
>>532607483Proverbs 19:3New King James Version3 The foolishness of a man twists his way,And his heart frets against the Lord.
>>532607483>What if I hate [Venus] for not giving me a gf.Didn't capitalize Her divine name.Not going to get anything with that kind of casual disrespect. Make sure your altar is in order and try again.I've included a basic check-list of common offerings. Hope this helps.
>>532602017>2026>grown men still still seething at someone's faith and thinking not believing in God somehow impresses others and makes them edgy
>>532607314>No, truth is the epitome of faithDisagree as faith is thr absence of logic and reason.What you're describing is reasonable expectations.
>>532607420You don't read the shit you post. Lol
>>532606991Thank you. Yes, it's a very obvious thing to observe, how every other religion not only seems to get a pass from those who recoil at the name of Jesus Christ, but they seem to welcome these faiths in, despite being explicitly warned of the dangers they pose, because it's more important to them that they destroy Christians than whatever harm they may incur, themselves, as a result - essentially accepting their own annihilation as a means to an end they won't be around to reach. In short, to use the cliche, "cutting off their noses to spite their faces," seems rather accurate here. It seems baffling at first to imagine how so many people would be willing to poison their own societies and put their own necks on the chopping block (sometimes literally), and even more baffling, still, that they don't pause for a second to consider how their actions may harm the people around them, up to and including children . . . until you look at things through the lens of faith in Jesus Christ. When you put on the glasses, you see quite clearly what's causing this: Satanic forces taking hold in people who reject Christ, filling the increasingly vast void He previously occupied. Some people may not believe in God or Satan, but they certainly believe in (You), and if we neglect to allow God to take control of our lives and guide us, then Satan will, without fail, occupy that vacancy.That there are so many in the world who suddenly lose their minds when they hear the Name of Christ is proof of how much power Satan currently has over it. It's proof of where we currently are in the timeline of Scripture. Things will assuredly become much worse and much more dangerous for Christians, but as much as I fear for what lies ahead, every encroachment, violation, act of violence, etc. committed against us by other people and government bodies, the more affirmative it is that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. Only my God is 100% accurate in His prophecies.
>flying into a frothing atheist ragevery jewish and brown coded
>>532603316Well put fellow evanghater
>>532602017Atheists must be a jewish plant, even more than christians.They have energy to complain about this irrelevant shit but don’t dare to complain about Israel’s holy wars.
>>532607802Faith is the culmination of logic and reason. Anything that lacks logic can't be faith, and any belief that's not founded on knowledge can't be a genuine conviction, it can only be a prejudice.But whether or not we agree on that point isn't important. The crux here is whether or not goodness, honesty, compassion, dispassion and selflessness are objective, timeless and worth pursuing. If you would say that they are, then you "worship" the same God that I do, you simply refuse to call it God. Which is fine. I don't care what an honest man calls his honesty so long as he's honest. If you would say that honesty doesn't exist, then it stands to reason that you aren't capable of being honest, which would render any further discussion meaningless.
>>532602681https://old.reddit.com/r/ArtemisProgram/comments/1see4uc/artemis_ii_message_to_humanity/FTFY ZoomZoom
>>532608206go and hold up a cross in front of a jewstand in front of him and hold a cross to his face and come back and tell me that Christianity is a jewish plant
>>532608216>Faith is the culmination of logic and reasonReasonable expectations yes, not religious faith >>532608216>The crux here is whether or not goodness, honesty, compassion, dispassion and selflessness are objectiveCan you demonstrate they are?
>>532603334Agios O Satanas
>>532602017>r/atheism is absolutely losing their shit because an astronaut in the Artemis mission quotes Christs commandment to love each other, now they are going as far as organizing raids on other subreddits to flood them with anti christian comments "Look guys! These internet weirdos are actually how atheists are! Hurrrdurr!"So tiresome
>>532602017The nigger gave a long Christian speech, it wasn't just a small comment about loving one another. He was babbling about how God made earth as a spaceship for his creation.
>>532608389>Can you demonstrate they are?Yes, I can. All of those aforementioned qualities are actually just one quality, which is objectivity itself. A selfless man judges without considering whether or not his judgements benefit him. A compassion man considers what's best for others without considering what's best for himself. A dispassionate man has a clear mind that isn't clouded by personal desires or passion. An honest man sticks to the truth as well as he knows it, whether or not the truth benefits him personally. Each of these are simply different ways of showing that a person is behaving objectively, which means keeping himself in line with reality by removing the delusions of selfishness and greed. It means living in truth, seeing clearly, knowing thyself and reality itself. And since reality and truth are necessarily objective, it's necessary that these qualities would also be objective. Whether or not somebody is telling the truth, for example, could never be an opinion. Either what he said aligns with the truth or it does not. There's no room for subjectivity there. It's binary. 1 or 0, therefore objective. The same goes for selfishness and selflessness, or cruelty and compassion, or any other virtue and its counterpart vice.
>>532608598>1 minute 30 seconds>long- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdgsAtjrxq4the absolute state of brainrotted zoomers
>>532607857>to consider how their actions may harm the people around them, up to and including childrenThis. The satanic desire to surgically mutilate children and call it 'Gender Affirming Care' is all I need to prove Evil exists, and flourishes in the absence of Good. My faith was never a guiding force in my life. I was just a social, or cultural, Catholic when I was growing up. Now? Faith must be real, and a powerful thing, if so many hate it so much and are willing to go to such great lengths to destroy it. >Negative Hypothesis. Assume the Gospels are divine truth given to mankind by God.What would the world look like if Satan was also real and waging war against The Faith in order to overthrow His divine order?
>>532606726>An Absolutist positionIt has to be that way, otherwise, atheism would be merely a specific case of skepticism, and thus something that lacks even the substance to be discussed.Notice that the definition given by that fag is so flawed that even a Christian who believes in God could be considered an atheist. These absurdities arise when atheists try to pretend they are merely skeptics, which, as I said, simply doesn't work, because when they use this argument, they strip atheism of its meaning to such an extent that even religious fanatics could be considered atheists.
>>532609045and btw, he was clearly prompted by NASA / the interviewer anywayin reference to pascha to less and in reference to the fact that there's a tradition of christian messages, such as quoting genesis during last christmas
>>532608598Based. Demons shriek every time. It's well documented.
>>532608905>Yes, I can. All of those aforementioned qualities are actually just one quality, which is objectivity itselfOK, still waiting for you to demonstrate it.Because what you're really describing I'd contextual. And if these things are based around cintext then they are, by nature, subjective.An exampme would be lying. Lying in the context to save lives is a good thing. Or, Lying in the context of suspense.can be a good thing. An example would be telling my wife I forgot to get her a gift for her birthday, when really I planned a nice gift but wanted it to be full of surprise, absent expectations. Again, context is what matters
>>532609212Sorry for the typos, phone posting
>>532602139fpbp
>>532609096>What would the world look like if Satan was also real and waging war against The Faith in order to overthrow His divine order?Well, we don't have to imagine, do we, sir?
>>532609096>This. The satanic desire to surgically mutilate children and call it 'Gender Affirming Care'but apparently circumcision is fine
>>532607255There are no effects, because there is no time. Not merely in the superspace, but in the bubble too.All there is, is the wavefunction. All knowing, all powerful, amoral. A giant load of nothing mattering and both time and life being a completely illusionary effect in the brain of a brane.
>>532609284wtf
>>532609364Don't get it bent, the trend of circumcision in America is nothing more than the product of well-poisoning by the enemy, a humiliation ritual not unlike tagging the ears of cattle.
>>532607207Basketball is gay>>532607802I have faith the sun will rise every morning based purely on logic and reason. That's not at all the definition of faith.
>>532609600>I have faith the sun will rise every morning based purely on logic and reasonThat's a reasonable expectation.
>>532602017Who cares what athiests think? They cant even make it out of their chairs.
christians (and jews) worship the demiurge>thou shall not kill and love each another>one chapter later>oops I mean kill every man, woman and child in this land
>>532602017HAPPENING!!!!!!CHRISTIANSINSPACEARELITERALLYBOILINGDEMONICATHETISTSBLOODINTHEIRVEINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>532609096You practice circumcisionYou torment children by telling them that will get burned eternally if they don't show allegiance to israel and a rabbiYou tell children they go to hell if they don't forgive any abuse your deranged mind comes up withEven now your christian country is bombing schools and cities and childrenFuck off you religious narcissist
>>532609364>but apparently circumcision is fineThat's a jewish thing.Think it through. There is a reason there is part of the Bible called The NEW Testament. >>532609358>Well, we don't have to imagine,kek.
>>532609755>the demiurgesee >>532605682>thou shall not kill*murderas in, illegally>kill every man, woman and childyes, the amalekites were enemies of god
>>532602017>It honestly depresses me that religion is still so prevalent in the year 2026 and among scientists. Let me guess, they feel as if the fact that someone or some people in the scientific community mentioned Christ ruined or debunked the common atheist argument that science was somehow created by atheists and that religious people can't believe in science and that science disproves God?
>>532609907>Hides flag to talk shitThis indicates the user has much more baggage than anyone they're dumping on and is too cowardly to reveal their geo for fear of humiliation.
>>532602673Sure. Gender dysphoria is caused by bipolar mothers. I respect that.
>>532604254Based on the etymology you are incorrect.Atheism is the absence of religion (particularly organized religion) (a - without; theism - religion) Agnosticism is the belief that the answer of god’s existence is unknowable (a - without; gnosticism - knowledge/knowing)
>>532609992>That's a jewish thing>21 And when eight days were completed [a]for the circumcision of the Child, His name was called Jesus, the name given by the angel before He was conceived in the womb.>>532609992>There is a reason there is part of the Bible called The NEW Testament.It forsnt make logical sense that a supposed omniscient being would need a New Testament. His old one wasn't good enough?>>532610072>>kill every man, woman and child>yes, the amalekites were enemies of godPerfect example of how subjective their morality really is
>>532602017I was a militant athiest on youtube when I was younger right then they started and I am pagan now, but knowing that their fucking quoting the BUY-BULL and IMPOSING fucking BUY-BULL verses on us and fucking infringing on our RIGHT to SEXUAL FREEDOM, and general FREEDOM TO DO WHATEVER THE FUCK WE WANT and NO cunt-god telling us anything so we can do drugs if we want to do drugs, watch as muching fucking porn we want to if that is our thing, buy any sex toy we want and fuck whatever moist hole we want thats our FUCKING HUMAN RIGHT!!
>>532610158>Based on the etymology you are incorrectNope>>532610158>Agnosticism is the belief that the answer of god’s existence is unknowableAnd one can be an agnostic theist or agnostic atheist I haven't been convinced of the existence of God or gods. I don't know, with certainty, about their existence but I still am without belief, lacking.
Who gives a fuck what those stupid faggots say it’s a board full of midwits larping as atheists who claim to be all about the science yet believe trannies are real >t. actual atheist
>>532604254>you do not believe in God>you believe there is no GodAs you cannot prove this you must be taking it on faith. Perhaps you prefer "intuition" or "instinct".
>>532602017heh, theyll grow out of it one day
>>532610421>As you cannot prove this you must be taking it on faithNo faith needed. Just convincing evidence and proof. So far none has been able to sway me. >Perhaps you prefer "intuition" or "instinct".Still absent belief in God or gods
>>532610421>As you cannot prove thisI also don't need too. The burden of proof is on the one making the claim.
>>532610180>why was circumcision implementedseveral reasonsfor one, it was to remind them not to be degenerates (fags, race mixers, etc)>"If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell. And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell."- Matthew 5:29-30but mostly, it was a sacrifice. an acknowledgement of god's authority since he is the creator of the world, he can even order abraham to take away the life of his firstborn son, isaac>"All that open the womb are Mine, and every male firstborn among your livestock, whether ox or sheep. But the firstborn of a donkey you shall redeem with a lamb. And if you will not redeem him, then you shall break his neck. All the firstborn of your sons you shall redeem. And none shall appear before Me empty-handed."- Exodus 34:19-20let alone a circumcisionbut that was in accordance to the old lawwith animal sacrifices at the temple, etcgod established a new covenant, through the death and resurrection of jesus, the messiah a sacrifice of the firstborn son of god>"Abraham looked around and saw a ram caught in a bush by its horns. He went and got it and offered it as a burnt offering instead of his son."- Genesis 22:13>"The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. Scripture does not say “and to seeds,” meaning many people, but “and to your seed,” meaning one person, who is Christ."- Galatians 3:16so now we no longer have to keep circumcision physically, but mentally >"Neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything; what counts is the new creation."- Galatians 6:15>"Circumcise your hearts, therefore, and do not be stiff-necked any longer."- Deuteronomy 10:16
>>532610692Again,>>532610180>It doesn't make logical sense that a supposed omniscient being would need a New Testament. His old one wasn't good enough?
>>532609907>You practice circumcision"You" as in me, personally? No."You" as in the Christian West? Not so much."You" as in America up to recent years? The practice is becoming less common year-on-year. Did I personally lose my foreskin at birth? Yep.One of 10,000 reasons to hate jews and jewish influence on western civilization. >You tell children they go to hell if they don't forgive any abuse your deranged mind comes up withNope. Sin is Sin and forgiveness is absolute. Stop projecting your fanfic on me. >Even now your christian countryIt isn't. Not even close. Modern America is about as far from Christian as you can get.It's a madhouse ruled by Zionists, directed by jews. That is the problem. And that nation is doing the same in return.If you have a thoughtful critique of Islam I would happily take the time to read it. >>532609907>Fuck off you (religious) narcissistPot, Kettle.
>>532610827>Nope. Sin is Sin and forgiveness is absolute.Unless it's offending the spook, lol
>>532602017Go back
>>532610692>so now we no longer have to keep circumcision physically, but mentally>>"Neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything; what counts is the new creation.">- Galatians 6:15>>"Circumcise your hearts, therefore, and do not be stiff-necked any longer.">- Deuteronomy 10:16Thanks Anon.I was just now looking for these passages.
>>532602017Carl Sagan wasn't even an atheist, he literally there was no proof proving God didn't exist and vice versa
>>532610181die kike paedotransfaggot!there's place in hell ready for you
>>532607423>the one you hateSo basically you admit it's just contrarianism.You don't really believe in the wizard son of a virgin that walked on water and multiplied food, you just pretend to make le libtards mad.And then christcucks like you go around and call others larpers. lmao
>>532610785>His old one wasn't good enough?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_03HMKuR-wMtl;dr: people weren't following the old one>omniscient he is outside of time. think of it like watching a rerun of a sportsball game on TV.but we have free will. think of it like the sportsball players choosing where and how to kick the ball as they were playing.>inb4 "so he knew people would choose not to follow it, but implemented it anyway? why not implement the new one from the beginning?"he knows what the best possible outcome is, so he guides us to itand either way, it's not for us to demand that god justify himself he's the creator and therefore rightful owner of all creationhe can do whatever he pleases
>>532611821>people weren't following the old oneWouldn't an omniscient being already know that?>>532611821>he knows what the best possible outcome isClearly not or he wouldn't have needed to change his mind so much. Seems like your "God" is a victim of causality, like everyone else
Reminder that the majority of Christians aren't White. The odds are in favor of OP being brown.Christianity is a brown religion and all Christians can do in response to this comment is act snarky and pretend to be edge lords.
>>532612055Most racist white people in human history were all Christian
>>532602017>allergic to jewish storiesbased
>>532612055reminder that majority of pagans and atheists aren't White(i say, in a snarky manner)
>>532612220true colonized by jewstime to wash nigger feet
>>532606291>It is the only definition that makes sense.Atheism as practiced is mostly anti-theism.The thing that the high-school-level intellectualism of anti-theism cannot deal with is that the messy reality of civilization is not actually rational in its dynamics.You can't make a cake with gasoline.
>>532612055die shitskin go and die in shithole country named india
Remember leftards, suicide is always an option
>>532612162Liar. Christian churches have always been used to traffick illegals with brown skin. Look up The Underground Railroad. But you won't, you'll ignore it because you're a spiritual jew who doesn't care about integrity or honesty.>>532612220>European Pagans are exactly the same as jeets! you're a spiritual jew who doesn't care about integrity or honesty.The majority of Christians are brown and all you can do is lie in a weak attempt to cover up the fact that Christianity is Globohomo.
>>532602017if I was an astronaut stuck in a rocket with a ghetto-American and a woman, I'd be finding my spiritual side too.
>>532602139Kek
>>532611993>Wouldn't an omniscient being already know that?No fucking clue about the How, Why, and Therefore. Seriously, I don't fucking know. These things happened, and here we are.Did Lucifer rebel against God and lead a third of the Angels to earth to make war against God's will?I don't have a well reasoned explanation detailing the ins and outs of Scripture.They exist, and It's up to us as individuals to make of it what we can.By the same token the Krebs Cycle is kind of weird, and I've never read a good explanation of why that happened, but we see it all around us every day.Reality is complicated, I'm open to discussing all of it.
>>532612596>point out that most Christians are brown>NO U , UR BROWNThe majority of Christians are brown and all you can do is lie in a weak attempt to cover up the fact that Christianity is Globohomo, because you worship a jew and therefore behave like a jew with no integrity or honesty.
all G/gods are anthropomorphic or zoomorphic metaphors for the unknown.
>>532602687It requires very little effort... I have absolutely zero thoughts about God's or religious shit throughout the day.
>>532612751>liarsee: https://rentry.org/Deus_Vult_NI>traffic illegals see >>532605777>european pagansdo not exist, because christian whites are superior
>>532613045Christianity is state-funded propaganda, no different than Marxism. They pretend to make the two groups fight each other, but they both have the same goal: a brown Globohomo world with a One World Government which rules over all nation states so no one has sovereignty.
>>532613045>covered in blood samples showing signs of someone who suffered extreme torture and blood loss>feet covered in Jerusalem limestone>embedded pollen from area of Levant>linen samples matching ones found at Siege of Masada ~60 AD>2 micrometer thick 3 dimensional imprint on topmost surface layers of linen, that when topographized literally just look like a photograph, far beyond the capabilities of any Renaissance, much less Antiquity, artist to recreate>entire history of Shroud lines up with history of Image of Edessa from the classical east, right down to obscure, tiny details such as specific patterns of burn holes appearing in other Orthodox renditions in the 11th, 9th, earlier centuries. refuting the initial dating to medieval times>early fragments of apocryphal writings quoted by Church Fathers as far back as 200 AD reference Jesus's burial shroud actually being given and moved around by the Church before being hidden and kept safe, establishing historical awareness/precedent of the artifact>the earliest Orthodox icons of Jesus line up exactly with the facial features of the Shroud; the Orthodox icon still used today of Jesus's face lines up exactly with when the original image of Edessa was taken out of its hiding spot and made public again in 554 >wound up being publicly known in France a century and a half after a Crusader reported seeing the shroud of Jesus in Constantinople before it disappeared in the sacking of 1204>only recreated a few years ago, in a laser lab where an incredibly intense, short burst of laser/radiation copied the already known information from the shroud to copy it>God literally took a photograph in 1st century AD so His Church would have His face for the icons
>>532613213>globohomosee >>532602771>>532606380
>>532602547>If you take anything from Gen Z, take solace that we are more lobotomized by jewsWonderful.
>>532602139FPBP
>>532613358https://rumble.com/v4jcdor-leaked-audio-of-adl-chief-johnathan-greenblatt-we-have-a-tiktok-problem.html
>>532609212You asked whether or not qualities such as honesty are objective, which I did demonstrate. Reality and truth are objective, thus whether or not somebody speaks truth is objective. Whether or not honesty is good without qualification/context is a separate question, to which I would answer that honesty is good when it's backed by reason and the desire to be objective. Somebody who's only honest because he thinks he'll get a reward is not good. And somebody who tells the truth for the sake of doing harm is not good. Honesty is only virtuous when the truth is held to selflessly. Or to put it in another way, there's nothing that prevents an undercover investigator from also being an honest man. He knows the truth and loves the truth and lives in the truth, and is only employing untruths for the sake of doing right. But it is an objective fact that he does employ untruths, which means truth/untruth are objective qualities that exist immutably.
Why are all atheists so fucking obnoxious?
>>532609402Then you're rejecting cause and effect entirely, which means you're rejecting reason itself. Which goes back to what I said initially, which is that it's impossible for an atheist to be logical. Atheism is built on the rejection of logic, the rejection of cause and effect. Because reason itself infallibly leads to a universal constant of the Good.
>>532602017Reminded me of the movie Contact...
>>532613045All gods are emanations of the prime mover
>>532613466You worship a jew. You name your children after jews. You teach them jew fables instead of your own history and culture. Many of you even insist that you actually are jews. And your religion is the sole reason jews still exist.
>>532613172>opinion pollsMean nothing. Look at what people do vs what they say. Christians are lying two faced jew wannabes. Christians would rather have a brown Christian Europe vs a White Pagan or Atheist Europe. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underground_Railroad>The Underground Railroad was an organized network of secret routes and safe houses for fugitive slaves to escape>Allies>Religious Society of Friends>Congregational church>Wesleyan Church>Reformed Presbyterian Church of North America>The stations were often located in basements, barns, churches>In New Spain, fugitive slaves were recognized as humans. They were allowed to join the Catholic Church and marry.All the illegal immigrant spics crossing the US border are Catholic and Christians will always side with them over White non-Christians. Only Christian propagandists on /pol/ will claim otherwise.
>>532613559>Why are all atheists so fucking obnoxious?Short answer; narcissistic children who think about a thing and assume they are right by the power of their opinions. Shorter Answer; Muh Feelz
>>532602409Desperation drives faith, and in desperate situations, all humans look for hope beyond themselvesFuck you Atheists
>>532602139Perfect fucking response. I've always been an atheist and used to be this fervent in my teens. Now that I'm nearly 40, I just don't give a fuck. Whatever helps them go through life.
>>532613763>you worship a jewjesus's Y chromosome comes from the fatherand he wasn't a talmudic kabbalist either (books which weren't written until 600 years after Christ)>"Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.” Then [the jews] took up stones to [kill] Him [...]"- John 48-49he's not "a jew", he's god
>>532613001>No fucking clue about the How, Why, and Therefore. Seriously, I don't fucking know.I appreciate the honesty >These things happenedYou believe they happened >>532613496>You asked whether or not qualities such as honesty are objective, which I did demonstrateYou demonstrated context. And I gave examples of how subjective context is
>>532602614Abrahamic religions actually emerged from the most fertile land on earth, the fertile cresant.There are deserts around it, just as there are snow deserts in Nordic countries.
>>532613658>Reminded me of the movie Contact...The book 'Contact' should, and one day will, be considered of of the greatest woks of Christian Philosophy written in the 20th century.There is a reason the movie is what it is.
>>532613940>Desperation drives faithAnd religion is there to profit off it
>>532614099You should move to the Middle East where jewsus comes from. You're a probably a shitskin and will blend right in.
>>532614104>You believe they happenedFair point.Taken.
>>532613763>jew fables instead of your own history according to Christian Identity, the original hebrews were whitelinks here:- https://rentry.org/Deus_Vult>your religion is the sole reason jews still existthe pagans considered the god of the Old Testament as one of their own- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caelus#Jewish_syncretismand when they briefly came to power and b& christianity, they attempted to rebuild the third temple- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_(emperor)
>>532614290>according to Christian Identity, the original hebrews were white
>>532607207It happens. Just suck at least one BBC to atone for your sins against cuckold culture.
>>532613763the reason kikes exist, is because they were rescued by (jewish) freemasons and (jewish) communists, against the christian armies of hitler - https://rentry.org/Deus_Vult_KA
>>532614290>Christian Identity shillPottery. White people wuz da real jews n shieeeeeeet!
>>532613803>Christians would rather have a brown Christian Europe vs a White Pagan or Atheist Europefalse dichotomywe've burned pagans / atheists while keeping niggers in chains >truth means nothing
>>532614104>You demonstrated contextNo, I demonstrated that honesty is an objective quality, which is what you asked for. A statement is either true or false, depending on whether or not it accurately represents reality. Since reality is objective, honesty is objective. The thing you're now asking is whether or not it's a good thing to state the truth, which is a question that's entirely separate from whether or not honesty exists. Yes, your second question does introduce context, and context is important. But context does not undermine anything I've said, because context has no bearing on whether or not a person is beneficent or malicious. A beneficent person is good in any context, and a malicious person is bad in any context. In the correct context, a beneficent person can lie, can steal, and can even kill, all while being morally righteous.
>>532605401/pol/ has been virulently reddit atheist for ages now, yet you fags still insist on acting like the persecuted minority. Anyone who acts like either Christians or Atheists are the overwhelming majority on here are delusional retards with a victim complex.The only common denominator is that we all want an anonymous place to discuss shit that isn't really tolerated anywhere else and a vague bias towards the right. Everything else is variable.
>>532614359>the original hebrews were whiteSome of them must have been, all the way back to Esau.
>>532614099He was a jew. He was born to jew parents and never once claimed at any point in his life that he wasn't a jew. Nor have any christian religious authorities ever denied that he was a jew. You're also pre-supposing that the jew "messiah" myth is true. The only reality you are physically capable of imagining is the fake jew one. Turns out my use of the word lobotomized was accurate.
>>532614237if the middle easterners invented christianity, how come the middle easterners reject it
>>532614584Is Ben Shapiro paying you, TPUSA shill behind a proxy?https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=94hQJfz9z1k>Ben Shapiro donated $1M to TPUSA to "bring people back to Christ, the Church, and biblical values"
>>532602017people who identify as atheist are just as bad as religionfags, either believe or don't, stop annoying other people about it
>>532611821>it's not for us to demand that god justify himself >he's the creator and therefore rightful owner of all creation>he can do whatever he pleasesWhy do christians willingly say stuff like this? It's basically admitting they don't actually know anything.What a fucking convenient way to disregard anybody questioning your deity. "Oh yeah well he just does what he wants....uhhhh he doesn't need reason...."
>>532614704They gaslight on purpose because they can only win a debate when their opposition is angry and upset which clouds ones thinking. They can't win a calm, rational debate so they purposely irritate. Christian propaganda is literally agitprop.
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>>532602017reminder that even redditors are less retarded than 99% of the faggots on this board who spent the past 10 years sucking zion don's dick while screeching about jews every day
>>532614390They had already been getting rescued for centuries by christians before then. It was the same story all across Europe over and over again.>jews do jew things>regular people get pissed off and want to kill them>christian monarchs and the clergy tell everyone to simmer down and merely expel them to the next kingdom over>once people calm down they're invited back>repeat
>>532614674they're just doing pro-zionist propagandaif shapiro wanted his followers to become christian, he would convert - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuGAzFyHiwY
>>532612220Chinese is a religion?
>>532614616>No, I demonstrated that honesty is an objective qualityLet's test that. A group of religious zealots is about to kill your family in front of you. They spare your life and offer an ultimatum on your family. Verbally confess you accept their God and put faith in it or they kill your family. No questions, they simply let them go unharmed if you profess your love and faith for their God and if you refuse then they die horribly infront of you. Do you lie to save your family?
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>>532614654There are still plenty of christian sand niggers. And the rest converted to another jew offshoot.
>>532614630>Some of them must have beenBut they weren't. There was also no Exodus of Hebrews from Egypt either
>>532615019and here's what the pagans did>>532614290and what the atheists did
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>>532602017Crazy to think that almost every scientist until the last century was religious one way or another and that was seen as the norm, but now fedora plebbitors will get a stroke if one of them dares to mention God in a not-mocking way. The brainwashing is real.
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>>532615080>they simply let them go unharmed if you profess your love and faith for their God and if you refuse then they die horribly infront of you. Do you lie to save your family?Heh. Good description of the history of Islam. I've never seen that happen in Alabama but you can watch it on video from Gaza and Syria.
>>532614654Because Christianity was designed to be controlled opposition to judiasm. Rabbi lawyers designed it that way on purpose. There's so much evidence for this that your only coping response is to use Christian Identity to claim Whites are the original jews.Christian Identity is also a literal fed psyop created by the (((British Crown))).
>>532602139/thread
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>>532613358Cringe
>>532615281until the end of the last century*
>>532613763Cringe
>>532614635Cringe
>>532615041>if shapiro wanted his followers to become christian, he would convertShapiro is literally spending millions of dollars to promote Christianity and is saying it on camera and you have the gall to deny it because you are a pathetic shill who's only purpose is to agitate to shut down any real discussion.
>>532615298>Heh. Good description of the history of Islam.Indeed. Even now they are the most barbaric
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>>532615019Cringe
>>532615154Cringe
>>532615471what discussion?if you wanna perform pagan chicken sacrifices in the local forest, go right ahead here's your bibles- https://sacred-texts.com/have at it
>>532602017Atheists are the biggest losers on earth and Christianity is the true religion so it’s not a surprise that they seethe. Its really obvious that god exists anyway, trivially obvious really
>>532602017This is pretty funny considering Artemis is le pagang goddess and astroniggers are all pedophile freemason satanists and frauds
>>532615207>what the pagans did
>>532615158>But they weren't.Says (You). I assume you were there and had a look around before the Roman Expulsion in 236(?) AD. Seriously, definitive statements about shit we really don't know?
>>532615641>Christianity is the true religionWhich brand?
>>532615580Ben Shapiro promotes Christianity because Israel only exists from Christian support. Christians and jews are allies and both openly brag about it.
>>532615683>Says (You)Nah, history and DNA/archaeological evidence
>>532615546>made the kike seethe this hardI'm honored.
>>532613592The first cause needs no cause according to you. Quantum mechanics is simply more beautiful than god, since it needs no effect either. The wavefunction simply is, how can anything be more perfect than that? The embodiment of all that's possible.Anything less than that would be less perfect, thus it can not be the first cause. QED.
>>532615080I don't think you're understanding what I'm saying. "Objective quality" does not mean "choiceworthy without qualification". Even if I were to say that it's a good thing to lie in order to save my family, a lie would still be a lie. It would be an objective fact that I told a lie. Whether or not that was a good lie to tell is a separate question from whether or not it was a lie. Whether or not a statement I make is true or false is objective, thus whether or not I'm being honest is objective, thus honesty is an objective quality. I honestly don't think it can be made any more clear than that, so if you still don't understand then it might be the case that your command of the English language isn't sufficient to carry on the conversation. I mean that sincerely and with no disrespect.
>>532602547You didnt grow up with the church pedomaxxing, being caught pedomaxxing, and still having insane near theocratic level of control over people's lives particularly infriging on women's rights. All while being defended by boomers and their parent's generation using the most retarded logic ever. Christianity has definitely taken a back seat in the west over the past 20 years though. All that's basically left are 90 year olds, tithed retards, cult victims, browns and blacks. Everyone else has just moved on from organised Christianity thank fuck.
>>532615696>"Now John answered and said, “Master, we saw someone casting out demons in Your name, and we forbade him because he does not follow with us.”But Jesus said to him, “Do not forbid him, for he who is not against us is on our side.”"- Luke 9:49-50
>>532614186the problem with truth is, in order for it to mean anything it has to be in your experience. Otherwise you’re just believing what someone else is saying. I can tell you that from personal experience, God exists. And it’s so laughably obvious that God exists. But to see the obvious you have to still the mind. That’s why all those christian and buddhist monks, and yogis and native americans and so on practice various forms of meditation.Now I can tell you all that, but until you see for yourself it’s a load of shit. Whether or not you care to embark on the journey is up to you, all I can say is it’s the only thing worth looking for
>>532615716>Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either; he who acknowledges the Son has the Father also."- 1 John 2:23>"[Jesus said to the jews:] You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it."- John 8:44>"Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee."- Revelation 3:9the bible calls the jews the sons of ishmael, and the Christians the sons of shem.- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKlT-hhZXoM&t=658s
>>532602017TOTAL ABRAHAMIC RELIGIONIGGER & ATHEISM DEATH
>>532615854Christianity is very feminist once you see past surface level scripture. It removes the man from the head of the household and places Jesus there instead, and many men have complained that their wives held the Bible over their head to control them. I mean Christians worship a Jewish woman who cheated on her husband and said God inseminated her and everybody believed her and cheered. It doesn't get much more feminist than that
>>532615828>Quantum mechanicshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rsoVh13Y7Q
>>532615949here's your attempts to "restore paganism", you who would crucify Christ >resistance in the frankish realm (6th century)occasional revolts, no meaningful attempts to overthrow christianity.>Eadbald of kent (616-640)after his father's death, he denounced christianity, expelled the priests, and went back to pagan practices.a few years later he changed his mind, and went back to being a christian.>Wilduking, saxon rebellions (772-804)pagan revolutionaries repeatedly destroyed churches and worshiped "the old gods". the rebellions were crushed, followed by mass executions, and the rebellion leader Wilduking converted to christiantiy.>Vladimir Rasare (889–893)his father came out of retirement (from a monastery), gathered loyal soldiers and deposed him. blinded him, and threw him in a dungeon. before retiring back to his monetary, he put in charge his youngest son Simeon (who was being trained to become a priest), which started the bulgarian golden age.>scandinavian revolts (10th-11th century AD)cultist rebellions put down by kings Harald Bluetooth, Olaf I & II. christian military victories on land and sea.>volkhv uprising in russia (1024-1071)pagan druids/volkhv demand a return to paganism. put down by princely forced, leaders executed.>Blot-Sweyn of sweden (1084–1087)deposed the christian king Inge the elder, because he refused to perform pagan sacrifices. Inge returned with an army and killed Sweyn by burning him alive.
>>532615946>cherry picking Bible verses You're not even human.Ben Shapiro promotes Christianity because Israel only exists from Christian support. Christians and jews are allies and both openly brag about it.
>>532615930>I can tell you that from personal experience, God exists.And I believe that you honestly believe that. >Whether or not you care to embark on the journey is up to youI have >all I can say is it’s the only thing worth looking for.To you
>>532616004>"I will not suffer a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety."- 1 Timothy 2:12-15>"Let your women keep silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak; but they are to be submissive, as the law also says. And if they want to learn something, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is shameful for women to speak in church."- 1 Corinthians 14:34-35
>>532615828>The wavefunction simply is, how can anything be more perfect than that? The embodiment of all that's possible.That's what God is, pretty much by definition. God and existence are synonyms.>Anything less than that would be less perfect, thus it can not be the first cause.Whatever's the most perfect is God. You aren't actually arguing against anything I've said, you're just trying to erase the words "first cause" and replace them with "wavefunction". My argument necessarily leads to a root cause for existence, and whatever that root cause is is first, most perfect, prior to time and absolute. That thing is God, whatever you call it, because everything depends upon it and it depends upon nothing.
>>532616102>I believebut you don’t know
>>532615748>Nah, history and DNA/archaeological evidenceShow me a few ginger niggers or browns. Even the jews think Esau, twin of Jacob, was a red-headed country boy.
>>532616087you can't blatantly contradict the bible and call yourself a Christianwell, you can, i'm just not going to take you seriouslyyou, on the other hand, promote this heresy, even though you claim to oppose it
>>532616262Neither do you. If you did then there would be no faith
>>532616214As usual the TPUSA shitskin Christian shill is goes into "SHUT IT DOWN" mode and spams the thread so no one else can discuss anything, showing his true colors revealing that Christians are lefty communists who will gladly censor and shut down anyone who opposes the jew god.
>>532616288>Esauthe Hebrew text primarily describes him as ruddy/red in complexion and exceptionally hairy
>>532616298Ben Shapiro promotes Christianity because Israel only exists from Christian support. Christians and jews are allies and both openly brag about it
>>532616004This is the shit I hate in this discourse. We're at the point where posters on both sides just pull absolutely inane baseless shit out of their asses and post it with total confidence.Christianity literally copied the same Paterfamilias structure as the Romans. The father has always been the 'priest of the house', which is why St. Paul explains that he relates to his wife like Jesus does to the church. IE - Men lead, women and children obey.By this logic you're saying the Romans were feminist because Jupiter existing somehow cucked every roman husband because the husband himself isn't god.There's a lot of arguments to make against Christianity but the overall limp-wristedness of the modern husband / father isn't it. It's a complete novelty of the past 200 years that flies in the face of millions of years of human and proto-human development.
>>532616316believe what you will
>>532616405>christianity is left wingsee >>532605474
>>532616525Thanks :^)
>>532616464the problem christianity has is it has too much political power. that's why we get open jew and nigger worship.christians need to be put into reeducation camps and their assets nationalized, then we'll get the real christian that are spiritually whipped slaves, like rabbi yeshua
>>532616470Holy crap! You're retarded. The Greeks and Romans when they were pagans literally owned women as legal property, and the myths aren't structured like Christianity at all. They didn't hold holy books over each each other's heads the way Christians do. Like I said, you literally worship a Jewish woman who cheated on her husband and said God inseminated her and her cock. Husband raised another man's son and everybody cheered like she's stunning and brave and literally worship her. That is like feminism taken to its final conclusion. And as Christianity took over Rome, women started to undermine society and one of the major reasons why Rome eventually collapsed was because young men checked out of society because women became and sufferable feminists.
>>532616019The basis of quantum mechanics is math fitted to excited hydrogen atoms and then extrapolated to a point where it has no right to work any more, but still magically does. Then extrapolated some more for cosmology wank just cause.Nothing in the Dirac equation has anything to do with Kaballah.
>>532616542>>christianity is left wingSew >>532613803>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underground_Railroad>>The Underground Railroad was an organized network of secret routes and safe houses for fugitive slaves to escape>>Allies>>Religious Society of Friends>>Congregational church>>Wesleyan Church>>Reformed Presbyterian Church of North America>>The stations were often located in basements, barns, churches
>>532616078I don't care about paganistic bullshit either.The gods exist (all of them) because people worship them. Gods are personified representations of platonic ideals, what i'm advocating for is to follow the ideal itself, not gods and especially don't worship them or transfer responsibility over to them.
>>532616838>fugitive slaves to escapefrom whomst
>>532616914Agreed
>>532616914gay
>>532616611>the problem christianity has is it has too much political power.>christianityFunny way to spell zionist. >>532616611>christians need to be put into reeducation camps and their assets nationalized,You mean jews? I'm on board with that, no reason to sell it to me.
>>532616737Behold the leaf, who rather than having a discussion ignores (or misunderstands) the point and calls me a Christian for no reason.We need a religion board to keep all you faggots quarantined. That or camps.
>>532616959>Why yes Christian churches are used to human traffick brown people into White countries >Here's why that's a GOOD thing, goy!
>>532617025christians are a jewish sectthat's why they behave like jews
>>532617029>(or misunderstands) the pointI replied directly to your point, but I never expect honesty from someone who worships a jew.
>>532615114>thinking is bad and makes you [my ideological scapegoat]>you will find the 'true' faith in just following your feelings like an animalYou've spammed this entire thread defending your faith but then expose the fact that it literally requires the absence of thinking to flourish. Admitted by one of it's own preachers. That aside, do you REALLY believe in Christianity? It's also incredibly obvious you are deeply insecure about it, considering the lengths you have taken and the amount of images and links you've saved for this worthless anonymous bickering. There are many of these weird posters like you on /pol/ with an peculiar amount of 'ammunition' for these threads. Like 60% of the posts in this thread are yours. Are you actually trying to convince people? Or just trying to convince yourself?
>>532617015>>532616997getting mixed signals herekek
>>532617025listen to what they say: they believe they are spiritually jewish.
>>532616914first of all, nice cross on your flagsecond of all, i guess you and niggers worship the game godsthird of all, let's compare by your logic >wealthiest nationschristian>militarily strongest nations christian>most fertile womenchristian >>532603015>best scientistschristian>>532602416>>532604496>>532604582
Most Christians are brown and they all worship a jew.
>>532617158saving souls from eternal damnationone shitpost at a time
>>532617155My point was about Paterfamilias you fag. You ignored it entirely to continue rambling about mary and holy books.
>>532617181I respect platonism insofar as it's not of jewish origin, but some of the worst aspects of the jewish religions now are because of the influence of platonism: world denying, all or nothing, abstractions above reality. aristotle was better, or even heroclitus.
>>532602017https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGgDKEVZXw8
>>532617438Most Christians are brown and they all worship a jew.
>>532617438>spreading my faith is a 'shitpost'literally can't stop owning yourself
>>532617223Most Christians are brown and they all worship a jew.
>>532617181Why?
>>532617504see >>532612220
>>532617223>first of all, nice cross on your flagit's actually a big plus>niggers worship the game godsniggers follow their basic instincts, not ideals. Their brain capacity is too small for that.And the wealthiest, most powerful nations are this way not because of christianity, but because of the white ethnicity found accross europe.
>>532617627Most Christians are brown and they all worship a jew.
>>532617642https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plus_and_minus_signs#Alternative_plus_sign
>>532617695Nooooo that's not true, well it is but it's not a big deal because neither gentile nor jew! actually: you're a jew! and brown! that's right!
>>532617642>not because of christianityyou claim that, but it wasn't the pagans / atheist whites that conquered the world but the christian ones
>>532617642>niggers follow their basic instincts, not idealsjust like christians, admitted by themselves >>532615114our deranged bulgarian spammer isn't giving a good image for christianity either
